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[Anonymous No.11496536]

Old Space vs. New Space

old thread >>11489376

[Anonymous No.11496540]

And one web was gated behind existing launch companies that were basically at full capacity anyways

[Anonymous No.11496546]

Why can't Elon land Falcons anymore?

[Anonymous No.11496547]

wow

[Anonymous No.11496622]

>>11496547
>“If you’re thinking about investing in OneWeb, I would recommend strongly against it," Shotwell said in October. "They fooled some people who are going to be pretty disappointed in the near term."

[Anonymous No.11496627]

>>11496547
Says the guy who founded one web spent a decade trying to get internet to rural Africa
And then people give him 3 billion dollars

Dunno what people expected

[Anonymous No.11496642]

And his last venture was bought out before it was even making money

[Anonymous No.11496645]

>>11496508
Guess this rocket is now just One of Three of Astra's failures

[Anonymous No.11496659]

>OneWeb likely dead
>Bigelow likely dead
Who's next?

[Anonymous No.11496672]

>>11496659
Iridium

[Anonymous No.11496691]

>>11496659
Not Boeing, along with the rest of the oldspace companies with ties to the military industrial complex. Probably most of the smallsat launchers will go away.

[Anonymous No.11496847]

Musk haters literally on suicide watch.

[Anonymous No.11496951]

>>11496847
He just bought them from China.

[Anonymous No.11496959]

>>11496672
Elon Musk 100%. I’ll laugh when that evil capitalist asshole goes bankrupt and all his dumb rockets are dismantled

[Anonymous No.11497015]

>>11496466
>anomaly
What the fuck does that even mean. Did it blow up or not?

[Anonymous No.11497067]

>>11496847
>>11496951
I was told it was literally impossible for Musk to deliver. Now this has happened, AGAIN!!!?! What the fuck is going on? Is Musk really GOD? How can he do impossible things again and again? Is Musk GOD? Or are the critics retarded niggers?

[Anonymous No.11497119]

>SN4 rings are out
>SN3 still not fully stacked
what's taking so long with SN3?

[Anonymous No.11497130]

>>11496951
so? China has a surplus right now

[Anonymous No.11497197]

>>11496847
They were from the stockpile.

[Anonymous No.11497205]

>>11497119
there's a lot of internal work you don't see on pictures
every starship so far has required a lot of internal work

[Anonymous No.11497211]

>>11497205
damn they're going to have to speed that up

[Anonymous No.11497240]

>NASA and Northrop Grumman are “suspending integration and testing operations” on the James Webb Space Telescope in response to the coronavirus pandemic, a decision that officials said is likely to delay the mission’s scheduled launch date in March 2021.

Got ya again, anon :^)

[Anonymous No.11497241]

>>11496847
Wow, he bought 1,000 masks and donated them for PR because he’s an attention whore. This will unfortunately overshadow companies who’ve actually re-configured their production lines to build masks and ventilators, who are pumping them out instead of buying a batch and passing it off as yours. Colour me for not being impressed.

[Anonymous No.11497242]

>>11497241
*theirs

[Anonymous No.11497243]

>>11497240
>Jimmies status: rustled
They're never gonna launch it, aren't they?

[Anonymous No.11497244]

>>11497015
I think this line says it all

>“The area is still hazardous and should be avoided. There will be personnel on site overnight to monitor,”

[Anonymous No.11497247]

>>11497240
Can't have any of the workers getting sick. Might delay the project if they can't show up for work.

[Anonymous No.11497256]

>>11497247
Another reason it shutdown was because the governor of CA decided to give a stay at home order for all non-essential workers. DoD contractors are considered essential but NASA are not.

[Anonymous No.11497259]

>>11497244
That doesn't really explain much. Could easily be someone opening a can of surströmming on premises.

[Anonymous No.11497262]

>>11497247
One sneeze and the sun shield will be torn to pieces.
I gotta agree with Musk on "if it's too long, you're doing it wrong". With the risk of blowing up on ascend or just not properly opening in destination point, this was an absolutely crazy endeavour.

[Anonymous No.11497266]

>>11497256
JWST is built at a Northrop Grumman facility in Southern California btw

[Anonymous No.11497270]

>>11497259
It suggests the contamination of the launch site caused by an explosion or spilled propellant

[Anonymous No.11497271]

>>11497270
Or surströmming

[Anonymous No.11497276]

>>11497271
>Surströmming is a lightly-salted fermented Baltic Sea herring traditional to Swedish cuisine since at least the 16th century. The Baltic herring, known as strömming in Swedish, is smaller than the Atlantic herring, found in the North Sea.

[Anonymous No.11497280]

>>11497276
>the biggest challenge when eating surströmming is to vomit only after the first bite, as opposed to before

>In 1981, a German landlord evicted a tenant without notice after the tenant spread surströmming brine in the apartment building's stairwell. When the landlord was taken to court, the court ruled that the termination was justified when the landlord's party demonstrated their case by opening a can inside the courtroom.

tl;dr watch youtube for reactions (or rather don't)

[Anonymous No.11497288]

>>11497280
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xhfJRdwHnU

[Anonymous No.11497305]

https://spacenews.com/astra-rocket-damaged-in-pre-launch-tests/

>Astra rocket damaged in pre-launch tests

[Anonymous No.11497314]

>>11497305
are all of alaska's flights going to be polar like vandenberg?

[Anonymous No.11497336]

>>11497241
Masks or ventilators?

[Anonymous No.11497341]

>>11497314
Yes

>>11497336
Ventilators

[Anonymous No.11497372]

>>11497240
My dream would be for JWST to not work, leading to NASA/US reconsider how it deals with old space, but who am i kidding, this thing will probably not work, and old space will still get a big fat check

[Anonymous No.11497396]

>>11497015
Yes, massively.

[Anonymous No.11497449]

>>11497396
The report says the vehicle was “damaged” not destroyed, suggesting the vehicle didn’t explode but some part of it likely went boom...

[Anonymous No.11497451]

>>11496547
Aerospace grade hardware and services aren't cheap. Frankly I'm surprised they even managed to get past the prototype phase with such pitiful budget.

[Anonymous No.11497457]

>roscosmos rumors
>"manned starliner flight in august"
Beautiful.

[Anonymous No.11497506]

>>11496546
It must be Corona-chan's fault.
But seriously, isn't the Starlink launch profile a bit on the extreme side? First it's launching higher than ISS, second it's lifting a buttload of sats, so maybe it's just because they've had mostly ISS and GTO missions until now.
And they switched to that new more direct profile where they don't have to wait 2 hours before deployment.

