Space Flight General

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Space Flight General Anonymous Thu May 28 18:38:19 2020 No.11727892 [Reply] [Original]

Space Flight General: propellers on rockets edition
The SN4 just had another static fire, DM2 has been delayed until Saturday, and SpaceX have their FAA license for suborbital flight testing.
SpaceX insurance rates for Starship testing have just increased to two hundred million dollars.
China has announced their space station plans for the next few years.
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>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 18:40:25 2020 No.11727897 File: 24 KB, 384x512, asubscalemod.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11727892 When are they supposed to start building the Adeline?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 18:41:27 2020 No.11727906 File: 363 KB, 1440x1440, 1590702039987.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Also anything promising from Europe?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 18:44:01 2020 No.11727913 Yeah i like this version better. Does anyone know more about todays static fire and the hop schedule? Also spacex is the only good commercial space program prove me wrong.(protip, you can't)

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 18:47:51 2020 No.11727926 >>11727897 When did airbus start doing space stuff? Also wtf is that at the bottom?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 18:49:54 2020 No.11727931 >>11727926 The bottom has propellers and flies itself back to base. The fuel tank of the first stage pops off and lands in the ocean

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 18:56:13 2020 No.11727954 >>11727897 Never. It's obsolete and stupid already.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 18:59:17 2020 No.11727965 >>11727931 What does that do to the rockets performance?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:00:20 2020 No.11727969 File: 280 KB, 1041x1301, 1590608017133.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11727954 why do you say that? Surely its good to have different concepts

Anonymous Thu May 28 19:02:18 2020 No.11727981
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Why didn't they salvage some parts of the constellation program? I still don't understand why they canceled it. SLS is terrible

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:12:09 2020 No.11728013 >>11727892 Bump because fuck anime

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:14:38 2020 No.11728023 >>11727985 >>11727992 water globes as fish farms? it's O'Neil cylinder levels of difficulty i imagine there has to be mechanism for cycling of nutrients to keep the water oxygenated and clean why not just make cylinders? sounds easier

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:15:28 2020 No.11728024 >>11727906 Pitiful that everyone is just copying SpaceX.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:17:23 2020 No.11728039 >>11728023 Why would you do orbs like that? Plus how would you expose the fish to light? It seems highly inefficient

Anonymous Thu May 28 19:17:24 2020 No.11728040

>>11727969
If one of those concepts is logistically and technologically noncompetitive, it won't see actual use. People should not be trying to scramble and catch up to existing technology, they should endeavor to design and develop beyond what's already there.

The Adeline and >>11727906 are either partial-capability-matching inferior concepts or lateral clones of an already mature and functioning rocket. They're dead ends, because by the time they would fly, F9 would be getting phased out in favor of SS/SH.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:18:57 2020 No.11728044 File: 683 KB, 1365x2048, EYgh5jaWsAEBant.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728024 yeah but what else are they going to do? The falcon9 is a very good rocket and rhe world isn't going to catch up to starship in time.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:19:01 2020 No.11728045 >>11727965 Probably not any worse than the payload reduction Falcon 9 needs to be reused. Supposedly it may be superior to the Falcon 9’s vertical landings but sadly it doesn’t look like the idea is going to be explored to the testing phase.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:20:03 2020 No.11728046 >>11728023 >i imagine there has to be mechanism for cycling of nutrients to keep the water oxygenated and clean That’s.....that’s called life. Nutrients are cycled and water is oxygenated and cleaned by the stuff living in my aquarium.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:20:12 2020 No.11728047 File: 18 KB, 432x230, 1590552496560.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728040 Well isn't the ESA trying to be independent? I cant imagine they are in a position to go above current tech yet.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:21:44 2020 No.11728054 >>11728045 Damn so what are they moving to? A falcon clone?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:22:51 2020 No.11728057 >>11727981 >I still don't understand why they canceled it. Massively expensive, massively behind schedule, kept running into technical issues.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:23:08 2020 No.11728058 >>11728054 Ariane 6 is a conventional expendable launcher

Anonymous Thu May 28 19:23:14 2020 No.11728059
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>>11728040
>They're dead ends, because by the time they would fly, F9 would be getting phased out in favor of SS/SH.
what is their best course of action then? Just rely on spacex?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:24:27 2020 No.11728065 >>11728059 Non-Americans should just stop launching things into orbit forever.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:24:32 2020 No.11728066 >>11728059 The point of the ESA and Arianespace was to give Europe independent access to space. As long as they have a rocket, they're accomplishing their goals. They might lose much commercial marketshare, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:24:44 2020 No.11728067 >>11728059 >what is their best course of action then? Just rely on spacex? be more ambitious than SpaceX and then execute on that ambition. If you're incapable of this then yes, beg the US government to approve the sale of Falcon 9s.

Anonymous Thu May 28 19:26:13 2020 No.11728072

>>11728059
ESA can't do that because they would lose their independent launch capability. Their best course of action would be to go full speed ahead towards reuseability where ever it may lead.

>Why not just copy Starship?
It's not a proven design just yet. It would be more rational and safe to peruse something with Starship capability independently.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:33:50 2020 No.11728086 File: 366 KB, 1920x1506, Artist_s_view_of_the_configuration_of_Ariane_6_using_four_boosters_A64_pillars.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728058 Never heard of it, is it good?

Anonymous Thu May 28 19:36:11 2020 No.11728094

>>11728067
>beg the US government to approve the sale of Falcon 9s
This does bring up a notion- given that we know the unit cost of a F9 is about $15 million these days, Spacex sell those for a very reasonable price and still make comfortable profits. They could spin off the F9 manufacturing line into a side stream of income even after Starship is the only thing they launch- focusing solely on manufacturing and software and letting the customer worry about all the other logistics related to launch.

Anonymous Thu May 28 19:37:34 2020 No.11728100
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>>11728044
>what else are they going to do?
Innovate. Or work on any of a range of concepts from the last 75 years. If I was Musk's lawyer, I'd be suing the fuck out of Blue Origin, Airbus and anyone else trying to copy the Falcon landing system.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:38:05 2020 No.11728104 >Causing thread wars because you are so but blasted over anime top kek

Anonymous Thu May 28 19:38:32 2020 No.11728106

Let’s say I get a weather balloon and haul up a rocket payload then launch it from the weather when around the time the weather balloon would of popped . It might technically be hard because weather balloons aren’t the most steady things and it’s be hard to get it to stay still. Plus the time weather balloons pop is variable but still possible. You could get it up pretty high. You’d probably also have to do something to the rocket so it’s work effectively despite being in a weak atmosphere. I wonder how high you could get it. Has anyone done this?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:38:45 2020 No.11728109 >>11728104 please use the real thread

Anonymous Thu May 28 19:40:39 2020 No.11728112

>>11728047
ESA is and always will be, a follower, just like the EU. Everything the ESA does is derivative and reliant on approval of French and German decision makers. Smart national space policy for smaller nations is to specialize. Canada's robotics (CanadArms), Italy's structures (MPLM and ISS modules), Japan's rocketry (HII) all are better examples than ESA's attempts to do it all and poorly.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:41:46 2020 No.11728115 >>11728100 If you were Musk's lawyer he's fire you because he wants humanity to go to space instead of being bucket crabs

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:42:49 2020 No.11728118 >>11728106 Balloon launch is not a new idea. Also, you need to be 18 or over to post, you illiterate teenager.

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>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:42:54 2020 No.11728120 >>11728106 Alabama Rocket Society in the early '90s, IIRC. The rocket actually launched through the balloon.

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Anonymous Thu May 28 19:48:05 2020 No.11728144
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>>11727892
Skimming through the FFA license, Starship could potentially attempt a hop from Thursday since they have to give 3 business days to declare nominal thrust profile and how much propellant is being loaded.
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ast/licenses_permits/media/Final_%20License%20and%20Orders%20SpaceX%20Starship%20Prototype%20LRLO%2020-119)lliu1.pdf

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:48:57 2020 No.11728151 >>11728144 check it >>11728071

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:50:15 2020 No.11728157 >>11728144 Wednesday* forgot they could send it today and so fri, mon, tue.

Anonymous Thu May 28 19:53:19 2020 No.11728169

>>11728151
I would have thought the FAA would demand the 3 day rule to apply from when the license was given. But then again since the application has been private until now it might have been agreed a few days ago giving them time to send the data early.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:03:01 2020 No.11728190 >>11728115 Patents exist for reasons, including protecting your company's unique inventions.

