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jusdaflu Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:03:08 2020 No.11504323 [Reply] [Original]

The United States of America has just reached the #1 spot in the number of infected and the #6 spot in the number of deaths with more than a thousand dead.

That is all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:39:03 2020 No.11504399 >>11504323 USA! USA! USA!

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:44:27 2020 No.11504408 >>11504323 Everybody sane was saying for months now that USA will be a fucking disaster. What will happen in states will change the world.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:46:05 2020 No.11504410 >A virus has all the properties and requirements to be defined as life >"It's not living DURR" ok

MrCrummy Thu Mar 26 17:48:18 2020 No.11504411

>>11504323
>china stops reporting new cases 3 weeks ago and kicks all american media out of the country
>blocks people in the country from communicating with others outside the country
>it's cool guys we fixed it
Ok yeah

Also
>giving total numbers instead of per capita
I thought this was /sci/?
Are you guys also as retarded as pol?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:48:22 2020 No.11504412 USA #1 USA #1 USA #1 USA #1 USA #1 USA #1

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:48:40 2020 No.11504413 File: 225 KB, 657x527, 1515027125107.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11504323

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:49:01 2020 No.11504415 America always #1

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:50:48 2020 No.11504417 >>11504411 This has per 1 million https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

>>	MrCrummy Thu Mar 26 17:52:13 2020 No.11504421 >>11504417 And when you look at per 1 mil, you see how far behind countries like Italy we are, they are doing 5x worse than us still.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:52:27 2020 No.11504422 >>11504323 reported cases are irrelevant. Imperial College retards already went back on their death estimates.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:52:28 2020 No.11504423 >>11504323 Pension funds rejoicing as we speak >No payouts

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:54:06 2020 No.11504429 >>11504422 They didn't Read the New Scientist source article IN FULL Stop browsing pol levels of stupidiity

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:54:14 2020 No.11504431 >>11504323 Our per capita deaths are lower than the UK.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:56:17 2020 No.11504441 >>11504421 Actually they're ahead. You should see the numbers get worse with a lag time of about 2 weeks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:58:00 2020 No.11504444 File: 100 KB, 624x496, weww.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11504323 >boomers and people health insurance providers want dead

>>	MrCrummy Thu Mar 26 17:58:39 2020 No.11504446 >>11504441 >actually they're ahead But how can you know that unless you can see the future?

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:59:44 2020 No.11504450

>>11504421
That is, because the US is at the very start of its outbreak. Compare the number of cases to the number of recovered cases and you can get an idea how far along a country is. Italy's curve has gone from exponential to linear just now and they are like 2 weeks ahead of the US .

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:00:18 2020 No.11504451 >>11504429 So we are in the middle of a pissing match between Oxford and Imperial. Ferguson sounds like one of those hurricane experts that keep revising their predictions throughout hurricane season.

>>	MrCrummy Thu Mar 26 18:00:56 2020 No.11504453 >>11504450 Demographics of the US and the healthcare system of the US are totally different from Italy, you have no idea what things will look like in 2 weeks. You can sperg all you want, you still don't know lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:02:10 2020 No.11504456 >>11504446 It's a prediction and a common trend that 2 weeks later you either have recoveries or deaths. Unless something amazing happens in the US you'll surpass Italy by mid April. Better hope those Trump pills works.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:06:51 2020 No.11504465

>>11504453
People who want things to look bad are extrapolating based on Italy. People who wants things to look good are extrapolating based on Germany.
Right now, the US is looking very good in terms of per capita deaths. We have a much larger population than the UK, Spain, Italy, Belgium, etc. But we only have 1100 deaths.
But in one week the US could have over 20000 deaths. The next few days will answer all these questions.

MrCrummy Thu Mar 26 18:07:05 2020 No.11504466

>>11504456
Ok, so we should just do what china does and weld people inside apartment towers and roll tanks down the streets?
Is this what you want?
Also, refer to >>11504453
We don't have the same demographics or medical system as italy, so how the FUCK can you try and make a direct correlation to them?
Are you retarded or just intentionally dishonest?

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:07:52 2020 No.11504470

>>11504451
First point yes and just in the FT letters page Epidemiologists have pissed back on the Oxford autists

Second point no;

If you actually read where everyone is sperging him out on, he states in the ORIGINAL paper:

>Do nothing = 250k-500k
>Do full/close tonear suppression = 20k deaths

He is saying we are closer now to the latter
That isn't a revision but an update as and when his papers team's recommendations are applied

His views on the economy are because the gov are leaning on him

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:09:42 2020 No.11504475

>>11504453
The US will:
>Cover it up
>Go full double down retard when the deaths accclearate
>Justify the deaths
>Blame commies
>Blame socilalism
>Blame China
>Blame Dems
>Blame Muslims
>Blame Jews
>Blame Europe
>Blame Africa
>Blame Unions
>Blame doctors
>Blame hospitals
>Blame Journalists
>Blame media

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:10:31 2020 No.11504477

>>11504466
South Korea and America got their first confirmed case on the same date.

South Korea immediatley closed everything, tracked people who had potentially caught it and effectively quarantine those people.

America quickly begun heated debates over if closing the borders would be racist and hugging Asian people to show how they're good people.

>>	MrCrummy Thu Mar 26 18:10:41 2020 No.11504478 >>11504475 Ok, so you're taking the latter option, sperging. Trump derangement syndrome, everyone take a look and laugh.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:11:43 2020 No.11504481 >>11504444 This tweet can't be real.

MrCrummy Thu Mar 26 18:12:03 2020 No.11504483

>>11504477
>America quickly begun heated debates over if closing the borders would be racist and hugging Asian people to show how they're good people.
You can thank liberals who are too scared of offending people for this, and the fact that you have personal freedoms and are able to travel unrestricted.
Do you prefer restrictions?
Do you want freedom or death?
refer to >>11504466
Shall I weld you inside?
Does this satisfy you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:12:50 2020 No.11504487 >>11504465 new york and florida fucking deserves it

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:15:29 2020 No.11504492 File: 49 KB, 345x383, 1392686450125.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >amerifats

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:15:52 2020 No.11504494

>>11504483
The only way this virus spreads right now is human to human. Infected human cannot infect uninfected human if you're not close enough to do it.

Also you demographics are irrelevent as evidence of the virus currently making its way through Africa.

>>	MrCrummy Thu Mar 26 18:17:01 2020 No.11504496 >>11504494 >demographics are irrelevant What? Did you not pay attention to Italy at all? Demographics are HUGE

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:23:06 2020 No.11504518 >>11504477 You're also forgetting the factor that Americans are amongst the developed world's most scientifically illiterate people.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:24:35 2020 No.11504525 I had a fellowship for MIT and was supposed to go there next month. Fuck you all for fucking this up.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:24:38 2020 No.11504526

>>11504478
I said
>The US
Which includes Trump for sure but actually includes the US intel and corporate revolving door corrupt elite in both politics and finance.

The fact that you reflexively went
>It's Muh opposition saying Orange man bad.
shows you should have never left /ptg/

So yes, cap this, when the deaths escalate to a record never before seen, what do you think the US will blame it all on?

>>	MrCrummy Thu Mar 26 18:25:37 2020 No.11504528 >>11504475 >>11504477 >>11504492 >>11504518 >>11504494 Am I on leftypol? These posts are literally just shit flinging and hate covered in assumptions and bias. You aren't even refuting the solid points I'm making.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:25:45 2020 No.11504530 >>11504496 Demographics are the best We have THE BEST demographics I Have seen them and they are INCREDIBLE

>>	MrCrummy Thu Mar 26 18:27:01 2020 No.11504534 >>11504530 refer to >>11504528 >>11504526 >cap this Ok, give me an email so I can send it to you later, or put on a tripcode.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:28:26 2020 No.11504540

>>11504528
Please echo which point you wish to make it
>Anyone that disagrees with me is commie leftypol JIDF shill

The US has decided ultimately, that it places the safeguarding of it's economy above people and will allow the pandemic to take place at the federal level more so than any other country.

What effect this will have is debatable; I err on the evidence so far from a variety of countries and current figures and contend that when the deaths pile up, the US establishment will never apologise or take responsibility for their litany of neglect in this situation

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:29:21 2020 No.11504545

>>11504453
Yes, demographics are different and are a huge factor.
Yes, medical system is different.
This will likely lead to a lower mortality rate than Italy. Probably closer to Germany. However, keep in mind that Germany is also only 3 weeks into this outbreak and is expected to have a rising cfr, because covid-19 patients seem to either recover or kick the bucket only after 3 weeks. So expect the german cfr to go up significantly within the next week.