[Anonymous No.11497508]

>>11497506
no, it's just that all the starlink falcon launches are F9s they don't think are suitable for commercial launches. They probably have an idea of how likely each rocket is to succeed at any given launch and reserve the shitty ones for their internal projects.

[Anonymous No.11497513]

>>11496959
Watch out, he probably knows your lat/long already. Oops, how did we ever manage to drop that thing without it burning up?

[Anonymous No.11497523]

>>11497240
Now I'm worried about Perseverance missing its launch window

[Anonymous No.11497544]

>>11497449
So the front fell off?

[Anonymous No.11497550]

>>11496951
This

I'm more happy he didn't get called out (yet) and call someone a pedo or a nigger.

[Anonymous No.11497556]

>>11497550

[Anonymous No.11497559]

>>11497550
it must have been great back before social media when all the people who represented hope for the human race could be degenerate assholes in private and we didn't have to hear about it

[Anonymous No.11497569]

>>11496645
based
>>11496847
based
>>11497067
>Or are the critics retarded niggers?
based
>>11497241
At least he's doing literally anything, he could just be tweeting thoughts and prayers

[Anonymous No.11497634]

>starliner in august
as much as i want starliner to succeed, there's no way thats happening. maybe august of next year.

[Anonymous No.11497671]

https://twitter.com/Free_Space/status/1242447475459395584
>NASA reps from Commercial Crew program join
@SpaceX investigation into premature shutdown of one of the 9 Merlin engines on the Falcon 9 that launched 3/18 on Starlink-6 mission.
ohnonononono
at least now is probably the best time for the rocket to be grounded since it's probably grounded anyways from virus

[Anonymous No.11497696]

>>11496847
inb4 they blow up

[Anonymous No.11497719]

>>11497671
We've known about this since the launch and I don't think Falcon 9 is grounded anyway

[Anonymous No.11497834]

>>11497719
What the rocket does after the capsule fucks off is basically none of NASA's business as far as crew rating goes. And the fact that both times an engine failed (out of hundreds of engine-launches), the primary mission succeeded is proof that F9 deserves its crew rating.

[Anonymous No.11497855]

>>11497834
>What the rocket does after the capsule fucks off is basically none of NASA's business as far as crew rating goes.

Yes, but the engine failure occurred during ascent before MECO, not after separation. So it’s definitely NASA’s business.

[Anonymous No.11497894]

>>11497671
As American patriot who believes American leadership in spaceflight and deep space exploration must be maintained this is deeply worrying news. While I am not questioning spacex competence entirely I am convinced this disastrous event could have potentially someday lead to American astronauts dying and this simply cannot be ignored. In addition to deeper and stronger NASA oversight spacex should be expected to repeat the orbital flight test as well as prove the engine reliability with certain number of unmanned flights. Anything less is bordering criminal negligence and putting American lives and the United States' strategic interests in space in jeopardy.

[Anonymous No.11497906]

>>11497894
Boeing please.

[Anonymous No.11497907]

>>11497894
Ok Shelby.

[Anonymous No.11497923]

>>11497894
>potentially someday lead to American astronauts dying
And trying to touch down on land with a parachute built by Boing won't?

[Anonymous No.11497933]

>>11497923
all parachutes in basically all three capsule programs are built by the same people

[Anonymous No.11497939]

>>11497933
When the parachute failed in the abort test, it wasn't the parachute quality that was the problem, it was installed wrong. By a Boing worker, of course.

[Anonymous No.11497940]

>>11497933
This, also IIRC SpaceX did try to get chutes from a different vendor because they felt that the current vendors were too slow. NASA shot that proposal down.

[Anonymous No.11497941]

>>11497372
More like wish there was criminal charges against all involved

[Anonymous No.11497963]

>>11497634
I would predict star liner simply never goes into regular use
There is some disgustingly flagrant wastes of money happening at NASA with the simultaneous development of numerous “human rated” capsules
At huge cost

[Anonymous No.11497990]

>>11497963
>simultaneous development of numerous “human rated” capsules
>At huge cost

It’s called redundancy asshat

[Anonymous No.11497997]

>>11497963
clearly getting two companies to compete to human rate a capsule was the right move. It exposed Boeing pretty hard.

[Anonymous No.11498101]

>>11497997
I hope that H1Bs are categorically banned from ever working in aerospace or for government contractors ever again. Pajeet code crashes planes.

[Anonymous No.11498146]

>>11498101
>unfounded bullshit

[Anonymous No.11498184]

just had a bigbrain moment
rocket lab electron can, just barely, loft a man in a spacesuit to orbit

[Anonymous No.11498192]

>>11498184
You can’t just launch people in space suits mate you have to have a 5 billion dollar capsule!

[Anonymous No.11498194]

>>11498192
how much would MOOSE weigh

[Anonymous No.11498218]

I want to see the starlink user hardware.

[Anonymous No.11498292]

>>11497997
Imagine if they had only gone with one. You know that one would have been Boing, and without the competition of SpaceX they probably wouldn't even be as far as they are now.

[Anonymous No.11498357]

>>11498292
They’ve spent 20 billion on Orion so far
Dunno where that money even goes

[Anonymous No.11498363]

>>11498357
no it's Lockheed that have blown 20 bajillion on Orion

[Anonymous No.11498368]

>>11498292
>Imagine if they had only gone with one.
The Soyuz would look like a dirt cheap ride by comparison.

[Anonymous No.11498383]

>>11498357
Scientific studies studying the viability of conducting a study to study the perfect shape for the door handle.

[Anonymous No.11498385]

>>11498383
And you build a capsule then spend 5 years studying it instead of just launching it
Because you can’t launch since you have no vehicle

[Anonymous No.11498386]

>>11498101
That's a sexy penetration.

[Anonymous No.11498440]

When it comes to interstellar travel, I predict we'll get into a feedback loop where "just around the corner" inventions promise to make the trip in half the time, making people wary to commit. It'd be pretty lame if you spend 150 years on your generation ship just for another ship to have made the trek in just 10 years and have been established on the planet for 50 years when you get there. It may be hundreds of years after intestellar travel becomes more-or-less viable until anyone actually does it.

[Anonymous No.11498504]

>>11496959
Nice FUDposting.

[Anonymous No.11498505]

>>11498440
>When it comes to interstellar travel, I predict we'll get into a feedback loop where "just around the corner" inventions promise to make the trip in half the time
Short of FTL there's a pretty hard upper limit on that of 0.2c. Once we have engines capable of 0.1c, waiting for that final doubling won't get you to Alpha Centauri any faster unless you're willing to piss money and engines away on fighting relativistic mass increases.

[Anonymous No.11498510]

>>11498505
what causes that?