Anonymous Thu May 28 20:03:48 2020 No.11728192
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>>11728044
>could've developed on any of the reusable rocket concepts since the 70s
>never do
>expect them to suddenly try to innovate rather than stick their heads in the sand
My guess is that alot of the non-US space agencies would just ban the use of SpaceX rockets for payloads from their country.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:15:36 2020 No.11728223 >>11728104 Because we should have space themed space threads. Not children's cartoons

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:18:12 2020 No.11728228 >>11727892 One that works in rain I hope lmao guess that discredits any American “tech”

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:19:35 2020 No.11728233 File: 1.45 MB, 1602x1905, 1590708343502.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26,000 ft airspace restriction for the next hop What does this mean?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:21:46 2020 No.11728241 >>11728228 Noone wants to operate on stormy seas anon

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:22:48 2020 No.11728249 >>11728192 yeah this is probably the most realistic scenario

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:24:14 2020 No.11728254 >>11728065 We should shoot down Chinese rockets

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:25:34 2020 No.11728261 File: 256 KB, 2048x1364, 1590710815361.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728066 Why would they not try to excel are they really that ignorant of how much money space is about to produce?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:26:45 2020 No.11728264 File: 493 KB, 970x1080, 1590463982015.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728144 I want to see a hop so bad. Also any news on the spacex plans for artemis?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:26:47 2020 No.11728265 File: 54 KB, 500x667, c72a9b00b782776b3e3c12c1abc0238d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >stealing content from the weebs

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:27:47 2020 No.11728267 File: 65 KB, 579x900, jklc5bkw2u0z.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728265 Its the only way anon

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:29:59 2020 No.11728274 Anyone know what the brits are up to?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:31:41 2020 No.11728277 File: 64 KB, 1280x720, 1550919061785.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728274 ABDUL ME LAD, TIME FOR YOU TO CHOSE NORF OR SOUF

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:32:48 2020 No.11728282 >>11728277 Kek speaking of indians, whats new with the poo space program?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:33:50 2020 No.11728287 File: 62 KB, 450x280, 1590710495522.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] EXOS Aerospace (the SARGE guys) just blew up their latest test vehicle, which makes me sad they were fun to shitpost with

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:34:15 2020 No.11728288 >>11728100 >If I was Musk's lawyer, I'd be suing the fuck out of Blue Origin Blue Origin has it's own original design though

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:34:40 2020 No.11728290 >>11728282 Don’t they have their own capsule in the works?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:35:33 2020 No.11728294 https://youtu.be/1uoVfZpx5dY?t=85 >tfw you've never seen a rocket launch what's it like bros? has anyone here seen a launch in person?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:35:53 2020 No.11728296 File: 11 KB, 710x444, c1a428f7-f97f-46bc-b233-565590325aab-vol14-1024x640.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728287 Didn’t virgin orbit just an hero a rocket too?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:38:17 2020 No.11728306 >>11728290 Yeah the Gaganyaan

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:40:12 2020 No.11728312 >>11728294 Never which sucks because my gf has seen 2 and she doesn't care about it

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:41:10 2020 No.11728314 >>11728144 how will spacex do thousands of starship launches a year if it's this hard to get permission to launch it

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:42:33 2020 No.11728315 >>11728314 A hop is different from a launch and the FAA knows what they're doing

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:45:12 2020 No.11728325 File: 41 KB, 618x906, 1590713025891.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm interested to see the viewer falloff from the scrub(s). It's sad, yesterday got lot of buzz, doubt it will get even 3/4ths of it this weekend.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:46:35 2020 No.11728331 >>11728325 why did nasa stream have so many more viewers then spacex stream

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:49:05 2020 No.11728338 >>11728287 F Any news on what happened exactly?

Anonymous Thu May 28 20:49:44 2020 No.11728341

>>11728331
Normies don't know about spacex
>>11728325
Idk i think it being rescheduled is a good thing. Average people will have the day off, they now have all seen some news about the launch, and social media has talked about it. Saturday is going to be bigger

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:50:48 2020 No.11728344 >>11728325 it's important to note that the SpaceX youtube stream was unlisted and only available from their website, while the NASA youtube stream was available from youtube front page.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:52:48 2020 No.11728350 File: 69 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault (7).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728338 No idea unfortunately

Anonymous Thu May 28 20:52:59 2020 No.11728352
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Why are NASA and SpaceX dodging questions about the Dragon 2's toilet system? Is it because it's on the ceiling? Or is it because the astronauts are required to literally get tubes shoved up their asses and the poop sucked out *TWICE* before they can fly?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:53:13 2020 No.11728353 >>11728338 They have a press release on their website. https://exosaero.com/2020/05/27/dramatic-engine-test-dubbed-success-amidst-explosion/ tl;dr LOX tank failed during the test.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:53:43 2020 No.11728355 >>11728325 Why are you doing this >>11728319

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:54:20 2020 No.11728357 >>11728314 Theres more risk while development than regular flight. That's why its an issue right now.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:54:41 2020 No.11728358 >>11728352 Because its nothing revolutionary? Why would they answer that?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:55:34 2020 No.11728361 >>11728344 No? I found it just by looking for SpaceX’s channel

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:55:42 2020 No.11728362 >>11728106 It’s an established concept. I think they’re called “rockoons”. They’re not a terrible idea if you’re going for altitude (sounding rockets, amateur rocketry, etc.), but don’t really make going into orbit significantly easier.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:56:08 2020 No.11728363 >>11728352 Probably because it's gross to talk about it in public.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:56:30 2020 No.11728366 File: 387 KB, 832x469, 1590608574693.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728355 Because this is the real thread? Post here instead of in the cartoon thread

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:56:55 2020 No.11728367 >>11728352 wait what

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:57:09 2020 No.11728369 >>11728274 >brits Nothing. UK governmental investment in space is less than American hobbyist investment in space. >>11728288 Drone ship landing, hoverslam, extendable legs. Any good IP lawyer could drag they're ass through the mud for that.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:58:10 2020 No.11728371 >>11728361 Idk i was subscribed to spacex and i had to find it in my subscriptions

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:58:48 2020 No.11728373 >>11728249 Most likely, unfortunately. But I do hope Starship becomes super successful and it gets people (even the normies) to ask "why aren't there more people doing this?" and it sparks a improvement for space flight as a whole.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:58:48 2020 No.11728374 >>11728369 the drone ship landing has preexisting art, Bezos tried to patent it earlier hoverslam and extendable legs aren't unique ideas either

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:00:55 2020 No.11728377 >>11728369 Musk doesn't want to be the only one he wants a spacefaring civilization. Also wtf UK, empire my ass

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:00:58 2020 No.11728379 >>11728357 true

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:02:35 2020 No.11728386 >>11728373 i think its going to be, with these military and nasa contracts and starlink coming out nothing is standing in the way of mars. Once mars comes up their will be money in the water and sharks will come out of the shadows.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:03:10 2020 No.11728390 >>11728367 https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-crew-dragon-spaceship-ceiling-toilet-mystery-proprietary-design-2020-5 https://www.airspacemag.com/daily-planet/please-dont-squeeze-the-astronaut-11638963/

Anonymous Thu May 28 21:04:27 2020 No.11728395

>>11728374
Hoverslam is very much a SpaceX invention or at least bringing out of the conceptual field. Everyone else (Masten, Armadillo) was working on longer thrust periods. The extending legs may or may not be patented but the mechanisms should be.
>>11728377
>only one
Doesn't mean he shouldn't be protecting his unique IP. Actually, the UK's complete failure relates to this, see what's happening with the Sabre engine and USAF investment in it. The Brits can't get out of their own way to save themselves with a good idea.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:04:37 2020 No.11728396 >>11728192 This. SpaceX will still have more then enough contracts from america.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:06:01 2020 No.11728400 File: 41 KB, 970x546, BoTkdfxo9ehAPQG3qMdRxZ-1200-80.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Has there been any talk about planned structures for the moon and mars? Surely someone is looking into that tech.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:07:20 2020 No.11728403 >>11728395 Thats true, especially when its fucking bezos

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:07:23 2020 No.11728404 >>11728400 Metal tubes buried several meters underground

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:07:30 2020 No.11728405 >>11728400 Just live in the Starship.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:08:59 2020 No.11728409 >>11728400 Elon will deliver a boring tunnel to mars and build a large tunnel network that connects mars cities.

