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First off, inb4 tech doubters, this goes back Maxwell and Tesla themselves.

>Art of transmitting electrical energy through the natural mediums.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US787412A/en

>Apparatus for transmission of electrical energy.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US649621A/en

The basis of electromagnetism, Maxwell's Equations, we're known by Maxwell himself to not tell the whole physical story. But the purest of Occams razor were determined that a theory of electromagnetism should only contain electric and magnetic fields, not this mysterious land of the scalar wave.
Glowbies were obviously more than happy to let this miscommunication continue. Thus for the past 150 years, Electromagnetism in College has been generally taught in ignorance of 90% of what the scientific observations point to. What i describe as the higher dimensional implications of the theories. If this isn't enough, I'd like to reiterate that this ignorance is OUR problem, the military industrial complex is happy to provide this education in their version of grade school.

NASA's version of k12 teaches kids the broader story of electro-magnetism (well, the neuroatypicals)
https://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/Numbers/Math/Mathematical_Thinking/maxwells_equations.htm

Its crazy, I've had many friends in engineering, None can tell me maxwells errors, or the existence of the magnetic vector or electric scalar potentials. If this math looks incomprehensible, it is sufficient to consider that this is the same math provided in the CIA vault.
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000500240001-6.pdf


If this math is comfy or your curious check out
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/242200443_Scalar_Waves_Theory_and_Experiments_1/link/59ee00dd0f7e9b3695758d57/download

It briefly explores what I say are the higher dimensional consequences of this line of reasoning, and provides a lot of technical consequences of this technology.

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So, no that I have seen the math and the experimental evidence of the scalar wave. Perhaps we are now ready to explore the implications of spacetime. For this scalar wave is well described as a function of the spaces permittivity and permeability, as its stretches and compresses. Yes, stretch and compression of the electric field. And Nikola Tesla measured propagation speeds in excess of c

I write this here today in inspiration of this youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ7jwevZbb4 in hopes that other explorers of math and physics find inspiration in their quest to approach long standing problems in physics
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>> No.11765244

>>11765164
>>11765184
>For this scalar wave is well described as a function of the spaces permittivity and permeability

So it's "filled space". "Space" cannot exist.

>But the purest of Occams razor were determined that a theory of electromagnetism should only contain electric and magnetic fields
They cannot exist without the other, ultimately though the magnetic field is just the loss of the electric field. Is something that is the loss of something else something in itself? It is privation, the same could be said of space.

>Yes, stretch and compression of the electric field
Dielectric Field, according to Maxwell and Steinmetz anyway

>And Nikola Tesla measured propagation speeds in excess of c
When you alter the something using compressions/rarefactions, how is speed a consideration? It's dependent on the medium by which these "waves" (Protip: Scalar "waves" aren't actually a wave at all) "travel".

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>>11765244
checked
from patent 787412, page 3 line 52-63
Third. The most essential requirement is, however, that irrespective of frequency the
wave or wave-train should continue for a cer
tain interval of time, which I have estimated
to be not less than one-twelfth or probably 0.08484 of a second and which is taken in
passing to and returning from the region dia
metrically opposite the pole over the earth's
surface with a mean velocity of about four
hundred and seventy-one thousand two hun
dred and forty kilometers per second. The presence of the stationary waves.

Tesla in his work defines the mean velocity. I'd expect such a mean velocity of pressure wave through a fluid would be its speed during no compression or the opposite. Here teslsa's waves propagate faster than the speed of light by ~1.5x

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>>11765260
>The most essential requirement is, however, that irrespective of frequency the
wave or wave-train should continue for a cer
tain interval of time

>The presence of the stationary waves.

>I'd expect such a mean velocity of pressure wave through a fluid would be its speed during no compression or the opposite. Here teslsa's waves propagate faster than the speed of light by ~1.5x

Waves of what?

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>>11765244
>They cannot exist without the other, ultimately though the magnetic field is just the loss of the electric field.
Yes, i learned this as well. But, if you have an ear, ponder this with me.

We model the pontying vector as the total energy flow in the em system

But, the case from the CIA indicates an energy flow despite the poynting theoem predicting nothing
[math]
E = 0; B = 0; \nabla \times A = 0;
[/math]

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>>11765278
i copy pasted right out the pdf, looks the formatting kept intact as well

Tesla pumped incredibly high oscillating potential through (like hundreds of millions of volts) the outerloop, we're talking questioning the relativistic nature spacetime because the charge density is so high. connecting E into the ground and E' a distance in the Air. The resulting ossicaltions created by the induction on the inner coil creates a scientific experiment for the nature of scalar waves

>> No.11765307

>>11765283
>But, the case from the CIA indicates an energy flow despite the poynting theoem predicting nothing

You'll figure out sooner or later that "electricity" is a cover story.

>> No.11765308

>>11765300
I visualize these waves as creating sound waves in light. Longditudional, rather than transverse propagation in the EM field. Like sound, but the medium is light

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>>11765300
>we're talking questioning the relativistic nature spacetime because the charge density is so high.
Dielectric is instantaneous. It's the same reason lighting arresters don't work and the stuff in your house will get fucked anyway. Smaller the space, the higher capacitance like how light is more dangerous and powerful the smaller the wavelength. What is already present is induced, it has nothing to do with "space" "spacetime" or standards of measure.