[Anonymous No.11498518]

>>11498505
>Short of FTL there's a pretty hard upper limit on that of 0.2c.

Singularity and second singularity intelligences will allow velocities exceeding 0.5c. Just you wait.

[Anonymous No.11498519]

>>11497671
The thing they need to look into is their fucking refurb process. They've been working to cut down more and more on the time and clearly they're cutting corners they shouldn't be cutting.

[Anonymous No.11498530]

>crew dragon destroyed during parachute test
spaceflight is getting hammered this year

[Anonymous No.11498541]

>>11498530
>Oops. Report that a #SpaceX #CrewDragon test article was destroyed today during a parachute test. Report is the helicopter pilot dropped it prematurely at lower than planned altitude due to oscillations. Chutes did not open because they were not armed at time of the drop.
welp, that's what insurance is for. Hopefully doesn't push anything back.

[Anonymous No.11498547]

>>11498541
Could delay parachute certification (because they’ll need a new test article) and get NASA on their case about irresponsible testing practices, but that’s it really.

[Anonymous No.11498562]

>>11497240
>“suspending integration and testing operations” on the James Webb Space Telescope

[Anonymous No.11498623]

>>11498518
Moore’s law is dead. Singularity is a meme.

[Anonymous No.11498629]

>>11498623
Nope. Moore’s law continues at a slower rate, but it will eventually accelerate again as technology improves continuously until godhead is achieved.

[Anonymous No.11498677]

>>11497243
It will, but with the history of this thing it has very big chance of blowing up on the way up.

[Anonymous No.11498693]

>>11498101
i think your mentality is downright funny, you blame pajeet for his shitty code, while for the money that that boeing has recieved so far no pajeet should ever have come close to boeing's planes or space program.
This is all to blame on boeing and US politicians corruption trying to cut corners to save as much money as possible to put in their own pockets.
By blaming pajeet your just going after the result, not the cause.

[Anonymous No.11498694]

>>11498518
Making unintentional planet destructing kinetic weapons is very, very not classy for a Type I civ (required for a tech singularity) ofc light-sails or orion/daedalus ships are great but, launching things at 0.5c is literally something monkeys would do. Things like star engines or generation ships are way better for long term interstellar travel and, if possible the warp meme

[Anonymous No.11498707]

>>11498677
Nah, the sun shield would be the thing that'll most likely fail. I'm getting Mars Insight mole vibes of "we've never tested this in the appropriate environment, but our simulations check out" from JWST.

[Anonymous No.11498710]

>>11498707
>"we've never tested this in the appropriate environment, but our simulations check out" from JWST.

JWST has and is being tested extensively though...

[Anonymous No.11498715]

>>11498505
why is there a hard upper limit?
the dangers of hitting matter can be mitigated with ablative shielding
With some half decent advances in positron production the extra fuel requirements are a rounding error to hit 0.1c

[Anonymous No.11498719]

>>11498510
It becomes really really impractical to go any faster because of the propellant mass fractions required and other things like normal interstellar gas acting like high energy radiation that melts the nose of your spacecraft.

[Anonymous No.11498720]

>>11498710
Not micro-g testing though. Right?

[Anonymous No.11498771]

>>11498720
>As before, technicians used gravity-offsetting pulleys and weights to simulate the zero-g environment it will experience in space. By carefully monitoring the deployment and tensioning of each individual layer, Webb technicians ensure that once on orbit, they will function flawlessly.

[Anonymous No.11498785]

>>11497240
The "it's been delayed decades, what's a few more months" mentality is the reason that if you don't shit your project out after 1 or 2 delays some agency needs to be in charge of blowing it up and allowing someone else to start over

[Anonymous No.11498788]

>>11498771
Wonder how many hundreds of millions was spent on this elaborate pulley system to “simulate” zero g

Coulda just built a second one with this money

[Anonymous No.11498794]

>>11498629
>Moore‘s law continues by not following Moore‘s law anymore
Alright.
>I know we‘re running up against hard physical limits that are ever harder to solve right now, but it‘ll just get easier again because the universal laws have to bend to my science fiction
Alright.

[Anonymous No.11498801]

>>11498788

[Anonymous No.11498814]

>>11498292

[Anonymous No.11498826]

>>11498292
>>11498814

[Anonymous No.11498837]

>>11498826
>the virgin Boing LBGT vs the chad SpaceX Aniki

[Anonymous No.11498851]

>>11498826
You've missed the reference.

[Anonymous No.11498864]

>>11498826
These fucking “I love science” hyper liberal faggots
Is there anything more tryhard and fake

[Anonymous No.11498900]

>>11498541
>>11498530

[Anonymous No.11498908]

>>11498900
Too much slack in the rope made it start swinging around then? Need a heavier helicopter, or a cargo plane maybe? Or just tighten up on the slack next time?

[Anonymous No.11498921]

>>11498710
They tested the heat probe extensively too

[Anonymous No.11498931]

>>11498921
I’m pretty sure humans know how complex machines function in space after launching over 5000 and counting of them into it. Digging into Martian soil is a whole other ball game, which we have far less experience at. If JWST fails it will be mechanically-induced, not environmentally.

[Anonymous No.11498940]

>>11498931
>I’m pretty sure humans know how complex machines function in space after launching over 5000 and counting of them into it
are you new to these threads?

[Anonymous No.11498949]

>>11498931
lmao

[Anonymous No.11498986]

>>11498931
no, we really don't

[Anonymous No.11498991]

>>11498931

[Anonymous No.11498996]

>>11498931
>Digging into Martian soil is a whole other ball game
I imagine this formidable challenge may require some sort of shovel.

[Anonymous No.11499013]

>>11498900
On a scale from dummy weight to future flight hardware, how sophisticated was this "test article"?

[Anonymous No.11499014]

>>11498900
Why does it ha e to be armed
Who’s fault is it that it would just fall to the ground because it didn’t reach “target conditions”
Almost as if these guys don’t understand the point of a test

[Anonymous No.11499020]

>>11499014
you don't want the parachutes going off on the way up

[Anonymous No.11499021]

>>11499014
>Why does it ha e to be armed
So the chutes don't go off when they're not supposed to.

[Anonymous No.11499027]

>>11496547
shotwell is a prophet

[Anonymous No.11499037]

>>11499014
the point of the test is to test it in a narrowly defined and controlled scenario to get as much information out as possible.

[Anonymous No.11499092]

>>11499020
Why would it when it’s designed to deploy on free fall

[Anonymous No.11499099]

>>11499027
Obviously not, considering her annual launch cadence predictions...