However, proliferation is proceeding exponentially under the current US policy. The only countries able to curb the growth so far were China, South Korea, Taiwan and Japan.

Unless the US is following the example of one of these, the US will experience the same exponential growth as anyone else, which will only be stopped by either policy change or when it reaches a saturation point.

Even with a german cfr, you do not want to play dice with 60% of your population.

>>	MrCrummy Thu Mar 26 18:30:48 2020 No.11504552 >>11504540 >>Anyone that disagrees with me is commie leftypol JIDF shill I never said this, I said that you're not even refuting any points I make, you're just sperging saying USA #1 and >>11504530 this kind of crap. Give me an email already.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:30:52 2020 No.11504553 >>11504496 Maybe age but ethnicity no. If you have an older population you're a lot more fucked.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:31:00 2020 No.11504554 >>11504534 Just cap my post with your reply and name and post it in July.

>>	MrCrummy Thu Mar 26 18:32:12 2020 No.11504562 >>11504545 >This will likely lead to a lower mortality rate than Italy. Probably closer to Germany. So what you're saying is that US is on par with one of the most tame countries being affecting by covid19 as of now? I'm still requesting an email.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:32:45 2020 No.11504564

>>11504552
No glowie.
Stop asking for e-mails
What is your central point? That evidence points to this pandemic response not resulting in potentially ginormous amounts of preventable deaths in the US and that the establishments are allowing to stave off medicare and pension liabilities?
It's not sperging, it's banter.

>>	MrCrummy Thu Mar 26 18:33:13 2020 No.11504566 >>11504554 How can I be sure you'll see it? Are you here every day, will you even come forward if you are wrong? What incentive do you have to come forward and admit that you were wrong?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:33:47 2020 No.11504570 >>11504545 Japan literally reported in Tokyo especially, 2nd day of big rises

>>	MrCrummy Thu Mar 26 18:34:20 2020 No.11504571 >>11504564 >he doesn't have multiple tiers of emails with some being throw away and easily sharable and some being business or personal related Why are you even on 4chan? Try reddit apparently.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:35:59 2020 No.11504577

>>11504566
I will visit on or after the 4th of July.
I will admit I am wrong on the proviso

>The deaths are not at that time accelerating
>The deaths have not surpassed other comparative nations by then as a percentage of the population and/or confirmed cases
>There is no cover-up by US authorities.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:37:11 2020 No.11504580 >>11504571 Downvoted this post.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:39:55 2020 No.11504592

>>11504562
Look, dude. I am not that other guy, which seems to be rustling your jimmies.
>So what you're saying is that US is on par with one of the most tame countries being affecting by covid19 as of now?
I'm still requesting an email.
Correct. SO FAR, the US is doing ok. But do you really want to take your chances of dying just so you can keep going to the tiddy bars?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:42:16 2020 No.11504596 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bE68xVXf8Kw Video from New York hospital.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:42:30 2020 No.11504597

>>11504545
>The only countries able to curb the growth so far were China
>China
>curb the growth
Please don't tell me you believe their bullshit. They have been lying to the world from the very beginning, way back in Oct. 2019. The 80k cases is a complete lie.

MrCrummy Thu Mar 26 18:42:39 2020 No.11504598

>>11504592
>But do you really want to take your chances of dying just so you can keep going to the tiddy bars?
?
All non essential businesses have closed, there are no titty bars open.
I haven't ate out in over 2 weeks, and I haven't been hanging out with large groups and I carry lysol wipes with me.
I don't know what you want, tell me, what measures are considered reasonable to you.
Tell me exactly what measures should be taken, and how aggressive we should be.
Outline it for me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:42:59 2020 No.11504601 >>11504323 OH FOR FUCK SAKE WE WERE CLOSE TO BE NUMBER ONE FOR ONCE

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:45:13 2020 No.11504607 >>11504323 NOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE HECKIN BOOMERINOS!!!!!!! A COUPLE NURSING HOME PATIENTS ARE GOING TO DIE 3 WEEKS BEFORE THEY WOULD HAVE DIED NATURALLY WE NEED TO SHUT DOWN THE ENTIRE ECONOMY NOWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:46:24 2020 No.11504610 >>11504607 Cringe.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:49:40 2020 No.11504615

>>11504598
Basically do exactly what Taiwan or South Korea is doing. Basically lock the whole country down for a month. It seems to work so far.

>>11504597
The measures they have allegedly taken make sense for limiting the proliferation of the virus. If those should not be effective in containing it, we are all fucked to hell and back. Whether I believe their numbers or not is not important.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:50:37 2020 No.11504616 >>11504607 nobody cares about the nursing home vegetables. If this was just a flu, then why are so many dying in Italy?

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:55:59 2020 No.11504627

>>11504615
Fair enough, but the measure China took were done way too late. The virus has spread throughout their entire country and their actual case and death numbers are probably 100 times higher. They haven't curbed anything, the virus just burnt itself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:57:23 2020 No.11504634 This is gonna get much worse isn't it?

>>	MrCrummy Thu Mar 26 18:58:37 2020 No.11504637 >>11504615 You realize how much smaller SK is than the US? It's an entirely different ball game, our country dwarfs theirs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:59:38 2020 No.11504638 >>11504323 Well we know China has at last 40k more cases that they're not counting because they didn't have enough symptoms despite a positive test, but the U.S. is going to keep climbing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:05:36 2020 No.11504656 >>11504634 maybe. I’m concerned for Brazil.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:09:13 2020 No.11504663

>>11504528
You're the one sperging about per capita deaths. It isn't just about how many % of the people of your country have died, the world is not some grand strategy game where you can afford 20,000 people dying because they're a small part of your population. Of course 80,000 cases and 8,000 deaths in Italy are even more alarming when you take into consideration the demographics of the country, but that doesn't mean that having thousands of deaths is ok as long as your country is big.
America has over 1,000 deaths and counting. There are thousands of people yet to die in the US, but it's ok because they're not many deaths per capita.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:09:54 2020 No.11504666

>>11504441
>Actually they're ahead. You should see the numbers get worse with a lag time of about 2 weeks.
Go back two weeks and look at Italy's numbers. 15,113 cases, 1,016 deaths. They were already at a 6.7% mortality rate, pretty much the worst in the world. The USA is still at 1.4%. Italy was also testing about 5k people a day as of a few days ago, and probably much less weeks ago. The USA is now testing 40k a day. Italy has around 7 ICU beds per 1k people, the USA has 36 ICU beds per 1k. The USA will get worse, but I don't see it ending up at Italy's level.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:11:00 2020 No.11504669 >>11504615 >Basically do exactly what Taiwan or South Korea is doing. Basically lock the whole country down for a month. It seems to work so far. South Korea and Taiwan never shut down.

MrCrummy Thu Mar 26 19:13:08 2020 No.11504676

>>11504663
Are you retarded?
Sincerely, you're literally saying to ignore the only thing that makes statistics work?
Let me get this straight, you'd like to throw statistics aside and rely strictly on emotional arguments?
Is this really what you're saying?
I'll say it again, are you retarded or just intentionally dishonest?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:36:22 2020 No.11504720 >>11504666 America is a third world country with a few rich ologarchs. I'd say track the amount of rich people who die, if any.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:37:43 2020 No.11504721 >>11504720 >I'd say track the amount of rich people who die, if any. Shouldn't be hard, it will certainly be plastered all over the news if a famous person dies from it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:39:29 2020 No.11504723 It's not as bad as Italy, but America has already fucked up at every step, so I wouldn't be surprised if one by one states follow Italy's fate.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:44:01 2020 No.11504731 >>11504723 not bad yet. its just the beginning ..

