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11510982 No.11510982 [Reply] [Original]

What the heck is this "electric universe" thingamajig I keep hearing about?

>> No.11511021

Well you see *raises finger* it’s err well it’s heh *coughs*

>> No.11511031

>>11510982
Quick synopsis:
Tesla cultists dislike relativity because they are too stupid to do tensor calculus so they pretend that gravity isn't real and that Velikovsky's science fiction writings were real and and that the sun is made of electrons and the government is suppressing free energy research and technology and tesla unloked the secrets of the universe via numerology about the numbers 3 6 and 9 which somehow tie into the fibonacci sequence and the golden ration and somehow there also pilot wave theory is correct because the vibrations of the 3 6 and 9 do something desu I don't know anymore at this point because I always get too annoyed to keep going.

>> No.11511033

>>11511021
>*coughs*
CORONAAAAA ABANDON THREAD

>> No.11511042

>>11511031
How many of them are just subhuman neonazis buttsmashed about Einstein?

>> No.11511043

>>11511042
most of them it seems desu

>> No.11511075

>>11511031
Has nothing to do with Tesla, never even heard them mentioning him. Who paid you to make shit up like that?

>> No.11511080

>>11510982
It's classical physics with a modern take, using the latest understanding of the cosmos and physics. It rejects all psudoscientific nonsense, like string theory and quantum garbage.

>> No.11511083

>>11510982
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBInhPFFVog

>> No.11511095
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>>11510982
It's a huge thing, which deals with all areas of physics/life/reality, not just space. From everything to space to Earth's geology to the more delicate aspects of human biology, to the history of Earth and the solar system. A good way to begin to understand what it's about though, is by looking at the biggest problems in "mainstream" astrophysics, in the so called "settled science", and in the uniformitarian view, and go from ther, and see how the "EU" both demonstrates how big those problems are and how impossible they are to solve using "mainstream" science, how the "EU" solves those problems, and then compare the the two ways of science and see which one holds up better and makes more sense.

I'll throw you a copypasta with links in the next post.

>> No.11511096
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The religious believers in "settled science" are absolute schizos, without even knowing it.

To believe in "black holes" you /must/ be a schizo. It requires a schizo mind. It requires doublethink.

"Black holes" violate Einstein's Relativity theories, yet in the "settled science" religion they simultaneously believe in (((Relativity))). And "Black holes" (as defined by the "black hole" believers themselves) can't exist in a Big Bang universe, yet they simultaneously believe in the Big Bang. And by the official "black hole" """science""" there can't be multiple "black holes" in the same universe, yet they believe there are. 100% schizo.

Religion is religion, and believers will always be believers - they'll always ignore science and facts which contradicts their belief system.

But to everyone else who wish to learn and educate themselves, here's an excellent scientific paper describing the problems and contradictions with "black holes" and Relativity: https://files.catbox.moe/b3aur6.pdf

And here are great educational videos for those who don't want to read (all the following is based on /real science/ and observations of facts, as opposed to the "settled science" dogma):

https://youtu.be/kI14fpM3ouU

https://youtu.be/Iz8RRN8rY00

https://youtu.be/yc9PB_4F-OU

https://youtu.be/J4NffTr_GMk

https://youtu.be/Dk2-lH9ewuA

https://youtu.be/ev10ywLFq6E

https://youtu.be/I8y3VrrVEpI

https://youtu.be/Dz2A4qXJQjc

https://youtu.be/-FdWTH08u30

https://youtu.be/Q185InpONK4

https://youtu.be/CHZ5O0jTH8A

https://youtu.be/lmROfjgViLE

https://youtu.be/p8lKQMEYYLw

https://youtu.be/FIgmsQOKnmk

https://youtu.be/kz-Bwi5xTTs

https://youtu.be/xUC_a-IMmGs

https://youtu.be/nLC4MA6_Oq0

https://youtu.be/MvNCWMD6so4

https://youtu.be/4IdMz8PkGZM

https://youtu.be/SeIHTCdOGWs

https://youtu.be/_c9M33FLH40

https://youtu.be/-03lh_tHMJ0

https://youtu.be/TiKYvUtpJXA

https://youtu.be/hC_KkLvG22A

https://youtu.be/ot-9R2GZxp8

https://youtu.be/TdYrgJrBFr0

https://youtu.be/-03lh_tHMJ0

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Regarding Birkeland currents:

https://www.tau.ac.il/~colin/courses/AtmosElec/Potemra%20ASS%20144.pdf

http://www.ptep-online.com/2015/PP-41-13.PDF

http://www.ptep-online.com/2018/PP-53-01.PDF

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/2016JA023789

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251427744_Antisunward_net_Birkeland_current_system_deduced_from_the_Oersted_satellite_observation

https://www.ann-geophys.net/26/499/2008/angeo-26-499-2008.pdf

https://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOAAJ/TOAAJ-4-191.pdf

https://backend.orbit.dtu.dk/ws/files/150063011/Laundal_et_al_2018_Journal_of_Geophysical_Research_3A_Space_Physics.pdf

