Thoughts on Academic Integrity in Math Courses

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Thoughts on Academic Integrity in Math Courses Anonymous Thu Apr 30 16:51:52 2020 No.11621647 [Reply] [Original]

There's currently a shitshow in the Rutgers University community and the story goes a little like this:
>Final Exam for Math 135, an introductory calculus course
>Since students are taking classes at home, they take the test online
>Students end up using Chegg to share answers
>Professor finds out
>126 students caught and are being reported to academic integrity office
>Subreddit is an absolute shitshow
>The course professor posts in the subreddit (pic related), EVEN MAKING HIS OWN HATE THREAD for people salty at him.
Was does /sci/ think? Is cheating excusable just because it's a pandemic? Of all classes, why cheat in a freshman math class?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 16:53:51 2020 No.11621654 >>11621647 >using an online website that can easily be googled by just inputting the question word for word >instead of just collaborating in a group chat and sourcing their answers collectively yeah, they deserved it for being retarded

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 16:53:52 2020 No.11621655 >cheating in an introductory calculus course holy fucking shit sometimes I forget just how absolutely fucking retarded the average person is

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 16:56:50 2020 No.11621672 >>11621647 That guy is bringing more shame to the university by posting that garbage on Reddit. I can't believe a professor wrote what looks like a post from 4chan, cursing included

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 16:58:22 2020 No.11621677 Link those threads you're talking about

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:00:26 2020 No.11621684 >>11621647 What a tone-deaf retard. The irony is well beyond his reach.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:06:18 2020 No.11621703

>>11621677
The screencap is a comment from this thread
https://www.reddit.com/r/rutgers/comments/g9f57x/126_of_us_are_caught/

Here's the hate thread he made for himself
https://www.reddit.com/r/rutgers/comments/gb073q/dr_g_hate_megathread/

The subreddit is filled with other posts too
https://www.reddit.com/r/rutgers/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:10:21 2020 No.11621719 >>11621647 This guy just sounds butthurt that nobody likes his precious class.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:22:20 2020 No.11621769

>>11621647
Since it's calc 1, there's probably a lot of students who this is the only math class they have to take. Fuck them who cares if brainlets cheat.
For STEM majors though they really shot themselves in the foot. They deserve to get their wrist slapped. Most were probably Arab/Indian/Chinese international students and women, so good I fucking hate cheaters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:25:15 2020 No.11621785 >>11621769 >Arab/Indian/Chinese international students and women >everyone I hate reeeeee Indian / Chinese - American students are generally the people who top the boards and go to your honors events lmao. Try cheating on the Putnam lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:28:24 2020 No.11621796 Post is obviously by a troll memeposting as the professor keks

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:29:09 2020 No.11621800 >>11621647 Based. I hope more people than the 126 retards cheated (must have been fucking retarded to get caught) and get away with it. Fuck universities, fuck professors, and fuck students.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:31:25 2020 No.11621808

>>11621703
I once got out of a midterm with a doctor's note (had a cyst right on my fucking ass and had it cut/drained) and when the answer key came out I realized I just got the exact same questions
I could've cheated by asking a friend what was on the test (I took it the next day) but I had no friends
Based?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:31:39 2020 No.11621809 >>11621703 What does the redd*tor mean by "make the class NC"?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:33:24 2020 No.11621818 >Am I asking for sympathy? No self-righteous moralfag in denial

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:33:50 2020 No.11621822 >>11621703 >made for himself ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:37:00 2020 No.11621832 >>11621647 I don't know what's worse, cheating in an online test and not getting away with it, or being in a position to benefit from cheating in the first place, after spending a month of quarantine at home.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:39:38 2020 No.11621840

>>11621809
no credit
almost every school is putting out options to have all or some classes go pass or no credit instead of a grade for GPA calculation. Rutgers has this, but they specifically warn at the repercussions at what a grad committee might say.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:44:07 2020 No.11621854 >>11621840 Is this identical to "pass/fail" and if not, what is the difference? >grad committee Is this a committee that decides whether to accept an applicant to a grad school program?

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:46:03 2020 No.11621864

>>11621854
>Is this identical to "pass/fail" and if not, what is the difference?
yes. There is an option that when after grades come out, you can choose to instead have them assessed as pass/fail. I believe a grade of D or above is a pass while obviously F is failure.
>Is this a committee that decides whether to accept an applicant to a grad school program?
Yes.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:47:18 2020 No.11621866

>>11621840
>>11621854
>>11621864
Oh, I want to add that this pass/fail system is only implemented for this semester due to the unexpected changes with covid. Rutgers, as far as I am aware, only allows students to change a class to pass/fail only once in their academic career, and only 1.5 months before the final is administered.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:53:09 2020 No.11621896 >>11621822 Dr. G the professor made a thread called "Dr. G hate thread" for himself. Look at the usernames.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 18:03:44 2020 No.11621930

>>11621647
freshmen need to cheat because most of them are dumb and are supposed to get filtered out. what an absolute shitshow though. 126 seething retards who couldn't even cheat right trying to make excuses and get sympathy, a vindictive, unprofessional professor, and its all going down on public channels.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 18:12:32 2020 No.11621962 Incredibly based. Those cheaters should be industry blacklisted. The punishment needs to be severe enough to make cheating never the optimal play. Otherwise the system is just too exploitable and there's no rational incentive for anyone to be legit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 18:16:35 2020 No.11621973 >>11621785 Cope harder Chang

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 18:29:40 2020 No.11622008 >>11621973 I'm not asian

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 18:35:33 2020 No.11622026
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Imagine being so retarded that you have to cheat to pass an introductory calculus class for non-mathematics majors. Then imagine how fucking entitled you have to be to think rules about cheating shouldn't have to apply to you because you don't like math or won't use it often.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 18:37:15 2020 No.11622031 >>11622026 muh rules muh degrees muh completely irrelevant classes

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 18:41:31 2020 No.11622051

>>11622031
The world needs a brainlet filter though. It's the service that University provides to society. Otherwise employers can't possibly screen out candidates fairly and everything just goes to nepotism or random selection.
In order for a meritocracy to work you need a way of assessing people's merit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 18:45:15 2020 No.11622067 >>11621647 Do most people who have to take this class need introductory calculus? If not his work really does mean nothing to students and what he teaches isn't worth learning

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 18:47:44 2020 No.11622075 based prof. brainlets and cheaters mad

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 18:49:38 2020 No.11622080 >>11622051 >want job unrelated to math >take calculus to get a worthless piece of paper saying you passed calculus so you can get your art professor job ok

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 18:50:40 2020 No.11622083 >>11622051 >service that university provides to society >implying university doesn't just leech money out of society >implying brainlets can't pass university brainlet

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 18:53:58 2020 No.11622091 >>11621647 That teacher sounds like a complete tardoid. "criminal enterprise". Lol, whats a retardate.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 18:56:02 2020 No.11622094 http://policies.rutgers.edu/60112-currentpdf Applies to students and faculty. Neither side are complying with above.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 18:59:58 2020 No.11622110 >>11622008 India is part of Asia, Muhammad

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 19:14:49 2020 No.11622160 >>11622080 When you own a university you can hire people who can't pass a single semester of calculus to represent your institution.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 19:23:18 2020 No.11622195
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How is cheating punished in the US? I assume you're banned from academia forever, but is there stuff like fines and/or jail time? I'm guessing not since it's not publicly funded, but what about stuff like grants or stipends? I assume you have to pay those back.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 19:24:45 2020 No.11622197 >>11622094 >atypical hereditary cellular or blood trait >protected group fucking kek

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 19:41:45 2020 No.11622256

>>11622051
Universities are pointless unless you are becoming a:
>doctor
>lawyer
>accountant
>programmer
>engineering
>teacher
>professor
If you didn't study one of these things, there's a high likelihood your college experience was a complete waste of time and your "brainlet filter" concept is a huge cope. Employeers don't care about your college education. You could have used those 4 years actually building a resume, making money in a workforce, getting ahead of your competition. Don't encourage intelligent people online to follow in your footsteps.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 19:56:44 2020 No.11622280

>>11622195
grants and financial aid typically have a "satisfactory academic progress" clause where you have to take a certain amount of units and get passing grades in them, otherwise you have to pay them back. Punishment varies from university to university, but typically it's something like
>first offense: automatic zero on the exam, if not an F in the class
>second offense: expelled and put on an academic shitlist for one or two years that prevents you from enrolling in any university
Of course it's worse if you're the mastermind behind a giant for-profit cheating ring or something, rather than just sneaking answers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 19:57:39 2020 No.11622284 >>11622280 That seems like a weak punishment for a "first offense". Is cheating a large problem in the US?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 19:58:39 2020 No.11622286 >>11622080 if you can’t pass intro calc you’re unironically subhuman and not qualified for any job more advanced than digging ditches

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 19:59:42 2020 No.11622289 >>11622284 Yes. It happens all the time in every class

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 20:00:21 2020 No.11622291

Cheating/plagiarism/falsifying results was a great way to get an instant unit fail in my classes at uni.