Anonymous Thu May 28 21:09:28 2020 No.11728411

>>11728400
3D printing seems to be the thing that NASA is looking into right now. The HASSELL proposal is my personal favorite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIrH01N9AsE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWJ-sE08ASg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITNqPhrCpdM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlVQYsgY2EM

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:09:37 2020 No.11728414 File: 246 KB, 2000x1125, k9fRAZFQtMRWah2Lgqtv3P[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728400 3D printed habitats https://youtu.be/XnrVV0w2jrE these guys won further development funding from NASA after winning a competition

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:10:05 2020 No.11728415 >>11728400 Martian cities will probably mostly be in lava tubes. Apparently you can have Moria esque underground tunnels under the ground because of the lower gravity on Mars.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:10:38 2020 No.11728417 >>11728404 Let's hope not, quality of life will be necessary for a real colony and that means windows

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:11:57 2020 No.11728420 >>11728405 Wouldn't make sense for long term >>11728414 Thats really cool, hopefully they connect them

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:12:01 2020 No.11728422 >>11728411 >Living on the surface Lol

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:13:08 2020 No.11728427 >>11728420 >Wouldn't make sense for long term Sure it would. Tons of pressurized space.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:13:27 2020 No.11728428 >>11728417 A real colony is subject to intense surface radiation. Windows = early death due to cancer.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:13:45 2020 No.11728429 >>11728427 Not when they are sending them back without the occupants

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:14:10 2020 No.11728431 File: 306 KB, 1200x787, jetpacks_on_mars.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728414 Looks ugly, but kinda neat. I can't wait to see some serious space construction.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:14:11 2020 No.11728430 >>11728417 Just go outside

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:15:49 2020 No.11728437 >>11728429 You can leave some and dedicate others to transit.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:18:41 2020 No.11728443 >>11728411 >>11728414 These are so fucking cool. How do i invest

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:18:53 2020 No.11728445 File: 31 KB, 640x351, marscolony.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Imagine this but eventually the entire lava tube might get pressurized

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:19:56 2020 No.11728447 >>11728437 pretty big waste of resources when you could 3d print a habitat

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:20:03 2020 No.11728448 File: 109 KB, 586x438, adobe_on_moon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728400 >planned structures for the moon and mars Sure but everyone's got a boner for the wrong solution. >>11728415 Lava tubes are really dangerous environments.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:20:58 2020 No.11728450 >>11728445 lava tubes are risky and unreliable. Not to mention complicates launch

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:22:00 2020 No.11728453 >>11728448 >Sure but everyone's got a boner for the wrong solution. what solution is that?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:22:09 2020 No.11728455 >>11728282 Manned space launch 2021/2022.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:22:10 2020 No.11728456 >>11727892 >SpaceX have their FAA licese for suborbital flight testing That means hop?

Anonymous Thu May 28 21:22:54 2020 No.11728458

>>11728417
There will probably be public areas that poke up like artificial hills (or that are built into actual hills/cliffs) which have windows and let you feel connected to the outside- but which have window materials, overhead mass shielding, and viewing angles all designed to minimize exposure.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:23:43 2020 No.11728459 >>11728400 Let's get launch costs down and make travel to Mars a regular thing. Then we can settle the issue through experimentation and iteration on-site.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:24:01 2020 No.11728460 >>11728431 Idk i think they look cool, mars should have its own aesthetic. Also i love the old concepts

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:25:39 2020 No.11728465 File: 89 KB, 2338x1222, Starship-Boca-Chica-051920-NASASpaceflight-bocachicagal-SN4-test-prep-4-crop-c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728456 I think so

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:25:46 2020 No.11728466 >>11728453 >what solution is that? Ever try 3D printing a large pressure vessel? Now make it mission critical while doing it on an unprepared site.

Anonymous Thu May 28 21:26:30 2020 No.11728467

>>11728450
>lava tubes are risky and unreliable
They are better then the surface and will be a big help psychologically as they would allow people to get out and move around. Obviously there would be large facilities on the surface too for launches. In all honesty though, we'll probably see a mix of surface and underground colonies.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:26:43 2020 No.11728469 >>11728447 Oh yeah you could go through the trouble of bringing a giant 3D printer and the resources it needs or you could just use the giant metal can you brought with you. Idiot.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:27:54 2020 No.11728472 File: 988 KB, 1437x816, screen-shot-2018-09-24-at-10-27-03-am.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728458 Which would be okay at first but eventually they wouldn't be able to keep regular people there. All the concepts are exterior

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:29:16 2020 No.11728477 >>11728472 No muh radiation

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:31:26 2020 No.11728483 >>11728469 >idiot Considering that is what all of NASAs concepts have been yes. Starships will have the payload capability to bring 3d printing systems and those systems will be cheaper and not waste logistical capabilities

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:32:29 2020 No.11728486 File: 144 KB, 1440x796, vHQcn8XgkMr36ZGTEcYgkP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728477 Not a huge concern

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:35:32 2020 No.11728491 File: 675 KB, 1080x2220, 1590714551611.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fucking tourists >we deserved Fuck you there a private entienity trying to colonize the stars, they don't owe you fucking shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:38:49 2020 No.11728497 >>11728491 they could have broken up those vertical lines a bit to be fair. There's room for improvement design-wise, but complaining about it in the face of all the amazing things they're doing is pretty pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:38:52 2020 No.11728498 >>11728467 >They are better then the surface How? I really don't see how it would be any better. There is too many unknowns and dangers

Anonymous Thu May 28 21:38:56 2020 No.11728499
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>>11728467
>They are better then the surface
We don't know that. That's part of the risk. If there are deep, smooth-sided lava tubes that are also somehow accessible, they might someday be able to inhabited. Shallow tubes like the ones we know exist are extremely dangerous due to collapse risks. Most lava tubes on Earth, excepting a few famous ones in Hawai'i, have vicious, jagged walls.
For both the Moon and Mars habitats, semi-buried engineered structures are the way to go. I prefer Superadobe but there are other good solutions as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:39:30 2020 No.11728504 >>11728491 They should be saying "Hey NASA: We Deserved a Better Rocket".

Anonymous Thu May 28 21:41:06 2020 No.11728508
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>>11728467
>>11728486
>>11728472
>>11728458
>>11728448
>>11728414
>>11728411
>>11728445
>>11728400
Speaking of that, has there been any talk of how they will handle space agriculture?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:41:27 2020 No.11728509 >>11728508 matt damon

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:41:36 2020 No.11728510 >>11728508 >they Who's 'they'?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:42:00 2020 No.11728514 File: 55 KB, 542x543, 1527604648368.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:42:38 2020 No.11728516 >>11728508 Like the picture you posted

Anonymous Thu May 28 21:44:19 2020 No.11728519

>>11728498
Radiation protection, much easier to pressurize, no dust storms, easy access to large amounts of water and important minerals, etc etc. https://www.spaceflightinsider.com/missions/human-spaceflight/underground-towns-moon-mars-future-human-habitats-hidden-lava-tubes/

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:44:46 2020 No.11728521 File: 70 KB, 824x507, matt-damon-martian-2.jpg.824x0_q71_crop-scale.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728509 Boil em mash em stick em in a stew

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:45:48 2020 No.11728523 >>11728510 NASA, theyll be the first doing it

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:46:54 2020 No.11728526 >>11728523 SpaceX will be first, but NASA will definitely help out a lot.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:50:07 2020 No.11728530 >>11728519 They just aren't explored yet unfortunately, plus you don't need all your structures underground, just the important ones

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:52:05 2020 No.11728534 >>11728530 They will be explored in many scientific expeditions in the late 2020s and throughout the 2030s.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:52:48 2020 No.11728535 >>11728526 Spacex will be the first to mars but NASA will probably be the first to setup things like agriculture there. After all scientists, engineers and regular astronauts will be the first to live there.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:54:13 2020 No.11728540 >>11728534 right, eventually it may be a good idea but in the 2020s colony materials will be sent to mars.

Anonymous Thu May 28 21:57:52 2020 No.11728549
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>>11728499
>For both the Moon and Mars habitats, semi-buried engineered structures are the way to go. I prefer Superadobe but there are other good solutions as well.
Agreed, that way you can still have windows. Also tell me more about that pic you posted.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 22:08:19 2020 No.11728573 File: 89 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault (8).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I hope they focus on aesthetic too and don't just make junky structures.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 22:11:07 2020 No.11728581 So what are the future plans for Wallops? Will it be another launch port for larger rockets, or destined to be a reliable cubesat launch location

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 22:12:20 2020 No.11728584 >>11728573 there's a beauty in practicality

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 22:13:29 2020 No.11728589 File: 305 KB, 960x1281, ai-spacefactory-nasa-3d-printed-mars.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728573 Who here would go to mars?