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/a109/a643e309fa57d6c3146a753e0b817ae2f374.pdf

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/268156738_The_magnitudes_of_the_regions_1_and_2_Birkeland_currents_observed_by_AMPERE_and_their_role_in_solar_wind-magnetosphere-ionosphere_coupling

https://opensky.ucar.edu/islandora/object/articles:16940/datastream/PDF/view

http://www.issibern.ch/teams/fieldaligncurrents/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/ISSI_FACs_2014.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/user/ThunderboltsProject/search?query=birkeland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AUA7XS0TvA

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And OP, before you have a kneejerk reaction to this due to the word "flood" -- the Electric Universe completely rejects Christianity/Judaism/Islam. They're very much against religion. One of the main "representatives" (if he can be called that - there are no real leaders, just some people who are more prominent/vocal), Wal Thornhill, repeatedly calls the Bible story nonsense and says the Christians "creation of the world" is equally as ridiculous as the "Big Bang" story, and that the latter is just a religious rewrite and should be dismissed (for many solid scientific reasons). So don't jump to the conclusion that the EU folks are pro-Christianity in any way just because they're against mainstream science aka "consensus science" (the truth isn't found by a vote).

>EU-related copypasta about "the flood" below:

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[part 1]

This is what the caused the flood:

It all has to do with the water which was pulled towards the North Pole during the Saturnian configuration. When the "pull" on that water ceased, it flooded basically the whole planet.

Due to Saturn’s polar position in the heavens, a mound of water had formed at the north pole due to Saturn’s gravitational effect (in the same way that the Moon today affects tides but in a stationary way and much more dramatic). The sudden flaring of Saturn disrupted this gravitational pull and released the mound of water, which then spread out over the northern hemisphere in a cataclysmic deluge.

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>>11511110

[part 2]

Pic: mammoths in a warm tropical-like Siberia caught in the deluge created by the collapse of the water mound previously held up at the north pole by Saturn's gravitational pull. An intense Birkeland current can be seen amidst enhanced auroral activity. It stretches up to the flaring Saturn as the mammoths' nocturnal world comes to a brightly-lit end.

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>>11511115

[part 3]

Due to the twisting nature of the Birkeland current connecting Earth with its polar sun, a giant hurricane-like event was manifested at the north pole. Replacing the previous mound of accumulated water, this swirling mass of plasma made things worse by sucking up vast amounts of remaining water into the atmosphere only to send it crashing back down to earth with every future disruption of Earth’s electrical link to Saturn.

The resulting deluges plagued those species living at the higher latitudes of the northern hemisphere. The twisting and intensified Birkeland current connecting Earth with Saturn produced a polar vortex while creating dense auroral activity around the Arctic circle. The encroaching light from the Sun added a greener spectrum of light reaching the earth's surface, which started the process of changing Earth's vegetation to a predominantly green hue. Humans on Earth experienced night and day for the first time. Add to this a sudden and heavier change in Earth’s gravity due to the electrical changes in the flaring Saturn, and you have the first of a series of major extinction events for the larger and now much more heavier species of the planet. Those unable to adapt to a non-nocturnal environment also came under pressure to survive.

At this same time the continued aurora-like plasma activity at the Earth’s north pole began to manifest itself into a stairway of light, seen as a tapering beam of translucent light reaching all the way up to the flaring Saturn.

>> No.11511138

>>11510982
Electric universe apologists are people who are scared of relativity because they're too stupid to understand it.

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>>11511118
pic related is just one of the many (there was much much much more than this which changed) geographical features which changed on Earth during the unstable periods of the Polar Configuration, during the breakup of it.

OP, see also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7EAlTcZFwY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRV1e5_tB6Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34wtt2EUToo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AUA7XS0TvA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oophJNlP-fk

Oh and OP and to any lurkers who are reading this, I'll give you an important protip which very few of the "EU proponents" will give you (because most of them aren't aware) -- you can 100% disregard Velikovsky and remove him from the equation. He was a Jew (and he was extremely pro-Zionist) who stole all of "his" ideas from other authors who had written very very similar things decades before him, like Comyns Beaumount for example. He basically copied and pasted and plagiarized other authors, and presented it all as if it was all his ideas. The mainstream newsmedia and science publications, during the 70s, focused in on him and ignored the authors he stole from, and elevated him to celebrity status. They also used him as a sort of straw man to attack, as a figurehead, as a character to assassinate (and he deserved that; not because the ideas he re-presented were wrong (some of them were) but because he was a deceptive plagiarizing faggot), in order to ridicule any opponents to "consensus science" and uniformitarian view of the solar system. The reason the "EU" today mention him frequently is exactly because of his celebrity status, because many people know about him, while almost nobody recognizes the names of the authors he stole everything from). So they're kind of forced to bring him up occasionally.