[Anonymous No.11499111]

>>11499027
They intended 100 launches a year at this point lol

[Anonymous No.11499317]

>>11499092
It's a test run. You don't assume it will work right on the test run.

[Anonymous No.11499532]

>>11498694
I want to get to my destination as fast as I can. Sure, you could cause enormous damage if you smashed into a planet, but just....don’t.

[Anonymous No.11499540]

>>11498864
>NOOOOO SCIENCE IS MY EXCLUSIVE CLUB NOOOOOO

Seething sperg angry that people with more than five friends are entering his safe space.

[Anonymous No.11499545]

>>11498931
>Digging into Martian soil is a whole other ball game, which we have far less experience at.

Is this actually a joke? Digging is insanely easy.
NASA failed at making a simple drill.

[Anonymous No.11499570]

>>11499014
Mike Hughes says hi.
Though yes it would make sense for emergency release to also arm the chutes, or at least someone with a finger on the manual deploy button. Doesn't matter if the test wasn't performed as planned, it could still save the capsule to do better next time.

Was the helicopter made by boeing perchance? Or the pilot an ex-boeing employee?

[Anonymous No.11499679]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF9iFe-dMFM

00:09

Are they building a THIRD fucking HighBay? They have the original WindBreaker, the HB, the new super-large structure on the other side of the tents/near the windbreak (03:30), and now they are pouring concrete next to the HB.

Also a virtual flyover of the site as of a week ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_035KKiBwU

[Anonymous No.11499865]

>>11499317
>t. Boeing

[Anonymous No.11500052]

>>11499679
wow three new builds incoming

[Anonymous No.11500128]

>>11498629
>moore's law continues
>because we made the chips much larger with many more cores
HURRRRR

[Anonymous No.11500275]

>>11499013
Not very. The test didn't happen. The heli pilot dropped the "test article" aka the crew dragon prematurely because helicopter was unstable. So they prioritized crew safety > "test article."

[Anonymous No.11500331]

>chinese virus has hit spacex
>quarantines being put into place
how long until boca chica gets hit?

[Anonymous No.11500333]

>>11500331
Taco truck diet probably stops that shit dead in its tracks.

[Anonymous No.11500336]

>nasa is planning a lunar communications network
wait how long until we get that?

https://spacenews.com/nasa-to-hand-off-spacecraft-communications-to-industry/

[Anonymous No.11500337]

>>11500331
boca chica is pretty isolated, but I imagine it'll start messing up their supply chains soon

[Anonymous No.11500374]

Exomars delayed until 2022
This cruel world.
http://www.esa.int/Newsroom/Press_Releases/ExoMars_to_take_off_for_the_Red_Planet_in_2022

[Anonymous No.11500390]

>>11500374
further proof that a mars colony will need to be able to survive on its own for years. just one random plague can shut down resupply from earth.

[Anonymous No.11500504]

New SpaceX engineer :)

[Anonymous No.11500544]

S T A C C
SOOOON

[Anonymous No.11500548]

>>11500544
S T A C C
T
A
C
C

[Anonymous No.11500555]

>>11500504
fake news

[Anonymous No.11500558]

>>11500544
I thought the point of building a shack like that was to integrate a crane into the ceiling. Is this some advanced "fail fast" technique?

[Anonymous No.11500560]

>>11500558
Elon's a dumbass and cranes are expensive
the high bay should absolutely have a bridge crane across the top but Elon dumb

[Anonymous No.11500568]

>>11500504
>Aerospace engineer, MSC astrophysics.
What the hell? I thought she worked at the marketing department.

[Anonymous No.11500646]

>>11500544
ok they stacc it, then how long does it take before they start testing?

[Anonymous No.11500648]

SPACE FORCE

[Anonymous No.11500650]

>>11500646
nobody knows

[Anonymous No.11500661]

>>11500648
the coronapocalypse may be here but at least we got to see a space military happen before we went extinct

[Anonymous No.11500905]

>>11500558
All it has to do is keep the wind out. If you want to put a crane in the ceiling then you need a bigger structure. No point in doing that if you have all of these capable wheeled cranes running around your construction site.

[Anonymous No.11500918]

>>11500905
bridge cranes are easier and faster to operate than mobile cranes, and just as flexible (if you're not trying to move it out of the building
also mobile cranes get in the way

[Anonymous No.11500924]

>>11498292
>>11498826
What's wrong with any of these?

[Anonymous No.11500929]

>>11498864
>there are gays in STEM
Yeah no shit

[Anonymous No.11500934]

>>11500918
They'll have plenty of Bridge Cranes once Starlink is operating.

[Anonymous No.11500935]

>>11500918
I agree, it makes sense if the building is built to support a crane. The structure spacex has looks more like a shed. I think they skimped on the vehicle assembly building because they have enough construction equipment to get things done without it, at least for now.

[Anonymous No.11500948]

>>11500935
yeah, that makes sense
they're going to regret it later

[Anonymous No.11500989]

>>11500935
You are the sorta person who thinks they should burn a 2 billion dollar factory before starting anything

Which is why Blue Origin isn’t in safe yet

[Anonymous No.11500991]

Space*

[Anonymous No.11501059]

>>11500924
Who said there was something wrong, or are you just triggering on your own projection of things you see?

[Anonymous No.11501154]

>>11500648
>white clad military spacecraft with Starfleet chevrons on them are now real
Now we just need fusion engines to get out of the lab and a warp drive.

[Anonymous No.11501535]

>>11500390
Exomars has been delayed for many many years now, it probably has nothing to do with the virus

[Anonymous No.11501543]

>>11500374
Name a more iconic duo: JWST + Exomars.

[Anonymous No.11501561]

>>11501543
JWST is actually groundbreaking tho, ExoMars is only noteworthy because it’s Europe’s first Mars rover.

[Anonymous No.11501697]

soon
first time this chart has been completely filled out

[Anonymous No.11501705]

Callisto is the best place for colonization.

[Anonymous No.11501735]

>>11501543
JWST + SLS

[Anonymous No.11501738]

>>11501735
JWST isn't launching on SLS, anon

[Anonymous No.11501761]

>>11501735
SLS is 3 years behind schedule, that’s nothing compared to JWST, their not even in the same league. ExoMars on the other hand...

[Anonymous No.11501782]

>>11501761
SLS is the culmination of a process that began in 1996 with renowned rocket scientist and Clinton lover Zubrin

[Anonymous No.11501797]

>>11501543
SLS + Yenisei

[Anonymous No.11501826]

>>11501543
N1 and lithobraking

[Anonymous No.11501896]

>>11501705
what's your logic behind that, and do you mean the best in the solar system, or just the best out of the galillean moons?

