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1180647 No.1180647 [Reply] [Original]

Is it a planet?

>> No.1180662

It's still a planet to me, dammit.

>> No.1180657

Yes, it just cannot be automatically denounced as a planet after being one for so long.

>> No.1180666

I don't care if a group of trolls decide that it's not a planet no more.

The only thing that matters is that it's still a planet to a good majority of people.

>> No.1180665

i've heard they took away plutos planet rights.

>> No.1180669

>>1180657

It has to do with what the word "planet" means though. I don't claim to know if Pluto meets these criteria anymore, but if it doesn't, then why call it a planet?

>> No.1180674

>>1180666
This exactly, it's like God.

You could say he doesn't exist all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that he's real to someone.

You just gotta respect other people's right to believe whatever the fuck they want to believe.

>> No.1180675

No. A planet, by new (good) definition, is able to clear the space within its orbit and orbits within the ecliptic plane. Pluto does neither, it has an elongated eliptical orbit and it gains a tail when it gets too close to the Sun. It's just one of the most nearby Kuiper Belt objects.

Also this isn't the first time we've "gotten rid of a planet". There were at least 4 other named planets during... 1700s? 1800s? not sure which. Regardless, they were located just beyond Mars... guess what they really were? Asteroids. Whoopdifuck.

No. Pluto is not a planet.

>> No.1180679

pluto never changed.

the definition of planet changed and it was named accordingly. I don't get what the fuss is.

if feces were renamed holy rose I don't see why it would be good to smell.

pluto is still pluto. just not in the planet category.

>> No.1180682

>>1180675
And who had the authority to decide this, stfu b4 u look like and idiot.

>> No.1180687

What are the odds that there are lifeforms on that planet?

>> No.1180690

>>1180682
Who has the authority? People who actually know what the fuck they are talking about.

What, you think "joe six pack" has just as much authority? I suppose we should just say that joe should be the authority on quantum mechanics as well. Jesus fucking christ.

gtfo before you look like an idiot.

>> No.1180701

>>1180682
it's just a name in some category. we human use language and define those meaning, we rearrange it where it fits.

get over it.

>> No.1180700

>>1180698
confirmed for troll.

>> No.1180698

>>1180694
You just can't make shit up on the spot, idiot.

>> No.1180695

>>1180687
Highly unlikely. Although it's pinkish ting might be indicative of organic compounds.

>> No.1180694

>>1180647
Planet was redefined within 2006 to include 3 of the following criteria:

Are you round?
Are you the primary body in your orbit around the star?
Have you cleared your orbit of sizable debris?

Pluto failed the last one and was reclassified as a dwarf planet. It also spawned a new classification of icy bodies in the Kuiper Belt called Plutoids.

If Pluto were made into a planet, so would the asteroid Series and a myriad of other asteroid belt objects and Kuiper Belt objects.

>> No.1180705

>>1180695
Can you prove there isn't life on Pluto?
That's what I thought, stfu plz.

>> No.1180709

>>1180701
How would you feel if the word "nigger" was changed to mean stupid black person like you, n*****.

>> No.1180714

>>1180694
I mean asteroid Ceres. Wow, my brain went off there.

>> No.1180717

>>1180705
I never claimed to "prove" it. I said "highly unlikely". Dense fucker. Probably troll. Fairly effective.

>> No.1180718

>>1180698
I didn't.
http://fora.tv/2009/02/04/Neil_deGrasse_Tyson_The_Pluto_Files

>> No.1180719

>>1180709
you could rename "feces" to "food" doesn't mean you eat shit. nothing was changed except it's category. pluto remain pluto.

>> No.1180724

I love how scientist think they expect people to accept their stupid judgment calls. It's still a major planet to some people and you shouldn't be asshole to tell them otherwise. I pray they burn in Hell.

>> No.1180727

>>1180719
Yes it does, moron, go eat some food.

N*****.

