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What happens if string theory is disproven Anonymous Wed Apr 29 19:34:49 2020 No.11618318 [Reply] [Original]

Does it mean we wasted 40 years on this guy’s nonsense?

Would any of the research be useful anywhere else?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 19:40:47 2020 No.11618341 >>11618318 >what will happen? Like...so many sui/sci/des.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 19:42:43 2020 No.11618347 >>11618341 get out

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 19:56:21 2020 No.11618397 File: 183 KB, 771x804, aaf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11618318 >Does it mean we wasted 40 years on this guy’s nonsense?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 20:04:47 2020 No.11618436 >>11618318 I don't know if string theory can be disproved. It's basis uses eigenmodes to describe physical phenomena. It's pretty likely that anything can be described in that way. If something is wrong just add more epicycles as they say.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 20:09:09 2020 No.11618454 Nonetheless string theory has important implications for group theory and number theory involving discretization. Witten might make an eternal mark on pure mathematics of all things.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 20:11:48 2020 No.11618462 >>11618318 wait is string theory kill? when did this happen?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 20:31:34 2020 No.11618510 >>11618318 String theory is impotent, and makes no falsifiable predictions, so I fail to see how it can be proven wrong.

Anonymous Wed Apr 29 20:47:07 2020 No.11618561
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>>11618510
>hurr durr string theory bad! Unfalsfiable!

W and Z boson took 50 years to be directly verified. Similarly, gravitational wave took 100 years and Higgs boson took 48 years.

I always wonder why brainlets who can't even understand linear algebra talk about string theory. These brainless mobs never mention any technical things and just always repeat 'muh testable prediction'.

'String theory bad' is totally equivalent NPC's crying to 'orange man bad'

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 20:49:32 2020 No.11618571 >>11618318 40 years and still holds the same prediction power as bacterial parapsychology. Truly a remarkable display of autistic mathematical delusion.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 20:55:47 2020 No.11618595 >>11618571 it’s okay to admit you don’t understand things

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 20:58:23 2020 No.11618600 what are the prerequisites to string theory and what are some good texts on the topic?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 21:00:49 2020 No.11618606 >>11618318 >nose what do you think?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 21:02:19 2020 No.11618613 > what are the prerequisites to string theory Most, if not all, of the course material in an undergraduate physics degree

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 21:03:43 2020 No.11618620 >>11618613 plus graduate work

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 21:06:11 2020 No.11618630 >>11618561 It's almost guaranteed NPCs fucking love string theory like they fucking love science

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 21:35:20 2020 No.11618705 File: 106 KB, 715x812, 1587310610104.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11618630 > Shitposter (real NPC in physics) on 4chan calls string theorist in the world's best university 'NPC' Top kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 22:19:25 2020 No.11618814 >>11618318 >Would any of the research be useful anywhere else? Of course, it already has (in pure math).

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 22:22:05 2020 No.11618821 >>11618630 Nah. Popsci is full of anti-string zealotry

Anonymous Wed Apr 29 22:27:02 2020 No.11618841

>>11618318
String theory is not science because the mathematical models it uses are so flexibility you can get it to output any result you want. So string theory hasn’t and literally never will make any measurable predictions that can be tested. It is mathematical sophistry, nobody in science takes it seriously.

Anonymous Wed Apr 29 22:41:02 2020 No.11618877

>>11618318
>he thinks you can disprove string theory
The number of unique string theories you can have is something like the number of planck volumes you would have if you doubly nested a full-scale universe inside every planck volume of the visible universe.

Anonymous Wed Apr 29 23:09:45 2020 No.11618927

>>11618561
>W and Z boson took 50 years to be directly verified. Similarly, gravitational wave took 100 years and Higgs boson took 48 years.

All those things were basically the last undiscovered building blocks of the universe. Meanwhile string theory is an entirely new system in and of itself

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 23:10:42 2020 No.11618930 >>11618877 damn so it’s finite, that’s a huge improvement

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 23:11:32 2020 No.11618932 >>11618877 If you can’t falsify something i guess that’s good job security for the researchers

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 23:21:16 2020 No.11618962 >>11618318 cannot disprove something unfalsifiable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RQ6ugMWZ0c

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 23:22:09 2020 No.11618964 >>11618932 So they just found out how to give themselves lifelong jobs

Anonymous Wed Apr 29 23:23:25 2020 No.11618969 [DELETED]

>>11618318
Whether or not string theory is disproven, many cords will continue to be clamped off early. Portions of the penis will continue to be amputated. Vitamin K will be injected. Pitocin will be used. Immunogenic brain damage and existential maiming will occur via vaccination.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 23:29:09 2020 No.11618980 >>11618606 it is noes.