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:45:14 2020 No.11504733 >>11504723 >so I wouldn't be surprised if one by one states follow Italy's fate. NYC sure as hell will, they're screwed, but I think most states will be fine.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:47:19 2020 No.11504740

>>11504627
You might actually be legit retarded. China was blocking routes like 2 days after they confirmed the first cases. You think they weren't ready for another SARS outbreak? Most of their epidemiologist still have nightmares from those days. Same with Korea. Those Asian countries have been burned plenty to not be playing around. I've been hearing for months people saying how they overreacted over a flu, but when this disease starts spreading like wild fire in the west, those same people say China was lying? Get your story right, my guy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:47:51 2020 No.11504742 >>11504740 >China was blocking routes like 2 days after they confirmed the first cases. You haven't been following the news, anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:48:01 2020 No.11504746 You can clearly see it here, where it came from, how it developed, and where it is going https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJaZLvqgBBk

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:50:40 2020 No.11504754 >>11504742 The first thing we heard about this disease was China overreacting. It's not like this was going for months and then one day they kind of decided to close a coffee shop here and there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:53:06 2020 No.11504764 >>11504610 Seethe. >>11504616 Old people are the only ones dying in Italy, like everywhere else

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 20:02:41 2020 No.11504786 File: 1.31 MB, 500x500, source22.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11504399 FPBP

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 20:05:11 2020 No.11504792

>>11504754
The first identified case was on December 6. By late December, Chinese labs had already isolated and identified the virus, but the CCP ordered them to hide or destroy the data and not tell anyone. They then proceeded to allow a Chinese New Year celebration in early January, during which 5 million people were allowed to leave Wuhan without screening. On January 23, China instituted its first quarantine. That quarantine came a month and a half after the first identified case, and after millions of people were allowed to leave Wuhan and spread the virus throughout China and other countries.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 20:12:09 2020 No.11504801

>>11504740
Chinese were still celebrating new year and slurping Pig semen soup while the virus was spreading.
>You think they weren't ready for another SARS outbreak?
Yes, they absolutely were not. They were more concerned with saving face than actually stopping the virus spread and treating the infected.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 20:18:59 2020 No.11504820 >>11504764 Old people are the ones dying, yes. But a lot of them were in relatively good health. These are people who would have probably lived several more years if they had gotten COVID-19.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 20:22:56 2020 No.11504834 >>11504820 Yeah, but they were old and probably had halitosis, so good riddance!

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 20:23:58 2020 No.11504837 >>11504801 This isn't Trump we are talking about here, bro.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 20:26:46 2020 No.11504843 >>11504323 What?! It went up from the 15? How is that possible? It's almost April!

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 20:29:08 2020 No.11504850

>>11504323
Nobody gives a fuck here. The weather was finally nice yesterday, so I took a walk with my wife yesterday and saw dozens of other people, many of whom were in groups of 4 or 5. People still go shopping and visit friends and most are just annoyed with the shutdowns and lay offs. Also >1000 deaths. Who fucking cares. People aren’t falling for the bullshit anymore. People are already sick of it and are willing to roll the dice

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 20:29:31 2020 No.11504853

>>11504837
See >>11504792. Had China acted at the end of December once they had isolated the virus and were aware of human-to-human transmission, they could have saved the world a lot of trouble. Instead, they hid the evidence, lied to the World Health Organization, and allowed millions to travel for Chinese New Year. By the time they started quarantining, it was too late to contain the virus.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 20:46:51 2020 No.11504884 >>11504323 >A lot of people have the flu Lol don’t care

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 20:47:54 2020 No.11504890 >>11504410 Wrong. Viruses don’t have cellular organization or a metabolism.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 20:50:37 2020 No.11504896 I expect the UN and Trump get together a push very huge sanctions on China. If the Winnie the Pooh doesn't comprehend the demands then WAR will be the last option and Trump is very tempting to unleash hell.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 20:51:19 2020 No.11504898 >>11504592 >But do you really want to take your chances of dying 0.2% for people under 40.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 20:52:21 2020 No.11504902 >>11504616 >If this was just a flu, then why are so many dying in Italy? The average age of the people dead in Italy is eighty goddamn years old.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 21:43:49 2020 No.11505019 >>11504456 It's a fucking cold you retard. Call me when it hits flu levels.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 21:45:27 2020 No.11505021 >>11504487 Florida is ok, you crypto nigger. High heat and high humidity will kill it.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 21:49:09 2020 No.11505023

>>11505019
>Call me when it hits flu levels.
By the time it does hit flu levels, it will be FAR too late to keep the death toll down to reasonable numbers. If we want to avoid mass deaths, we need to intervene *before* it hits that point, in full knowledge that it may turn out to be unnecessary in retrospect.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:07:32 2020 No.11505054 >>11504890 >this one arbitrary definition we tack on to the end for no reason >"heh, see? It's not life anymore. OWNED" okay retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:10:08 2020 No.11505056 >>11504896 Trump will get the guillotine by his own people by the end of the year

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:10:45 2020 No.11505057 >>11504723 >It's not as bad as Italy We don't know that. Look how it was in New York today

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:12:18 2020 No.11505060 >>11504723 It's already worse, we just have to wait two weeks for the bodies to appear.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:13:32 2020 No.11505062

Based boomer remover.
People are acting like this is a bad thing. The best years in the last century were after a good proportion of the population was wiped out.
The planet and society will be a far better place with these non-taxpaying dumb as fuck leeches gone.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:14:46 2020 No.11505066 >>11505062 >People are acting like this is a bad thing. It is and you'll be dead by then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:15:54 2020 No.11505069 >>11505062 Damn anon does your mom let you be this edgy on the internet?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:16:06 2020 No.11505070 >>11505062 Zoom Zoom back to /pol/ bitch.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:16:21 2020 No.11505072 File: 104 KB, 501x697, 1578080415394.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11505062 >aren't I edgy guys hahahaha

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:17:50 2020 No.11505076 so they finally started mass testing americans and this happens

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:22:11 2020 No.11505088 >>11505076 Mass testing doesn't mean shit if there aren't draconian measures in place.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:23:40 2020 No.11505093 >>11505076 Social Distancing and less testing is actually working.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:24:49 2020 No.11505097 >>11505054 Yeah I don’t like it either. It’s a bunch of arbitrary bullshit but that is how life is “defined”.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 23:50:00 2020 No.11505285

>>11504820
>ShItaly
1. shitty healthcare
2. 30% of population lifetime smokers (imagine the older generation rate)
3. They misreport how people die (dying WITH COVID19 =/= dying FROM COVID19)

The IFR is 0.3%-3.6% (dependant on healthcare burden and other factors), but it way too early to tell.

Swine flu initial CFR estimates were 0.1%-5.2% and you know what it ended up? 0.02%.

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 23:58:20 2020 No.11505310

>>11505285
Yeah we definitely expect the numbers to go down once more is known. However pretending this is 'just the flu' or 'just like swine flu' is inaccurate and helps nobody. Republicans want everyone to believe it's no big deal so they go back to work and the economy does well so the orange clown can get reelected in November. So they will lie and spread misinformation as much as humanly possible in order to keep the economy doing well because they do not give a shit how many people die, all they care about is the stock market and being reelected in November. They have been lying from the fucking beginning because the only thing Republican news channels know how to do anymore is lie their asses off to make Republicans look good and Democrats look bad.

Well guess what, this time they can't lie their way out of this because people are sick and dying.

You can't hide the fact that hospitals are getting overwhelmed already and we're in the early days of this pandemic. Lie your way out of this one assholes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 00:04:13 2020 No.11505331 >>11505310 >They have been lying from the fucking beginning https://youtu.be/xfPk1HIBLfM

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 00:07:19 2020 No.11505334 >>11505285 >shitty healthcare It was good, but that doesn't matter when the hospitals get overrun.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 00:12:44 2020 No.11505349 >>11505285 Ok I will give yo points 2 and 3 but Italy does NOT have shitty healthcare. They have advanced ICUs that can provide the same care we can. They have ECMO, all the transfusion services, etc.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 01:14:26 2020 No.11505492

>>11504323
Greetings from Europe congratulations on your case win.
Still got you in death toll though. You're going to have to hit those retirement centers better, like we did Italy which is practically retired old people central, that's how we got our best numbers in.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 02:23:46 2020 No.11505611

>>11505019
so next week?
flus the last 5 years have been pretty fucking shitty not including things like this swine flu covid, H1N1, bla bla bla, hosptitilizations for flus were already higher than normal and pneumonia cases were already high with the flu season that was about to end, this crap plus long expousure a weakened immune system is pretty much instant pneumonia

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 02:25:38 2020 No.11505615 >>11505066 >>11505069 >>11505070 its pretty much destroying every other business with a dogshit business model that runs on lying to investors

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 04:44:10 2020 No.11505872 >>11504481 it's real kek https://twitter.com/NYCHealthCommr/status/1226508570646269954

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 04:45:00 2020 No.11505873 >>11504323 It's a 3rd world country after all

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 04:50:25 2020 No.11505882 >>11504323 >italy never got to be first despite being so close

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 04:51:27 2020 No.11505884 >>11504410 >A virus has all the properties and requirements to be defined as life wrong