Anonymous Thu May 28 22:14:00 2020 No.11728590
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>>11728573
I think all of the aesthetic would mainly be focused on the inside to avoid depression from being isolated in a tin can far away from home. For the outside, functionality has an aesthetic of its own.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 22:15:12 2020 No.11728593 File: 424 KB, 1280x1013, 1280px-Mars_design_reference_mission_3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728584 I agree in some ways but not for shit like pic related

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 22:17:52 2020 No.11728600 File: 170 KB, 1280x644, 1280px-PIA23302-FirstHumansOnMars-ArtistConcept.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728590 I disagree, there should be both internal and external focus. Most practical designs have been pretty ugly

Anonymous Thu May 28 22:20:26 2020 No.11728605

>>11728523
>>11728535
>NASA, theyll be the first doing it
That's a massive assumption but long answer short, NASA (and NOAA) have grown small amounts of greens like lettuce in LED powered grow chambers. Otherwise, dry and reconstituted foods will be the name of the game for a long time.
The first agriculture beyond these kinds of window gardens are likely to be either fermentation products that add nutrients to material or some kind of aquaculture, not plants.
>>11728519
That's some popsci fluff.
>>11728549
>Tell me more about that pic you posted.
Sure thing! Dr. Khalili was an architect who took his native Persian building types and developed an earthbag building system that he called Superadobe for use under a NASA contract in the mid-80s for lunar bases. It forms natural pressure vessels and on Earth is impervious to fire and earthquakes. The technique is used by the military for refugee housing since it just uses sandbags and barbed wire. For space uses, the bags and regolith moving vehicles are all the need to be shipped from Earth. Even then, basalt cloth bags become a very nice option if they can be made in-situ. Some info is at CalEarth.org.
>>11728573
>focus on aesthetic
Form should be derived from function.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 22:23:43 2020 No.11728610 >>11728605 >That's some popsci fluff. They do site some better sources

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 22:24:45 2020 No.11728612 >>11728605 cite, holy crap i am autistic

Anonymous Thu May 28 22:30:57 2020 No.11728625
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>>11728400
>>11728417
There's these ice houses that sort of fit that bill. Dunno how cost-effective or practical they are, but they look comfy.
https://cloudsao.com/MARS-ICE-HOME
https://cloudsao.com/MARS-ICE-HOUSE

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 22:32:28 2020 No.11728627 >>11728625 Astronomy on mars will be epic when there aren't dust storms.

Anonymous Thu May 28 22:32:47 2020 No.11728629
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>>11728612
A geology professor I occasionally work with specializes in lava tubes. He laughs at the prospect of living in them due to the collapse hazards and texture. His answer was that if you could find one hundreds of meters down, smooth tunneled, and build an elevator down to it, it might be safe.
Planetary base architecture that is built in-situ is likely to look like classical buildings. Barrel vaults, corbel arches and aqueduct malls buried in trenches with something like superadobe domes for large pressurized volumes.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 22:33:51 2020 No.11728631 >>11728627 That is until Marslink starts getting upset. Then we'll get articles from the Olympian that Elon Musk II is destroying the Martian night sky.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 22:40:23 2020 No.11728645 >muh exterior >muh windows Fragile psyches are unfit for Mars. Most of any viable Mars habitat (except for things that have to be exposed, like power generation) won't look like anything but a hillock, and there's nothing wrong with that.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 22:43:54 2020 No.11728653 >>11728645 That's what lightpipes, plants and digital displays are for. Human factors are going to be a huge influence on keeping people's minds together, too.

Anonymous Thu May 28 22:46:29 2020 No.11728658
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>>11728605
>That's a massive assumption
Not really, spacex and NASA work very closely together and NASA will have a large interest in Martian operations. Who else will go there?

Anonymous Thu May 28 22:49:33 2020 No.11728662

>>11728645
You're right, but not everyone who goes will have weighed an accurate assessment of their own mental stability against the stresses of interplanetary settlement. Also, native-born Martians (assuming health problems with low-gravity pregnancy and development are negligible) would not necessarily have hardier psyches than the average Earthman.

You've got to plan for a society that isn't all made up of heroic pioneers with a heart on fire.

Anonymous Thu May 28 22:50:01 2020 No.11728663

>>11728645
>Fragile psyches are unfit for Mars.
You want a permanent colony there, permanent means people need a decent standard of living. You don't want your astronauts exhausted mentally every time they spend a trip on mars. Thats how you keep it a NASA pet project

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 22:52:24 2020 No.11728669 >>11728662 >You've got to plan for a society that isn't all made up of heroic pioneers with a heart on fire. This exactly, we don't want a repeat of the 1960s

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 22:56:14 2020 No.11728675 File: 11 KB, 220x147, 220px-Wiki_bio2_sunset_001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728653 Thats still going to be tough, that is kind of a first for human experienced mental stress. ALSO WHO IS READY FOR BIODOME 3

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 22:57:44 2020 No.11728680 File: 15 KB, 220x170, 220px-Concept_Mars_colony.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Underground mars is the most boring mars

Anonymous Thu May 28 22:59:03 2020 No.11728682
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>>11728658
The assumptions:
>NASA will have enough people there for agriculture
>NASA is somehow now the Farm Bureau
>anyone on Mars will eat anything fresh their whole rotation
>the equipment for anything beyond a salad a week will somehow get to Mars in a reasonable timeframe
I'm just cautious about technological determinism.
Attached is a chamber at the South Pole that, after decades of having people there, is able to produce one salad per person per WEEK. Plants require a lot of resources.
https://photolibrary.usap.gov/PhotoDetails.aspx?filename=pole-growth-chamber-blooming-freshies.jpg

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:00:37 2020 No.11728686 >>11728675 BioSphere 3 is happening? The original setup was really amazing. >>11728680 Let's just roam around on the surface in loincloths and SCBA rebreathers, then.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:03:55 2020 No.11728692 >>11728680 Mars is a meme goal with limited usefulness Industrializing the Moon and establishing orbital infrastructure and industry to spam O'Neill cylinders is where it's at.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:04:18 2020 No.11728694 File: 46 KB, 1006x416, 625d297b24115d2af6425a80335a1f6d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728686

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:06:11 2020 No.11728697 >>11728274 Sabre

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:06:37 2020 No.11728698 >>11728686 >BioSphere 3 is happening Probably not, no idea what hes smoking

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:06:55 2020 No.11728699 >>11728274 spewing propaganda against India and China, as usual

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:08:05 2020 No.11728703 File: 143 KB, 2048x944, EYm5V6WWoAAomKW.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728692 >Mars is a meme goal meme or not its going to happen and there's nothing you can do about it

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:09:19 2020 No.11728705 File: 16 KB, 320x320, 1590424878880.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728686 >Let's just roam around on the surface in loincloths and SCBA rebreathers, then I mean i wouldn't say no to that

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:09:52 2020 No.11728707 >>11728692 Mars IS a meme goal - but it's a convincing enough meme that will require setting up a significant amount of infrastructure that will help get the actually useful shit kickstarted.

Anonymous Thu May 28 23:10:11 2020 No.11728708

>>11728692
I agree, especially orbital industrial development, but Mars is a great focus to engage people. Most of what will happen with humans in space is going to be in space, not on planetary surfaces. People have, however, dreamed of Mars forever.
>>11728694
Sweet.
>>11728705
I'll bring the 55 gallon drums of lube.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:21:24 2020 No.11728730 >>11728692 The Moon is more limited in resources than Mars. It's also too close to dirty T*rrans

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:23:38 2020 No.11728733 File: 139 KB, 1200x675, 1583459327151.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this is probably what underground mars, moon, and other colonies would look like

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:24:34 2020 No.11728735 >>11728508 Literally just use the same hydroponics we do on Earth

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:25:47 2020 No.11728739 >>11728733 what is that from

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:26:18 2020 No.11728740 >>11728589 Who wouldn’t? Sounds awesome as long as I can send messages back and forth to my family

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:27:33 2020 No.11728741 >>11728739 The Expanse

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:32:01 2020 No.11728748 >>11728692 Orbital habitats are cringe and no one cares about them. People want to live on planets.

Anonymous Thu May 28 23:32:32 2020 No.11728749

>>11728733
>fake clouds
i think humans will quickly outgrow their need for such silly things. You can even see during this corona situation the people cooped up at home after just a few weeks adapt to it and start shunning the outside world, refusing to shower, etc. The typical NEET is simply responding to their conditions, and the alleged need for outside exposure/light/clouds/open spaces are just a form of stubborness and fear of change causing normies to make up excuses about how things are good and natural just because thats what they are subjected to in their daily normal lives and humans tend to defend their conditions because they romanticize them as a coping mechanism to deal with the suffering of existence.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:35:43 2020 No.11728755 >>11728749 Transparent NEET incel with suicidal depression. Going outside is healthy and you should get out of your cave

Anonymous Thu May 28 23:37:37 2020 No.11728761

>>11728749
The emulated sky is silly but the larger, open space is not quite as ridiculous. Though probably a bit less wide, I can't imagine those streets would need to carry high-speed personal traffic.
>>11728755
Going outside and socializing is healthy when there isn't a pandemic.

