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>watch numberphile videos and read math books like Archimedes Revenge
>tell dad about cool things I watch like conjectures that fail at really high numbers
>dad always tells me I should major in math
>try to explain to him I am too retarded for an actual math major
>explain this is just entry tier pop math and an actual math degree would rape my ass
>he disagrees because I managed an A- in community college calculus 5 years ago
He deserved a better son.

Is there anything like CLEP exams but for higher math than calc 1?

>> No.11565178

>>11565171
When you break down college classes like calculus you come to realize that you pretty much already know what to do as long as you've memorized the formula and know how it works.
Everything is easy as long as you understand it and it takes the right teacher to teach it right to get students to understand it easier.

>> No.11565197

>>11565171
How old are you now?

>> No.11565567

>>11565197
25

>> No.11565793

bro don't take life so seriously. try to make it in math if that's what you like / see as a possible career

>> No.11565807

>>11565793
This

>> No.11565873

I think it's cute you can talk to your dad about stuff like that.
Also, I'd go with his advice and try your earnest and make him proud.
I'm your same age and I began with physics this year (good timing huh) and now I'm working through calc I and baby physics and after years of cope with the smart but lazy delusion I realized that all I needed was to focus and forget about wordly worries.

So, this is what you do:
Enrroll in college, watch lectures, get back on track and after you pass calc I (again) and Linear algebra it should be downhill if you managed to apply yourself.

Wish you all the best and make your people proud.

>> No.11565887

>>11565171
It seems the source of your problem is your relationship with your father, not math.
Math is cool, and if you like it, try pursuing it. But if you don't, it's not a big deal.
It's nice that you can talk to your dad about things like that. If you can have conversations with your dad like that, I'm sure he's very happy to be your father.
Don't spend your time with your father worrying about what you are to him. Just enjoy it. He won't always be there, and when he isn't, you will regret that your time with him was clouded with anxiety.

>> No.11565894

>>11565873 here
>>11565887 this is better advice.

>> No.11565934

>>11565873
>>11565567
also 25. Have a degree in chemistry and just now figured out that I should've been studying math/physics. Gonna become a quantum chemist and work on theories to calculate electronic excitation in transition metal molecules now. It's alright bros. We're all gonna make it.

>> No.11565942

just read a mind for numbers, author's bio should give you enough motivation

>> No.11565988

>>11565887
I have a good rleationship with my dad but I can tell underneath it all he will always be disappointed in me. I enjoy my time with him all the time.

>> No.11565992

>>11565942
I've been reading Paul Lockhart books which have been motivating me as well but I will check out mind for numbers thanks anon.

>> No.11567525

bump

>> No.11567538

>>11565934
This was me before the hallucinations started. Math/chem undergrad, physics minor. Theoretical physical chemistry phd program

>> No.11568516

>>11567538
>hallucinations
?

>> No.11568540

I was in the same situation. I pushed myself to self-learn mathematics. I started with Kenneth Ross' Elementary Analysis: The Theory of Calculus, and did 90% of the exercises. I took a few months. This book teaches you how to prove something (the most important skill of any mathematician). After this I was able to self-learn with more higher level college texts.

If you put in the effort, there's no reason why you shouldn't succeed.

>> No.11568544

>>11565171
watch wildberger if you want some half decent lectures

>> No.11568551

>>11568544
Don't actualy, he's a real crank.

>> No.11568594

>>11565992
This
"Measurement" is such a good book for motivating mathematical problem solving

>> No.11568877

>>11565942
I have it, read 20-30 pages, until now haven't really learned anything, should I finish it, is there more in the book besides explaining diffused vs focused for 5 times?

>> No.11568888

>>11568877
Not really, the only valuable lesson is that you can be an aimless army fag, get your shit together and end up in a noticeable spot, if you will

>> No.11568895

>>11568888

(8)888 Christ the Redeemer.

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11568897

>>11568888
What a waste.

>> No.11568915

>>11565171
if you haven't tried studying math for 5+ hours a day yet you can't say you're too retarded for an actual math major. if you're interested and motivated you could probably pull it off, it's not like you have to be brilliant just to get the undergrad degree for it

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11568919

>>11565171
>>watch numberphile videos
>>I am too retarded for an actual math major
checks out

>> No.11568975

>>11565171
OP. Believe me there are way more retards in math than you would think. Well not in pure but definitely in applied. Do you know why your dad listens to you and tells you to major in math? It's because he sees you have an interest in it, and wants you to be happy. He sees you all depressed blogging on 4channel and thinks you learning math will help. Just do it. Take out a loan if you have to, even a bachelor's in math pays itself back. Go for pure if you're interested, else just do applied and make your dad proud. Be the better son you think your dad deserves. You brainlet fuckup.

>> No.11569734

>>11568594
OP here, yeah I just finished reading that one and I am reading some others of his now.
Is analysis really just about finding zeros of derivative?

>> No.11569740

>>11568919
you missed the second part of my sentence

>>11568915
true but I don't have the money for that shit
hence why I am wondering how much I could study and get credit for on my own.

>> No.11569776

>>11569740
>Study
As much as you want
>Get credit
It doesn't work that way unfortunately. You need to pay to play.

>> No.11569787

I feel like you need to decide whether you just have a casual interest in it or a desire to go into mathematics as a career. I think aerospace is cool as hell but I know my heart just wouldn't be in it as a career.

>> No.11569822

If you really enjoy studying math then go for it. I think that you will find a math undergraduate degree won’t “rape your ass” if you’re willing to put the work in. Remember, not everyone taking university level math is some young Euler or Ramujandran, and it’s not unusual to struggle.

>> No.11570272

>>11568919
ignore this fag

>> No.11570295

>>11565171
All it requires is time. I'm a brainlet trying to comprehend the simplest concepts behind signal processing but it's coming. Just gotta keep at it.

>> No.11570298

>>11565567
Did you drop out of college or something?

>> No.11570308

>>11565171
Nigga just do whatever you like fuck everyone else. There aint much else to do in this world. Also what gave you that initial impression about a math major?

>> No.11570312

>>11565793
Yeah this. OP you're retarded if you're ignoring what you're father says. He has way more life experience than you and wants you to be happy.

>> No.11571474

Cmon OP, you go to school to learn. Don't shame yourself for entry tier pop math, some people don't even get that far. Understanding that you know nothing is a good mindset to go to school with, and you seem pretty passionate about learning math. I think you'd excel in college if you put in the effort.

>> No.11573088

>>11570298
I took some classes, passed them all, but stopped taking them cause i didn't have a degree.

>> No.11573116

I like math and science for fun but pursuing them as a job seems absolutely bonkers to me. There will always be someone smarter that can do the same work with 1/10 the effort. Then you end up working for normies anyway.
Although I do like how you can possibly end up getting a job that involves physical objects and not people.

>> No.11573182

>>11565171
Your dad is right, wanker. You're just too much of an insecure faggot, but you're not retarded. Go get that fucking degree.

>> No.11575207

>>11573116
My current job involves objects and I hate it. It's also monotonous but it could technically qualify as a stem job since it's basically electronics manufacturing and involves some "programming."

I'd like to teach myself to program again as I used to do a fair bit of that, but I have no idea what language to learn and how on earth to make myself marketable.