>People who do these are retards. It’s an open note exam: we have access to our textbook, lecture notes, notes shared in the common Canvas class; but these retards prefer to send the questions Chegg
Nice. I have no sympathy for the students even if their prof is a dickhead online.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 20:04:28 2020 No.11622300 >>11621647 >students using chegg >teachers caught Fucking idiots. Learn to use a private chat instead of facing the risk of getting identified by a fucking teacher. Also someone should dox the teacher on the hate thread just as a fucking kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 20:04:53 2020 No.11622301 >>11622289 Unfortunate. >>11622291 Where I'm from, cheating nets you a fine, as well as a life-time ban from all of academia. On the other hand uni is state funded, and the government generally isn't too happy about getting its money stolen.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 20:57:41 2020 No.11622438 lmao which one of you guys was this https://www.reddit.com/r/rutgers/comments/gb4y67/dr_g_is_based/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:01:15 2020 No.11622449 there's no way to prevent cheating if you give online exams. obviously.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:01:41 2020 No.11622451 File: 89 KB, 1024x958, Based2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11622438 Dr. G is based

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:08:15 2020 No.11622463 >>11622256 You listed basically everything people go to college for, especially if you count scientists under professor.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:11:23 2020 No.11622475 >>11622463 I probably shouldn't have included teacher or professor, because academia is a scam, and teachers are poor.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:13:38 2020 No.11622481 https://www.reddit.com/r/rutgers/comments/gb4g9x/dr_g_love_thread/ >that user name lmfao

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:15:41 2020 No.11622489 >>11622475 Do you think nuclear engineers should be trained on the job? Should all medical research be done by pharmaceutical companies?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:19:54 2020 No.11622500 >>11622481 alright who here made this account

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:27:38 2020 No.11622530 Imagine cheating in a calculus class. Not even analysis. Calculus.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:30:57 2020 No.11622539

>>11622489
Engineering was included on the list. And going into hard science is objectively a bad career choice if you like money. Pharmaceutical companies work internationally and prefer cheap labor over quality. Most pharmaceutical studies are long term and requiring repeated trials, so it would make sense for them to employ quantity over quality when it comes to scientists.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:32:48 2020 No.11622544 >>11621647 this guy seems like a pussy but also LUL at brainlets who needed to cheat at calc1

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:37:06 2020 No.11622555 >>11622539 So academia is a scam but it's still necessary?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:38:59 2020 No.11622560 >>11622555 Academia should have 1/10 the number of students it currently does. Like it did in the past. It makes no sense for the vast majority of people to attend Universities. Yes academia is a scam

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:41:55 2020 No.11622574 >>11621647 How about the other exams where they would use proctoru? I heard a bunch of people got butthurt after they were flagged for cheating by an AI

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:43:22 2020 No.11622580 >>11622560 What would you have those people do instead? Are you in favor of returning to a manufacturing-based economy or do you want to hire information workers out of high school and train them on the job?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:44:44 2020 No.11622586 >>11622560 I think outright saying that academia is a scam is inaccurate. I'll grant you that most of it is, but it indeed has its place in an ideal world.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:45:15 2020 No.11622590 >test averages go up at least one standard deviation after corona >I am competing against the other students Why shouldn't I start cheating?

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:48:10 2020 No.11622604

>>11622580
Almost anyone that went to college will tell you the vast majority of their education is not helpful in their day-to-day career. How is that a useful system, where you spend 4 years or more learning skills that aren’t helpful. Obviously there’s a better way for employers to select for talent and for people to learn relevant skill. The academic system is designed to make money, it is not designed for efficiency.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:55:29 2020 No.11622633

>>11621647
>Cheating on an open internet test
Pretty dumb but I guarantee most of those kids will be done with math classes after calc, that professor is an incredible faggot for taking that much zeal in catching everyone. Sounds like he isn't handling the transition very well desu

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:56:26 2020 No.11622636

>>11621647
What a faggot, making drama out of a situation that he probably should have expected since going online. The problem could have been cut down easily:
>make the class pass/fail and disregard the grading curve
>add a strict time limit to the exam
>hold smaller proctored sessions where the students have to point cameras at their dicks or something

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 22:02:53 2020 No.11622660 these retards don't know what wolfram alpha is

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 22:08:35 2020 No.11622674 >>11621647 How can you even tell for a calc exam if someone cheated? The right answer should be exactly the same?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 22:10:56 2020 No.11622678 >>11621647 The cursing is just inappropriate as an instructor with the university, if that is actually him.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 22:14:25 2020 No.11622687 >>11622604 University used to be about intellectual development for the students attending, before it became vocational school for everyone because "not having access is oppression" or something.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 22:26:40 2020 No.11622716 People who cheat are absolutely pathetic. When it happens here at my school, the iron first slams down and the cheaters are shown no mercy. Not even during a pandemic. Imagine paying out the ass for a fake degree.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 22:28:54 2020 No.11622728

>>11622604
The academic system is designed to serve and train academics. It has been coopted by engineering """"professions"""" as a glorified trade school diploma mill. Go to any proper department in a university like the math, physics, or music department and you'll understand the true purpose a university may serve.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 22:29:57 2020 No.11622729 >>11622633 Why shouldn't he take joy in the defeat and anxiety of those who have actively undermined his effort? Sounds to me like a reason to celebrate.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 22:44:34 2020 No.11622778 >>11621647 Based. If you decide to cheat then you better be ready not to get caught.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 22:48:49 2020 No.11622786 >>11622674 this is exactly what I am wondering. How is it possible to be caught cheating?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 22:49:09 2020 No.11622787 Imagine not even putting in 5 seconds of effort into your cheating.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 22:52:52 2020 No.11622796

>>11621647
Calculus is the most useless class you can possibly take in at a university.
Any more basic math class will actually have practical applications (like understanding compound interest or something). Harder math classes would actually be relevant to physics or engineering.
Calc I is in the sweet spot of uselessness, I do kek at idiots that can't even pass it

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 23:06:37 2020 No.11622844 >>11622786 >>11622674 Not 100% about this but there might've been a really hard question and those who got caught put the same answer because it was on Chegg.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 23:15:03 2020 No.11622879 >>11621647 That's based and redpilled.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 23:17:25 2020 No.11622888 >>11622195 When we caught people cheating at my UC in general chemistry courses, we never did anything worse than give them a zero on the assignment so long as they fessed up when caught.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 23:24:30 2020 No.11622920 >>11622195 Depends on the context. For a gen-ed you might just have to write a note saying sorry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 23:28:50 2020 No.11622938 >>11622912 absolutely based

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 23:30:13 2020 No.11622942 >>11622912 That's pretty funny, this loser takes his job way too seriously though

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 23:37:41 2020 No.11622959 >>11621719 definitely acts as if the university is their holy sanctuary.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 23:40:55 2020 No.11622966 >>11621647 I don't get it, is there something about reddit that forces you to talk like a fag?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 23:41:28 2020 No.11622970 >>11622912 Can anyone find out the question? I'm sure /sci/ would like to make threads about it every single fucking day like balls in a box or .999999 = 1

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 23:44:42 2020 No.11622979 >>11622942 t. had to cheat to get even modest grades

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 23:53:45 2020 No.11623002 >>11622970 This, let's see it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 23:54:47 2020 No.11623004 >>11622912 imagine being so obsessed with cheaters/your job that you spend a whole night creating a trap to catch people struggling in your class

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 23:59:30 2020 No.11623011 >>11623004 cope

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 00:00:39 2020 No.11623014 >>11623004 It was probably fun to make the trap.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 00:26:17 2020 No.11623088 >>11623014 Based

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 00:31:38 2020 No.11623103 >>11622912 So... he put an impossible question in the exam that non-cheaters will waste time trying to answer, destroying their confidence for the rest of the exam? Based.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 00:37:38 2020 No.11623119 >>11623103 Exam-taking 101: Skip it and come back later if there's time.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 00:45:59 2020 No.11623139 >>11621647 >>The course professor posts in the subreddit (pic related), EVEN MAKING HIS OWN HATE THREAD for people salty at him. What a chad.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 00:47:21 2020 No.11623145 >>11622912 based and g-pilled.

Anonymous Fri May 1 00:49:27 2020 No.11623150

>>11623119
Except that your inability to answer a supposedly basic calculus problem eats away at you for the rest of the test. You go back to it and spend more time than the other questions combined trying to solve it. Sweat pours down your back as you wonder "do I really understand the material? Did I do the other questions correctly?" As the exam comes to a close, you solve one last calculus problem: velocity of a body falling from the 5th floor of a dormitory window.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 00:53:01 2020 No.11623160 >>11623150 >As the exam comes to a close, you solve one last calculus problem: velocity of a body falling from the 5th floor of a dormitory window. lel

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Anonymous Fri May 1 01:18:11 2020 No.11623222

>>11621647
It’s not a secret that people cheat. The problem is retards who cheat. If you’re going to be that stupid to get caught cheating in an intro calc class then you deserve whatever comes your way. Granted, the professor is being autistic in getting horny at the thought of failing his students. Does he not realize that these are exceptional circumstances we live in? Did he accommodate for this or continue with the same type of workload? If he did the latter, then he should put 2 and 2 together and see why people cheated. If he did the former, then I have no sympathy for the retards who got caught. Moral of the story, don’t be retarded and get caught. Everyone cheats.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 02:23:00 2020 No.11623398 I never cheated in any exam. Did I play going to university wrong?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 02:52:14 2020 No.11623475 >>11623150 Kek

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 03:08:54 2020 No.11623511 >>11623222 >Does he not realize that these are exceptional circumstances we live in? That's what grade curves are for. It doesn't excuse cheating.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 03:39:36 2020 No.11623577 >>11622674 >one of the answers is wrong >100+ people get it wrong in the exact same way >some integral has a neat substitution shortcut that saves time >100+ people use the exact same substitution really isn't that difficult to imagine

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 03:41:29 2020 No.11623583 >>11621647 >Students end up using Chegg to share answers Holy shit, those retards deserved to get caught. Not only are they retarded enough to be overt, but they paid money to cheat!