Anonymous Thu May 28 23:39:17 2020 No.11728766

>>11728748
Why live on a planet when you can live in a cylinder with
>perfect weather all the time
>completely predictable, controllable environment
>gravity tailored to your needs
>zero G and high G just a short elevator ride away
>exotic ecosystems and perfect copies of Earth ecosystems
If spinning habitats become real, they are going to trigger an immense real estate boom.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:39:21 2020 No.11728767 >>11728761 Oh shit I could get a cough with less than 0.2% chance of killing me Not scared. Gonna keep going outside.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:39:59 2020 No.11728769 >>11728733 Looks awful

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:40:23 2020 No.11728770 >>11728766 >Why live on a planet when you can live in a cylinder Because a cylinder is not a planet. I’d rather live on Charon in a bunker that a cylinder.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:41:08 2020 No.11728776 File: 406 KB, 1280x848, 1574264709980.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728733 It reminds me of Las Vegas Fremont Street.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:41:43 2020 No.11728779 >>11728766 >perfect weather all the time I don't want that.

Anonymous Thu May 28 23:42:44 2020 No.11728781

>>11728761
>The emulated sky is silly but the larger, open space is not quite as ridiculous
If anything it's the opposite. Space is always at a premium off Earth, wide open thoroughfairs make no sense. The space you do have should be filled with piped light at appropriate wavelengths for health. And because it's not as ridiculously massive as that, it's less of a job to actually make and maintain it.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:42:51 2020 No.11728782 >>11728779 This. Rain and storms are cool. Utilitarians should be gassed

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:43:18 2020 No.11728785 >>11728761 >The emulated sky is silly Not really, mental health is going to be mission critical

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:43:52 2020 No.11728788 >>11728781 >Space is always at a premium off Earth, wide open thoroughfairs make no sense. Scientists baffled. Man on internet proves it’s impossible to dig a big hole off of Earth, or make a big building.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:45:11 2020 No.11728791 >>11728782 Honestly I'd want a climate like you have in summit county colorado

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:45:23 2020 No.11728794 >>11728788 You've got to actively maintain every space you make habitable. It makes no sense to use the space you make inefficiently.

Anonymous Thu May 28 23:45:45 2020 No.11728796
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Actually, I like the grass/park idea more. There will probably some grass areas and some street areas though. Grass is obviously where the richfags will live while the poors will be lucky to get a sky at all.

Anonymous Thu May 28 23:48:21 2020 No.11728802

>>11728794
>You've got to actively maintain every space you make habitable

Simple enough.

>It makes no sense to use the space you make inefficiently.

Humans aren’t little robots that hide in cubbyholes when not at work. They are not super “rational” Vulcans. We want luxury, and we will have it.

Anonymous Thu May 28 23:49:47 2020 No.11728805
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>>11728770
Habitats are likely to come in many configurations, not just O'Neill Cylinders. Island 3s are actually one of the less likely configurations.
>>11728779
I'll sell you a Patagonia Special for ¥7,000,000,000. All the predatory animals and bad weather you can imagine.
>>11728782
My idea of perfect weather might be different than yours. That's the whole point of lots of different space habitats. It's not utilitarian, it's preservationist.
I'd choose a far North Atlantic ecosystem where I can hunt seals and catch cod under 40mph winds.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:53:28 2020 No.11728814 >>11728805 I don’t have an idea of “Perfect weather”. I want all weather

Anonymous Thu May 28 23:55:50 2020 No.11728820

>>11728794
Tell that to the NIMBYists who prevent the construction of housing denser than single-family detached and oppose the construction of infrastructure needed to sustain their sprawl. People do nonsensical things even when space becomes an issue.

>>11728814
Okay, but what climate? I'm assuming a temperate one, so as to have all the seasons, but even that has some pretty wild variations, man.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:56:31 2020 No.11728822 Weathermen on Earth predict the weather, weathermen in space create the weather.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:56:39 2020 No.11728824 >>11728820 I don’t have a favorite climate. I like all climates.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:58:09 2020 No.11728825 >>11728814 >I want all weather Highly unlikely. >>11728820 Space habitats would enable people to try lots of new solutions, some of which would filter back down to Earth.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:00:51 2020 No.11728829 >>11728825 >Highly unlikely. I like thunder storms, blizzards, hazy cloudless hot days, windy days, snow, etc. The only things I don’t like are things that are likely to kill me.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:01:52 2020 No.11728830 File: 2.46 MB, 4250x2815, Koppen.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728824 You must live somewhere you find at least survivable on this rock, what climate is it?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:02:31 2020 No.11728832 >>11728829 Then you don't like all weather. My favorite weather is stuff that's trying to actively kill me. It'd be amazing to have an entire habitat like Kodiak Island or Labrador.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:03:55 2020 No.11728833 >>11728830 I enjoy a temperate American climate. It can be over a hundred degrees Fahrenheit in the summer and drop into the 20’s and even lower in the winter. I enjoy the variety.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:04:47 2020 No.11728835 >>11728682 One salad per week for 40-50 people is pretty good out of that tiny room.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:06:10 2020 No.11728841 >>11728833 You say that, but which one? Look at the map, man, there's quite a variety in climate. Our nation spans a continent, and different areas experience wildly different weather conditions throughout the year.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:08:55 2020 No.11728845 >>11728841 Cfb

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:10:18 2020 No.11728847 File: 323 KB, 2064x1897, MARSHA-cutaway-profile-AI-SpaceFactory-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >3 stories >blocks radiation >made with regolith >3d printed I'm pretty positive we will see these on mars

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:10:30 2020 No.11728849 >>11728730 The moon is pretty good on resources, you just have to dig for them. You can't suck carbon out of the nonexistent air but it turns out that shit is basically everywhere on the moon anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:11:31 2020 No.11728852 File: 1.34 MB, 1360x1200, 5dc451abb3f0c92dfeecebdf_inhabitat-aisf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728847 Even fits a Martian aesthetic

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:11:32 2020 No.11728851 >>11728847 >blocks radiation How well?

Anonymous Fri May 29 00:11:46 2020 No.11728853

>>11728835
It's a major achievement. It also points to exactly how hard space ag will be. I calculated it once, it's something like 8 Progress capsules of Mountain Home dried food to feed an adult for life, plus water and energy. That's a stark contrast to agricultural equipment and systems.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:12:41 2020 No.11728854 File: 3.35 MB, 2000x1133, ai. - Tera - NewFriend - CopyrightPlomp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728847 Seriously what else would it be?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:12:51 2020 No.11728857 >>11728851 Looks about a half meter thick, so equivalent to maybe 30,000' altitude on Earth.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:13:53 2020 No.11728859 >>11728851 you could augment it by storing water at the top

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:16:16 2020 No.11728866 >>11728851 pretty well because of the polymer material. The project was the winner of NASAs cosmic competition

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:20:15 2020 No.11728874 >>11728851 Not sure but its a mix of basalt, martian dirt and corn based polymer

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:22:27 2020 No.11728879 >>11728859 >top Doesn't help much on a 3 story building. >>11728874 Lots of corn on Mars.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:23:22 2020 No.11728881 >>11728879 There will be, the Netherlands is showing us how to vertical farm

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:23:46 2020 No.11728883 >>11728879 Grow it there

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:24:25 2020 No.11728884 File: 131 KB, 1582x791, c03f50c6b7573dd9b2927dac8175a1c9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728854 Posting a few more concept pics

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:25:14 2020 No.11728886 >>11728881 >>11728883 I'm not sure splitting agricultural output between food and construction is a good idea for a fledgling economy.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:25:27 2020 No.11728888 File: 20 KB, 400x300, ai-spacefactory-mars-habitat-interior-recreation.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728884

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:31:21 2020 No.11728900 >>11728886 The first loads would be taken there but i don't see what the alternative is, the other team used concrete which had its own challenges

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:31:37 2020 No.11728901 >>11728573 God I hope modern "art"chitecture faggots are prohibited from ever leaving Earth so that their ability to shit up aesthetic is contained like the disease it is.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:33:47 2020 No.11728904 File: 41 KB, 600x480, MARS6-600x480.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728888