[Anonymous No.11501909]

>>11497696
Made me laugh.

[Anonymous No.11501914]

>>11501154
This really needs a shuttlecraft at the bottom for scale.

[Anonymous No.11501921]

>>11500661
>The flu will render humans extinct

Okay

[Anonymous No.11501966]

>>11501761
>3 years
kek. More like a decade behind schedule

[Anonymous No.11502021]

>>11501705
At Jupiter, yes and also based
In the solar system, no. Mars is the 'best' target both in terms of surface conditions and developmental potential, due to its thin atmosphere, reduced but significant gravity, proximity to the asteroid belts, its two small asteroid-like moons, etc. Moon is a close second because despite being worse in literally every way, it's so close that we can brute force colonize and develop it very quickly.

[Anonymous No.11502066]

>>11501966
>2018 was a decade ago

[Anonymous No.11502070]

bait this low effort doesn't deserve (You)s

[Anonymous No.11502083]

>>11502066
2010 is a decade ago. SLS is nothing more than a reconfiguration of Space Shuttle parts. Literally, there is nothing new. Its all just Space Shuttle parts. The boosters, the core stage, the engines.

[Anonymous No.11502119]

>>11501914
and the camper ship from Spaceballs

[Anonymous No.11502182]

>>11502083
>SLS is nothing more than a reconfiguration of Space Shuttle parts. Literally, there is nothing new. Its all just Space Shuttle parts. The boosters, the core stage, the engines.

Anon confirmed for knowing absolutely nothing about SLS, RS-25s are the only thing they share.

[Anonymous No.11502186]

>>11502182
>oh wow our SRBs have two more segments

[Anonymous No.11502198]

>>11502182
SRB and core stage are modified Shuttle design parts as well. Engines are already made engines directly from Shuttle.

[Anonymous No.11502199]

>>11502182
While that anon did simplify what the SLS is, he does have a point in that the project is long overdue considering how simple it should be. The engines and boosters were already done. All that was needed (in terms of major components) are the core propellant tanks and the avionics. Both shouldn't have taken nearly a decade to complete.

[Anonymous No.11502208]

>>11502198
And the upper stage comes fromth3 delta v
Somehow they spend a decade on development of this

[Anonymous No.11502441]

>>11502208
>Somehow they spend a decade on development of this
Diversity hires spread across all fifty states are how. The SLS is optimized for politics, not spaceflight.

[Anonymous No.11502528]

>>11501697
>coronavirus halts work for months right before the final stack

[Anonymous No.11502692]

>>11501154
This image is retarded. You don‘t double the length when you double the diameter.

[Anonymous No.11502709]

>>11502692
Just double thrust to weight too mate

[Anonymous No.11502723]

SN3

[Anonymous No.11502726]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5vXbLd_l2g
Neat video

[Anonymous No.11502731]

>>11502723
Is there enough room to stack in there

[Anonymous No.11502735]

>>11502731
Yes

[Anonymous No.11502743]

>>11502735
STACC

T

A

C

C

[Anonymous No.11502755]

>>11502743
Think that SN3 might also just be for pressure tests etc. thus the new 3-raptor force simulator jig at the launch site, and the lack of any RCS units or legs

[Anonymous No.11502767]

>>11502755
Static fires at the very least.

[Anonymous No.11502786]

>>11502735
Thicc

[Anonymous No.11502823]

>>11502735
Jeff who? NASA who? China who? BTFO

[Anonymous No.11502837]

>>11498826
guy on the left has greta pokies

[Anonymous No.11502885]

>>11501154
How is 18m Starship not gonna destroy it's launchpad every time it takes off?

[Anonymous No.11502895]

>>11502885
water

[Anonymous No.11502897]

>>11502885
Sea launch facility that holds the starship on a big milk crate above the water. Starship fires and exhaust is absorbed into the sea.

[Anonymous No.11502908]

>>11502885
Dig a hole

[Anonymous No.11502917]

>>11502755
Where are they supposed to stick the RCS propellant anyway, and surely the RCS thrusters themselves would need to be pretty chunky to control this 1,000 ton behemoth? What about solar arrays? Seems so bare-bones still.

[Anonymous No.11502919]

Welp, Its been a good run everyone.

We got a lot done and found out some cool stuff. Got men on the moon, got pictures and data from multiple body surfaces, and even got some flyby data from some super-distance objects. Some info from outside the solar system to the edge of time.

But, this virus will crash this country, and kill us all. By April the Boca Chica and Blue Origin sites will be empty, and overgrown with plants/animals by this fall. Humans had a good run.

This is the end guys. Go get high and fuck around. We aren't leaving this rock again, and we are never finding life out there. GGQQ.

[Anonymous No.11502920]

>>11502919
>I have paranoid schizophrenia guys

[Anonymous No.11502921]

>>11502723
wait is that the engine stack? It's out of the tent?

Also why does this thing look so much damn taller in the photos than the diagram

[Anonymous No.11502925]

>>11502735
>the virgin core stage
>needlessly sweating about every detail for 2 years, wasting a billion dollars
>rigorous 1 year test campaign because it‘s afraid, wasting 1 billion dollars in the process
>launches empty capsules to nowhere because it has commitment issues
>can‘t cope with the stresses of real life and commits suicide after one day of work

>the chad STACC
>gets built in a month for 5 million cause it doesn‘t afraid of anything
>doesn‘t even care about exploding, just fuel it up and sees if it holds
>boundless enthusiasm, literally launching colony ships to mars
>laughs at death, literally infinitely reusable

[Anonymous No.11502927]

>>11502735
Are they eventually going to rip the legs off starhopper and slap them on this thing

[Anonymous No.11502928]

UFO in Singapore
facebook com/revealed.blog/videos/205747543992173/

sorry if it turns out to be fake, my guess is as good as yours

[Anonymous No.11502931]

>>11502928
Schizo be gone.

[Anonymous No.11502939]

>>11502931
>noooo aliens r impossibl god made us special

[Anonymous No.11502961]

>>11502735
>no legs
>no fins
we're still a month away from testing at this rate

[Anonymous No.11502963]

>>11502939
Noo! Physics are a joke! Of course other lifeforms would use entire sun‘s worth of energy and travel for hundreds of years just to have drag races with our jet fighters for giggles and take meme fotos of us!

[Anonymous No.11502970]

>>11502963
>Of course other lifeforms would use entire sun‘s worth of energy and travel for hundreds of years just to have drag races with our jet fighters for giggles and take meme fotos of us!

Sure. It’s something I would do.
Aliens are the only explanation unless you think humans are the ones with craft that make “physics a joke”.