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 05:57:04 2020 No.11623815 >>11623150 kek

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 06:01:20 2020 No.11623824 >>11623004 Sounds fun, I’d do it for free

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 06:32:27 2020 No.11623897 >>11623222 >Does he not realize that these are exceptional circumstances we live in? I'm amazed at at of the different excuses people come up with for cheating the moment someone starts punishing cheaters.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 06:33:48 2020 No.11623903 File: 287 KB, 1598x1597, bruh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If this nigga so good at Math why can't he count calories?

Anonymous Fri May 1 07:42:57 2020 No.11624042

>>11621647
Based as fuck professor
>Waaah I had to learn at home I should be allowed to cheat
Pathetic. I'd understand wanting a lenient mark scheme, but if you're gunna cheat then what's the point of examining and grading?

The uni should give them each an extremely tough viva to beg for their pass or possibly prove their worth

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 07:44:55 2020 No.11624049 >>11621647 Who else here goes to a uni that is so rigorous and difficult that profs don't give a fuck because not even cheating will save you if you're a brainlet?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 07:45:45 2020 No.11624053 >>11623150 So, cheating saves lives?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 07:46:25 2020 No.11624054 >>11622438 >Based on what kek

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 07:50:50 2020 No.11624067 >>11624053 Dr. G is a murderer

Anonymous Fri May 1 07:56:47 2020 No.11624083

>>11621647
Someone should remind the professor that not everything is black or white.
Hell I quit academia (as in i got my degree and got out)because there were so many cheaters that is impossible to fight them all.
The system is broken and only these unusual circumstances like quarantine will shed a better light on it and things become apparent.
its just is what it is

Also cheaters are the scum of the earth and should be hanged and sliced open with a dull knife

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 08:00:31 2020 No.11624092 >>11624083 to any alphabet agents reading this its a joke relax

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 08:03:58 2020 No.11624096 >>11621655 this

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 08:21:47 2020 No.11624119 File: 214 KB, 406x328, fuwalu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11621647 https://i.imgur.com/6h7QJbH.jpg not going to post the image here because it is ban on sight

Anonymous Fri May 1 08:29:25 2020 No.11624141

These guys were retards. Prof is a retard too.
Cheater reporting in. Pretty low grade stuff, having key points and formulae written painstakingly small, ( in code so it appears to be gibberish ) on articles taken into exam. I guess enough to elevate grade by maybe 20 to 30%. Also plagiarized the living hell out for material in assignments. Careful to constantly reword, add deliberate mistakes, make spelling errors, but still massively faster than creating original work. Passed a few papers without even needing to take final exam due to assignments comprising most of the grade.

Reasoning? Time. I had to work to support University study. I just couldn't make it through the course material. Not enough hours in the day. So I smartened up. Cynicism. Much of the content was rote memorization. I do not consider that a true test of my intelligence or ability. I am not going to score less than John and Jane, who dont have to work and therefore have many more hours to memorize some formulae or Latin names. Too much rides on exams which test your knowledge on a tiny fraction of the content. You happen to not study that part very well and you can go from a potential A down to a C. Its too random. Fuck that, I will make it less random, thanks. Pragmatism. I dont know you. I dont know most of the other students. They are not my friends. This is a competitive field. I am paying through the nose for this education. A fair playing field? Fuck that. You got to be rich to think like that. I will do what I can to win, cheating including. At the end of the day being the next Einstein is a nerd's moon shot, its getting the job that counts. Finally, its mostly bullshit anyway. I'd say a good half of material I was required to learn was useless. Some papers required were not even vaguely relevant. Waste my time and money with bullshit? Fine, I will cheat my way through them.

I got my job, pays well. I do very well at it because I learned the material that was relevant. Happy days.

Anonymous Fri May 1 08:48:17 2020 No.11624195

>>11624141
Just wanted to add: My utter contempt and disdain for academia. I went there expecting to find bright minds, creative thinkers, people who loved their subject and who exercised great mental effort into advancing their field of interest.
Yeah, that's honestly what I expected. I also thought the Profs would be learned people, sharply inquiring minds, great intellectuals. People who would bring out your potential with years of experience to deliver the very best learning experience. Just fucking hilarious I thought that. What a fucking joke. For the most part I found quite the opposite, mentally sloven, bureaucratic intellects. Uninspiring. Not creative. Lazy. The vast majority of the students were just the same. Dull and unimaginative. Be its the arts or sciences. Sure there were a few exceptions. A couple of people I admired and respected. But they were rarities, small islands in a ocean of mediocrity.

Anonymous Fri May 1 09:21:31 2020 No.11624266

>>11624083
Cheaters aren't even the problem. They accept mediocrity, so they don't pose any threat if you want to make it.
The real problem in academia are the faggots who will suck the entire faculty's dick to get ahead. And the faculty who let it happen.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 10:02:33 2020 No.11624362 >>11624195 r/iamverysmart

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 10:04:48 2020 No.11624366 File: 30 KB, 923x137, 911.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this is so traumatic you guys

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 10:20:56 2020 No.11624413 >>11621647 I have so little faith in academia that I don't care academia has become a breeding ground for left-wing terrorists and insane feminists

Anonymous Fri May 1 10:24:05 2020 No.11624420

>>11624083
This. When I was a TA there were so many cheaters and our math department was basically told not to go after them. 90% of them were Chinese. It's sad to see to be honest, because hard working honest people get fucked over by cheaters because they move the curve.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 10:44:57 2020 No.11624475 >>11623004 lol cheating is not struggling. cheating is taking the easy way out.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 11:01:40 2020 No.11624507 >>11624083 A dull knife? Why not a spoon?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 11:03:53 2020 No.11624515 >>11624366 >NOOOOOOOOOOO WHY WON'T THE PROFESSOR LET ME TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PANDEMIC AND CHEAT UNPUNISHED AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Glad to see this downvoted.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 11:14:28 2020 No.11624547 >>11624366 >most mentally traumatizing since 9/11. doubt this person was old enough to walk during 9/11 much less remember how "traumatizing" it was.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 11:30:41 2020 No.11624608 this is actually cringe, american universities on reddit which the professors participate in?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 11:33:52 2020 No.11624617 File: 50 KB, 893x205, edge.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 11:36:01 2020 No.11624624 >>11624608 professors are people too most larger unis have their own probably unofficial board on reddit

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 11:52:31 2020 No.11624688 >>11624617 t. someone who got caught cheating on that test

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 12:02:26 2020 No.11624728 >>11622530 The average zoomer cannot comprehend working fairly on an assignment and getting docked points when they answer correctly

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 12:03:54 2020 No.11624739 >>11624728 incorrectly lel, they copy from chegg and its wrong

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 12:14:26 2020 No.11624798 >>11621647 Cheating should be allowed, but all the exams should be videotaped. And the assorted pieces of an employee misbehaving should be attached to the diploma with the context of what was the subject (because some subjects are irrelevant)

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 12:22:48 2020 No.11624836 >>11624617 lol

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 12:30:06 2020 No.11624871 >>11623511 >>11623897 Did you retards read literally the line after that? I said if he accommodated for the abrupt change to online classes, and that if he did then the cheating wasn’t justified.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 12:40:49 2020 No.11624926 File: 131 KB, 903x488, panic.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I for one am glad calculus is gatekeeping people who have no business working in disciplines where mixing up an order of magnitude could be fatal (like nurses).

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 13:04:54 2020 No.11625010 >>11624617 >youngboiswag

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 13:47:40 2020 No.11625179 >>11624366 >no you cant just be man of principle

Anonymous Fri May 1 13:50:57 2020 No.11625189

>>11623150
Excellent post even if I disagree with the premise. If your exams are so easy that you don't get stuck on, have to return to, and then juggle between multiple problems, your test is piss easy. The best exams are the ones that force you to think a few times.
Not that such a thing is possible for calculus.

Anonymous Fri May 1 13:53:57 2020 No.11625204

cheating is okay in math. if a professor is asking you questions, you answer them correctly, that is how you learn. You learn nothing if you answer incorrectly. I had a calculus professor ask a question about how many bricks are in the great pyramid and i cheated on the question by googling it and came from chegg. Make up ur own questions if you want legitimacy and originality. Also i had a statistics teacher with a shit latin american accent fuck his english up so hard, that all of the questions would have errors. I am a genius, everyone can fuck off asking me questions when i can google them and become right.