Anonymous Fri May 29 00:35:57 2020 No.11728908
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>>11728879
This is a bit goofy, but you could create a sort of water dome over the main living area. I thought of a few additional reasons to use it, but there's probably way better ways to structure something like this.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:37:25 2020 No.11728910 >>11728901 Why? That looks good. Plus if anything should be modern it should be a new planet

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:37:43 2020 No.11728911 File: 583 KB, 3000x1500, Mars Ice Home.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728908 Well there's these: >>11728625

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:40:44 2020 No.11728916 >>11728911 lol it's like living in a tokamak

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:43:41 2020 No.11728920 File: 583 KB, 2048x1371, images (3).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can we just start dumping algae on mars and wait for the oxygen to pour it

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:44:36 2020 No.11728923 >>11728920 No. Dump lichen instead.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:44:45 2020 No.11728926 >>11728920 Life is a disease and must not leave earth

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:46:30 2020 No.11728935 File: 57 KB, 640x360, mauricio-pampin-mars5-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728629 Yep thats why noone seems to take it seriously. Plus there's no way it would be doable for the first structures

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:47:33 2020 No.11728937 >>11728923 Why not both. >>11728926 We are the disease and we must jump hosts

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:48:28 2020 No.11728942 >>11728926 Maybe your life is a disease, just to humanity though.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:48:59 2020 No.11728946 File: 19 KB, 600x315, Mars-Ice-House.jpg.600x315_q71_crop-smart.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728911 They do look cool

Anonymous Fri May 29 00:54:44 2020 No.11728962
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>>11728920
We need to stick a magnet in a certain place out in space first. This is difficult, but far from impossible even with current tech-a mere 1 tesla magnet would suffice, about the strength of existing MRI magnets. The effects would be staggering-within a few years, you could start walking around on mars in a heavy coat with a breathing mask instead of a pressure suit. The rad situation would also sharply improve as the now protected atmosphere regenerated.

This is a project to approach in earnest as we push on towards colonizing mars.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:56:17 2020 No.11728965 >>11728962 Atmosphere loss to solar wind is peanuts, what the hell are you talking about

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 00:56:41 2020 No.11728969 >>11728962 The radiation is irrelevant to microbes.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:02:07 2020 No.11728979 >>11728965 Yeah this seems like a late stage terraforming solution to the radiation you would get from walking around the surface of Mars that isn't blocked by the new atmosphere.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:16:26 2020 No.11729001 >>11728965 >Atmosphere loss to solar wind is peanuts It's what ripped off Mars's original atmosphere once the planet's magnetic field failed.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:16:45 2020 No.11729003 File: 119 KB, 1280x720, hassell inside.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why didn't the hassell concept go further?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:17:47 2020 No.11729006 File: 64 KB, 1100x619, hassell external.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729003

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:20:48 2020 No.11729010 >>11729001 Over many millions of years. This is a low-urgency problem.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:22:47 2020 No.11729014 File: 640 KB, 1234x870, Sandstorm approaching 3D-printed Mars base by Hassell & EOC (NASA’s 3D-Printed Habitat Challenge).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729006

Anonymous Fri May 29 01:25:05 2020 No.11729024

>>11729001
Yes, on the scale of hundreds of millions of years. A magnetic shield from the solar wind would provide negligible benefit in terms of atmosphere retention on human time scales. In any serious atmosphere regeneration effort, it would be essentially unnoticeable.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:30:03 2020 No.11729035 File: 1018 KB, 1920x2716, NASA3dHabitat_8_detailport_e86bd4a6d02e0c9fb7293fdbaf550166.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729014 does it not seem the most logical to everyone else?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:31:54 2020 No.11729039 File: 371 KB, 900x772, c073c1b5f52967767ee113d420b99db6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:34:24 2020 No.11729044 >>11728884 lol hope you don't fall down the stairs bro

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:35:29 2020 No.11729047 >>11729044 You’d be fine It’s .33 g

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:40:40 2020 No.11729056 >>11729044 pretty easy to make a railing anon

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:41:42 2020 No.11729058 File: 36 KB, 1000x372, 3D-printed Mars base MARSHA solar panels by AI SpaceFactory (NASA’s 3D-Printed Habitat Challenge).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728852 absolutely lovely

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:42:40 2020 No.11729060 >>11729058 Do you nerds really believe anyone will live on another planet? We will be extinct from climate change within ten years

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:45:17 2020 No.11729063 File: 62 KB, 1000x1001, mars ranch.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729014 I have been INSPIRED

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:45:40 2020 No.11729064 File: 305 KB, 1920x1080, 1590237837107.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729060 >Do you nerds really believe anyone will live on another planet? yes >We will be extinct from climate change within ten years weak bait

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:46:18 2020 No.11729065 >>11729060 pretty convenient that the end days just happen to occur in the century that you're alive, and not that you're just a drama queen. mars is ours

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:46:42 2020 No.11729066 >>11729063 the cows should have cow colored suits

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:51:21 2020 No.11729072 File: 50 KB, 1000x1001, mars ranch 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729066 forgive my mistake

Anonymous Fri May 29 01:51:37 2020 No.11729073
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>>11728901
I don't like modern architecture either, but that's a tad extreme. Instead they should live in the bases they designed, surely that'll get them to change their minds. Rocketpunk is superior.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:56:10 2020 No.11729082 >>11729064 Thats beautiful

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:56:28 2020 No.11729083 File: 218 KB, 1375x700, pepe-delgado-navarro-space-girl-tumblr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729072 its beautiful anon

Anonymous Fri May 29 01:59:04 2020 No.11729086
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>>11729073
>surely that'll get them to change their minds.
Doubt it, id much rather be in that one than any of the concepts you guys posted.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:00:06 2020 No.11729090 I'm planning on applying to various jobs in Antarctica. I think spending a few months there will improve my chances of being first in queue for Mars missions. Anyone else applying?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:04:36 2020 No.11729099 >>11729090 Send pics when you get there

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:10:20 2020 No.11729106 >>11728119 Should have checked the poles of your control system...

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:15:03 2020 No.11729112 File: 392 KB, 1116x1117, 1589254112143.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reddit has their Nexus Aurora Mars Colony Project. We should make a 4chan one

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:24:15 2020 No.11729131 File: 2.05 MB, 960x716, mars2.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11728733 This is what Mars would look like

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:29:55 2020 No.11729141 >>11729131 Anime is for fags anon and nothing in that gif made any sense

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:32:01 2020 No.11729146 >>11727906 We are too busy giving free money to Shitaly to care about space.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:32:26 2020 No.11729147 Another thunderstorm is expected on saturday by 3pm

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:42:47 2020 No.11729156 is it saturday yet >>11729147 fuck

Anonymous Fri May 29 02:53:43 2020 No.11729171

>>11727897
The payload to LEO is going to be measured in grams. Can't see how the Adeline is going to beat a Falcon 9 in affordability considering how massive the fans would be to slow the stage down by a couple hundred m/s. Also seems more dangerous considering the fans would only produce rocket engine level thrust near sea level.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:58:17 2020 No.11729179 >>11728847 Eventually, but I doubt NASA / CNSA / Roscosmos are going to use these in a first mission.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 03:03:27 2020 No.11729187 >>11728965 You know better than the Planetary Science Division's director? https://www.wired.co.uk/article/magnetic-shield-mars-habitable

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 03:15:05 2020 No.11729211 File: 158 KB, 725x516, Mars 3-D Team_0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >https://youtu.be/iVDY5m2lx3w The more i look into it the more i think penn state had the best thought out model. They just need to change to a polymer

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 03:16:12 2020 No.11729214 >>11729179 Maybe not but spacex probably would for the first few permanent structures

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 03:29:06 2020 No.11729247 >>11729211 I also like the hex design of this one >https://youtu.be/2TLnCOCVicE

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 03:42:27 2020 No.11729270 >>11729214 If anything, SpaceX will think of a much simpler/cost effective/efficient way to make a permanent structure. Something that cost less than a million, instead of hundreds of million/billions of dollar.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 03:47:09 2020 No.11729278 >>11728400 It’ll be cubes or maybe cylinders made out of Martian brick and concrete, not retarded meme domes with tons of glass Just need an air proof layer

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 03:51:18 2020 No.11729288 >>11729270 Yeah, leaving behind a couple Starships to use as building material since stainless steel is just about the easiest thing in the universe to work with.