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 04:56:22 2020 No.11505888 >>11504494 >right now

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:00:25 2020 No.11505895 >>11504820 >These are people who would have probably lived several more years several more years of sitting in a nursing home surrounded by demented wrinkly tards

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:02:37 2020 No.11505898 >>11505066 >>11505069 >>11505070 >seething ""young"" 39yo mom

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:04:43 2020 No.11505899 >>11505310 >implying there will be elections in november

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:09:17 2020 No.11505909 >>11505054 >take a virus >put it under the microscope >completely inert, literally does nothing at all >life

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:10:45 2020 No.11505910 >>11505909 >put a plant under a microscope >it's not like an animal, so it's not a living creature! If it reproduces, it's alive. Nothing that isn't alive reproduces

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:11:46 2020 No.11505912 >>11505910 Plants move. You’re a retard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:15:31 2020 No.11505915 File: 37 KB, 398x376, 1584746099178.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11504323 China's fw They observe amerimutts Cases to Recovered ratio. That's just abyssmal.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:20:49 2020 No.11505922 >>11505910 >If it reproduces it doesn't dummy what part >completely inert, literally does nothing at all you don't understand

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:22:22 2020 No.11505924 >>11505912 they do, more than you probably

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:25:31 2020 No.11505926 >>11504410 >Off-topic from OP >Divisive opinion >Ad hominem Ladies and gentlemen, take notes. This is a Russian disinformation troll. This is how they operate.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:34:13 2020 No.11505935

>>11504663
Do you really think that there is some magical combination of policy decisions (besides having completely closed the border to international travel from China back in December when this story was developing) which would have stopped this? People die. Pandemics happen. There's decisions that can be made to mitigate things but you're talking about at best marginal reduction strategies. Unfortunately we live in an actual natural reality, not some autistic simulation and bad things happen even if 100% of all possible "good decisions" are made. The United States should have locked down travel months ago, and probably shouldn't have ever relied on a globalized "just in time" market strategy to the point that such massive international travel is necessary for resources to move, but that didn't happen.

>>11504540
Safeguarding the economy is safeguarding the people to a massive extent you collosal retard. There's no amount of universal healthcare and test availability that will help you if the floor falls out from the economy and grocery stores can't get food because nobody can afford to employ people who make stocking goods logistically possible. The economy collapsing would be a more significant disaster in terms of loss of life in the US than 10 times the mortality rate of the Wuhan flu. You fucking retards have no God damn clue how fucking fragile the supply lines for essential goods and services are in the West, and the governments just do not have the muscle or logistical power necessary to continue them in the absence of the market were it to collapse rapidly.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:37:27 2020 No.11505939

>>11504615
The entirety of South Korea is smaller than New York state. Good fucking luck bro. You just can't logistically manage that. Any lock down you'd try there would be literally no way to enforce unless you were literally willing to shoot people who broke it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:39:11 2020 No.11505942 >>11505935 cope t. Tl;dr

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:41:21 2020 No.11505946

>>11505915
You mean the country that has done nothing but lie about their mortality and case rate and then threaten/kill people who attempt to show the world that they are lying about it? Yeah, the US has so much to fear about their opinion of how we're going to handle it. If anything China is making that face because the US has outsourced so much manufacturing to China that major services in the US are limited because of low Chinese supply.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:43:11 2020 No.11505952 >>11505942 What does cope even mean in that circumstance you literal retard? I'm explaining to you how you don't know what you're talking about, not coping with something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:46:39 2020 No.11505954 >>11505946 >>11505952 c0pe harder poltard

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 06:02:43 2020 No.11505974 >>11505922 It just needs the right conditions. Tardigrades go into deep hibernation too but we don't say they're not living creatures at that point

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 06:07:22 2020 No.11505981 >>11505974 >deep hibernation wtf are u even talking about retard, look up viruses and kys already

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 06:16:24 2020 No.11505994

>>11505054
You think that the entire scientific community, is, what, prejudiced against virii? They're not alive, because they can't reproduce, don't have metabolism, and don't have structure.

They're literally just a box of RNA with a drill on one side, the RNA being blueprints to build more RNA-drill-boxes. The cells finds the RNA and uses its own machines to build more virus from the blueprints.

Is fire alive? It grows, reproduces, arguably has a metabolism, etc. . All the signs of life. but, no cellular structure, so maybe it's just a physical phenomenon. Maybe the scientific community just hates fire and is retards.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 06:22:25 2020 No.11506004 >>11505994 virii is not a word

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 06:23:15 2020 No.11506006

>>11505935
You answered your own question. Ban flights. It was that easy, but the thanks to the retards at WHO globalism incorporated, we are butt fucked to the utmost extreme. CCP has proven time and again that they are not forward-thinking in the slightest, and they care more about their image than the well-being of countries that support them.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 06:28:51 2020 No.11506013

>>11505935
>You fucking retards have no God damn clue how fucking fragile the supply lines for essential goods and services are in the West, and the governments just do not have the muscle or logistical power necessary to continue them in the absence of the market were it to collapse rapidly.
Yes, but that's not the problem, and it's not at risk of collapse: what's really risking a collapse is everything around it. A nation-wide lockdown of all non-essential services means that people eventually will run out of money to buy food, but up until that point the stores will have those primary goods available, not the other way around.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 06:46:09 2020 No.11506032 >>11504323 still relatively low on the list when it's per-capita, you fucking smelly RETARD

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 06:50:58 2020 No.11506038 >>11504890 >A self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution. Dumbass https://astrobiology.nasa.gov/research/life-detection/about/

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 08:53:31 2020 No.11506232

>>11504615
>The measures they have allegedly taken make sense for limiting the proliferation of the virus
How would you know that if the numbers are not believable?
Maybe China really couldn't 'curb the growth' and only have lower new cases because everyone and their mom already got it

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 10:26:13 2020 No.11506383

>>11506013
I'm not sure where you live but stores have been out of many essential goods for almost two weeks now but yes that will be a problem too. The lack of work leads to lack of money which leads to lack of spending which leads to lack of stock which just spirals downward.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 10:29:24 2020 No.11506391

>>11506006
Let's slam the barn door as hard as we can now that all the sheep have gotten out. Certainly that will fix the problem. International flights should have been banned in December. Flight and travel restrictions won't do a damn thing at this point except in states that don't have exposure yet. Those states should take a "fuck off we're full" approach but for NY to stop flights now is really two months too late to do a damn thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 10:32:31 2020 No.11506394 File: 57 KB, 600x600, 1585228856884.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11505926 >Russians trying to deflect from a panic inducing topic rather than promoting it Your average redditbot ladies and gentlemen

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 10:33:43 2020 No.11506397 >>11504465 This.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 10:37:07 2020 No.11506404 >>11506391 Thanks for attempting to read my post, but now you're preaching to the choir. Did you miss the part where I said we're fucked? If a bunch of retards on /pol/ knew it back in early January, then the WHO sure knew it too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 10:38:34 2020 No.11506407 >>11505994 >They're not alive, because they can't reproduce, don't have metabolism, and don't have structure. Arbitrary requirements for “Life”. You’re arguing about definitions because you’re a retard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 10:39:35 2020 No.11506410 >>11506038 >Look guys NASA uses a different definition of life than actual biologists

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 10:40:36 2020 No.11506412 >>11506404 >Did you miss the part where I said we're fucked? We’re not, but do please continue lying because you’re a depressed schizo who can’t wait to be dead.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 10:43:50 2020 No.11506417

>>11506394
And as for you, you came in at post #3 with something completely irrelevant to the topic. A Russian troll/bot is characteristic for using divide and conquer tactics. By bringing up completely off-topic opinions, you can derail entire conversations and devolve a thread into ad-hominem.
You refuse to bring up any evidence that you are not trolling, and your best response is essentially "no u." I also applaud your attempt to shift the conversation toward whether Russians would promote a panic-inducing topic or not.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 10:49:35 2020 No.11506425
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>>11506417

>And as for you, you came in at post #3 with something completely irrelevant to the topic. A Russian troll/bot is characteristic for using divide and conquer tactics. By bringing up completely off-topic opinions, you can derail entire conversations and devolve a thread into ad-hominem.
>You refuse to bring up any evidence that you are not trolling, and your best response is essentially "no u." I also applaud your attempt to shift the conversation toward whether Russians would promote a panic-inducing topic or not.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 10:54:37 2020 No.11506433 File: 29 KB, 279x304, 1204083119.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11506425 >proving me right