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>>11765325
This is speaking alot of sense to me, alot of what i read seems quite tangentially related to the conductivity of the atmosphere and indeed the earth itself. Yes, the sun, the planets, could one postulate that their axial rotation of charge, has been tending to its well of inductance here on earth for ages past?! Than the earth is primed with a great measure of potential. I suppose my intuition is to than try to harmonize, or ripple some into an eddy for consumption

>> No.11765421

>>11765283
Tesla was based but too rational in terms of scientifically identifying the "collective unconscious" as a tap fountain of knowledge

>> No.11765481

>>11765421
interesting, a positive divergence in the consciousness field. I would struggle myself in first ascribing the dimensional of the field, never the less proving its smoothness.

But i wonder, what became of attempts to graph language itself as a vector field?

>> No.11765538

>>11765481
Is this the new /schizo/ general?

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>>11765538
That depends, One day i'll recreate Tesla's invention, and experiment with different crop circles as the geometry of the inner coil in pic of >>11765300
If I talk with Ayy's, as Tesla believed to have, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_hDVwygQ4s

I'll let you know and we will have our answer

>> No.11765637

>>11765579
So that's a yes

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>>11765260
at least you took the time to read the patent many tesla fans for some reason just ignore them..

notice that this action is related to "standing waves" they have the property to appear faster than light, to create that standing wave you need to give it some time for the "wavefront" to reflect back (not much time just a second is enough like he said in the patent), this wave is reflecting on the earth itself so thats why he explains that you need to use the VLF band (very low frequency from 0hz to about 30khz) bescause they have the property to travel almost without decay this is similar to the shorwave spectrum but MUCH better, this spectrum also has the property that it can penetrate ground and water thats why it is used in submarine communications, the BIG problem with the VLF spectrum is that it requieres very long antennas and coils to get maximum transfer... tesla talks about all this in the patents

heres a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k2TuJfNQ9s

pic related is from a submarine training book:
https://maritime.org/doc/oberon/operations/index.htm#pg9

"ALK": VLF aerial installed in recoverable buoy.
"ALM": Omni directional VLF aerial comprising a series of loops in the fin.
"ALN": Telescopic HF/UHF mast
"ALW": Buoyant, disposable VLF wire aerial
"AMK": UHF/IFF combined antenna associated with the ECM mast.
"AWJ": Emergency whip aerial for use on the surface only.

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>>11765637
I'm reminded that building the receiver to record the waves. would be a quicker endevour one could use to judge for themselves. I have yet to read these patents

>Method of intensifying and utilizing effects transmitted through natural media.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US685953A/en?oq=685953

>Apparatus for utilizing effects transmitted from a distance to a receiving device through natural media.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US685955A/en?oq=685955

Also this one
>Method of utilizing effects transmitted through natural media.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US685954A/en?oq=685954

It wasn't referenced in the patent, but it remains logical the one filed inbetween was his.

>> No.11765762

>>11765164
Oh boy why did I bother with this crap

1. The wave equation in meyls work is plain wrong, if he wants to consider an electric field that can be expressed as a gradient of a scalar potential he is in the realm of electrostatics, and exactly that emerges from the real wave equation had he not mixed up some terms there.

2. "Oh noes nobody can explain near field effects" yes we can, but not with the dipole approximation that is only that, an approximation, though perfectly valid for far fields. If you want near fields, you have to consider the geometry of the antenna and solve the set of maxwells equations you mong.

t. PhD student in theoretical physics

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Your jargon heavy field is as much a mystery to the great minds of the universe as is the average laymen. If not in the language of vector algebra than perhaps the visualization of the geometry, the idea of pressure waves in the electromagnetic field, and perhaps the existence of the B^3 magnetic field.

>> No.11765807

>>>/x/
don't encourage schizo retards.

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>>11765762
>means is a transverse wave but a longitudinal wave!”
Scalar waves also are called “electromagnetic longitudinal waves,” “Maxwellian
waves,” or “Teslawellen” (i.e., Tesla waves). Variants of the theory claim that scalar
electromagnetics, also known as scalar energy, is background quantum mechanical
fluctuations and associated zero-point energies.
In modern-day electrodynamics (both classical and quantum), electromagnetic
waves (EMW) traveling in “free space” (e.g., photons in the “vacuum”) are generally
considered to be TW. But then again, this was not always the case. When the
preeminent mathematician James Clerk Maxwell first modeled and formalized his
unified theory of electromagnetism in the late nineteenth-century, neither the EM
SW/LW nor the EM TW had been experimentally proved, but he had postulated and
calculated the existence of both

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bfm%3A978-3-319-91023-9%2F1.pdf

Magnetic monopoles have destroyed gausses law, what makes you think the lorentz guage won't simply go down in history as a special condition of maxwells, and that, because magnetic monopoles exist, so will positive divergence in B

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>> No.11767092

>>11765813
There, the wave equation in your pic is wrong.
It should be (in the absence of currents and c=1)
rot rot E=-\partial^2_t E