Anonymous Fri May 29 04:07:34 2020 No.11729323
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>>11729270
>>11729288
Not sure how a starship is going to be cheaper than 3d printing habitats. Not to mention that would mean taking active starships out of SpaceX's fleet. Also Elon wants a permanent settlement there and he is taking steps to have that kind of money. He will spend a decent amount on habitats or get NASA to do it for him.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 04:11:14 2020 No.11729331 >>11729323 There won’t be any 3d printing... it’ll be poured concrete with insulating boards of foam

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 04:15:44 2020 No.11729337 >>11729331 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIvrIKaNCRE try reading the thread for once

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 04:29:34 2020 No.11729358 >>11729337 Enjoy your cuck egg Fact: none of this shits is going to be used People go first and build, not autonomous 3d printers

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 04:37:28 2020 No.11729377 >>11729358 sure, that's why NASA just had this competition, because its not relevant... retard

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 04:51:21 2020 No.11729399 >>11729377 NASA is irrelevant

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 04:52:13 2020 No.11729401 File: 200 KB, 361x363, pepe-small-space-happy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729337 This is actually an excellent video

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 04:53:15 2020 No.11729405 >>11729399 Are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 04:57:22 2020 No.11729412 File: 157 KB, 1440x810, Dynetics ALPACA lander.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] anyone have any info on dynetics?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 04:58:17 2020 No.11729414 >>11729412 no

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 04:58:50 2020 No.11729415 >>11729414 nice post

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 04:59:38 2020 No.11729416 >>11729415 nobody knows jack or shit about the Dynetics lander beyond what you have in your image

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:02:57 2020 No.11729427 >>11729416 better post

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:03:37 2020 No.11729429 File: 1.65 MB, 1214x1109, bd81663a1042318733ef53216c0cc1cc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729427

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:03:49 2020 No.11729431 >>11729412 It's a moon bunny lander for the moon.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:09:32 2020 No.11729448 File: 9 KB, 225x225, images (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729429 Go be an anime faggot somewhere else

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:10:20 2020 No.11729450 File: 176 KB, 1440x810, Blue-Origin integrated lander.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729431 better than the tiny junker from blue orgin

Anonymous Fri May 29 05:13:53 2020 No.11729456

>>11729450
I think it's the most solid of the three for the mission specs laid out. The drop tank solution is elegant and shipping new ones with the cheap thrusters it uses is simple and cheap. Starship is too fucking big, but if the mission turns into a real fucking moon base on the ground with massive in-situ resource extraction, that's the natural choice.

But as Artemis stands now, Dynetics would be the natural choice in my opinion.
But of course, they'll pick the mismatched autist stack, because it's another pork barrel jobs program.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:16:45 2020 No.11729462 >>11729456 >Starship is too fucking big Which is perfect, in space you can never have too many supplies and for a pricetag cheaper than the other 2 it just makes the most sense.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:18:45 2020 No.11729468 >>11729462 Oil tanker to ship a carton of milk. As it stands now I don't think we're getting anything more out of Artemis but a single flags and footprints mission Soon™.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:20:29 2020 No.11729470 >>11729468 If the oil tanker is cheaper to ship the milk carton then why not? also since you have so much space why not send some more stuff.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:21:17 2020 No.11729473 >>11729468 Are you batshit? Starship will be crammed with solar panels and robots and ISRU shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:21:39 2020 No.11729476 >>11729470 >>11729473 You seem to forget that this is a NASA mission.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:22:10 2020 No.11729477 File: 42 KB, 369x721, vv8hson3vlw41.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So this is one of reddit's mars habitat concepts

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:22:21 2020 No.11729479 >>11729468 your options are a liberty ship, fresh off the line, or a private yacht

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:25:44 2020 No.11729482 >>11729323 Starship brings the 3d printers over anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:29:11 2020 No.11729487 File: 686 KB, 1437x1208, 1590743257145.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729476 Who is now in a fight to stay relevant.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:42:35 2020 No.11729512 >>11729482 Exactly, literally zero reason to waste a functioning starship by leaving it there.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:45:12 2020 No.11729516 >Muh magic 3d printers using magic materials to print pressure vessels

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:46:04 2020 No.11729517 >>11729473 This

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:47:51 2020 No.11729518 File: 16 KB, 184x184, 1590242167980.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729516 watch the fucking videos faggot. They literally did it in a warehouse in Indiana and then tested them

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:50:33 2020 No.11729520 File: 144 KB, 768x512, Mars Phase 3-3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Also penn state got robbed

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:53:12 2020 No.11729526 File: 566 KB, 2444x3000, BlueOrigin_NewGlenn_alternate1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone have updates on blue orgin?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:58:30 2020 No.11729540 >>11729476 And?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 05:58:46 2020 No.11729541 File: 104 KB, 994x930, c78d177b235742248bb63ec8c0dd2603.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729526 no

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:01:47 2020 No.11729546 >>11729526 I hear they're ferociously waiting.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:02:19 2020 No.11729547 >>11729546 For what >>11729541 Kys

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:03:13 2020 No.11729550 >>11729547 Who knows. They're not telling. But they're very good at moving ferociously slow.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:03:30 2020 No.11729551 File: 236 KB, 1600x1600, 44c9bdb987679fd7efda2d910785f312.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729547 more paychecks from Jeff

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:03:57 2020 No.11729554 >>11729550 As is everyone except spacex it seems

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:08:02 2020 No.11729560 File: 241 KB, 600x479, 1590608578416.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Saturday is looking like rain...

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:09:20 2020 No.11729563 >>11729560 Should get the L-1 forecast in ~2-3 hours or so.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:15:49 2020 No.11729580 File: 643 KB, 750x736, 1590429795350 (1).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729563 Good lets hope its optimistic

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:17:21 2020 No.11729584 >>11729580 https://www.patrick.af.mil/About-Us/Weather/ Bookmark this shit. They're the guys who fly recon for weather forecasts for all missions out of the cape. It's usually done 8am EST.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:22:40 2020 No.11729591 Bump limit reached new thread >>11729589 >>11729589 >>11729589 >>11729589

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:23:48 2020 No.11729593 >>11729584 no shit, thanks!

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:23:53 2020 No.11729594 >>11729591 This is /sci/. We don't make new threads here until it hits page 9 or 10.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:24:52 2020 No.11729598 >>11729591 KYS.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:25:01 2020 No.11729599 >>11729593 You're welcome.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:25:53 2020 No.11729601 >>11729594 Why? This is going quick

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:26:17 2020 No.11729602 >>11729601 Fuck off, you transplant nigger.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:27:12 2020 No.11729605 >>11729601 Because /sci/ is a very slow board. Get used to it.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:27:29 2020 No.11729606 >>11729602 Deal with it

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:30:18 2020 No.11729613 >>11729605 I deleted it, thanks for not being a faggot like the other guy

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:33:15 2020 No.11729624 >>11729613 Your ridiculous autism already split the thread once. Never post a thread again, you fucking retard.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:35:17 2020 No.11729627 >>11729624 What the fuck are you talking about all i did was start a new thread.(which i deleted)

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:39:12 2020 No.11729633 >>11729627 Don't worry about him he is just a manchild from /a/ who is buttblasted because people bumped the good thread instead of his weeb bullshit

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:41:06 2020 No.11729637 >>11729633 No, I'm sick of there being a dozen /sfg/s up because people can't get their shit together.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 06:43:47 2020 No.11729644 >>11729637 >a dozen /sfg/s up That never happened you absolute crossboarder, this is the first time in weeks because of some buttblasted avatarfag, and mods usually delete one of them or at least kill its bump limit.

Anonymous Fri May 29 06:46:11 2020 No.11729648

>>11729644
A dozen is obviously an exaggeration, but immediately after the last thread there were four /sfg/s up at the same time because you faggots couldn't stop spamming new threads out of offence, and now we have absolute braindead newfags posting at page 3. Shut the fuck up and admit that you're all fucking retarded.