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 11:04:36 2020 No.11506444 >>11506407 viruses are as alive as a sheet of paper with crap written on it

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 11:06:40 2020 No.11506447 File: 11 KB, 600x800, 1585179987647.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >proving me right

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 11:11:45 2020 No.11506453 >>11506447 >>11506425 >>11506394 Why are wojakshitters so fucking retarded?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 11:11:55 2020 No.11506455 >>11506410 >Biology is right because we say so Whatever

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 11:13:52 2020 No.11506457 >>11504323 >#1 spot in the number of infected because they do a lot of testing

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 11:15:41 2020 No.11506461 >>11506457 (((they)))

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 11:21:39 2020 No.11506471 File: 10 KB, 180x179, jowak.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11506453 Wojak-posting was once respectable.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 11:27:14 2020 No.11506489 >bad hair day Boris and his health secretary have corona-chan britbongs please stay safe

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 11:28:21 2020 No.11506494 File: 217 KB, 610x1096, funny mud pee.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11506489 funny mud pee

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 12:52:02 2020 No.11506618 >>11504323 we germans great at hiding the dead again

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 13:04:15 2020 No.11506651 File: 155 KB, 446x430, 1540394710012.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11504323 >we shut down human society for less than 1 mil. cases Worldwide God spare us from a cosmic event like an Asteroid, that will destroy humanity as a whole.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 13:14:22 2020 No.11506675 >>11504545 >China, South Korea, Taiwan and Japan. Put Singapore in Japan's place, Japan had an aversion to testing people because they didn't want to postpone the Olympics.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 13:59:31 2020 No.11506751 So Whatever happened to all of our bleeding edge organ growing pig farms? You know, the ones that pop sci has been praising for over a decade? Surely we should have the capabilities to grow replacement lungs by now

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 14:35:19 2020 No.11506815 >914 deaths in Italy This nightmare will never end.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 15:44:06 2020 No.11506965 >>11506815 Poor Italy.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 15:59:27 2020 No.11506992

>>11505935
>Safeguarding the economy is safeguarding the people to a massive extent you collosal retard.

Explain how not questioning, at this time, exactly
>what the current economy is
and
>How it best serves us
and
>Why should corporations and large government trough filled private enterprises and tax avoiding loophole scum peddlers on credit
and
>Banks

Deserve protecting?
Necxt you'll be telling me
>BUT MUH NO ALTERNATIVE

A gentle reminder; post the Depression era and WW2 era, gov in large debt STILL essentially constructed public beneficial protections, schemes and infrastructure.

Anon, I think your understanding of the economy, it's history and the confines of your knowledge of effect upon it is limited at best to /pol/

Now answer me this:
How much is stashed under lock and key of US Government security in tax havens?
Why is that laundered and often unscrupulous wealth and system
>Worth protecting
and why do you think the corporate captured government cannot bail citizens out and create anew?
US wise

> There's no amount of universal healthcare and test availability that will help you if the floor falls out from the economy and grocery stores can't get food because nobody can afford to employ people who make stocking goods logistically possible. The economy collapsing would be a more significant disaster in terms of loss of life in the US than 10 times the mortality rate of the Wuhan flu. You fucking retards have no God damn clue how fucking fragile the supply lines for essential goods and services are in the West, and the governments just do not have the muscle or logistical power necessary to continue them in the absence of the market were it to collapse rapidly.

Now we're cooking.
So what pillars do you think the economy rests on?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 16:02:08 2020 No.11506999 >>11506675 bingo

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 16:04:09 2020 No.11507004 >>11504850 >what is exponential growth. so we only quarantine old people or what?

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 16:26:42 2020 No.11507054

>>11506992
The current economy is a big bag of smoke with no fire, but it's a big bag of smoke that currently is the only thing keeping literally millions of people who are not capable of self-sustanence alive.

We can do public benefits, universal healthcare whatever. That's entirely possible, but even with a significant public safety net the US economy would have a significant degree of fragility due to its complete annihilation of the labor sector post WW2 in favor of corporate globalism. Universal healthcare wouldn't do a fucking thing to fix the problems that the US economy is going to face following this. The social programs wouldn't do a fucking thing because the US government doesn't have any ability to actually aggregate and manage resources. That's all just private in the US. Sticking a social program into that is nothing but a subsidy for existing corporate powers because now they know they have a guaranteed rent check in the mail.

What pillars do I think the US economy rests on? I think it rests on the back of corporations and media empires who have created a people with faith in this monstrosity that they fundamentally do not understand. Working to stabilize the economy is working to stabilize the people because that's literally all the US is at this point is a gigantic global shopping mall that people live on top of. There's no non-corporate food/essential goods distribution process in the US. An economy is all there fucking is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 16:32:25 2020 No.11507072 >>11507054 Though I disagree with some aspects of this, very decent summary of the current monstrosity of the machine. We disagree on the road ahead. We could discuss the US using dollar power to restructure but corruption is too endemic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 17:30:22 2020 No.11507196 >>11504837 >Orange man bad >China man good

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 18:01:23 2020 No.11507277

>>11504530
>>>11504496
>Demographics are the best
>We have THE BEST demographics
>I Have seen them and they are INCREDIBLE

>>11504530
>>>11504496
>Demographics are the best
>We have THE BEST demographics
>I Have seen them and they are INCREDIBLE

My Jew meter is running off the charts on this one boys.

His hooknose must be one for the Guinness book of world records.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 18:59:11 2020 No.11507436 >>11507277 >My Jew meter Surely you mean master

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 19:12:40 2020 No.11507460 >>11507436 >>>11507277 (You) >>My Jew meter >Surely you mean master nah its for detecting little rats trying to pose as humans.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 19:18:17 2020 No.11507472 >>11507460 What's your source?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 23:49:03 2020 No.11507949 >>11504465 If the rate of growth and pattern maintain 10k dead in 8-10 days in USA

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 23:59:59 2020 No.11507964
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1 in 7 americans have kidney disease: https://www.kidney.org/news/newsroom/factsheets/KidneyDiseaseBasics
1 in 2 american adults have some form of heart disease: https://www.google.com/search?q=number+of+americans+with+heart+disease&rlz=1C1ZCEB_enUS831US831&oq=number+of+americans+with+heart+disease&aqs=chrome..69i57.6815j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
2% of american adults have liver disease (most don't know it): https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/287565
1 in 7 americans have chronic lung disease: https://www.healthline.com/health/copd/facts-statistics-infographic#1
2 in 5 americans are obese: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm

The US is not healthier than Italy. We will also have the same if not worse problem of multiple comorbidity factors that Italy had despite age working for us (Median Age for US is 38.2 years, for Italy it is 45.8).

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 00:03:14 2020 No.11507973 File: 123 KB, 356x333, 1560970389253.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11506471 maybe one day it will be again

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 11:14:35 2020 No.11509148 >>11504607 3 months in and some people still believe it's only about the death of old people and not the oversaturation of ERs from people of any age who can't all get ventilators

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 11:23:08 2020 No.11509176 >virus targets old and weak >should we isolate just those people then? >lol no shut down the entire planet

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 13:48:19 2020 No.11509647
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>>11505939
South Korea also has nightmare tier population density, virtually no margin for error on the lock down, strategic lock downs here could be effective even if less all emcompassing but there's virtually no way to legally enforce them.

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 13:59:00 2020 No.11509686

>>11509176
>weak
The most common pre-existing condition in the US co-morbid with our deaths is obesity, which is just shy of 40% of our country, so isolating the weak when removing overlap with elderly would still be a massive isolation. Louisiana has triple the death rate of NJ, despite new jersey having(currently) more cases per captita and much higher population density, big difference is obesity is far more prevalent in LA. In fact expect this southern states to start sky rocketing with much higher death rates in general compared to the early outbreak states currently leading the totals.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 14:17:47 2020 No.11509743 >>11504411 >Are you guys also as retarded as pol? Niggers commit 50% of crime. This is per capita. Go away newfag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 15:17:36 2020 No.11509898 >>11504323 US: 1,177 / 82,261 Italy: 8,215 / 80,589 Other than an inconsistency between the actual and reported cases, what's the disparity here? Is it just that Italy has a higher population density than most of the US?