Anonymous Fri May 1 13:54:27 2020 No.11625205

>>11623222
Checked, but most schools are coming up with so so so many resources to accommodate for the circumstances. As someone who is choosing not to use many of those, I have no ill will toward those who do. But I certainly have a problem with people who think they can get away with NOT using those resources (say, deciding to take a letter grade instead of a pass/fail) and who cheat in place of that. And if you're going pass/fail what reason is there to cheat? I get that this doesn't work for something like organic chemistry, where premeds need a certain grade, but for intro calc it's a different story.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 13:55:20 2020 No.11625210 >>11624926 LMAOOOO the calc 1 proffessor is terrorizing mathematical retards haha nice find anon

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 13:56:44 2020 No.11625217 >>11624141 >>11624195 let me guess, business and marketing major

Anonymous Fri May 1 13:57:49 2020 No.11625224

>>11623398

They didn't really cheat. Looking up solutions to a problem online isn't "cheating". You could as well just exchnage your homework with others in real life.
It's even encouraged under "Muh groupwork". ALso people study with past and old exams, that is, if you are smart. That is absolutely not cheating.
You know whats fucking retarded? Using the same questions all the time and then chimping out when you realize people see through it.

There's a reason why he is so mad, and it's not because people cheated. It's because he thought people wouldn't realize he was a lazy douchebag reusing the same question.
Essentially he is doing the thing that liars do when they get caught, and accuse you of lying to avoid embarrassment.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 13:59:50 2020 No.11625233 >>11624366 >>11624617 >>11624926 These are your average Rutgers students. This is why I didn't take that full fucking ride, mom.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 14:00:07 2020 No.11625235 File: 100 KB, 670x632, 95CC4D5D-73E8-4039-8458-8F4387767189.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11625224 >They didn't really cheat. Looking up solutions to a problem online isn't "cheating".

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 14:01:21 2020 No.11625237 >>11625210 Dr. G is an American Hero

Anonymous Fri May 1 14:03:27 2020 No.11625249

>>11625237

If getting bullied online by some 18 yr old kids is being a hero , then yea. And if having to reuse the same math questions every year causing you to have a mental breakout which you caused yourself makes you a hero, then i dont know.

Americans really are so fucking retarded.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 14:09:26 2020 No.11625270 Brooklyn-born lover of all math and science, Pokemon, World of Warcraft, and Dark Souls... and teaching too! =) why are people that "love teaching" always huge assclowns?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 14:12:53 2020 No.11625292 >>11624366 >to ruin 126 kids' lives How much damage does an academic misconduct report actually do? Obviously they'll probably fail the class this time around, but I can't imagine one isolated incident would cause really disastrous consequences.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 14:17:14 2020 No.11625311 >>11625292 Well I know in one of the threads there was a premed kid freaking out and obviously they're fucked since med schools require college transcripts as part of their application.

Anonymous Fri May 1 14:17:57 2020 No.11625316
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Behold "Midtek "Dr. G""

why am i not surprised he has no self control and can't stop stuffing his mouth? this guy has way more serious problems than some kids cheating on an open book test lmao

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 14:21:20 2020 No.11625335 File: 14 KB, 678x181, drg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 14:25:06 2020 No.11625352 >>11625316 It's so weird that he doesn't even post anonymously on Reddit.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 14:30:16 2020 No.11625367 >>11625316 t. was caught

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 14:38:53 2020 No.11625401 >>11621647 they all had it coming, cheaters would be automatically expelled and/or executed if it was my university

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 14:40:42 2020 No.11625407 >>11621785 he said international students, they do seem to be the ones to cheat the most at my uni too. of course they have to pay more to go here so it makes sense that they will do anything to pass but still shitty

Anonymous Fri May 1 14:53:23 2020 No.11625457

>>11625352
> Brooklyn-born lover of all math and science, Pokemon, World of Warcraft, and Dark Souls... and teaching too! =)

imagine having to deal with this absolute manchild in real life
he's the type of kid that goes into a fit of rage after you refuse to be his friend because he creeps you the fuck out
and also because he's ridiculously fat

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 14:53:47 2020 No.11625458 >>11623903 But is he good at math?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 14:54:53 2020 No.11625464 >>11621655 this

Anonymous Fri May 1 14:57:52 2020 No.11625472

>>11621655
The whole situation is kind of surreal, honestly. It's not just cheating in a calculus course, it's like half the class cheating in a calculus course with the SAME FUCKING WEBSITE. It's not just one mind-bogglingly stupid person, it's a majority of them

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 14:58:36 2020 No.11625476 >>11625472 Stupid people outfuck smart people - News at 9.

Anonymous Fri May 1 14:59:01 2020 No.11625477

>>11625458

for the amount of online postering he does, not really, he has exactly one published work and it's not anything spectacular

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1707.01260

he is obviously mentally not sound though , although not in the "wow hes a crazy genius" , just in the "wow that guy is kind of sad it's like he has nothing going for him at all" way

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:02:14 2020 No.11625486

>>11625472

it's not surreal, the prof is mad that he got caught, he probably expected the kids to be smarter and not outright cheat 100% of the exam. then he realized that they are actually retarded and it made him look very bad
so he chimped out on himself before his superiors could
anyway i don't trust fat people , and neither should anybody else, being fat or having been fat means you are mentally deficient and combine the worst personality traits

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:02:50 2020 No.11625491 >>11625486 >it's not surreal, the prof is mad that he got caught ...what?

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:05:55 2020 No.11625505

>>11625491

he made the exam in such a way that you would be at a disadvantage if you didn't cheat , he reused the same questions
the point of an exam isn't so the student has to guess or play some psychological game with the other students whether the others are cheating or not it's the profs job to control that they aren't

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:06:29 2020 No.11625510 >>11625477 just dont cheat next time bro, no need to cope through the whole thread

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:08:36 2020 No.11625516 >>11625510 Regardless whether the guy cheated or not the professor is still worthless for chimping out online

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:08:50 2020 No.11625518 >>11625505 >he made the exam in such a way that you would be at a disadvantage if you didn't cheat exams are not a competition. other people doing well does not mean that you do worse.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:08:54 2020 No.11625519 >>11625510 hey guadagni, why don't you publish something relevant other than huge cringe posts on leddit? why can't you put down your fork btw? MUH JUSTICE for your body kek

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:10:40 2020 No.11625527 >>11625316 Jolie Olie?

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:10:42 2020 No.11625529

>>11625518

exams are almost always curved and even if they aren't you having a bad grade in a course where others have a good grade can make you look very bad especially if your future employer/unviersity knows about these courses (if they are notoriously inflated or difficult)
anyway check out that fat fucks post history, it's like posting cringey shit and being a subpar math teacher is all he has going for him
god i hate americans so fucking much

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:11:34 2020 No.11625532 >>11624366 >>11624617 >>11624926 kek what fucking losers. god forbid they actually do their own work. this is how most universities should be but most are basically at no child left behind tier at this point

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:12:06 2020 No.11625535 File: 6 KB, 200x210, 1485823682862.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11625316 where are people even getting this greasy fat neckbeard pic of him? the official pic on his uni page looks completely different

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:13:53 2020 No.11625542 >>11625516 he is shitty for being a redditor, but based for fucking over cheaters >>11625519 why dont you just study next time

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:15:53 2020 No.11625550

>>11625542

there is no point in studying for an exam that is held under unfair conditions
im not at a university to play mindgames or psychogames
either its an exam under fair conditions or not , then just don't have the exam at all and postpone it
like holy shit , it's not so difficult to understand

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:16:00 2020 No.11625551 >>11625529 no employer cares that you got a low grade on one calculus class you fucking retard

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:17:27 2020 No.11625554

>>11625529
>exams are almost always curved
How is this an argument? If the exam is curved and you do worse than the cheaters, then this will DAMPEN the effect, because your lower grade will get bumped up by the curve.
>having a bad grade in a course where others have a good grade can make you look very bad especially if your future employer/unviersity knows about these courses (if they are notoriously inflated or difficult)
your employer cannot see other peoples' grades in that course section, and again, if the course is notoriously hard, you're not going to look bad for having a mediocre grade in it.
So your position is that Stacy McHR at the engineering firm knows that calculus 1 at Rutgers is a notoriously grade-inflated course, and thinks less of you for getting a suboptimal grade in it 4 years ago. I don't think this is a plausible scenario.

You're literally arguing against yourself in half these points.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:17:56 2020 No.11625556 >>11625551 med school does , other than that, don't give out a fucking take home exam you fat loser it puts honest students into a situation where they have to cheat

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:18:50 2020 No.11625558

>>11625550
and how is it unfair? it seems like most that used the unfair advantage got kicked out, and also do you have any proof it was even curved at all? anyways if there are answers out there that someone could do then why cant a person taking the class do those problems? it is just an intro calculus class, not rocket science

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:20:35 2020 No.11625562 >>11625535 https://sas.rutgers.edu/news-a-events/news/newsroom/achievements/2823-2019-awards-for-distinguished-contributions-to-undergraduate-education

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:21:22 2020 No.11625563

>>11625554

the problem aren't the people that blatantly cheat, its the people that subtely cheat, like change 1-2 questions so they get a high score but not an insanely high score
if these kids weren't fucking retarded, thats what would have happened, good luck finding out who cheated if people do this and then seperating them from the "Honest ones"
med schools know exactly which courses are how difficult , and most universities also know how difficult the curricula of other universities are i.e. if you pass undergrad math at MIT with a bad average its not the same as passing the same at Rutgers (lol)
anyway take home exams are fucking retarded, and setting up a trap for "cheaters" is as well , it can ruin your whole exam if you get stuck on a problem, if you teach people well they won't see the need to cheat at all