Anonymous Fri May 29 07:31:39 2020 No.11729717
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Amazing how we used to have the occasional anime poster since the inception of /sfg/ with minimal complaints and mostly functional threads, until this first crewed flight when a bunch of fucking homos showed up and shit all over the thread at the hint of an anime picture all the while claiming they have been posting on /sfg/ longer than anyone else. It's just some fucking cartoons, get over yourselves reddit newfags.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 07:34:40 2020 No.11729725 File: 673 KB, 1000x750, efdbb4ebe75a27f89733229662a6b458.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729717 fuck off, frogposter

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 07:37:35 2020 No.11729728 File: 12 KB, 249x249, images (32).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729725 I'm defending your shit avatars you fucking retarded anime pedophile.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 07:38:34 2020 No.11729731 >>11729728 like I give a fuck

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 07:39:07 2020 No.11729734 >>11729717 It's mostly eurofag cope. They can't deal with the best nation on Earth conquering the next frontier while they mill about.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 07:41:17 2020 No.11729742 >>11729734 And here is the other unfortunate type of newfag, the swarms of magapedes, you are a plague worse than reddit posters. Even /pol/ hates you imbeciles.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 07:41:30 2020 No.11729743 Here we go again. Get some fucking jannies in here for cleanup.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 07:41:42 2020 No.11729744 >>11729742 Exhibit A.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 07:42:42 2020 No.11729746 File: 84 KB, 681x1024, 1590714450891m.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729743 Fuck jannies

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 07:45:53 2020 No.11729757 >>11728833 Subarctic.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 07:47:10 2020 No.11729759 >>11728884 That's a ugly ass interior

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 07:47:56 2020 No.11729760 File: 168 KB, 981x566, 1585866866436.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] China will launch in about 20 minutes, just a small satellite, tech demo >Long March 11 \| CX-6-01 satellite \| Xichang Satellite Launch Center, China \| 20:03 UTC

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 07:49:18 2020 No.11729763 >>11729760 in b4 they drop boosters on Taiwan and the third stage turns into fireworks.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 07:53:51 2020 No.11729779 >>11729760 dropping more stages on villages, huh

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 08:06:02 2020 No.11729795 >>11729763 nvm, LM-11 is some 4 stage solid booster shit with 750 kg to LEO crap.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 08:09:11 2020 No.11729801 >>11729795 >what if we just stacked fireworks until we got to orbit >great idea, Chang, leverage glorious Chinese heritage

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 08:10:40 2020 No.11729810 >>11729801 My country is going to do the exact same shit, except with hybrids for small sat garbage from Andøya. At least hybrids can be stopped and reignited. It's really unimaginative though.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 08:20:45 2020 No.11729829 >>11729810 Be happy Norge is at least doing some shit with space, could've used that money on yet more sårbar ungdom.

Anonymous Fri May 29 08:22:34 2020 No.11729833

>>11729829
>could've used that money on yet more sårbar ungdom
Oh but we are, we're using far more money on "sårbar ungdom".
If you want something done in this country, you have you do it yourself, so I'll be working on a liquid fuel engine myself once shit gets more back to normal.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 08:40:28 2020 No.11729864 File: 235 KB, 1600x808, EVGdfFOUUAI06Uy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729448 Cope

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 08:46:37 2020 No.11729874 I felt like a genius when I realized I could use the RCS on my spacecraft in docking mode in KSP to perform correction burns and adjust my orbit to a finer degree not possible with the main thruster.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 08:54:49 2020 No.11729901 >>11729760 People say they'll never launch LM9, but they're already on LM11! Checkmate, Americans! >>11729864 What is this from? Getting Saga vibes.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 08:57:18 2020 No.11729907 >>11729901 it's one of InCase's non-porno drawings he does those from time to time

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 08:57:59 2020 No.11729908 >>11729907 Porn should be illegal

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 09:17:04 2020 No.11729950 >>11729908 There are no little boys for you to touch in space, Cardinal

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 09:19:49 2020 No.11729959 >>11729950 Get a wife and fuck them, degenerate.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 09:40:27 2020 No.11729994 File: 133 KB, 1280x720, 1582783382261.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729734 >best nation on earth sorry you can never get into space because you make up 2/3 of the ships dry mass

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 09:40:39 2020 No.11729995 L-1 forecast 50% Saturday, 40% Sunday. Just coinflip my blue balls into LEO already.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 09:41:26 2020 No.11729997 >>11729994 Americans landed on the moon before you were born.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 09:42:18 2020 No.11730000 >>11729995 https://www.patrick.af.mil/Portals/14/Weather/Falcon 9 Dragon Crew Demo-2 L-1 Day Forecast - 30 May Launch.pdf?ver=2020-05-29-092624-233

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 09:46:38 2020 No.11730006 >>11729994 kek I'm probably one of the few fit posters among you larpers

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 09:49:17 2020 No.11730014 >>11729997 and they fucked the entire thing up a few years later with the shuttle program

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 09:55:37 2020 No.11730026 File: 65 KB, 200x300, GIGAGOD.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11730006 Just going on /fit/ doesn't count boy

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 10:04:33 2020 No.11730044 File: 397 KB, 1131x1434, Saturn5_USAFlag_launch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729997 Based.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 10:07:15 2020 No.11730048 >>11730026 stop revolving your entire life around 4chan, shitposting on /sfg/ is all I do here these days and it's for the best

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 10:40:35 2020 No.11730100 File: 57 KB, 283x572, Screen Shot 2020-05-29 at 10.40.00 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729901 >LM11

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 10:42:18 2020 No.11730105 File: 153 KB, 974x607, Screen Shot 2020-05-29 at 10.41.47 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >50% chance of no launch were fucked

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 11:00:40 2020 No.11730145 >>11728682 Honestly seems reasonable to send out the materials for two of those per 10-15 colonists.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 11:00:43 2020 No.11730146 >>11729323 >>11729288 Single Starship has space equivalent to ~27 x 20 foot shipping containers. Starship has tons of usable space that can be refitted as perma structure on Mars/Moon.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 11:01:12 2020 No.11730148 File: 1.06 MB, 1465x693, unknown.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Big Jim says this thread is sinking Big Jim says come join us in the other thread You'd better listen to Big Jim

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 11:06:17 2020 No.11730163 >>11728874 What is with you 'muricans and putting corn in everything? To my knowledge there are no subsidies for corn farmers on mars.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 11:06:58 2020 No.11730166 >>11730163 corn is fucking delicious

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 11:07:16 2020 No.11730167 New bread >>11727838 >>11727838 >>11727838

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 11:19:13 2020 No.11730197 >>11730167 That one is older, lying idiot.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 11:22:17 2020 No.11730205 >>11730197 yes

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 11:25:37 2020 No.11730214 >>11730197 This is what happens when you split the threads.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 11:27:09 2020 No.11730220 >>11730214 People lie when threads are split? Unsurprising, and don’t care.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 11:28:11 2020 No.11730222 >>11730220 Lurk more newfag

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 11:31:50 2020 No.11730230 >>11730222 Lurk less oldfag

Anonymous Fri May 29 12:05:57 2020 No.11730292

>>11729337
The corn thing frankly sounds fucking retarded, agriculture is super resource and energy intensive, it's an unnecessary extra step which adds a substantial amount of time and complexity to an already complicated process. It is a good idea to figure out how to grow your food on Mars, but not one to make being able to construct buildings also inter-reliant on a steady supply of crops. Just use cork, it's cheap, light, can create stronger, lighter cements, and can easily be transported by heavy lift rockets in huge bulk.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 12:09:36 2020 No.11730297 when's the last time a human-rated space travel vessel was designed and built? I feel like it has been many many decades

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 13:13:40 2020 No.11730427 >>11729648 There were 2 and we shouldn't have anime /sfg/s it is unrelated to spaceflight and should unironically be banned.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 13:15:10 2020 No.11730431 >>11729717 nah fuck anime. They're newfags too

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 13:15:12 2020 No.11730432 >>11730427 This, topic should be something about spaceflight

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 13:20:35 2020 No.11730451 File: 55 KB, 800x820, 1589485320885.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11730163 It was stronger than the concrete competition. We space Nebraska now

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 13:22:34 2020 No.11730458 File: 60 KB, 640x360, At+least+jojo+didnt+spawn+a+ton+of+weeb+cringe+_d44ea703477510aedb65ffbdf5034d16.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11730167 Fuck off with that old shit weeb

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 13:26:00 2020 No.11730470 >>11730292 Its not a cement its a polymer, its stronger than the cement and can be re melted down. Corn will be easy to grow and obviously they will send the first loads with it, but everything else needs to be able to gather or grow on mars.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 13:26:21 2020 No.11730471 >>11729187 Evidently, yes

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 13:27:32 2020 No.11730474 >>11730458 >filename Wrong.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 13:53:23 2020 No.11730546 >>11730474 Who cares weeb

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 13:55:25 2020 No.11730551 ACTUAL NEW THREAD >>11730549 >>11730549 >>11730549

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 14:25:41 2020 No.11730655 File: 428 KB, 500x840, FURRIES_FURRIES_FURRIES.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >GUYS STOP POSTING ANIME >SERIOUSLY STOP POSTING ANIME >DID I REMIND EVERYONE TO NOT POST ANIME YET? >REMINDER: DONT POST ANIME

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 14:39:06 2020 No.11730711 File: 20 KB, 480x360, hqdefault (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11730655 >t: pic related

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 14:57:08 2020 No.11730821 File: 47 KB, 540x488, 1562778349429.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >sn4 fucking exploded

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 19:09:53 2020 No.11731909 >>11729112 Fuck it I am down. About to get my physics degree.

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