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 15:26:27 2020 No.11509915

>>11509898
Where it hit and when for Italy, hit a vulnerable population(age) first, and then that initial outbreak overwhelmed the system. In the US the outbreak in the old folks home first happened when they were already isolated, not part of the general public. You'll see death rates rise as it get's to different parts of the country. I believe the governor of Louisiana is expecting completely ICU capacity by 4/4 but it seems to be escalating the past few days. That'll be the first sign of death spikes when the system has to turn people away which hasn't happened here yet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 15:48:04 2020 No.11509955 >>11504408 Will it tho? Unless it mutates into 1918 death rate, it would kill off 2 million people in the worst case, which is only .6% of the population.

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 15:51:37 2020 No.11509967
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>>11504417
Why did it start to level off then go up again (logarithmic scale)? Was the leveling off from China not reporting anymore, and then going up again when the rest of the world exploded? Or from more testing?
>>11504421
US has a much lower population density which slows the spread. Still though, the US really isn't doing any worse than the average Western European country even though we caught it before most of them did

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 15:52:47 2020 No.11509971 >>11509955 And even then most of those people will be old. If anything killing off Boomers will finally let the US become a developed nation with modern healthcare and sane economic policies

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 15:58:58 2020 No.11509984
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This is because Americans are unbelievable stupid.
Example:
There are several videos declaring Chicago is a "ghost town" complete with a series of 3 second clips.
But if you actually look at the video, there's clearly hundreds cars driving through the city and people walking around.
If you go to Earth Cam and look at the Wrigleyville Cams (there are 2) you can see dozens of people hanging out, touching each other, and so on.
Chicago is supposed to be on complete police-enforced lock-down.

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 15:59:24 2020 No.11509985

>>11509898
The death count is always some days lagging behind the infected count, because the disease needs some time to develop and deteriorate the patients condition.

America has an massive population of 300 million, the number of tested new infections has been massive in the last week growing from around 60k to 100k. Thus america has actually had a much smaller number of infected than italy for some time and has only recently caught up. I expect the number of deaths in america to incrementally rise within the next week as more and more patients accumulate serious symptoms.

The same thing could be observed in Germany. Germany experienced a massive increase in infected within the last 3 weeks, but 90% of deaths happened within the last week.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:06:08 2020 No.11510006 >>11509985 Also the parts of the US hit first were the one's with the best infrastructure, it greatly helped mitigate the population density issues, more rural state cities will be overwhelmed quickly.

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:19:16 2020 No.11510039

>>11510006
That doesn't make sense and is conflicts with the data.
The Dakotas, for instance, are rural and have the least number of infections.
This is because rural people live father aware from their neighbors and rarely see people.

Viruses always spread faster in Cities.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:20:20 2020 No.11510046 >>11510039 *farther away (Sorry, Logitech $12 keyboard)

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:21:28 2020 No.11510053 File: 1.22 MB, 990x752, assholes4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11509984 And just to show this wasn't a one time snapshot here are several taken in a short amount of time.

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Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:25:00 2020 No.11510063

>>11510006
As of yet I am unsure if medical infrastructure is actually a big contributing factor. From my understanding doctors are pretty much helpless in treating COVID-19 except for alleviating symptoms long enough for the patient's immune response to clear up the mess on its own. Especially older people seem to be unable to do that.

I would argue, that medical infrastructure is on a pretty even level across the EU. But still, their differences in cfr is staggering. While Italy and Spain are getting hammered hard, everyone else is doing okayish.

I rather believe the demographics of the population and the infected are much more important.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:26:44 2020 No.11510071 >>11510053 >>11510055 >>11510058 >>11510062 What's your point?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:32:22 2020 No.11510089 >>11510063 >I rather believe It doesn't matter what you believe it matters what is actually true.

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:35:29 2020 No.11510095

>>11510039
>rural state CITIES
I understand the confusion weird wording on my part. Rural states in general will see much later and much less spread, like west virginia or the dakotas. I mean states that in general have but major 1-2 cities that are congregation points, in general those states have for less resources that can be moved from other parts of the state, most extreme example of this will be New Orleans. All state resources will be directed to the major city hot spots, leaving scraps behind for outlying areas where deaths will be much higher, or try to spread evenly letting the cities get smashed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:37:16 2020 No.11510101 >>11506425 Either contribute something or gtfo. Fucking wojacker

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:37:46 2020 No.11510104

>>11510063
infrastructure does help, being able to catch it early and get less severe cases into a bed and hopefully towards recovery does help, demographics do matter though if a particularly susceptible population get's hit first they tend to spike critical cases and thus overwhelm even the best infrastructure.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:39:51 2020 No.11510110 >>11510063 Also having 2000 capable beds to handle case load before collapse isn't as good as having 4000, infrastructure allows you to mitigate sharpness in the curve.

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:43:18 2020 No.11510115

>>11504408
The market is destroyed and the dollar has been devalued by a few trillion. People have grown more isolated are are being normalized to it. This virus has already changed the world. How does it feel to be at the edge of such a sharp turning point in human history?

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:43:47 2020 No.11510117

>>11510063
One big issue is what types of supportive services can be offered. An advanced ICU can keep someone alive even if their heart/lungs/kidneys have completely failed by using ECMO and dialysis. So if someone gets really bad then they can still be supported until their body heals itself

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:46:49 2020 No.11510130 >>11510104 In New Orleans, 11 old folks homes have been identified as infection clusters

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:50:05 2020 No.11510143 >>11510115 >How does it feel to be at the edge of such a sharp turning point in human history? It fucking sucks. I was gonna start going to the gym and change jobs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:52:33 2020 No.11510151 >>11510115 You are over exaggerating.

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:59:17 2020 No.11510167

>>11510130
They still have the mardi gras spike starting to register, their per capita deaths are triple what we have here in NJ, and they're a lot less prepared for a further burst. Without more resources fast they're completely capped out on appropriate ICU beds in days and will have to start turning people away within a week.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 17:06:50 2020 No.11510186 >>11510071 That Americans are always, always, ALWAYS idiots. No one should morn them or help them. They did this to themselves.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 17:08:13 2020 No.11510191 File: 1.03 MB, 1120x1080, it_all_comes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11510151 Okay retard.

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 17:09:35 2020 No.11510197

>>11510089
Not that poster, but the medical staff are doing nothing since there isn't a vaccine.
All they do is let people sleep.
There isn't any treatment that can help since the most common killer is pneumonia, and that can only be treated with respirators in this case, which are machines, not people.

Current the medical establishment aren't really doing anything excepting lavishing in "hero" praise online.
People are calling then "brave" while they post pictures of themselves claiming they've worked 72 shifts.

But 72 shifts doing what exactly?

They don't do anything.

There is no vaccine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 17:12:12 2020 No.11510210 >>11510186 *mourn

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 17:28:44 2020 No.11510263 >>11505926 Return to Leddit, single mother/orbiter Saged

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 18:53:46 2020 No.11510545 >>11509898 there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of cases in italy, that's the difference

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 18:55:57 2020 No.11510555 >>11509967 retarded zoomer

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 18:59:05 2020 No.11510570 >>11510197 You sound like a 15 year old that has never had a job and doesn't know a single thing about healthcare.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 19:02:50 2020 No.11510589 I don't give a fuck about sino subhumans I don't give a fuck about yuroshits sit on it you gullible pansies

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 19:04:19 2020 No.11510594 >/sci/ is the melodramatic board echoing reddit panic, verbatim >no regard for statistics or context or fact imagine that

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 20:31:03 2020 No.11510828 >>11504850 I hope the government actually is going to take advantage of this crisis real or not just so they can shoot faggots like you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 20:32:33 2020 No.11510832 >>11504896 Trump is going to be on the chopping block with Xi you fucking meathead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 20:41:49 2020 No.11510859 >>11504896 Nobody's in a position to go to war right now

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 21:13:31 2020 No.11510912 >>11510832 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfPk1HIBLfM&list=LLGY5IYtAGrbubtWRHe9K2QQ&index=3&t=0s

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 21:15:33 2020 No.11510920 >>11510151 the world is shut down because of a meme virus. it's only going to get worse from here

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 21:16:46 2020 No.11510922 >>11510920 >it's only going to get worse from here the virus or being hysterical?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 21:17:46 2020 No.11510925 >>11510922 wow, maybe both!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 21:30:21 2020 No.11510952 >>11510925 This.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 21:41:12 2020 No.11510965 >>11510186 No, what's your point with those images when you don't have a baseline comparison?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 21:59:05 2020 No.11511003 >>11510912 Not clicking your gay little video.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 22:07:28 2020 No.11511018 >>11510143 >I was gonna start going to the gym and change jobs. Lying to yourself isn't helping anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 22:25:35 2020 No.11511052 >>11511003 you should. it's amazing