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The Non-Existance of the Black Hole and The Total Failure of General Relativity: https://files.catbox.moe/b3aur6.pdf

Pic is unrelated to the above. It's plasma formations discovered by Anthony Peratt at the Los Alamos National Laboratory. These (and others) exact formations were then discovered on ancient rock-art. This discovery, that the exact same, very specific formations, which can only exist in the sky under very specific circumstances, shocked Peratt (he wasn't pro-EU, he was just a plasma-physicist who didn't know about the EU at all) and is one of the many pieces of evidence which proves the EU's "version" of Earth's history is much more correct than the "standard" one.

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>> No.11511170

>>11511096
Nigga you expect me to watch all your YouTube videos??

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>>11511166
This particular plasma formation (this pic) would've released huge amounts of Synchrotron radiation, which would've likely killed a lot of people.

Some videos related to this pic and the previous formations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBVFClsXJII

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e0ivLlsE0w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piKuO4YeRFQ

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>>11511170
Nope.

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The ancient day-night cycle. This perfectly explains all the inconsistencies and weirdness found in the Egyptian description of how the day and night appeared.

>> No.11511199

>>11511192
Very related:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1waBD1ZDnoU&list=PLwOAYhBuU3UeFB-ygaH63Seg6r6C_dtqB&index=17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVpXKAG0FQ0&list=PLwOAYhBuU3UeFB-ygaH63Seg6r6C_dtqB&index=12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4-9Rx3gMNA&list=PLwOAYhBuU3UeFB-ygaH63Seg6r6C_dtqB&index=13

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5O_gSguEMo&list=PLwOAYhBuU3UeFB-ygaH63Seg6r6C_dtqB&index=14

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>>11511189
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>> No.11511209

Gravity explained: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkWiBxWieQU

>> No.11511217 [DELETED] 

some animations:

>> No.11511224

Some animations which help us understand what was seen in the sky:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVuf1xmpsw8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cUszkX7Lpk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHhMcsfIc1w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP1dri8J7xc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmlcbeFUHLw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF9uiahPdLk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFcHsqUdv6Y

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https://youtu.be/7d6Fhjzcj1U?t=341

pic = the Grand Canyon (which is tiny in comparison to Valles Marineris btw)

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>>11511258
>Coordinates:
39.786053, -109.224200

Gotta go guys, sorry - that's all the redpills you'll get from me today.

>> No.11511274

>>11511110
dude take your fucking meds holy shit

>> No.11511285

why do the schizo threads get the most posts on this board?

>> No.11511510

>>11511285
they have nothing better to do

>> No.11511543

i literally cant understand nothing of what you have poster, could you please post more, use simpler language, and most importantly, post more pictures?

>> No.11511547

>>11511178

>southward towards earth

These fucks serious?

>> No.11511552

>>11511192
This is approaching time-cube levels of bullshit.

>> No.11511563

>>11511274
>when you have no counter-argument, resort to claiming your opponent is crazy and keep repeating it
Saul Alinsky would be proud of you.

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>>11511547
Thinking difficulties? Saturn was above the north pole of the Earth, not the south pole. Hence the plasma filaments (which is simply birkeland currents in glow mode) stretching towards the Earth were flowing south.

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sage
Here's the most important overall shape, the most important "structure", the most important sight ever seen by humanity. It's ingrained deep into our subconscious mind.

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Here's the most important overall shape, the most important "structure", the most important sight ever seen by humanity. It's ingrained deep into our subconscious mind.

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>> No.11511668

>>11511042
Stfu pantifa

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>> No.11511813

Oh boy we've got a certified schizo in the thread.

>> No.11512102

>>11511075
https://www.google.com/search?q=tesla+electric+universe&oq=tesla+electric+universe

>> No.11512115

>>11511096
>"Black holes" violate Einstein's Relativity theories, yet in the "settled science" religion they simultaneously believe in (((Relativity))). And "Black holes" (as defined by the "black hole" believers themselves) can't exist in a Big Bang universe, yet they simultaneously believe in the Big Bang. And by the official "black hole" """science""" there can't be multiple "black holes" in the same universe, yet they believe there are. 100% schizo.
None of this is true what the fuck are you taking about

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>>11511617
>>11511623
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>>11511638
>>11511643
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>>11511672
>>11511676
You do realize that in order for the saturn was the sun shit to be real, the earth would have had to be flat, so that the same night sky would be visible to the whole planet at the same time.
Otherwise when one half of the sphere of the earth say saturn in the sky the other half wouldn't be able to see it because they'd be on the other side of the earth.

>> No.11512223

>>11512115
He's one off the retards this article is about: http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~hooft101/gravitating_misconceptions.html

>> No.11512515

>>11511573
There is no south in space. It's not a thinking difficulty, it's a matter of spacial practicality.
Planar directional navigation doesn't work, accurately or practically, in large-scale volumetric universe navigation; it only works in localized navigation of planar surfaces....like a map for instance.

>> No.11512729

>>11511080
I loath people like you. Why do you always have to construct a us vs them mentality?

>> No.11514546

>>11511617
are you going tell us about the pleiades next?

>> No.11514552

>>11512729
The entirety of academia is us vs them bullshit.

>> No.11516017

electric universe people can't understand this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jJ5PPcLUw8