>> No.1180730

Wow. People who whine about pluto are pants on head retarded. It's not like we destroyed it or something. FFS we just reclassified it. It is of no less significance (although it never had much to begin with) because it's now a "dwarf planet". Bunch of crying children.

>> No.1180746

>>1180724
BAAAWWWW you scientists are mean! Why can't you just say nice things all the time and let everyone live in fat, happy ignorance?! Why fragile ego/world view has been shattered!

>> No.1180748

>>1180727
your insult with baseless rebuttal doesn't change a fact, especially on 4chan.

do something and reclaim pluto's classification as planet if you mean it.

btw there are no censor here on 4chan, nigger

>> No.1180768

>>1180746
Ever heard of the expression, "Ignorance is bliss?"

F***ing n*****s.

>> No.1180778

>>1180768
This, why do you think Atheists are always unhappy with their lives and Christians are happy?

>> No.1180782

>>1180746
Go f*** yourself n*****.

>> No.1180788

>>1180746
Living in ignorance is better than knowing it all, you f***ing c***sucking n***** b*tch.

>> No.1180796

>>1180768
>>1180778
Then live in willful ignorance you idiots. But don't expect to get any sympathy from people who actually wish to advance human understanding. Your whining means nothing.

>> No.1180882

no. get over it

>> No.1180934

It's not a planet. It never was supposed a planet.

>> No.1180946

>>1180796
Humanity will only advance once people understand and start tolerating one another. This is what atheists don't get. If people love and respect one another and not badmouth their beliefs. We could advance the human population further.

>> No.1180956

>>1180946
This exactly, this is why I never listen to atheists when they try to preach their beliefs on me. They are no better than the people they hate. I pray God tortures them for eternity.

>> No.1180959

>>1180647
Yes it is.

>> No.1181159

If scientists say so, it must be true.

>> No.1181187

>>1181159
God is the only deciding authority.

>> No.1181189

>>1180946
>>1180956
>doesn't live in the USA or near creationists

>> No.1181198

>>1181189
It was my understanding that the USA had a first amendment that allowed those creationist to believe whatever the fuck they want to believe.

>> No.1181199

>>1181187
God doesn't exist.

>> No.1181221

>>1181199
Okay, umm, source?

>> No.1181222

>>1181198
Believe? Yes.

That's not enough for them, though. They try (and do) force their religious beliefs into the US government. That's the reason that many American atheists are much more...aggressive compared to, say, European non-theists.

>> No.1181224

>>1181222
You sound like an asshole.

>> No.1181236

>>1181221
Santa doesn't exist.

Your reply:
>Okay, umm, source?

When he say that "god doesn't exist," he's speaking it as a "practical" truth. For example, it's a "practical" truth that matter exists, that other people and other minds exist, that we don't live in the Matrix, that there isn't a unicorn behind me, that Santa doesn't exist, and that there isn't a god or higher power that interacts with the world in a noticeable way. These are practical truths because there is no evidence to the contrary.

There is no absolute truths in this sense, other than, possibly, absolute truths in logic or math, by their very definition.

Until there is evidence to support the existence of something, it is a "practical" truth that it does not exist (in a practical sense).

>> No.1181239

>>1181224
You too, buddy.

>> No.1181243

Pluto's not a planet, and Brontosaurus isn't a dinosaur.

Science: 2
My Childhood: 0

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>> No.1181260

>>1181243
You sir are and idiot. :)

>> No.1181267

>>1181260
lol Ok, if you say so.

>> No.1181275
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>> No.1181299

>>1181243
>Brontosaurus isn't a dinosaur.


Oh yes he is!

http://blurst.com/jetpack-brontosaurus/

http://vimeo.com/1107324

>> No.1181315

>>1181275
>>1181262
Moar, I lol'd.

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>>1181355
>>1181355
moar!

>> No.1181373

>>1181347
I don't get it.

>> No.1181388

>>1181275
Isn't Eris bigger than Pluto?

>> No.1181397

>>1181388

Yes.

>> No.1181398

>>1181275
Does this end in planetary buttsecks?

