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Hi, how do you usually find scientific papers on subjects that interest you if you are not specialized in a science? I am for interested interested in the effect of doorways on memory in psychology and looking up "doorway memory" in sci-hub gives me nothing, looking up "doorway" gives me mostly nuclear reactions, 100 of them in a search, and nothing of the kind if I look up "walking doorway" which still didn't give me the paper I wanted. I want to learn a bit more about experiments that were tried and never investigated again, forgotten ideas removed from the mainstream and try to synthesize it with new knowledge or technology today.
Questions:
1. Is there a basic set of papers that are a must read that may be found in a torrent or something? Sci-hub's papers are in total 55TB so its too much for me to handle. Would be very interested in reading a set of the most important papers in a subject or just having someone's collection of their favorite or most important papers to them.
2. What journals do you like to read the most and for what reason? I am reading the most interesting stuff so I can do studies related to it, and I am interested in physics, neuroscience, psychology, and engineering. As you can see these are very general so I would prefer to have a general understanding by way of reading interesting papers.
3. The citations are all over the place. Some people cite themselves for various reasons and its not a bad thing, theoretical physics has a lot of self citation because they build upon their own work or work with others, Khavinson who studied peptides in Russia was largely ignored in the west and usually cites his own work. and others cite themselves to look important. What is a good criteria for you?
Thanks!

>> No.11583385

>>11583256
In general, I use google scholar, as it has a good search algorithm. That combined with the unpaywall Firefox extension helps make papers more accessible. For example searching "psychology effect of doorway on memory" gives the following papers:
Walking through doorways causes forgetting: Further explorations
Walking through doorways causes forgetting: Younger and older adults.
Walking through doorways causes forgetting: Environmental integration

>> No.11583392

>>11583256
Also, regarding your topic in general, I would look up hippocampal place cells. They provide you with an internal map of the environment you are in, which remaps whenever you move to a new room/environment. The hippocampus is also tied to memory consolidation/retrieval. So the end result could be that whenever you move rooms/environments your internal map, which is tied to memory, gets scrambled.

>> No.11583414

>>11583392
Thank you very much. I got into reading books but I also want to read papers of scientists. I know a few basic ones like Claude Shannon's information theory but very little regarding the subjects mentioned (so far). I couldn't find it on sci hub because it needs to be only doorways but I'll use Google instead. I read a few papers on it and it seems that there is a location mapping and an object mapping system and both can be mixed around in a paper by Radvansky. I'll look those up too, thanks!!

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>>11583256

Tavistock jedi mind trick

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>>11583505

>continued

>> No.11583607

So the old joke / anecdote about Gramps or Scatterbrained Aunt walking into the room and forgetting why they arrived, may be a real thing?

>> No.11583651

>>11583607
Yeah, at least what that's Bruce McNaughton told me. He's the Postdoc under John O'Keefe who helped him win a Nobel for discovering the place cell.

>> No.11583669

>>11583607
OP here. It's all doorways and location changes even when observing someone go though one. The weird thing is, it's not physical. The same thing happens in digital doorways in games and vr. This subject fascinated me. It all affect the kids of room I study in. It's not affected by age in one study.

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>>11583669
While it is true that the vestibular system (i.e., inner ear) inputs to the hippocampus, the visual system also provides inputs. For example, you have boundary cells that map the edges of an environment (walls, doors, etc). These also remap to new locations. Presumably, these cells should function as well in VR and the like, since you are still providing the required visual inputs.

>> No.11583759

>>11583669
I checked, and it's the same for mice. Even when put in VR, where they have less vestibular input from moving around, place cells still function. However, I can't say about watching others, maybe an artifact of the mirror neuron system, but that's unlikely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DJOTEDBA2c