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Artemis thread. Now that the SpaceX flight has finished I think we should discuss this program. Especially the SLS

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>> No.11751701

I like the part with Starship

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>>11751701
I mean yeah I have faith in starship but SLS is more powerful than the Saturn V and is promising. Plus a moonbase will be good while Elon has a Martian colony

>> No.11751747

>>11751743
>more powerful than the Saturn V
Only on launch, and only because of the solid rocket boosters. It's their only saving grace and not worth their other sins.
On paper it gets less mass to TLI and to LEO than Saturn V did in reality. Starship is even more powerful than SLS, and does it (on paper, both rockets (Super Heavy, not Starship) are still on paper) with high ISP liquid engines instead of relying on low ISP, dirty, dangerous solids

>> No.11751756

Just use a lot of FHeavies.

>> No.11751765

>>11751743
that pic looks photoshopped

>> No.11751767

>>11751765
it's an artist's interpretation, they got a lot of things wrong

>> No.11751786

How likely EUS will actually get off the ground?

>> No.11751788

>>11751786
it's not technically difficult, but it really depends on the political situation
I don't foresee that changing (it will happen), but I could very easily be completely wrong.

>> No.11751789

>>11751669
Wow, everyone plays Kerbal.

>> No.11751803

>>11751747
why don't they just scrap it then?

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>>11751803
I like the cut of your jib, anon
scrap the whole commercial rocket program! ONLY NATIONAL ROCKETS
ONLY NATIONAL PAYLOADS

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>> No.11751823

>>11751669
>Especially the SLS
Sorry, but we need 10 more years and 15 billions in funding.

>> No.11751829

very excited for the Dynetics lander!
hoping they can make those crasher tanks simple enough

>> No.11751830

>>11751823
God I hate NASA

>> No.11751834

>>11751830
the problem is not NASA, the problem is Congress and the Military Industrial Complex
JFK tried to warn us

>> No.11751841

>>11751834
>he Military Industrial Complex
AKA you have no clue what you are talking about

>> No.11751844

>>11751841
cost-plus contracts and the oldspace swamp are the same actors as the military industrial complex, anon
Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman

>> No.11751859

>>11751844
>the military industrial complex
AKA you have no clue what you are talking about

>> No.11751861

>>11751859
stfu boomer nigger oldspace shill
go suck off some more congressmen

>> No.11751870

>>11751844
And SRBs because one company that makes nuclear missile rockets

>> No.11751877

>>11751870
Thiokol made the SRBs and was bought out by ATK, which merged with Orbital to make Orbital ATK, which was then bought out by Northrop Grumman
already got it covered

>> No.11751884

>>11751861
Don't get mad faggot. Its not my fault everyone who uses the term MIC is a mouthbreathing retard.

>> No.11751885

>>11751823
>military funding 700+ billion dollars
>nasa funding 22 billion
>people still complain about nasa having too much money
>mfw

>> No.11751889

>>11751885
neither of those are even close to the amount we spend on welfare programs.

>> No.11751891

>>11751889
both the NASA and the Military are welfare programs

>> No.11751894

>>11751891
fair point

>> No.11751898

You have a lot to learn OP but it’s a very fun journey.

>> No.11751900

>>11751898
Personally, I liked the part where I started to hate the US government

>> No.11752592

>>11751834
>JFK tried to warn us
After Eisenhower tried to warn us.

>> No.11752603

>>11751669
Does anyone know if LOP-G is still gonna happen in Artemis?

>> No.11753169

>>11751900
Same

>> No.11753175

>>11752603
As of 4 months ago it was still planned

>> No.11753197

>>11751669
NASA talking about how they are leading the way for landing on Mars is such a larp. SpaceX is something like 15 years ahead of them.

>> No.11753217

>>11751891
>>11751894
They support staffs of talented engineers though. Welfare money just ends up at the likka sto'

>> No.11753218

>>11753217
>talented engineers
haha

>> No.11753268

>>11753217
Lets see your CV, big guy.

>> No.11753271

>>11753218
>>11753268
Meant to respond to this master of the autoerotic arts.

>> No.11753280

why'd they use the nofap logo?

>> No.11754026

>>11753280
why not

>> No.11754033

>>11751891
We meant ooga booga GIBS welfare, this welfare is actually put to good use by engineers

>> No.11754286

bump

>> No.11754410

>>11754033
lol

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>>11751669
Wait a fucking minute

>> No.11755018

>>11752603
Artemis-3 is being designed to function independantly from Gateway, but will obviously use it if available.

>> No.11755397

>>11755018
Gateway is a good idea

>> No.11755403

>>11755397
it's a really good political idea, imo
it's an awful spaceflight idea, much better to have something in one of the high inclination frozen LLO

>> No.11755476

>>11755403
Politics in this case are more important

>> No.11755503

>>11755403
We're not getting a space station out of LEO without politics.

>> No.11755509

>>11755476
>>11755503
I absolutely agree. Elon doesn't need politics to go to Mars, but Artemis does to go to the Moon.

>> No.11755560

>>11755509
No person is going to Mars until there's a permanent presence out of LEO.
The risks are just too great.

>> No.11755561

>>11755560
lol

>> No.11755605

>>11751669
More like Shartipiss
>>11755560
You sound like those lockdown for as long as it takes fags

>> No.11757051

>>11755503
Normally yes. However the Musk cult of personality may make it possible and without all the bureaucracy.

>> No.11758598

I wanna go to Space~!

>> No.11758930

>>11751803
Sunk costs.
It employs a lot of people.

>> No.11758935

>>11751803
muh jerbs

>> No.11758936

>>11758930
Aka government welfare. Its bullshit and a waste of taxpayer resources. If they want to keep their job shift them to new projects

>> No.11758995

>>11758936
The problem is you've got big fat government contracts pouring shitloads of money into your state and employing loads of people so any politician in office that tries to fuck with that is going to get no votes in the next election because muh jerbs.

>> No.11759137

>>11758995
Yep which is stupid

>> No.11759176

>>11755560
I would happily volunteer. 50% chance of survival or so would be enough for me.
And no return.

>> No.11760522

>>11759176
I think many would