Anonymous Wed Apr 29 23:30:07 2020 No.11618983

>>11618318
Has string theory even made ANY testable prediction at all?
String theory can adapt to practically any new discoveries,
and I'd assume it has already been thoroughly checked for coherence.
Not sure, if that makes it "waste", but it certainly doesn't help.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 23:31:23 2020 No.11618985 >>11618595 It's ok to admit your math has even less utility as the daily newspaper Sudoku after 40 years of zero predictions, zero results and constantly decreasing funding.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 00:13:12 2020 No.11619055

>>11618318
Bro, Einstein developed a new gravitacional theory. Today we do not say that Newton was wrong, we just say that his theory was incomplete. Newton theory is not a waste of time, it is just a step forward. BWT. We now know that General Relativity is incomplete, we we are still looking for the step forward.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 01:20:29 2020 No.11619188 >>11619055 Yes, but einstein theory made testable predictions thatbhave been donde since its formulation.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 01:28:37 2020 No.11619194 >>11618985 Brainlets not getting any utility out of string theory is one of its positive qualities desu

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 01:35:07 2020 No.11619203 >>11619194 Nobody is getting any utility out of your paranormal theory except for a bunch of autists on disability checks who can barely tie their own shoes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 02:03:59 2020 No.11619241 >>11619203 Seethe for me baby

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 04:12:48 2020 No.11619462 Imagine a highly political Jew telling you that the universe has the same number of dimensions as there are sephirot and you waste your entire career jacking the theory off before the LHC proves it wrong

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 04:15:35 2020 No.11619469 >>11619462 Rent Free

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 04:17:22 2020 No.11619475 Well considering GRT and SRT are false, we've already wasted over a century cause of some moderately intelligent, eccentric, and ultimately incorrect Jew's crackpot theories.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 05:45:34 2020 No.11619670

Even if string theory might not prove to be the correct explanation of reality, its byproducts advanced other areas, e.g. condensed matter physics.

Without string they might have never been able to experimentally identify the higgs https://profmattstrassler.com/2012/08/15/from-string-theory-to-the-large-hadron-collider/

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 05:57:02 2020 No.11619690
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>>11619670
SPIEGEL:Was ist denn dann der Wert einersolchen Spekulation?Laughlin:Gar keiner. Ich wollte provozieren.Denn ich bin es satt, in Seminaren zu sitzenund mir Spekulationen über SchwarzeLöcher und Superstrings anzuhören. Nie-mand redet da über Experimente. Wer wirk-lich originelle Dinge hervorgebracht hat, derweiß: Du musst dich zu disziplinieren wissen.Rede nur über Dinge, die auch messbar sind.SPIEGEL: War der Ärger über die String-Forscher ein Anstoß für Ihr Buch?Laughlin:Den Anstoß hat ein Foto in einerdeutschen Zeitschrift gegeben. Zu sehenwaren lauter String-Forscher, und es hieß,das seien die klügsten Leute der Welt ...SPIEGEL: ... kann es sein, dass es sich umdieses Foto aus dem SPIEGEL handelt?
Laughlin:Oh, ja, ganz genau! Das hat michverrückt gemacht, als ich es gesehen habe. Keine einzige Behauptung vondiesen Typen ist durch ein Experimentgedeckt. Nicht ein einziger hat irgend-etwas gesagt, das wahr ist! Und der König von allen ist er hier, Stephen Haw-king. Ich habe gehört, dass ihm Frauen Babys bringen, damit er sie berührt. Die-ser Mann hat einen Weg gefunden, sichzur kulturellen Ikone zu machen. Was fürein Typ! Da kann man nur sagen: Ja, in-sofern ist der wirklich einer der klügstenLeute.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 07:24:04 2020 No.11619831

>>11618318
>What happens if string theory is disproven

What happens if Newtons laws are disproven?

Nothing at all, they ARE wrong, BUT for all the data he had at the time they were correct.

Time dilation, relativity, quantum events, etc. were all to be observed later.

String theory is the best theory we have NOW with the observations we have NOW.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 07:30:25 2020 No.11619839 >>11618561 You are free to mention some testable predictions string theory makes and prove us wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 07:31:27 2020 No.11619840 >>11618962 Imagine getting a blowjob from her.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 07:50:42 2020 No.11619881 >>11618318 Even disregarding physics, string theory is probably the most fascinating area of mathematics discovered in recent decades. So it ain't going anywhere no matter what.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 08:07:15 2020 No.11619917 whoever / whenever disproves it will not tell a soul

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 08:12:08 2020 No.11619928 >>11618814 >pure math >useful The study of unreal but possible models for the universe is just as useful as pure math

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 10:06:39 2020 No.11620193 >>11619840 I thought of that. I think I would enjoy it a lot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 10:44:48 2020 No.11620302 >>11619241 Kinda difficult to seethe for someone who believes in paranormal theories.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 10:45:51 2020 No.11620305 >>11619831 >String theory is the best theory we have NOW with the observations we have NOW. Fucking kek imagine ACTUALLY believing this

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