/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.11513451]

Why are there no intensive studies on race and intelligence? It’s a pretty major issue with a lot of serious societal implications is it not? Do they think the problem will just go away if they ignore it?

[Anonymous No.11513458]

>>11513451
Not open to the public but you can find regular information, for example, average IQ of a country's population.

[Anonymous No.11513476]

>>11513458
I’m not talking about just IQ alone though, as that’s still open to debates about nature v nurture. I’m talking about actual studies on neurological differences between races and their implications.

[Anonymous No.11513477]

>>11513451
Elites don't want anyone questioning multiculti/diversity

[Anonymous No.11513507]

>>11513451

Because anytime studies it, it results in a bunch of asshats sperging out and commiting genocide by justifying their jingoism on racial grounds.

[Anonymous No.11513512]

>>11513507
When has that ever happened?

[Anonymous No.11513514]

>>11513451
There's plenty of studies between race and intelligence, race and crime and so on but they're all flawed in that they don't confirm my worldview.

[Anonymous No.11513517]

>>11513507
Don’t you think that’s underestimating peoples capability for rational thought?

[Anonymous No.11513528]

>>11513517

If anything I'm overestimating it.

[Anonymous No.11513529]

>>11513512

WW2 + any colonial war ever fought

[Anonymous No.11513530]

>>11513507
Scared of the truth, eh?

[Anonymous No.11513531]

>>11513517
racists are not really human. they are beneath.

[Anonymous No.11513532]

>>11513507
You do realize that Hitler banned IQ tests because Germans were consistently scoring lower than Jews, right?

[Anonymous No.11513543]

>>11513532
>doesn’t believe in IQ tests
>vegan
>loves puppers

Hitler sounds like an average redditor.

[Anonymous No.11513548]

Hey guys, OP here. I've just crunched the numbers and it turns out I'm gay y'all.

[Anonymous No.11513560]

It would be a lot more effective to study the relationship between religiosity and intelligence.

[Anonymous No.11513570]

>>11513531
Define "racist"

[Anonymous No.11513573]

>>11513451
Because it is pretty much completely impossible to control for various confounding factors.

[Anonymous No.11513576]

>>11513570
Anyone who judges people for their race/ethnicity instead of the individual content of their character.

[Anonymous No.11513577]

Surely the most that would happen would be they find a slight variation in the average intelligence and then what would you propose to do with that information? it's meaningless info

[Anonymous No.11513579]

>>11513560
Anglichads confirmed big brain.

[Anonymous No.11513580]

>>11513577
OP is a /pol/ poster. They are all clinically retarded and evil psychopaths. Do the math.

[Anonymous No.11513584]

>>11513579
This chart makes no sense right off the bat, since half of Jews (all the super intelligent ones) are atheistic. There is definitely no religious group smarter than atheists, or even close to as smart.

[Anonymous No.11513585]

>>11513577
I guess that goes into a different discussion about the morality of statistical discrimination.

[Anonymous No.11513588]

>>11513584
That's why there's 2 separate categories, retard.
>There is definitely no religious group smarter than atheists, or even close to as smart.
LOL sorry kiddo.

[Anonymous No.11513591]

>>11513451

>Why are there no intensive studies on race and intelligence?

Because you're a retard who needs to be spoonfed shit. Learn to use google and piss off.

[Anonymous No.11513594]

>>11513588
You are a moron.

[Anonymous No.11513596]

>>11513584
>N-NOOOOOOO THE DATA DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!!!!
>HOW CAN THIS BE HAPPENING!!!!!
>WE EUPHORIC ONES ARE THE SMARTEST GROUP I KNOW IT!!!!!

[Anonymous No.11513600]

>>11513596
>unsourced chart with flawed methodology
surely I will take this to mean that the religious, who are universally retarded, are actually smart

[Anonymous No.11513602]

>>11513584
they're measuring religion not ethnicity, you stupendous dingbat

[Anonymous No.11513606]

>>11513451

There were.

https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf

But the powers that be successfully transformed acknowledging this data a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime

I about a decade ago I had seen some news stating that researchers were abandoning this topic due to pressure.

A nobel winner, james watson, became an https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/unperson apparently mainly to his statements regarding this (apparently he was an al around prick, but anyways).


I honestly don't know what to think about this. I believe that this data has very serious economical (and even political) implications. But, at the same time, I've seen people I highly respect strongly opposing to raising this kind of issue.
I do recognize that this might give rise to serious racial tension..and I'm not from humanities to know the full implication of this. Imagine, for example, kids dealing with this info. It would be a disaster. Also, imagine the psychological weight of having this stigma upon you. You see.. I'm trying to say here that I'm not blind to this issues.. but still.

I mostly avoid this subject today. People have suggested I was insensitive and intellectually dishonest for believing this. And that's the official answer to this topic today. Considering this might be true means you intelectualy dishonest and insensitive (or just 'selfish/evil') because no intelligent and well meaning person would believe in such things. But this is a lie. People like William Shockley and Bertrand Russell have considered it. And at least Russell's intelligence and goodness are very hard to question.

