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1181232 No.1181232 [Reply] [Original]

You all fail.

>> No.1181238

The Ad Baculum may be a logical fallacy, but it still applies.
Therefore, while in a better world you may have a point, in this one - you're a huge faggot.

>> No.1181242

>>1181232
I "refute" a set of bad counterarguments
Therefore, my position must be the correct one
FAIL

>> No.1181249

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxPUvQZ3rcQ

>> No.1181245
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1181245

>can't see the cartoons

>> No.1181255

Look. I'm a Libertarian, and I hate people that use those arguments just as much as anyone, but this is not science and I don't want to get into this.

Sage for non-science and for making Libertarians look like assholes.

>> No.1181259

>>1181255
>Implying they don't make themselves look assholes

>> No.1181263

>>1181259
I don't think that I look like an asshole right now...

Hey, at least Libertarians want to keep to themselves instead of forcing their morals onto others.

>> No.1181280

Liberiterians fail, because they basically want to allow corporations to run wild without any checks and balances and contribute to class inequality by not providing the means for people to better themselves
The US was libertarian once, but we've moved on since then to better things

>> No.1181282
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1181282

Do any of you guys know how to make at-home test strips?

I'd be using it for my fish tank, so nitrate, and nitrite test strips.
I'm looking for something like... well, pH measured using litmus paper. MUCH cheaper than buy the set at the store.
Any ideas?

>> No.1181292

cant see cartoons faggot therefore your argument is invalid

>> No.1181295
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>>1181255
>Sage for non-science and for making Libertarians look like assholes.
Seconded.

You all do that well enough on your own.

>> No.1181307

Libertarianism is one of those great ideas that would work really well if we could erase all existing statuses and distributions of wealth, and give everybody in the world a truly equal chance to do well

>> No.1181316

>>1181307
but if u could erase and go back and do all that shit almost anything would work. everything looks good on paper, thats the point.

>> No.1181313
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>>1181263
>Libertarians want to keep to themselves instead of forcing their morals onto others.

You're talking about the same guys who wish to dismantle the government and change the political-economical layout of an entire country, let alone the world?

>> No.1181312

>>1181307
that would be socialism

>> No.1181310

>>1181280
you mean everything is fine and dandy in us now? and sorry, I'm no expert on us history, when was it strictly libertarian?

last time I checked the point was to regulate the corporations and their actions, not allowing them to rampage freely

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>>1181232
you fail douche ive never used a single argument on there.

>> No.1181317

>>1181310
>when was it libertarian
During and before the industrial revolution

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>>1181307

>> No.1181323

>>1181310
>you mean everything is fine and dandy in us now?
Last time I checked the resession was the bank's fault

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>>1181323
>>Last time I checked the resession was the bank's fault
id check again.

>> No.1181346

>>1181332
oh boy here we go again...

>> No.1181363

>>1181310
I don't think you know what libertarianism is

>> No.1181380

Libertarianism: the idea that if we eliminate all existing government interferences into our lives, worse corporate and individual interferences won't occur

>> No.1181384

Libertarianism is commendable for their ethical standpoint, but it's impractical and ideologically utopian.

>> No.1181391

Libertarianism: if you think the government is bad, just wait till you see how hard unregulated corporations fuck you

>> No.1181395
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>> No.1181399

all these alternative political ideologies are for losers that want to feel special

>> No.1181403
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>> No.1181410

>>1181399
the middle ground is for knuckle draggers who are too stupid or too apathetic to form an opinion

>> No.1181419
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1181419

contributing to comics because fuck libertardians

>> No.1181417

>>1181332

Are you shitting me? If the banks wouldn't lend shit out to whoever they wanted to, we wouldn't be in this mess.

>> No.1181420

>>1181410
I do have an opinion
I think socialism is the way to go

>> No.1181429

>>1181410
>the middle ground is for realists
FTFY

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>>1181417

> Saying someone's opinion is stupid
> Bark at them for not having an opinion

>> No.1181502

Libertarianism assumes:

1. Everyone is equally informed.
2. Everyone is equally intelligent
3. Nobody will *ever* take advantage of 1 or 2 being false
4. Libertarianism is actually "law of the jungle," but libertarians dance around this.
5. All elements of a chain of argument must be true for the conclusion (that Libertarianism works) to be true.
6. Since the arguments for Libertariansim fail on their premises, so do the conclusions.

****** Special End of Message Announcement ******

OP is a faggot.

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>> No.1181645

>>1181419
>implying Somalia is libertarian and not just run by criminal organizations

>> No.1181648

>>1181502
Sure, some people will take advantage of 1 and 2, but there will also be many people (the smart ones) that *work together.* Libertarianism is NOT "hurr let's all be enemies." It simply allows you to reap what you sow, if you wish to, even if it is by yourself.

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>>1181232

>> No.1181653

You must be shitting me.

>> No.1181654

>>1181645
>implying a country run by criminal (private) organizations isn't consistent with libertarianism

>> No.1181657

>>1181654
>implying that at all

L2Constitution

>> No.1181702
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1181702

>>1181403
Fix'ed

>> No.1181704

>>1181502
See #2

>> No.1181714

>>1181232

Anti-Libertarian Arguments:

Where does the government get the strength to enforce what you actually agree the government is allowed to enforced?

>> No.1181718

>>1181648

So, Libertarianism is the law of the jungle? Well, the law of the jungle is also might makes right. Why do Libertarians hate government again?

>> No.1181743

>>1181238 The Ad Baculum may be a logical fallacy, but it still applies.

Ad Baculum isn't always a logical fallacy. Sometimes it's a perfectly justified argument:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_baculum#The_Non-fallacious_Ad_Baculum

Also, pointing out that there's never been a successful libertarian country is not an appeal to status quo, it's an inductive argument.

Double also; making a list of ten fallacies then claiming that anti-libertarians make them is a textbook strawman argument. So fuck you three times over, OP.

>> No.1181806

>>1181718
Because they want their might to be right, not the gov's might.

>> No.1181810

You are all wrong because...

God said it.
I believes it.
That settles it.

>> No.1181827

Libertarians oppress the many to "liberate" the chosen few. Fuck off.

>> No.1181831

Tbh more than an ideology I'd prefer a bureaucrat that actually cares about the people. Until the aforementioned remains a distant wish, political systems are virtually irrelevant.

>> No.1182059

You must be shitting me.

>> No.1182075

>>1181651

HOHENHEIMUUUU???

>> No.1182077

not science. thread hidden

>> No.1182094

>>1181282
red cabbage juice

>> No.1182134

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>> No.1182181

>>1181419
implying somalia were better off with a government.