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:22:48 2020 No.11625571 >>11625556 med school isnt an employer, of course a med school, phd, law school, etc cares about grades and anyone that needs a calc course for their major and also needs to cheat on it is probably not fit for an advanced degree

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:23:50 2020 No.11625578 >>11625535 My guess is he gained weight and the pic you put is outdated. https://sas.rutgers.edu/news-a-events/news/newsroom/achievements/2823-2019-awards-for-distinguished-contributions-to-undergraduate-education

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:24:08 2020 No.11625580 >>11625233 Eh, there’s a huge gap between Rutgers honors students and average students who literally just need calc 1 to get their requirements out of the way. Plenty of bright students and amazing teachers, especially in the math department here

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:24:47 2020 No.11625585 How people are defending cheating is beyond me. No wonder our generation is full of tiktok pricks. We’re never gonna achieve anything great. Fuck this world

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:26:09 2020 No.11625594

>>11625571

you are obviously retarded ; if you go to med school or law school you will never use calc ever again, it's essentially a useless class

anyway, if you don't cheat you will get a worse grade if the class is curved than somebody who is cheating
if you cheat you get "caught" for cheating

its a lose-lose situation created for what? the sensible thing is to make an exam that checks whether you understood the basic material or not and give everybdoy an easy A; then continue with your life

ironically the exam was really easy you can find it on his webpage, you could have also just wolfram alphaed pretty much all of it lol

so im now 100% sure he is just faking his outrage to preserve face

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:26:21 2020 No.11625595

>>11625563
>the problem aren't the people that blatantly cheat, its the people that subtely cheat, like change 1-2 questions so they get a high score but not an insanely high score
again, what's the problem with this? Other people scoring higher than you cannot hurt you. It can only increase your grade by giving you a larger curve effect.
You're fixating on the fact that other people "beat" you at the game when it's not even a game.

Med school isn't going to look at an individual calc course from 4 years ago unless you failed it. They'll care about your average, and 10% on one course has an extremely minimal effect on a 40-course average.
Besides, if you "have" to cheat on a calculus 4 dummies test in order to get an A, you are far too retarded to ever get into med school anyway, so this isn't a relevant discussion either.

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:26:30 2020 No.11625597

>>11625518
>exams are not a competition
Yes they are. The point of Western Academia is to act as a means of transferring wealth from Western taxpayers to the CCP via a complex mechanism that tl;dr the university exists so that the CCP can pay them to train Chinese students in Western science. When they go back to China, it is indeed a competition, and is indeed a competition as certain CCP study-abroad programs do cut the lowest X performing students every Y period as a means of inducing competition.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:27:24 2020 No.11625600 >>11625585 Yeah it is pretty sad. I mean they are online and could just look up equations, theorems, etc to help them but still need to fucking look up the answers

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:28:26 2020 No.11625606 >>11625594 >anyway, if you don't cheat you will get a worse grade if the class is curved than somebody who is cheating Please learn how a curve works before you start seething about them. Curves do not make anybody's grade worse.

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:30:12 2020 No.11625612

>>11625595

grades are largely a game if you have nothing else going for youi, which is true for 99% of all students
if others score higher than you it means you will get a worse grade than them , that's all there is to it , it will make it look like you are worse than somebody when you really aren't
if that same person applies for the same position and only the grades matter, they will come out on top

and yes, ofc averages are important, but there are people at law school and med school recrutation that look explicityl for grades on courses that THEY FIND are hard (for them) and if you f.e. scored well on physics they will be more likely to recommend you (because they think you are high iq)

and once again: you are not cheating because you are too stupid to take the test, you are cheating BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW WHETHER THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE CHEATING OR NOT

that is a situation that a student never should have to deal with at all

i dont go to university to rape my brain in a modified prisoners dilemma all day long just so some fat fuck can wank to some trivial calc questions LMFAO

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:32:13 2020 No.11625616

>>11625594
i never said you would need to use it again, but if you get weeded out of such a low level class you are probably retarded. plenty of people have passed and aced these classes without cheating and if you cant and it loses you admission from med school then maybe you just arent med school material

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:32:59 2020 No.11625621

>>11625612
>if others score higher than you it means you will get a worse grade than them , that's all there is to it , it will make it look like you are worse than somebody when you really aren't
can we just expel all premed shitters
it would improve our universities so much

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:34:27 2020 No.11625632

>>11625616

other people cheating can easily cause you to fail a class , you just don't realize it because people who cheat don't do it so stupidly

and i am in med school and everybody with half a brain understands that studying with old exam questions is the most efficient way to study
so yea, you can fuck off with your self righteousness

either the exams are held fairly for everybody or not at all
trying to turn them into a test of character is not what they are supposed to be

but im not surprised some fat loser who plays pokemon and world of warcraft doesn't understand this

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:35:58 2020 No.11625638 >>11625632 you're not in med school dude a dog could read this thread and tell you're not in med school

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:38:33 2020 No.11625646

>>11625638

but i am? you sound mad lmfao anyway
keep seething and thinking muh exams are a test of your divine spiritual character and what not

i love to see people like you fail the moment they understand that the real world doesn't care about this shit

maybe you can become an overweight math teacher at a third rate university, like rutgers

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:38:58 2020 No.11625648 >>11625632 there is a difference between studying old material (which some professors provide themselves) and copying shit for your exam straight off of chegg. just say you cant keep up and stop coping

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:38:59 2020 No.11625649

>>11625600
it's fucking calculus. CALCULUS. It's not theoretical physics or something. People are cheating on calculus. What the fuck.

These are the same people that are unironically proud that they've read one book in the past 5 years.

We're trying to get to strong AI and put man on Mars. We can't do that if people gleefully cheat on calculus and rage when they get caught.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:40:09 2020 No.11625655 File: 177 KB, 2000x2000, projector.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11625646 >you sound mad lmfao anyway

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:41:42 2020 No.11625661

>>11625649
>11625649▶
>>>11625600
>i

but its not the people who got caught that are raging... its the person that was supposed to ensure that the examination was held in fair conditions (and didn't do that)
and the person that for some reason "set up a trap" (why?)
why set up a trap if you are giving a supposedly fair exam? doesn't that mean the exam was never fair and you EXPECTED people to cheat?

holy shit imagine having to deal with this fat fuck in real life LMAO

>>11625648

there really isnt much of a difference, a lot of courses, especially in higher math and engineering is so difficult that if profs didn't provide older exams and the new exam has similar questions, 100% of the people simply wouldn't pass

its also a reason why usually more difficult topics are held as oral examination because the prof gets way more leeway then and can help students

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:45:34 2020 No.11625678

>>11625661
yes, every exam professors expect people to cheat you dense motherfucker. why do you think they look around the room to see if someone is on their phone or using other shit when in real life exams? also im sure those dumbass cheaters are raging right now kek

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:48:35 2020 No.11625688

>>11625678
> why do you think they supervise every exam
but he didn't do that , he wanted to be MUH PRIVACY HERO and explicitly DIDNT USE any kind of supervision

he wanted to be the good guy fat friend and at the same time wants to be the tough guy teacher with muh integrity , that obviously doesn't work

other than that if you check out the exam, you could answer every single question with wolfram alpha, you don't even need Chegg, except for the one question which was set up as a "trap" , most likely differentiating something that you can't differentiate or something like that

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:48:40 2020 No.11625689 >>11625594 wait you can find it on his webpage? can someone link it here?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:49:10 2020 No.11625691 >>11625661 expecting people to cheat does not mean that the exam was not fair it means that freshmen are retards, and they're GOING to cheat on any exam no matter how fair.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:50:47 2020 No.11625698 >>11625688 what else did you expect from retards that cant even pass an intro calc exam without cheating?

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:51:42 2020 No.11625701

cheating is a double-edged sword. if you don't get caught, good for you. if you do get caught, the price you have to pay is that there is absolutely no "b-but" for you. you fucked up and the teacher can do whatever he wants with you. end of story.
overweight man-child teacher is triggering, but the redditors trying to rationalize the cheating like >>11624366 are way fucking worse.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:51:55 2020 No.11625703 >>11625638 I believe him. Premeds are universally known to be the dumbest, laziest people taking STEM courses at any given university and there’s no reason they’d stop in med school

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:51:58 2020 No.11625704 >>11625594 >if you go to med school you will never use calc ever again, no you will reinvent the trapezoid method in some convoluted way instead

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:52:11 2020 No.11625706 >>11625689 https://sites.math.rutgers.edu/~jg1314/135/exams/s20e1v1.pdf I think this is it. Math 135 exam for spring 2020.