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 00:38:22 2020 No.11511316 >>11510197 a respirator alone is 100% worthless it has to be callibrated, even with a technician its worthless, it needs a doctor to work

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 00:41:59 2020 No.11511319 >>11511003 awwww, snowflake vewwy scared

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 00:43:03 2020 No.11511320 >>11510912 https://youtu.be/xfPk1HIBLfM https://youtu.be/bkMwvmJLnc0

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 00:46:23 2020 No.11511326 >>11509955 Lol SARS cov 2 has a cfr of at least 6%

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 01:23:50 2020 No.11511398 >>11509955 >>11511326 4.59% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_disease_case_fatality_rates#cite_ref-42

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 01:42:56 2020 No.11511422 Europe big 5 + USA https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/?scale=linear&country=France&country=Germany&country=Italy&country=Spain&country=United+Kingdom&country=US

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 01:57:18 2020 No.11511444 >>11511398 COVID-19 fatality rate is under 1% because most cases are never even noticed or reported because it’s that irrelevant and weak of a virus.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 01:58:01 2020 No.11511446 The Winter Flu of 2017 killed 80,000 people.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 01:58:52 2020 No.11511449 >>11511444 >m-muh feelings

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 02:18:56 2020 No.11511478
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>>11506453
Because they are avatarfags who don't realize they depict themselves rather than their shitty projection.
>>11506471
Once the brainlet ones started it was downhill from there because of said projection. Originally it was genuine avatar posting for the post the image was a part of.
>>11506618
Underrated.
>>11511449
Stutterposting is up there with worthless retard projection too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 02:24:35 2020 No.11511489 File: 5 KB, 207x250, brainletreddit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11511478 kys redditor

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 02:26:28 2020 No.11511495 >>11504323 Trump: 'We're going to win so much, you're going to be so sick and tired of winning' I didn't believe it, but here we are.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 02:27:05 2020 No.11511497 >>11511478 and not a single citation was seen...

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 02:29:00 2020 No.11511504 >>11511495 don't worry, April is coming, he promised it'll go down to zero

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 02:33:42 2020 No.11511518 >>11510832 People will still vote Trump out of spite for the democrats, who are trying to use the situation for their advantage. If you still think Trump voters are retarded, happy next four years.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 02:46:35 2020 No.11511539 >>11511518 >If you still think Trump voters are retarded, happy next four years. I have doubts, I still think Trump will lose in a close one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 09:19:20 2020 No.11512062 >>11510089 What kind of smartass pointless reply is this? Present an argument or fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 10:15:09 2020 No.11512194 >>11504323 >the fattiest unhealthiest population on earth gets hit hard by a virus that damages unhealthy people

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 10:28:34 2020 No.11512224 If my boomer parents die I get the inheritance and I'll finally be able to pay my debt so i can't fucking wait.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 10:56:45 2020 No.11512269 >>11507964 this is the reality america is getting in

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 11:10:00 2020 No.11512293
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>>11511518

>People will still vote Trump out of spite for the democrats,

If that's the case then they're not only retarded but have a legitimate death wish. Covid-19 has publically proven that he actually can't do his job when shit actually hits the fan.

The idea that places like Taiwan can get this shit under control but not the U.S. is absolute nonsense. They went on complete lockdown in January while the U.S. dragged its feet until after March. Trump downplayed the virus even though in the background multiple senators including his senate intel chief was selling stocks before the Stock Market went into free fall in February.

He ignored all the experts, all the warnings, ignored allies like Japan going on lockdown and it literally took until Italy going full Plague mode for him to finally publicly take it seriously. Because it would be impossible to deny it any longer since Europe as a whole start banning international travel.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 11:49:53 2020 No.11512391 >>11512293 I know all these things, Anon. The thing is that the democrats try to instrumentalize what has happened, and people don't like that. It makes them seem insincere.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 11:55:33 2020 No.11512401 >>11504444 The quads of quads. My Liege!

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:00:48 2020 No.11512413 >>11512293 >Compares Taiwan to US the absolute state of /sci/

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:03:15 2020 No.11512422
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Oh wow it's fucking nothing.
Even the lib shills admit this now.
200k is not even close to flu numbers and 200k is the absolute maximum worst case estimate.

Can we please go back to work?

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:05:33 2020 No.11512427

>>11512391

>It makes them seem insincere

And Republicans aren't? The truth is both sides are insincere. This has been known for a while. The trick is which insincere party is currently more competent and at least has some semblance of public assurance.

For the past few years it seemed like it was Republicans. Until Covid-19 not only hit them in their weak spot (health care) but also reset the stock market to 2017 levels. Costing them there economic advantage. Most of this could have been avoided if they acted earlier, didn't defund CDC and trash the pandemic team. There was no good reason for them to get this fucking careless.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:05:44 2020 No.11512429 >>11511319 I just dumped some snowflakes in your mum's ass.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:05:59 2020 No.11512432 >>11504733 I've lived in Brooklyn for the past 6 years. I've been praying for something like this for 5 years and 350 days. I just wish it didn't shut down the gym and restaurants; NFL that's really annoying. It'll alllll be worth it to cull the herd.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:06:21 2020 No.11512434 >>11511518 I thought American republicans out of spite anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:06:36 2020 No.11512435 >>11512413 like comparing the entire EU to Madagascar.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:07:24 2020 No.11512437 >>11512434 *vote

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:47:38 2020 No.11512527 >>11512293 >Covid-19 has publically proven that he actually can't do his job when shit actually hits the fan. I think he did a terrible job but I can't imagine any democrat candidate would have done better

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:53:20 2020 No.11512533 >>11509743 >white collar crime doesn't count fuck off back to >>>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:54:23 2020 No.11512535 >>11512527 >I can't imagine lol, retard

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:55:16 2020 No.11512536 it is unironically just a flu

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:58:32 2020 No.11512542 >>11512535 What do you think they would have done? They aren't exactly known for their America-first, protect-the-borders policies, and I can see them doing stupid shit like that Italian mayor did, telling people to hug the infected to show solidarity

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 13:01:21 2020 No.11512546 >>11512542 start up the ventilator industry 3 months ago. not fucking just call it a hoax

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 13:03:05 2020 No.11512549 >>11512391 Ah yes defending loosely bailouts for corporations who shit the bed in less than a month but little unemployment insurance for the people out of a job

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 13:04:56 2020 No.11512552 >>11512542 >not defund the CDC >not call the covid a hoax for weeks as the cases rose Just off the top of my head

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 13:06:02 2020 No.11512554

>>11512546
Nobody would have been "starting up the ventilator industry"

Trump's attitude towards it was stupid, but everyone had that attitude initially, mostly because of China lying through their teeth and making it seem like they were able to control it fairly easily and quickly. European countries didn't take it seriously until they started seeing loads of deaths

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 13:08:18 2020 No.11512563 >>11512432 It's all fun and games until it's your turn to be culled

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 13:08:51 2020 No.11512565 >>11512413 Literally every country in the world has handled things better than the US, except Italy and Spain which got the virus earlier, and Brazil which has another alt right memelord in power,

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 13:28:07 2020 No.11512595 >>11512535 The democrat mayor of New Orleans waited until after Mardi Gras, which brought in people from all over the world to stand in large crowds for 2 weeks, to begin shutting things down.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 14:07:11 2020 No.11512675
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>>11512527

A democratic candidate wouldn't have immediately downplay the threat, cut CDC spending from previous years, axe a federal oversight team built for shit like this and reduce funding to healthcare.

You might say that hindsight is 2020 (no pun intended) but we have had at least four outbreaks in the last 20 years. Dr. Fauci even warned about a pandemic being next in 2017.

https://www.the-rheumatologist.org/article/aids-zika-whats-next-asked-dr-anthony-fauci-keynote-address-2017-acrarhp-annual-meeting/

>The 2017 ACR/ARHP Annual Meeting kicked off on Nov. 4 with a rousing presentation by Anthony S. Fauci, MD, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID). A terrorist attack on U.S. soil, hurricane, cyberattack and pandemic were the four scenarios played out in late 2016, when NIAID conducted a tabletop exercise for the newly elected president’s incoming cabinet.

>In this first year of Donald Trump’s presidency, three of these four potential disasters have already occurred: We’ve had a terrorist attack in Las Vegas. Hurricanes Harvey, Irma and Maria wreaked untold damage in Texas, Florida and Puerto Rico. And the extent of Russia’s cyberattacks and interference in the election is still being uncovered. “That leaves pandemic,” said Dr. Fauci.

