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So, /sci/, since the Age of Oil is drawing to a close, what's the next major energy source? Fission? Fusion? Solar? Wind?

>> No.1183246

Urine.

>> No.1183250

Societies around the world will collapse and the remaining humans will mostly farm by hand.

>> No.1183245

>>1183242
natural gas

>> No.1183255

>>1183245
...gas is running out *faster* than oil...

>> No.1183265
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>>1183245
>>1183255
What he said.

>> No.1183269

Hydrogen

>> No.1183275

Oh, look, OP believes that the people who have a monopoly on Oil wouldn't fabricate an artificial shortage just to increase their profit yields.

>> No.1183282

>>1183275
Yeah, that's working well for Indonesia.

>> No.1183287

>>1183269
Where do we have hydrogen mines that require less energy to extract than they produce in fuel cells?

>> No.1183302
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1183302

>>1183242
SPOILER: I FOUND THE ANSWER ON YOUR WEBSITE

>> No.1183305

>>1183287
>Where do we have hydrogen mines that require less energy to extract than they produce in fuel cells?
This. The best we can possibly do with hydrogen is fission nuclear power plant electrolysis. Steam methane reforming just adds more CO2 to the atmosphere.

>> No.1183311

>>1183287
Well we could use for combustions engines...
I mean we do use to power rockets, we might as well use it to power cars

>> No.1183313

>>1183282
>implying that the african, arab and south american members wouldn't screw over the asian subset of their very own coalition.

>> No.1183314

>>1183287
In the imaginary universe where the laws of thermodynamics don't apply. You know, the one that most people think they live in.

>> No.1183317

Fission.
and likely biodiesel for transport.

>> No.1183320

>>1183311
And where do you get the power to make the hydrogen?

>> No.1183343

>>1183320
hydroelectrical power plants, fission, solar power, geothermal power
You know, the sky is the limit

>> No.1183346

We mine the moon for that helium 3 stuff

>> No.1183353

>>1183343
Still requires more energy in than you get out.

>> No.1183352
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>>1183317
...and once we run out of nuclear weapons to decommission, where are we going to get the fuel?

>> No.1183349

Anyone watch the aftermath show on the world without any more oil?

>> No.1183351

>>1183343
We'll run out of uranium before the century is out, solar cells take more energy to produce than they make in their lifetime, and we don't know how to get enough power from hydro and geothermal to satisfy demand.

>> No.1183355

A fucking billion wind farms

>> No.1183357

>>1183349

What was it called?

I'm downloading that.

>> No.1183360

>>1183352
Kazakhstan. Seriously, in 5 years, they are going to be the leading exporter of freshly mined uranium. Canada, Russia, AUS, and the US are the other big holders. Don't forget MOX fuel either.

>> No.1183364

Coal.

>> No.1183365

>>1183357
Aftermath: sometihng about oil running out.

Just google it.

There are a few aftermath shows such as one about if the moon went too far away or if the sun suddenly started to age now like it would eventually with the whole red giant thing.

>> No.1183366

>>1183343
Like this guy says:
>>1183351
We're basically exploited all of the world's usable hydro power... and those dams are old enough that they're silting up and will need to be rebuilt. Solar and wind are expensive and inconsistent. Locations where geothermal is inexpensive are very rare.

>> No.1183372

>>1183353
well who cares
As long as I don't have to have a freaking nuclear power plant inside my car I say is worth it
>>1183351
No way we have tons of uranium and everytime we only use a very small ammount
Also with the discovery of plutonium we can turn the otherwise worthless uranium-238 into fission material

>> No.1183373

>>1183357
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/aftermath/4462/Overview

ok i found it

And the other episodes are

Earth stops spinning
Overpopulation
swallowed by sun

>> No.1183383

Solar windfusion.

>> No.1183385

>>1183373

Thank you, kind anon.

>> No.1183382
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>>1183360
Doesn't look like the world agrees.

>> No.1183387

By 2050 we should have fusion power
If we don't science will have failed epically

>> No.1183392
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1183392

I can't believe you fuckers didn't learn that oil is a renewable resource in earth science. (a cuorse)

>> No.1183393

>>1183382
That's power production. Not mining. Learn to read your own labels.

>> No.1183401

>>1183393
>implying the two don't correlate

>> No.1183406

>>1183393
Yes. The world power production from nuclear power has flattened out even as uranium prices went through the floor. Nobody is building new plants and prices are still low. Who is Kazakhstan going to sell all this fuel to?

>> No.1183483

I am actually serious about this. People will breed giant hamsters to run on wheels all day.

Selective hamster breeding all the way.

>> No.1183499

>>1183392
lol'd

>> No.1183591

For power? Nuclear, solar, wind, hydro/wave.
For transportation? Cellulosic ethanol, methanol from waste biomass gasification, biogas from sludge, biodiesel from algae, hydrogen or the previous via artificial photosynthesis, electric (battery) or electric (fuel cell using one of the aforementioned fuels).

There's a ton of research going into all the above. Not every tech will be a winner, but there's probably going to be more than one thing replacing oil, that's for sure. It may end up depending on local economic conditions and resources as well.

If there's anything sillier than the people insisting oil cannot be replaced, it's the people who have a favorite alternative and dis all others.

This is always the case when technology comes to an impasse. We get creative and come up with a shitload of solutions, and eventually the winners get weeded out. But it's hard to predict.
In 1993, what will the future of computer storage be? Bigger hard discs? Will floppy discs continue to increase in storage (they'd doubled from 360k to 720 to 1.44 and then 2.88)? What about these new R/W optical drives? Or write-only?

Turns out it was Flash memory that won out in the end. Few would have predicted it back then though.

>> No.1183602

>>1183591
>>1183591
necessity is the mother of invention

>> No.1183630

3 possible outcomes:
1) we develop deuterium-deuterium fusion before our current fuels run out
2) we genetically engineer plants to excrete something we can use as a fuel and cover vast tracts of land with artificial plants
3) global collapse, new dark age