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:52:30 2020 No.11625707

>>11625648
If you copy shit word for word off of chegg you deserve to fail. The point of these shits is not to give you an answer, it's to check your answer when you're done. Also you can use one or two steps but the majority needs to be your own work.
Then again these people are taking calc 1 so of course they can't keep up

Anonymous Fri May 1 15:59:00 2020 No.11625728

>>11625691

if i go to a university and pay for it, im not doing that so i can fry my brain over whether others are cheating or not
i expect the examiners to create an environment at which cheating is nearly impossible , that also holds for old exam questions being used etc.
the whole issue is that this fat fuck issued a take home exam

also im not going to sacrifice my own grade so YOU or some fat fuck can feel better (lol) so yea, if its take home, im going to cheat every single time without any feeling of shame

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 15:59:04 2020 No.11625729 >>11625706 >solve algebraic inequality >calc exam how the fuck are you dumb enough to copy shit off of slader instead of using symbolab or desmos? Desmos literally gives you the fucking answer too

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:00:11 2020 No.11625734 >>11625728 What else can you do instead of a take home exam? Go to school and get sued by somebody who gets the coof? Also, how do you create an environment in which cheating becomes inpossible?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:00:57 2020 No.11625736 >>11625728 >if it was possible for me to cheat in any way then you’re at fault for not stopping me Are you Chinese or Indian?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:03:16 2020 No.11625743 >>11624366 I can't help but wonder if people tried cheating right after 9/11 and tried to make the mental instability because of the circumstances excuse.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:03:21 2020 No.11625744 >>11625728 keep cryin bitch nigga

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:03:39 2020 No.11625746 >>11622912 based

Anonymous Fri May 1 16:04:22 2020 No.11625749

>>11625729
>how the fuck are you dumb enough to copy shit off of slader instead of using symbolab or desmos?
allow me to explain
>Math 135 provides an introduction to calculus. It is taken primarily by students interested in the biological sciences, business, economics, or pharmacy. Math 135 may be followed by Math 136. There is another calculus sequence, Math 151-152-251, which is taken by students in the mathematical and physical sciences, engineering, and computer science.

Anonymous Fri May 1 16:04:57 2020 No.11625751

>>11625734

> dont reuse old exam questions 1:1
> spread old exam questions so not only a few students have them
> set up supervision during the exam

and you can just let the class pass , it's not like people are unwilling to study or take the exam, its that they literally cant due to corona lol

or postpone it if you want to do that , but HE DIDNT WANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE HE DIDNT WANT TO BE THE BAD GUY

if you check what this fat fuck didn't do it becomes apparent why he is raging like the fat chimp he is :
> didn't set up supervision
> take home exam
> gave a piss easy exam with an unsolvable question which can ironically make honest students struggle
> didn't postpone the exam for mUH INTEGRITYY

not only did he not implement any safety measures against cheating, he also implemented a trap for the lulz because he expected people to cheat (lol) which means he should have implemented measures against cheating in the first place

a test is not meant to prove your character, its meant to prove that you have understood the material (or not)

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:06:09 2020 No.11625756 >>11625751 I have to imagine you were actually one of the 126 fuckers who got caught there's no other possible reason to seethe this hard

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:07:47 2020 No.11625758 >>11625756 > if you are discontent with an unfair system you are SEETHING!!! you are a cuck , also lmao at giving you a take home exam and then raging over people cheating (LOL)

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:09:07 2020 No.11625767 >>11622912 >>11625706 Unless I'm blind, it looks like he didn't include the fake question in the posted copy of the exam, sadly the solution manual has solutions to all 14 questions on the test I would've loved to see what the fake question was

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:09:30 2020 No.11625770 >>11625758 plagiarism is cheating even if it is your ("take home") thesis

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:10:20 2020 No.11625772 >>11625758 keep cryin

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:11:48 2020 No.11625776 >>11625751 he said he gave accommodations to anyone that asked for it due to the coronavirus, maybe dont be a bitch and ask for help if you really need it

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:12:26 2020 No.11625777 File: 92 KB, 1000x1000, EIQH190XYAA-U_E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11621800

Anonymous Fri May 1 16:12:28 2020 No.11625779

>>11625770

> im going to be a good guy and let you take the exam home ;)
> also im not going to use any supervision because im a pokemon player and believe in the good of humanity ;)
> the power of friendship compells me to believe that none of you will cheat ;)
> also im going to set up an unsolvable question to make you feel like you are going to fail if you are honest to catch dishonest people ;)
> no you cant cheat im Dr G and i will write thousands of posts on leddit if you undermine my academic integrity =(
> omg you cheated i guess i shouldnt have been a good guy now its time to put my foot down !!!!

i wish i made this up, but this is unironically the plot of this whole thing ; tldr: you are dealing with a mentally unstable manchild

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:12:59 2020 No.11625783 >>11625779 boiling

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:14:18 2020 No.11625788 >>11625767 >I would've loved to see what the fake question was pls somebody find it. don't let me down /sci/

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:14:44 2020 No.11625790 File: 148 KB, 1364x358, MidtektheALPHA.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11625783

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:16:24 2020 No.11625794 >>11625751 >it's not like people are unwilling to study or take the exam, its that they literally cant due to corona lol holy cope. even zoomers can’t actually be this pathetic, right?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:16:40 2020 No.11625796 >>11625779 but many professors might have tough questions and then later add points back or get rid of it if enough people fucked it up. it is also just one question of a 10+ question exam, not a big deal especially if it is curved later

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:17:14 2020 No.11625797 his twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/midtek and OFC he's following a noodlewhore streamer who would have thought "DR G" is a SIMP?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:18:18 2020 No.11625805 >>11625788 This, somebody figure it out

Anonymous Fri May 1 16:18:59 2020 No.11625807

>>11625767
>>11625788
these are two different courses entirely. Dr. G did this for math 135, where there's about 900 students, whereas the other 'unsolvable question' was from another professor entirely, as far as I remember.
Source: rutgers student, far past calculus though

Anonymous Fri May 1 16:19:23 2020 No.11625808

>>11625796

i dont mind tough question on SUPERVISED exams. but this wasn't one. this was essentially a question that tested your character, which isn't what an exam is supposed to be in the first place

im supposed to prove that i know the material, not whether im a "good guy" or a "bad guy" and its not my job to spend my time waging whether cheating or not cheating puts me in a better advantage

CHEATING SHOUDL ALWAYS BE DISCOURAGED and if it isn't then the exam isn't fair and shouldn't be held at all

the reason why he still gave a take home , well he is a WoW player and a pokemon fan

what do you think?

Anonymous Fri May 1 16:20:18 2020 No.11625810
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holy shit this guy is actually seething ITT, at first i thought it was just a retarded troll but now i wouldnt be surprised if he is one of the cheaters. nigga is posting the fat professors profiles as if anyone cares

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:22:15 2020 No.11625817 >>11625808 >the English is slowly deteriorating as he gets angrier jesus it really is a pajeet isn't it

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:22:23 2020 No.11625818 >>11625808 i think you are mentally deranged and based on your posts probably some filthy international student that cheats all the time

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:23:05 2020 No.11625822 >>11625810 Wait so is this Dr G actually arguing in the thread in the past few comments? Please Dr G prove it if you are holy shit lmao. Funnier too that he's roasting this seething cheatard who prob got caught.

Anonymous Fri May 1 16:23:40 2020 No.11625824
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>>11625817
>>11625810
>>11625818

Hey Dr. G. stop simping for a noodlewhore.

> MY EXAM TESTS YOUR INTEGRITY!!!!

all it testesd was whether you are a virgin "Dr." G. and we all know you are one

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:24:31 2020 No.11625826 >>11625824 >replies to two posts 8 seconds apart calling them the same person fuming

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:25:53 2020 No.11625831 >>11625826 > simping for a noodlewhore in WoW in 2020 k

Anonymous Fri May 1 16:27:28 2020 No.11625839
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did a bit more digging around, it seems like the "controversial" exams weren't posted to his website
only exam 1 was posted, and apparently exams 2/3 were where the problems arose

lame

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:30:48 2020 No.11625850 >>11625839 with all this information it really is inexcusable to chear. graphing calculators, plenty of resources, open book, and open note should be good enough for anyone, especially with the 11 hr window to do it

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 16:32:11 2020 No.11625857 >>11625850 cheat* and 12 window*

Anonymous Fri May 1 17:07:55 2020 No.11625978

>>11625189
You don't seem to get it, this is not a hard problem, it's an impossible problem. So no matter your level of actual skill in the course you will fail it. This not only wastes time during the test, it tricks students into thinking they're worse than they actually are.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 17:11:30 2020 No.11625997 File: 51 KB, 600x467, 001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A source with access to the board told me Dr. G was banned from r/Rutgers for 126 days.

Anonymous Fri May 1 17:27:24 2020 No.11626062
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>>11625839
Jfc
>open book
>open note
>not proctored
>past exams with full solutions given
>edited lecture clips with titles hinting at their use
I have zero sympathy for these retards.

Anonymous Fri May 1 17:33:26 2020 No.11626078

>>11625978
This is the only point you could make that's debatably true, but it's impossible to say since we can't see the problem.
If the problem is obviously broken to anybody who even bothered to actually try it at all, then I don't think it tricked anybody innocent. If he put something that was just very subtly off, in a way where you don't realize there's a gotcha until you do 10 minutes of work, then that would make it a scummy way to weed out cheaters.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 17:34:22 2020 No.11626083 >>11621800 checked

Anonymous Fri May 1 17:34:26 2020 No.11626085

meanwhile in CHGN 125 at the Colorado School o' Mines, we had an open-note open-INTERNET exam and the average was like a 71. I got like an ~80 or something like that.
If profs can't make their online exams catered to the testing environment, I have little pity.
Now, that course is way different than calc 1, but the point still stands (no?)

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 17:39:26 2020 No.11626100 >>11621769 >Most were probably Arab/Indian/Chinese international students this

Anonymous Fri May 1 17:49:51 2020 No.11626150
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All the smug faggots in this thread really want you to believe they never shared an answer with a friend before. Actually they probably didn't have friends so that's actually not that unbelievable.