It didn't have to come to this. Trump and Republicans could have avoided most this if they listened. Instead now they're fucked and have to call Fauci in to clean up the mess. A Democrat would have heeded the warning and prepared while Republicans would have called it wasteful spending.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 14:10:08 2020 No.11512685 100k-200k https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 14:11:59 2020 No.11512690 >>11512432 >look mommy I’m a sociopath Kill yourself

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 14:14:03 2020 No.11512695

>>11512427
>And Republicans aren't?
Less so. They're more stupid than insincere. Some people value that.
>this could have been avoided if they acted earlier
I know. Doesn't change that fact though. Governments all around the world except for a few acted cowardly and late.

>>11512434
Not anymore after this debacle I guess.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 14:16:54 2020 No.11512702 File: 75 KB, 1892x951, WcROQxE.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i remember posting on here in mid february like, "is it over?"

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 14:28:01 2020 No.11512732

>>11512675
>A democratic candidate wouldn't have immediately downplay the threat
See >>11512595 for an example of a democrat response to the virus that lead to disaster

Cutting funding for the CDC and healthcare before the virus had ever been heard of was more of a fluke than anything. Imagine if a democrat was in the white house and cut funding to border control agencies and suddenly illegals began spreading the virus like crazy with no way to document or control it. Different candidates, different problems.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 14:36:38 2020 No.11512755

>>11512732

>Cutting funding for the CDC and healthcare before the virus had ever been heard of was more of a fluke than anything

How is it a fluke when Dr. Fauci literally warned that a pandemic was next? There's a reason why I posted that article. It's because it provides proof that the Trump administration was aware of this potential danger and ignored it.

Do you think it's a fluke that the same man who predicted the pandemic is now the official expert spokesman for it?

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 14:40:41 2020 No.11512764

>>11512755
It wasn't a genuine "this will happen, I'm already aware of the coronavirus that won't exist for 2 more years" warning. He mentioned 4 types of disasters that could hypothetically happen, and since 3 happened (one of which has been under dispute for 4 years), he said "the only one left would be a pandemic." That's no more reliable than a psychic reading and only happened by sheer coincidence.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 14:41:04 2020 No.11512765

>>11504323
Key facts are being kept from the public. 1) ventilators do not work. Basically every patient put on a vent because of Covid ends up dying, only after weeks of draining resources and spreading the disease. 2) the mortality rate is much higher than claimed. The true mortality rate is at least 5%. Most countries show over 10% mortality of confirmed positives--I'm assuming about half of those with it are unreported. Others have assumed the majority of positives are unreported, which yes might be the case with influenza type things, but everyone is obsessed with being tested for Covid. At most, half of those with it go unreported. This puts the death rate at 5% across the board, easy.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 14:46:24 2020 No.11512773

>>11511444
It's interesting how we all like repeating this, even myself , until I really thought about where I got that info....from people just talking. Since looking into the facts and using common sense, it is clear to me that there is a minimum 5% mortality rate.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 14:48:55 2020 No.11512779

>>11511316
The the big story is actually that ventilators do not work with covid. Almost all, even potentially 98%, in the United States are dying, after draining resources and spreading the virus for weeks on a vent. The story will eventually break. I don't care I you believe me, but I do feel an obligation to inform a few people here about the truth so that maybe it spreads a bit and puts pressure on the media to tell the truth or so their jobs and discover it.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 14:49:30 2020 No.11512782

>>11512764

>That's no more reliable than a psychic reading and only happened by sheer coincidence.

You would be right if Ebola, Zika and H1N1 didn't happen. The fact is the odds of a pandemic happening was legimate and Dr. Fauci warned about it using previous on record data.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 14:51:40 2020 No.11512789 >>11512732 The virus wasn't spread though border crossing illegals though

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 15:03:52 2020 No.11512818 >>11512779 How do you know about the ventilators?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 15:04:53 2020 No.11512821 >>11504853 >Had China acted at the end of December When there were less than 30 deaths and no-one knew it was going to blow up like it did? It's so easy talking with the benefit of hindsight.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 15:05:24 2020 No.11512824

>>11512773
>It's interesting how we all like repeating this, even myself , until I really thought about where I got that info....from people just talking

Or you could look it up, retard. 0.2% for everyone under forty, counting only verified cases.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 15:06:06 2020 No.11512827

>>11512782
None of those were nearly on the same level or even affected the US. The idea of "anything could happen, so be maximally prepared for everything" doesn't work in practical terms. It's unfortunate that we got hit by one we weren't totally prepared for, but nobody was prepared for it, and anything considered a warning beforehand was purely hypothetical and unreliable.
>>11512789
And who's to say that never could happen? That's the point, that you can't expect the unexpected. Do any other countries have pandemic warning experts? Did anybody prepare for this? It's not like climate change where it's Everybody vs Trump. Leaders aren't willing to shut their whole economies down unless they know it's a serious threat

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 15:07:51 2020 No.11512835 File: 7 KB, 286x342, 1395719962383.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11512824 >that death rate for oldies I don't want to lose my grandparents, bros.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 15:51:33 2020 No.11512975 >>11512821 If "no one knew it was going to blow up" then why did the Chinese hide evidence and lie? They knew there was potential danger but didn't want to be the only ones with an epidemic so they allowed it to spread throughout the world.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 15:58:14 2020 No.11513003

>>11512827
The US had plenty of time to produce a response based on what was happening elsewhere with covid and what had happened in the past with other diseases. He fired the pandemic response and removed funding from the CDC and downplayed the entire thing until 12 days ago.
>>11511320

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 17:06:37 2020 No.11513215

>>11512827

>None of those were nearly on the same level or even affected the US

H1N1 (Swine Flu) was and it most definitely affected the US. At least 12k deaths when it was all said and done.

>The idea of "anything could happen, so be maximally prepared for everything" doesn't work in practical terms

This is usually true, for instance preparing for near or complete catastrophic meteor strike is not financially feasible (even though we have NASA watching out for it). As even though the chance of such a event is possible the cost for complete preparation is astronomical. Especially when there's no previous event on record impacting humans to readily justify a full budget for it.

However outbreaks/pandemics are different. They are common enough that it is a near certainty that at least a couple major diseases will happen each century. Previous centuries it was Cholera/Smallpox and Spanish Flu. It's possible Covid-19 maybe it for this century although it's still to early too tell since we are only 20 years in.

The important take away is the preparation for a pandemic is 100% justified as there is evidence to prove how frequently it can occur.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 17:21:11 2020 No.11513238 >>11512835 then stay in the fucking house and dont let your old folks go out for anything in the world buy their shit for them and leave it just inside their apartment while spraying it and stuff around it with alcohol

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 17:31:33 2020 No.11513258 >>11512818 Wife is on the front-line in the ICU--top hospital in Seattle. Zero survivals after intubation. Not only at her ICU but the entire corporate network that owns her hospital. Zero.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 17:51:00 2020 No.11513314

>>11512824
What is it like to both blindly trust internet facts and also be unable to look past your immediate health? Even if zero people under 50 died, this thing is going to fuck us up bad. Who the hell do you think actually runs this world? How the hell do you think you get all your plastic and metal toys surrounding you, those shiny wrapped snacks? Do you think it is magic and as long as you don't literally die of disease yourself, then everything is fine?

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 17:53:45 2020 No.11513319

>>11512824
Good thing we have the solid facts of World-O-Meter! Who needs the facts from scientists and medical practitioners dealing with this thing and aware of what it will become....we have world-o-meter! Those idiot doctors should just watch world-o-meter and relax.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 18:13:57 2020 No.11513377 >>11513258 Why don't you guys come out and say something then? Start going on social media or something

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 18:18:39 2020 No.11513391 >>11513377 Because he's LARPing

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 19:15:34 2020 No.11513500 >>11513319 >facts from scientists and medical practitioners what facts? the 5% death rate?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 19:54:49 2020 No.11513599 >>11510191 updated?

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 20:25:51 2020 No.11513696

>>11513377
I have literally been fighting this stuff today here and on all social media--today only--to state the truth. Nowhere does anyone want to hear it. I was even permabanned on 4chan (just lifted). The stupidity of blindly arguing against facts is preventing us from arguing about a solution.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 22:39:24 2020 No.11513933 >>11513696 >permabanned for being a LARPing faggot damn who knew tranny jannies could be based

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