[Anonymous No.11502987]

>>11502961
It'd be a waste of time if they fucked something up again. I believe they'd do static pressure tests first, then strap raptors and make engine runs, and only if it's still in one piece and good to go by that time they'll start with all the extra clutter.

[Anonymous No.11502998]

>>11502963
God I want to be fucked by other lifeforms so bad, bros. Ironically haha

[Anonymous No.11503006]

>>11502998
I strongly doubt aliens would have appearances that humans would find attractive, but tentacle porn is relatively popular and furries are a thing, so I dunno.

[Anonymous No.11503024]

>>11502987
i hope youre right

[Anonymous No.11503132]

>Use expendable rocket for next 40 years
The absolute state of Eurocuck

[Anonymous No.11503153]

>>11502709
thrust to area ratio is the important metric

[Anonymous No.11503199]

>china sends people to the moon
do they go apollo style or gateway style?

[Anonymous No.11503205]

>>11502919
ok doomer

[Anonymous No.11503229]

>>11503132
>Next 40 years
Isn't Ariane6 having a bunch of development problems?

[Anonymous No.11503244]

>>11502885
What, you want rapidly reusable launch pads?

[Anonymous No.11503246]

>>11503132
Look at this well and know this is how spaceflight works and will work if things go wrong with elon's scrapyard.

[Anonymous No.11503247]

>>11503132
We already now that ESA is looking in to a making a falcon9 clone.

[Anonymous No.11503255]

>>11503229
Ariane 6 is still on track for first flight late this year, as far as I know. There's not a lot of discussion about it.

[Anonymous No.11503271]

>>11503255
Well yeah, it will fly ten times and then either survive on government handouts or die.
It‘s also not incredibly exciting. They streamlined the design and production a little, which is nice, I guess. But it‘s still just an expendable satellite taxi at the end of the day.

[Anonymous No.11503279]

>>11503271
My bullish guess is that Ariane 6 is two technological generations out of date and its fate as a dead end will be secured within five years of its arrival.

[Anonymous No.11503402]

>>11502920
Manic Depressive, waiting 6 months for an actual diagnosis.

But there won't be a planet in 6 months so there ya go.

[Anonymous No.11503475]

So has there been a report published on the failure of that Indian mission from last year? I think it was a Mars rover.

[Anonymous No.11503516]

>>11503132
I don't think those rockets will be "leading the charge" for the next 40 years. They don't do anything special that rockets 40 years ago have already done. Surely they'll be replaced by reusable rockets.

[Anonymous No.11503528]

>>11503516
I wonder how many years it will take before esa has a working falcon 9 clone.
Starship probably will be on mars by then.

[Anonymous No.11503536]

>>11503402
>a 2% death rate flu will destroy an entire planet

Yeah, your mental illness is obvious.

[Anonymous No.11503559]

>>11503516
I wonder of these kind of retractable landing legs are only obvious in retrospect or were always a clear choice (c.f. classic sci-fi solid landing legs). Will we ever see a fundamentally different type of leg on regular sized rockets?

[Anonymous No.11503561]

>>11503536
It's not a simple flu, this shit will get a lot worse before it gets better, but that's not what i'm woried about, it's the economic recession that is going to fuck over a lot of people.

>hey nasa, sorry, but were going to cut your budget in half, the economy is in the shitter and we dont have enough money to pay the foodstamps.

That's a very likely scenario.

[Anonymous No.11503587]

>>11503528
Hopefully not too long, because I want more diversity in reusable rocket owners.

>>11503559
My guess is that they seemed obvious for SpaceX because they can be bolted to the sides of a rocket that wasn't originally meant for reuse without adding much drag. Plus they have a pretty wide base.

[Anonymous No.11503684]

>>11503528
Reusability is too efficient so they want nothing to do with it. Unironically. Just like the congressional rocket division, jobs are everything.

Everyone copying F9 is short-sighted at best, anyway. It's just going to be sad seeing F9 clones come online after the original has already been obsoleted by full reusability.

[Anonymous No.11503691]

>>11503684
>Just like the congressional rocket division, jobs are everything.
I'd rather have moon colonization jobs than "hey let's clone Soyuz again" jobs. Fucking bureaucrats.

[Anonymous No.11503693]

>>11503247
Aren't they planning to do "reuse" by trying to just capture the engines in mid-air?
Good luck with that, not only is parts capture not yet proven (see SpaceX's results with fairing capture), but then you still have to keep building new cores. At least they can still make them out of their beloved aluminum alloys, lovingly friction-stir welded to perfection by only the finest chefs!

[Anonymous No.11503706]

>>11503561
NASA is too popular among normies to cut their budget, as much as they deserve it
and SpaceX, the only one actually doing anything, is a private company that gives no fucks about what budgets uncle sam makes

[Anonymous No.11503726]

>>11503693
>Aren't they planning to do "reuse" by trying to just capture the engines in mid-air?
No, that's ULA's SMART reuse concept. ESA did look at a engine pod recovery method, but it would fly back under it's own power (pic related). Honestly, I don't see that getting any further now that it's been proven that the whole rocket can be returned to be reused. A methalox Falcon 9, like in Retalt 1, while abit slow compared to SpaceX is a step in the right direction.

[Anonymous No.11503759]

[Anonymous No.11503765]

>>11503759

[Anonymous No.11503773]

>>11503759
>>11503765
We could've spent the last 30 years in LEO with this as the international space station, but instead we were stuck with a collection of small cans.

[Anonymous No.11503781]

>>11503773
It was the first victim of the design-by-committee Shuttle.

[Anonymous No.11503795]

>>11503773
>>11503781
No use crying over spilled milk. What's done is done, can't change the mistakes of the past.
What we can do is learn from them. Prevent NASA from repeating them.

[Anonymous No.11503805]

>>11503795
>What we can do is learn from them. Prevent NASA from repeating them.
An issue is that it seems like NASA is going to repeat the same mistakes without much of a way to stop them. Really the only way to stop them is to have someone else upstage them so much that the US government finally gets encouraged to clean house for NASA's management.

[Anonymous No.11503861]

>>11503528
I’d say never
These sorts of people making it are closer to bureaucrats than real engineers or scientists
They don’t have someone like musk standing there going “why does this cost so much?”

[Anonymous No.11503867]

>>11503805
Is NASA's management really the problem?
Isn't the problem more that every new administration, every time congress changes hands the goals change?
They start working on something only for it to be cancelled for something else.

But you're right, we need an enemy. Having an actual adversary would force congress to take NASA more seriously. To unify goals and targets.