Anonymous Fri May 1 17:57:01 2020 No.11626173

>intro micro econ at community college
>instructor is an ex businessman from sweden/germany
>always boasts about how we should be thanking him for stooping so low as to teach at an american community college
>retarded jocks start opening mocking him and his accent in class
>he is pissed and really lets them get under his skin
>have midterm
>hes sick
>exam is proctored by some TA no one had ever seen before
>the TA hands out the solutions to the exam
>i actually studied some what so i take the test as usual but just use the guide as a way to check what my grade should be ~85%
>people are saying that some students have to take lower grades to make it less suspicious
>tfw he shows us the curved exam results
>almost everyone gave themselves 90% or up
>i get a curved grade of like a C
>he never mentioned what happened
i really wonder if he was trying to set everyone up but realized it was way too fucked up to make a big deal of. or maybe the TA had a vendetta. I wish i knew.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 18:03:19 2020 No.11626196 >>11626150 All the smug faggots in this thread never got caught with their shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 18:12:09 2020 No.11626227 >>11625810 > my prof is fat so cheating is ok I mean, jeez, what's the fuzz all about, just let them pass, it should be all pay2pass not some old fashioned, autistic exams and shit

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 18:15:29 2020 No.11626242 anyone got actual problem for the exam?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 18:19:05 2020 No.11626259 also, it is impossible to prevent cheating during an on-line exam without some advanced techniques

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 18:20:44 2020 No.11626263 > inb4 exam is to impress someone not to actually test your knowledge if you only knew....

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 18:21:39 2020 No.11626266 >>11621973 you are the one coping bc the Asians win all the math competitions and the white kids try to be youtubers and pro fortnite players

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 18:22:51 2020 No.11626270 >>11626266 Ching Chong ping pong. Have another bat and fuck off

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 18:24:35 2020 No.11626280 File: 93 KB, 720x720, 1518289683851.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11626270

Anonymous Fri May 1 18:26:20 2020 No.11626285

>>11621647
I think anybody who sympathizes with the cheaters or thinks Dr G. (cool name) crossed some line or hates him is either a cheater (got what you deserved, bitch AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA) or just doesn't fully appreciate the magnitude of how absofuckinglutely REKT these cheaters got. These babies are fucking SEETHING and were also pretty stupid to begin with. Why would anybody here give a fuck about some entitled lil kid's feewings because "I deserve to be allowed to cheat." That's entitled as fuck. This pandemic whining is a full blown excuse, and honestly, anybody who gets caught cheating, while you have THE ENTIRE FUCKING INTERNET at your disposal should be shoveling shit for a living. The bar was set waaayy too fucking low for these punks, and honestly >>11625749
shows that they are going to be professional piece of shit bullshits with no value in life anyway. These are the types of people who arrogant trash and think they are so great because they study bullshit in college, and are going to go on to be complete pseuds and have an equal say as the rest of us. Welcome to the real world, kiddo. GET CAUGHT? GET FUCKED.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 18:36:19 2020 No.11626312 >>11626259 Dude basic techniques work too

Anonymous Fri May 1 18:59:18 2020 No.11626395

>>11626285
>equal say as the rest of us
Dude, they'll go on to study business, they'll be far higher than any of us here in the pecking order, even if they cheated (cheaters are advantaged in business, they'll probably get in the top schools too) making six figures at the very beginning of their careers

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 19:05:11 2020 No.11626409 >>11626395 >go on to business not all of them >six figures at the beginning of their careers me too.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 19:05:32 2020 No.11626410 >>11626285 you cannot conduct classes online. it's a ridiculous idea that students won't cheat given the opportunity. how is this not obvious?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 19:10:03 2020 No.11626419 >>11621647 They are never going to wide-scale crack down on cheating at Universities because it is a business; why would a University damage it's reputation while simultaneously kicking out it's customers.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 19:13:35 2020 No.11626428 >>11626410 Normal moral people don't feel the urge to thieve and swindle.

Anonymous Fri May 1 19:17:16 2020 No.11626445

>>11626410
It was open book exam with plethora of helps. You can't stop online cheating in the sense you can catch anyone with a brain unless by ridiculous stroke of luck, and even then they have plausible deniability. It's a smart move to allow people to use helps as it gives them less reason to cheat specifically, as either way looking up textbook is allowed while procuring exact answers both requires students to bother with tutors/chegg, and is much more damning that looking up some trig identity you forgot. Now these retards actually went far enough to literally have the exam done for them, on top of getting caught with it. That's just being both an asshole and complete fucktard.
> ridiculous idea that students won't cheat given the opportunity
It's ridiculous idea everyone wont' cheat, not so ridiculous that some won't, and that if you've got the opportunity you might as well punish the cheaters you caught.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 19:25:45 2020 No.11626478 >>11624366 What cases feminization like this?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 19:27:14 2020 No.11626483 >>11624617 I can’t tell what’s real vs troll anymore more.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 19:28:17 2020 No.11626486 >>11626428 >don't feel the urge to thieve and swindle Not true. Morality is about doing to right thing DESPITE those urges.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 19:30:48 2020 No.11626495 >>11625585 Not only are people cheating, they're cheating on introductory fucking calculus. No wonder my classes are full of retards, universities just want that sweet foreigner cash.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 19:33:02 2020 No.11626506 >>11626486 chinks have no morality. you are no longer in a world of godly christian americans and to expect the same behavior from dog-eating chinese is utterly ludicrous

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 19:45:51 2020 No.11626540 >>11626445 what the hell is so hard about having in-class exams? flu-hysteria aside, i don't get this. they're completely ineffective.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 19:47:18 2020 No.11626543 >>11626445 what the hell is so hard about having in-class exams? flu-hysteria aside, i don't get this. online exams are completely ineffective.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 19:48:34 2020 No.11626544 >>11625224 That was an exam, idiot. Not homework. You sound just like those reddit posts.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 21:16:18 2020 No.11626857 >>11625751 Holy fuck dude take your lumps, you got caught bro

Anonymous Fri May 1 21:26:10 2020 No.11626885 [DELETED]

>>11626543
I did online exams and had to have a webcam filming me the whole time while an exam proctor watched me the whole time to make sure I wasn't looking up 3rd party material. It's super simple to have invilgilated exams

The point of calculus in university is to dump all shitty math students into the same course to iron out their shitty math background. If you fail this and cheat, you will just fail the rest of the courses too

Anonymous Fri May 1 21:28:22 2020 No.11626889

>>11625751
hah I got caught the same way cheating.
Way back when, some prof put an impossible question on the exam that had an online answer to see who answered it, because they were likely cheating. Anybody who answered it had to explain it in front of him and I couldn't do so because I stole the answer, ergo I stole all the answers and failed the course.

Shit happens, you got caught, you cheated, try again next time so solly americansan

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 21:41:26 2020 No.11626916 >>11624420 >there were so many cheaters and our math department was basically told not to go after them. 90% of them were Chinese It's because the chinks pay full tuition.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 21:51:47 2020 No.11626935 >>11626916 what can be done? it seems so hopeless

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 21:54:56 2020 No.11626947 >>11626935 buddy up with them, then when they ask for a rec, mention they were a vehement cheater

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 21:56:52 2020 No.11626954 >>11626947 why would they ask me for a rec? they all have their own chinky ccp buddies to count on.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 21:57:56 2020 No.11626961 >>11626947 >why would they ask me for a rec? they all have their own chinky cpc buddies to count on.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 22:12:10 2020 No.11626990 >>11626961 if chinks are also professors, then it truly is a lost cause. in AMERICA professors are either white or indian (who are fair)

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 22:15:57 2020 No.11627003 >>11621647 how many of them chinese

Anonymous Fri May 1 22:16:28 2020 No.11627004

>>11626990

lot of chink professors at my uni. they're not particularly good at their jobs. even under the dubious assumption that they're well-intentioned and doing their jobs in good faith, they don't understand the psychology of the typical american student. they always ignore the obvious and don't seem to have a good eye for developing research areas.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 22:18:14 2020 No.11627010 >>11627004 the chinese must be banned from america and the west in general. japanese and koreans have integrated fine, but the chinese have always been traitors. they make up most cheaters and the unis do nothing like the other anon said bc of money

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 22:19:11 2020 No.11627013 Why wouldn't they just use wolfram alpha or something instead?

Anonymous Fri May 1 22:23:55 2020 No.11627035

>>11627010
>the chinese must be banned from america and the west in general.

i strongly agree, but it seems like most people are content to ignore their encroachment. i wish people would pay more attention to it. there will be relatively few gen-z academics if we don't start paying attention to academia. i don't know how to communicate this effectively.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 22:30:10 2020 No.11627045 >>11627035 cont. i don't know any millennial academics. i don't have a single colleague i can relate to. it's a bit fucked up.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 22:32:05 2020 No.11627048 i'm done for, but maybe it will make others pay more attention.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 22:33:45 2020 No.11627051 >>11627045 cont. i'm done for, but maybe it will make others pay more attention.

