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Sorry if this gets asked a lot or if this is the wrong board but what are you thoughts on free will? Do you think a field like quantum mechanics can prove we do or don't have free will? Is it possible that everything down to the atomic level in our universe was already determined to be in specific places at specific times? Was I already determined to type this out on this message board since the dawn of our world or did I truly choose to do it?

>> No.11511155

The inexistence of free will is perfectly provable with deterministic and classical physics. Quantum anything isn't even needed.

>> No.11511248

>>11511131
>Do you think a field like quantum mechanics can prove we do or don't have free will?
Depends on the details of what one understands by free will. We already have thermal noise which prevents one to predict the future of a system even if we could observe the position, velocity and electronic configuration of individual atoms of an human being. Quantum noise does not add anything new in any in a practical sense.

>> No.11511275

>>11511155
This guys right.

>> No.11511282

>>11511131
>Do you think a field like quantum mechanics can prove we do or don't have free will?
No.

>Is it possible that everything down to the atomic level in our universe was already determined to be in specific places at specific times?
Yes.

>Was I already determined to type this out on this message board since the dawn of our world
Yes.

>did I truly choose to do it?
Yes.

>> No.11511307

bah free will doesn't exist even if the universe is deterministic, it's not you it's dog playing dice

>> No.11513373

As an actually knowledgeable person in physics, this question is outside the scope of physics

>> No.11513404

>>11511248
post feet

>> No.11513431

>>11511131
The scientific consensus is that free will exists.

>> No.11515683

bump

>> No.11515995

>>11513431
Proof?

>> No.11516538

>>11515995
becuase he said so

>> No.11516562
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>>11511131
Free will isn't even a coherent concept in the first place.

https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Free_will_(solution)