[Anonymous No.11503879]

>>11503867
>Is NASA's management really the problem?
Like any government agency these days it's full of incompetent diversity hires and bureaucratic bloat.
>Isn't the problem more that every new administration, every time congress changes hands the goals change?
>They start working on something only for it to be cancelled for something else.
That doesn't help either, but the SLS has taken a GENERATION and has produced zero space missions. The Apollo era guys would have had them all shot.

[Anonymous No.11503885]

>>11503867
>Is NASA's management really the problem?
More like a symptom of the US government not taking space flight seriously. If the government did take it seriously, then they would replace NASA's management with people who can lead a space agency rather than job padders.

>Isn't the problem more that every new administration, every time congress changes hands the goals change?
That's the biggest issue with how NASA is handled, yes.

>But you're right, we need an enemy. Having an actual adversary would force congress to take NASA more seriously.
Or at the very least someone who shows that NASA is clearly behind in space flight rather than the world leader that the US want them to be. It doesn't have to be an enemy. A company like SpaceX beating NASA to the moon or Mars might achieve the same effect.

[Anonymous No.11503908]

>>11503879
>Like any government agency these days it's full of incompetent diversity hires and bureaucratic bloat.
I suppose you're right about the bloat.
>The Apollo era guys would have had them all shot.
Didn't one of the astronauts who went to the moon complain about this? I googled it - couldn't find it. But I remember a retired astronaut shitting on NASA.
>>11503885
>That's the biggest issue with how NASA is handled, yes.
It's a pervasive generational problem. Won't be fixed without societal change or a need.
> A company like SpaceX beating NASA to the moon or Mars might achieve the same effect.
I don't think so. I think most Americans would be okay with a private American company reaching the stars. We'd be irate if it was a foreign nation or government, however.

[Anonymous No.11503918]

>>11503867
>Is NASA's management really the problem?
No. Politicians are.

[Anonymous No.11503921]

>>11503908
>I don't think so. I think most Americans would be okay with a private American company reaching the stars.
The American public might, but the politicians may be abit upset that a company is doing more than their national space agency. NASA is already doing very little that gains public attention, and a private company 'stealing' the spotlight from NASA may convince the public to be even less interested in NASA and thus vote for politicians who would be against more funding for NASA.

>We'd be irate if it was a foreign nation or government, however.
Absolutely, but oddly I kinda want it to happen.

[Anonymous No.11503961]

>noone posting the spaceforce launch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBdu3JxgaMM

[Anonymous No.11503966]

>>11503961
Also the official ULA stream:
https://youtu.be/YBkB1BbblN0

[Anonymous No.11503967]

>>11503961
Also some zoomer edited NASA's year in review video:
https://youtu.be/HhBUmxEOfpc

[Anonymous No.11503972]

>>11503961
>>11503966
>>11503967
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.11503999]

HOLD HOLD HOLD

[Anonymous No.11504000]

HOLD HOLD HOLD

[Anonymous No.11504002]

rip?

[Anonymous No.11504019]

>>11503999
>>11504000
>Today’s Atlas launch of #AHEF6 will fly several #Vulcan systems: Common Avionics (again) and upgrades to the ground support systems.
well there you go. New things often fail.

[Anonymous No.11504023]

>>11503999
>>11504000
The payload as corona, also double tip checked.

[Anonymous No.11504044]

>>11504019
>Bruno: Ground hydraulics accumulator fault. Working it

[Anonymous No.11504054]

>>11501705
I posted HOPE a while back, they're about potential missions to Callisto. Cool mission ideas, though they all use extremely optimistic estimates for their propulsion technology (like fusion). Here's one with a slightly more realistic magnetoplasmadynamic engine.

[Anonymous No.11504058]

>>11504054
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20040005901.pdf
oops forgot to link study

[Anonymous No.11504063]

>>11503759
Reminder elon's scrapship is bigger than this.

[Anonymous No.11504066]

what's the point of ISS data about human habitability in space structures if they're below the van allen belt? Microgravity is not a big deal

[Anonymous No.11504067]

>>11504066
Funding farming i.e. stealing tax dollars.

[Anonymous No.11504074]

>>11503867
It should not take more than one 8 year administration to get shit done
That sorta talk is just an excuse for nasa to spend 500 million on a project form20 years straight and nothing to show for it

[Anonymous No.11504077]

>>11504054
>Cool mission ideas, though they all use extremely optimistic estimates for their propulsion technology (like fusion)
We're up to 10s of µs with Z-pinch fusion, that's only a few orders of magnitude off from usable.

https://arxiv.org/abs/1806.05894

[Anonymous No.11504078]

>>11504066
It's the biggest bestest thing they could do that fulfilled the major requirements of being reachable by shuttles and russian craft. Sort of like the gateway with the SLS.

[Anonymous No.11504119]

>>11504044
>Bad amplifier card in the hydraulic system.

[Anonymous No.11504144]

>>11504119
And they don't have spares on hand?

[Anonymous No.11504146]

>>11504077
>that's only a few orders of magnitude off from usable
So it's literally nothing, got it.

[Anonymous No.11504151]

>>11503759
>ywn have this much fun

[Anonymous No.11504154]

>>11503759
I wonder, does dizziness not happen in 0g?

[Anonymous No.11504157]

>>11504119
>Bad amplifier card in the hydraulic system
Dadrock system not playing Ted Nugent at a satisfying bitrate?

[Anonymous No.11504158]

Launch in 8 minutes.

[Anonymous No.11504170]

>>11504158
hold released

[Anonymous No.11504180]

that's a big fairing

[Anonymous No.11504186]

[Anonymous No.11504192]

woosh

[Anonymous No.11504194]

>>11504180

[Anonymous No.11504197]

Stage sep.

[Anonymous No.11504235]

>>11504154
According to astronauts, not really. In the first few days your brain learns to ignore your inner ear signals in zero G, and since dizziness comes from the signals from your inner ear not matching your other senses, if your brain is ignoring those signals already then nothing really happens.

[Anonymous No.11504245]

Tory Bruno has a kerbal plushie behind his desk

[Anonymous No.11504252]

>>11503795
>no use crying over spilt milk
we can still kill those responsible for spilling it

[Anonymous No.11504257]

What toaster are they using for the 3d representation?

[Anonymous No.11504274]

>>11504257
I think it's the Amiga Video-Toaster from 1993 they used for Babylon 5's first seasons.

[Anonymous No.11504288]

>>11504274
Heh, I actually used Lightwave 3D back on the Amiga in those days. Now that would be beyond the capabilities of that old genlock box. It was not really capable of anything realtime past genlocking.

[Anonymous No.11504347]

>>11504197
now that this has launched successfully, are there any other scheduled launches? as far as I can tell, EVERYTHING has been delayed due to Corona-virus shutdowns.