I had promised to myself to avoid this subject.. I hope I don't regret writing this.

[Anonymous No.11513607]

>>11513596
There is no question whatever that atheists are the smartest group with respect to religious belief

[Anonymous No.11513608]

>>11513584

[Sage goes in all fields No.11513611]

>>11513451
Nice bait, but I'll take it:
There are lots of studies on lack of food/education/etc. and lack of intelligence. How do you even do studies on "race vs intelligence" without knowing their socioeconomic background first?

[Anonymous No.11513614]

>>11513600
So Bacon, Galileo, Boyle, Newton, Kepler, Leibniz, Pascal, Euler, Dalton, Cauchy, Riemann, Faraday, Volta, Babbage, Maxwell, Mendel, Pasteur, Stokes, Kelvin, Thomson, Carver, Röntgen, Marconi, Eddington, Fisher, Millikan, Compton, Lemaitre, Heisenberg, von Braun, Church, Collins, Barrow, Ellis, Isham, Malcadena, Polkinghorne, Bolzano, Misner, Kronecker, Nelson, Cantor, and Gödel were retarded?

Nah, you're probably just a SEETHING atheist lmao

[Anonymous No.11513616]

>>11513607
cope >>11513579

[Anonymous No.11513620]

>>11513614
If they lived now, not a single one of them would be religious. Religious intellectuals literally don’t exist anymore.

How fat are you btw? Did you go to McDonald’s after church today?

[Anonymous No.11513621]

>>11513600
>with flawed methodology
?

[Anonymous No.11513623]

>>11513616
what is the source for that chart lmao it definitely isn’t true

[Anonymous No.11513629]

>>11513529
Neither of those were due to racial intelligence differences

[Anonymous No.11513630]

>>11513620
>if they lived now
>Collins, Barrow, Ellis, Isham, Malcadena, Polkinghorne, Misner are not alive
Damn, you just keep making a fool of yourself.

[The S𝔞ge of all fields No.11513631]

it's not scientific since race isn't a proper taxonomic rank with a well defined criterion and neither is any "universal" intelligence measurement method.
however social "science", psychology and anthropology fags can do their studies on this since they only rely on superficial observations and their beliefs/biases.

[Anonymous No.11513633]

>>11513576
Even positively? Is that to say that even identifying race is racist?

[Anonymous No.11513635]

>>11513630
I have no idea who any of these nobodies are lmao. I just assumed you were listing long dead intellectuals since there are no smart living religious people.

How fat are you though? Church and then double bacon slathered in mayo?

[Anonymous No.11513636]

>>11513620
>How fat are you btw? Did you go to McDonald’s after church today?

[Anonymous No.11513637]

>>11513633
Why would you mention someone’s race as a positive thing about them unless you were a retard? All races have horrible people. You need much more information than race to say anything meaningful about a person.

[Anonymous No.11513638]

>>11513635
>How fat are you though?

[Anonymous No.11513639]

>>11513451
>Why are there no intensive studies on race and intelligence?
There are.

[Anonymous No.11513642]

>>11513638
So extra mayo then lol. I bet your Christian family has an average weight of over 300 lbs

[Anonymous No.11513643]

>>11513635
>I have no idea who any of these nobodies are lmao.
That's because you're a retard who knows nothing about physics.

[Anonymous No.11513647]

>>11513620
>Religious intellectuals literally don’t exist anymore.
what does it feel like to get btfo again and again in every post you make? you must be getting tired by now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology#Currently_living

[Anonymous No.11513648]

>>11513451
Because race doesn't exist and if you think does, you can't define it

[Anonymous No.11513649]

>>11513643
I have a hobbyist’s understanding of physics. I have no interest in specializing because I’m not a sperg who doesn’t get bored of doing the same thing repeatedly.

[Anonymous No.11513652]

>>11513637
For the same reason we stereotype different nationalities and say "these people are known for being hardworking," "these people are known for being clever," "these people are known for being tough," etc. While it doesn't mean every example fits the bill, it's still data worth considering. Some dogs are quiet, some cats are loud, but if someone asked you what animal tends to be noisier, you'd probably say dogs because you remember many more examples of barking dogs than loud meowing cats.

[Anonymous No.11513653]

>>11513647
Why would you think you could change my mind by posting a list brain dead religious people? They aren’t smart. If they were smart they would not be religious. You’re fat btw lol, like all religious folk.

[Anonymous No.11513655]

>>11513451
What would you do with this information? With nutrition vs intelligence we can see that making more nutritious food will result in a smarter populace, do you have a similar solution in mind for any findings related to race?