>> No.1181400
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>>1180647
how old is pluto?

>> No.1181401

I thought Eris was known as Xena?

>> No.1181413

>>1181355
>MY CORE IS COMMING OUT AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

Oh god I actually lol'd

>> No.1181416

>>1181400
Still younger than that guy.

>> No.1181414

>>1181398
How the fuck do planets have sex?

>> No.1181424

>>1181414
They touch balls.

>> No.1181425

>>1181424
Eww, that's gay.

>> No.1181428

I'm tired of this fucking bullshit. There used to be a bunch of planets, and everyone knew what they were. There was no question about it. But then these scientists had to go and make up a new, different definition of a planet. You can't just do that. The planets are an important part of our culture, and you can't just go and change that just because you don't want one particular object to be a planet.

Yes, I know it is much smaller than the other planets. Yes, I know it orbits very differently than the other planets.But that doesn't mean you can just say that the Moon isn't a planet anymore.

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>> No.1181467

>>1181442
I didn't get this one.

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>> No.1181472

>>1181468
I love how youranus rejoices.

>> No.1181475

>>1181472
>youranus
I got realized that Uranus sounds like Your Anus and is spelled this way incorrectly as Ur Anus.

>> No.1181488

>>1181475
whatthefuckamireading.jpg

>> No.1181500

>>1181488
somebodygotthejoke.jpg.png.exe.fil

>> No.1181508

>>1181428
Exactly. Bullshit scientists looking up at the sky and finding shit, coming up with different definitions to better classify stuff. We should leave them as they are, after all, we named the week after them. Oh, and Greek names, they sound so much cooler, Selene, Hermes, Aphrodite, Helios, Ares, Zeus and Kronos.

>> No.1181512

Is it possible to colonize Pluto?

>> No.1181513

>>1181512
The Inuits did this a long time ago.

They just kept quiet.

>> No.1181522

>>1181508
There is no Plutoday, though.

>> No.1181525

>>1181488
Images go under the file option, dumbass.

>> No.1181547

>>1180647
Pluto will always be a planet in my hear <3

>> No.1181550

It's a technicality. That piece of rock couldn't care less what you call it.

>> No.1181571

>>1180647
Of course. So are Ceres, Haumea, Makemake and Eris.

Seriously though, who the fuck names a planet Makemake? I know why they named it that, but its so horribly out of place. At least Haumea sounds like its trying to fit in.

>> No.1181578

>>1181522
There's no Uranus-day or Neptune-day, or Earth-day for that matter.
But there is a Sun-day,
a Moon-day,
Tiw's (Norse warrior god) day,
Woden's (Oden) Day (cant really connect it to mercury, but the Romans did call the day dies Mercuri)
Thor's (both Thor and Zeus were the gods of thunder) Day,
Frige (Norse name for Venus) Day, and
Saturn Day

>> No.1181604

>>1181578
In my language it's:

(God's day)
Moon day
Mars day
Mercury day
Jupiter day
Venus day
(Rest day)

>> No.1181630

>>1181571
Why did they name it Makemake? That sounds Hawaiian, I'm assuming it was discovered by Keck or similar?

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>> No.1181658

>>1181275
This actually explains the entire situation extremely succiently.

>> No.1181659

everyone get the fuck over it. Making clear and useful definitions of terms like 'planet' is part of science

>> No.1181661

>>1181630
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makemake_(dwarf_planet)#Name
So at least the theme's constant.

>> No.1181684

ITT: People upset because they think compact cars aren't considered automobiles because they're not called SUV's.

>> No.1181715

You planetists will get yours someday.

>> No.1181716

Moar comics!

>> No.1181735

>>1181716
This!

>> No.1181780

Pluto will always be a planet in my heart~

>> No.1181859

I demand moar comics!

>> No.1181903

I want it to still be a planet.

However, when I am old, I will be legitimately be entitled to wear a "When I was your age Pluto was still a planet" t-shirt.

>> No.1181929

Team USA!