Anonymous Fri May 1 23:06:32 2020 No.11627123

>>11626410
So what? It's ridiculous to expect not to be punished if caught cheating. My only dog in this fight is that I am an online math tutor, and these stupid fucks chose to pay Chegg, a competitor of mine. Chegg undercuts me by paying foreigners below my living wage. And I've used their services when I was in school. It's all answers and no explanation. The "tutors" if you can even call them that, have incentive to just charge you for a "written lesson" which in reality is just an answer to a homework question. So fuck em. If these kids don't want to take the time to actually learn the material, take an hour out of their day to work with someone who actually cares and has experience tutoring, is an expert in the material, then I'm glad this professor went above and beyond to burn cheaters who don't support small businesses. And to be honest, if any of these kids had been my clients, I would have done the fucking test for them, and I'd have recognized a bullshit question when I saw it. I'd have charged $100 for that. It's their fault for being un-American.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 23:11:29 2020 No.11627129 >>11627123 > It's ridiculous to expect not to be punished if caught cheating i agree entirely, but measures should be taken to prevent cheating in the first place.

Anonymous Fri May 1 23:11:31 2020 No.11627130

>>11627123
DESU I hope Corona lasts forever. Just the thought of charging 1000s of brainlet calc 1 students $100 a piece to take an online exam gets me off so fucking hard. But these fucks would probably share my service and I wouldn't get shit out of it. Sigh.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 23:34:43 2020 No.11627170 >>11626270 Based. Fuck chinks.

Anonymous Fri May 1 23:36:00 2020 No.11627173

>>11627129
The measures taken to prevent cheating were making the test open book, open note, open calculator, extending the testing window, making the test easy as fuck, and I suppose they gave the kids word problems. They had an entire semester to figure out 3 simple math concepts and how they relate to the real world. So Nah. Let them fuck themselves and learn the hard way. I don't want people who will be dishonest the moment they think they can get away with it to be successful. When this Corona thing is over, everyone is going to be judged for how they behaved. People who tried to profiteer and buy hand sanitizer in massive bulk, people who broke the community safety guidelines for their selfish bullshit, people who thought it would be a funny prank to cough on food at the grocery store, creditors taking your 1200 stimulus check out of your bank account, landlords who evicted people when they know damn well nobody is going to move in and replace them right now, are all in the same category as these kids who tried to take advantage of the system because they couldn't pass a simple calc 1 test. Fuck em all.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 23:37:15 2020 No.11627176 >>11626312 like what?

Anonymous Fri May 1 23:50:13 2020 No.11627202

>>11627173
>The measures taken to prevent cheating were making the test open book, open note, open calculator, extending the testing window, making the test easy as fuck, and I suppose they gave the kids word problems

how does that prevent cheating?

>They had an entire semester to figure out 3 simple math concepts and how they relate to the real world.

they're not going to though. their brains are full of fluoride and mercury vaccines. you have to test them in person, and frequently, or else they won't do jack shit. online teaching is just not an effective model of education. not here in america.

Anonymous Sat May 2 00:04:52 2020 No.11627236

>>11627202
>how does that prevent cheating
The test should literally be so fucking easy that nobody would need to cheat. All it takes to pass is being able to synthesize information, apply concepts, and look up formulas.
>that second part
LOL. The real problem is that public schools place equal emphasis on 4 core subjects, PE, and meaningless electives. Kids learn to think it's ok to be bad at real work that requires developing real intelligence, and that it's just fine to "REMEMBER THE LESSONS OF HISTORY OR YOU ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT THEM" and analyze the meaning of [insert stupid sex/poop joke from Shakespeare here]. Meanwhile nobody bothers to teach these kids integrity or plain old common sense. The real sin is that 126 kids didn't see it coming. They're no different than a guy who thinks he can get away with murdering his wife for insurance money.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 00:35:04 2020 No.11627304 >>11621800 Unbelievably based

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 00:45:56 2020 No.11627333 File: 81 KB, 613x761, 1586056802520.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11621647 >wiggers cheating what else is new?

Anonymous Sat May 2 00:48:28 2020 No.11627340

>>11621654
I mean it is retarded. I think the retards there got caught, while the other students used private whatsapp groups.

>>11626270
This.
Chinks should go back to their commie shithole asap or be tested more thoroughly on their ability to speak English. I do not like the Chinese at all.

>>11623004
Yes.
Absolutely based.

>>11625407
No they cheat on exams since they got their inner circle already to write assignments for them since they are too bad at English to actually write a passing grade essay. Not joking either its that bad.

Also it is absolutely a MUST that cheaters get caught and punished. Otherwise an academic degree is worthless. If you have people going around buying shit and an university and its staff taking no stance against this, the university will lose its accreditation, funding and entire cohorts of people who took certain classes (or degrees) will have their results invalidated. It actually happened once in my country (Netherlands) and the uni is not taken seriously anymore by anyone.

Anonymous Sat May 2 00:54:32 2020 No.11627349

>>11621647
>defending a faggot professor crying about all the work he did recycling math questions
It is l i t e r a l l y introductory calculus. A highschool freshman could learn it after being taught how to factor. Its fucking braindead. This professor is doing classic professor bullshit acting like hes taking on the world teaching absolute piss baby easy classes.
>defending people that cant do introductory calc or even just plu in calc questions to a calculator
Lol what are you even on

Anonymous Sat May 2 00:55:51 2020 No.11627354

>>11624420
I had very good evidence of one guy just buying a 25+ page report in a master degree (tons of detailed graphs, math etc incl was a big project). Reason being it was a group project of like 4 people. One guy didn't do shit at all. We informed a TA and head prof twice of this, and kicked him out like a day before deadline was due. He quickly joined another group who randomly accepted him. He wasn't well connected to these people at all, he prob paid. Anyway the prof still passed him since the people in his new group said he worked rly hard. Amazing shit.

The guy in question was barely literate in English as well.

Anonymous Sat May 2 01:00:55 2020 No.11627363

>>11626506
do you really think the chinese are stupid enough to get caught cheating? The "godly christian americans" you describe are the same ones being netted by Dr. G for being the dimwits that cheat, while all the chinese are off making six digits with the pajeets

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 01:52:50 2020 No.11627441 >>11627333 based USA

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 03:40:37 2020 No.11627639 File: 135 KB, 1230x1002, 1562267097989.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wtf lol

Anonymous Sat May 2 03:42:26 2020 No.11627646

>>11625558
If we write the test online and despite me studying , my grade will depend on this i sure as hell will look it up! So many people would fall into this net i think because simply it seems like a stupid question, and they'd rather get the question answered, than fail the test and having to argue with the professor later.

Anonymous Sat May 2 03:48:11 2020 No.11627663

>>11621647
>>Final Exam for Math 135, an introductory calculus course
Not quite. The real intro calculus is 151 for math, physics, and engineering majors. 135 is a watered down course for bio*, econ, and business majors which you can't use to go further in calculus courses like multivariable or differential equations.
>business and bio* majors caught cheating
What else is new?

Anonymous Sat May 2 03:48:56 2020 No.11627665

>>11627646
If a student really understands the material, and after trying to answer it without help, instead goes to Chegg, he should be able to recognize it as a bullshit answer, and then looking at the question again, recognize it as a bullshit question.

Anonymous Sat May 2 03:51:20 2020 No.11627677

>>11624413
>every course is a women's studies course
Hello /pol/, unlettered as always.
>>11624083
>because there were so many cheaters that is impossible to fight them all.
You can say that about everything.
>>11624092
>alphabet agents
Alphabet = google
The phrase you're looking for is "alphabet soup agents."
>>11624420
>When I was a TA there were so many cheaters and our math department was basically told not to go after them. 90% of them were Chinese
Because everyone already knows to disregard any chink's qualifications as bullshit.
>because they move the curve
Curves shouldn't even exist 99% of the time.
>>11622796
b8
>>11621800
>Fuck universities, fuck professors, and fuck students
Show me on the doll where the professor and fratbois touched you.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 04:28:37 2020 No.11627745 >>11626935 Stop immigration. All of it. No exceptions. That removes foreign students from the equation for cheating, spot stealing, competition for jobs, IP theft, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 04:30:55 2020 No.11627747 >>11627639 >wtf lol Niggers are really bad at math and need to cheat their way through intro calculus. >11627333 >11627363 Seething bugmen detected.

Anonymous Sat May 2 05:08:53 2020 No.11627791

First, I hope these idiots get expelled or at least get XF in their transcript. If they did it, they deserve nothing less.

Being said that, this professor is preposterous! I could not imagine someone from my department writing public messages to students using that kind of vocabulary. I think he will have problems with Rutgers once they found out about his posts.

So, I would say this is a clash between idiots (who need to cheat to pass trivial maths course) and the idiot (who does not have any social skills whatsoever).

Anonymous Sat May 2 05:20:57 2020 No.11627815

>>11627791
>Being said that, this professor is preposterous! I could not imagine someone from my department writing public messages to students using that kind of vocabulary.
I can absolutely see a professor doing that if he caught 126 students cheating. It even makes sense - rage clicks drive visibility, which means Rutgers can't memory hole the story, which means there had better be at least 126 people punished for cheating or we'll know someone was allowed to cheat. If that came out and the student was a foreign national it would hit national media.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 05:25:42 2020 No.11627823 >>11627639 this was deleted was it not based reddit mods

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 08:16:46 2020 No.11628139 >>11621800 t. truck driver

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 08:52:52 2020 No.11628213 >>11627745 ZEMMOUR PRESIDENT !

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 12:54:05 2020 No.11628826 >>11627747 cope harder while you watch your job get stolen

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