[Anonymous No.11513657]

>>11513623
>I don't like it so it definitely isn't true

[Anonymous No.11513660]

>>11513652
Stereotypes are boring and used by idiots to simplify the world to a palatable level

[Anonymous No.11513662]

>>11513642

[Anonymous No.11513664]

>>11513657
Do you really think an adult that believes in Harry Potter can be smart dude?

[Anonymous No.11513665]

>>11513476
when u say implications then ur not even doing science anymore

[Anonymous No.11513666]

>>11513653
>You’re fat btw lol, like all religious folk.

[Anonymous No.11513670]

>>11513653
>Why would you think you could change my mind by posting a list brain dead religious people? They aren’t smart. If they were smart they would not be religious.
Man you must be breaking down in TEARS by now

[Anonymous No.11513673]

>>11513660
Pattern recognition is a sign of intelligence. It doesn't make sense not to make use of data that's consistent enough to become a stereotype.

[Anonymous No.11513675]

>>11513662
Those first two sentences are poignant and true. Religion makes society function by convincing a population of useful idiot wage slaves who don’t benefit from their own work or lives to push on for the hidden benefit of the parasites society actually supports. It’s true to this day. Only bad jobs are important, and only people with useless jobs are happy. Religion maintains this evil state of affairs by blackmailing the important people with bad jobs into staying alive and staying obedient.

[Anonymous No.11513679]

>>11513594
You are very stupid

[Anonymous No.11513680]

>>11513635
>there are no smart living religious people
How stupid do you have to be to believe this? There's smart people of every kind. You have to be seriously deluded to think otherwise. Redditors need to leave the house more.

[Anonymous No.11513685]

>>11513675
>Those first two sentences are poignant and true. Religion makes society function by convincing a population of useful idiot wage slaves who don’t benefit from their own work or lives to push on for the hidden benefit of the parasites society actually supports. It’s true to this day. Only bad jobs are important, and only people with useless jobs are happy. Religion maintains this evil state of affairs by blackmailing the important people with bad jobs into staying alive and staying obedient.

[Anonymous No.11513688]

>>11513675

[Anonymous No.11513710]

>>11513600
>>11513620
>>11513635
>>11513642
>>11513675

[Anonymous No.11513731]

>>11513710
>>11513688
>>11513685
Holy canopies you are MAD!!’

[Anonymous No.11513739]

>>11513680
Simple my guy. Believing in god and being smart are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVe.

[Anonymous No.11513763]

>>11513739
>Believing in god and being smart are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVe.

[Sage goes in all fields No.11513798]

come on, people. don't feed the trolls

also, this thread shold have been deleted a while ago

[Anonymous No.11513802]

>>11513763
>Using the fedora meme as an argument
Newfag, get out

[Anonymous No.11513824]

>>11513606
>Imagine, for example, kids dealing with this info

if you asked grade schoolers to rank the races they'd probably be nearly as accurate as the best psychometric studies

[Anonymous No.11513825]

>>11513802
>argument

[Anonymous No.11513832]

>>11513824
Well, even babies/toddlers prefer lighter-skin dolls

[Anonymous No.11513835]

>>11513798
>this thread shold have been deleted a while ago

[Anonymous No.11513920]

>>11513451
>Why are there no intensive studies on race and intelligence?
There are. They fail to find causal evidence.
>It’s a pretty major issue with a lot of serious societal implications is it not?
It's not. Why would it be? Why discriminate based on race when you could do it based on IQ?
>Do they think the problem will just go away if they ignore it?
What do you propose we do about low IQ people? (including the white ones).

Why obsess over race?

[Anonymous No.11513927]

>>11513739
you don't actually believe this

[Anonymous No.11513999]

What was the point of framing WW2 as some weird jew genocide?
Was it just a few anecdotal stories of jews in their work camps who witnessed a couple others die? Maybe 1 camp got overridden with disease and the survivors had to watch them burn all the bodies?

Like 200,000 jews died during the entire timeframe which made them a protected group. Tens of millions of soldiers died and yet only 200k jews died.

I remember some newspaper snippets posted on /pol/ that started from the late 1930's claiming 6 million jews were being accosted, and more articles continuing to use that 6 million number until finally it just evolved into "6 million died"

just seems retarded and I don't understand the misinformation or the continued proliferation of the jew genocide when german documents only account for 200k dead and it makes no sense to just genocide your free slave labor.

[Anonymous No.11514047]

>>11513529
>ww2
jesus christ you are ignorant

[Anonymous No.11514210]

It has been seriously studied for decades. The idea that it is some ignored fringe topic is a myth, promoted basically by two groups: retarded leftist journalists, and /pol/fags.

[Anonymous No.11514242]

>>11513999
>>11513999
That newspaper shit is something only pol tards are dumb enough to fall for btw. You are a massive retard

[Anonymous No.11514249]

>>11513451
They don't just ignore it, they actively shut it down. First Shockley, then Watson. How many good people do you want to go down this path?

[Anonymous No.11514303]

>>11513451
> It’s a pretty major issue with a lot of serious societal implications is it not?
No it's not