[Anonymous No.11504348]

>>11504347
SpaceX has a couple coming up, including a manned Commercial Crew launch in May and another round of Starlink birds.

[Anonymous No.11504351]

retards on NSF are trying to redesign Starship plumbing
lmao

[Anonymous No.11504357]

>>11504348
Here's hoping that shit doesn't get postponed indefinitely due to the sniffles.

[Anonymous No.11504367]

>>11504347
>are there any other scheduled launches?

There’s a crewed Soyuz launch next month, US military launches will supposedly continue, Perseverance is NASA’s biggest short-term priority and Chinese launches will continue as normal.

[Anonymous No.11504368]

>>11504351
>retards
literally oldspace boomers dude, lots of very respected names on that website

[Anonymous No.11504374]

>>11504367
>Chinese launches will continue as normal.
which means: unannounced until the last minute.
Probably a Long March 11 next, but might be a Long March 5B for their next generation crewed capsule prototype, or their infrequently-used Long March 2F for a prototype space plane!

[Anonymous No.11504506]

>>11504351
Feel free to steal their pictures, but I really don‘t need updates on their board culture.

[Anonymous No.11504509]

>>11504506
almost everything that gets posted here comes, directly or indirectly, from NSF

[Anonymous No.11504543]

>>11504509
Don't forget about the occasional insiders who anonymously gives information.

Today's froyo flavors are mango and French vanilla.

[Anonymous No.11504548]

>>11504543
froyo machine's closed on account of pandemic, anon

[Anonymous No.11504550]

>>11504548
And how would you know that?

[Anonymous No.11504594]

Is Boca closing now?

[Anonymous No.11504640]

>*Record scratch* “Your probably wondering, how I got here”...

[Anonymous No.11504691]

>>11503006
>I strongly doubt aliens would have appearances that humans would find attractive
You have clearly never spent any meaningful amount of time on /d/.

[Anonymous No.11504744]

>>11503006
There is one thing you can be sure off, when man finaly start exploring the stars and meets new species, he will find a way to fuck it.
And the chinese would probably eat them.

[Anonymous No.11504776]

>>11503921
All it takes is the Chinese to announce it and the burgers will lose their shit and drop everything to get there.
For this reason I reckon the chinks wouldn't announce a mission until shortly before going.

[Anonymous No.11504785]

Guys, i just found out about how boeing managed to leech more money out of the artemis program.
These fuckers are the reason why the the chinks are going to win the new moon race.

[Anonymous No.11504791]

>>11504785
Care to expand on that?

[Anonymous No.11504794]

>>11504785
it's from a scott manley clip, something about congress putting gateway on the backburner instead of pushing for 2024 because SLS needs more money.

[Anonymous No.11504808]

>>11502963
>Of course other lifeforms would use entire sun‘s worth of energy and travel for hundreds of years just to have drag races with our jet fighters for giggles and take meme fotos of us!

[Anonymous No.11504819]

>>11502963
>Of course other lifeforms would use entire sun‘s worth of energy and travel for hundreds of years just to have drag races with our jet fighters for giggles and take meme fotos of us!
That's probably like getting a puppy for a Kardashev 3 civ.

[Anonymous No.11504849]

>>11504785
>>11504794
The decision to put Gateway on the backburner has nothing to do with Congress, it was made by Doug Loverro, NASA’s human spaceflight chief due to technical, budget and schedule concerns. Where Boeing comes into the picture is a quote from the same interview with Doug, where he mentioned that he preferred simpler lander designs over three-stage ones due to less points of failure etc. Boeing’s bid for the Artemis crewed lander is two-stage lander that launches on SLS, meaning it fits the bill of a simpler design. This doesn’t mean Boeing will win, we have very little insight into the bids and selection process.

[Anonymous No.11504859]

>>11504849
Boeing's lander is the ONLY two stage design
everybody else's is three stage

[Anonymous No.11504893]

>>11504859
That may not be the case, we know very little about Dynetics’ bid or others that have not been disclosed. Furthermore, Blue Origin’s initially three-stage bid could have been modified to fit the new strategy.

[Anonymous No.11504904]

>cancel gateway
>more money to boeing

I fucking HATE Boeing.

[Anonymous No.11504909]

>>11504904
>Gateway not cancelled
>Boeing hasn’t received anymore money yet

?

[Anonymous No.11504919]

>>11503706
>NASA is too popular among normies to cut their budget

AND-THEY-SAID-I-AM-CRAZY

[Anonymous No.11504929]

>>11504909
To be fair for that anon, it was assured that HR5666 was merely a proposal and that it shouldn't be treated seriously until it was starting to be treated seriously by NASA.

>>11504919
This, NASA is popular, but really only because of stuff they've done in the past and the far future plans (that most might as well be sci fi) they keep producing. Their budget means nothing for that.

[Anonymous No.11504955]

>>11504919
The constellation reached the end of its program, it wasn’t cut
They got as far as “we didn’t even fucking start and Orion is too heavy for the Ares 1”

[Anonymous No.11504965]

>>11504849
>still doing bidding for landers
Ahh the fun of
NASA space programs
But don’t worry a man on the moon for 2024 right?

[Anonymous No.11504984]

>>11504909
Read between the lines retard.

[Anonymous No.11505007]

>>11504929
their budget might nor mean anything, but any politician who says "lets cut NASA harder than a quirky teenage girl's arms" will have pineapples rammed up their ass for it

[Anonymous No.11505016]

>>11505007
Not if its used to fight corona or for corona related gibs. They have free reign to cut pretty much whatever they want at this point, you think normies are going to give a fuck they cut le ebin science budget to buy ventilators and hospital equipment? They'll probably get more fucking votes.

[Anonymous No.11505032]

>>11504640

[Anonymous No.11505662]

>>11504849
Wait, I thought they had specifically asked for a three stage design initially.

[Anonymous No.11505937]

>>11505662
They don't know what they want, except to give more money to boing.

[Anonymous No.11506033]

>>11504919
Something crossed my mind

Nixon approved the space shuttle in 72 and it was operational in 81, 9 years later

SLS was announced in 2011 and it's 2020, 9 years later and no fucking rocket

The space shuttle was a revolutionary and complex vehicle, it was nothing like the articles it replaced.

SLS is literally a dumbed-down space shuttle design with the shuttle part removed. Everything else is established science from 1981

[Anonymous No.11506058]

>>11506033
Wow this just occurred to you?

[Anonymous No.11506088]

>>11506033
>SLS is literally a dumbed-down space shuttle design with the shuttle part removed. Everything else is established science from 1981