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Buckle up. We're going to live forever.

https://youtu.be/9-z0kglwpwo

>> No.11419813

Aubrey is a woman name

>> No.11419820

>>11419799
YOU MOTHER FUCKER ARE ONLY SEEKING ATTENTION WITH STUPID KNOWN SHIT THAT YOU REPEAT IN EVERY INTERVIEW INSTEAD OF DOING ACTUAL RESEARCH? KYS

>> No.11419824

Joe is 52 and this dude is 56.

>> No.11419825

>>11419799
Aubrey de GAY

>> No.11419861
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>> No.11419868

>>11419861
No i have not. Drugs are illegal. what now rogan?

>> No.11419880
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>>11419813
It's Drake's real name

>> No.11419898

I don't know what it is but I he reminds me of Guthrie Govan

>> No.11419901

>>11419880
That explains a lot

>> No.11420350

>>11419825
lol nice one

>> No.11420362

>>11419799
based. there is no more pressing issue than aging. nothing matters when you're dead.

>> No.11420542

>>11419868
you like the taste of boot?

>> No.11420548

>>11419825
Imagine receiving such a sick burn, then having to live with it forever

>> No.11420555
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>>11420548
ha ha... imagine getting a cute gf ha ha... and cuddling in bed with her forever... ha . ha.

>> No.11420558
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I SUCK FUCK

>> No.11420567

>>11420558
How does one suck fuck exactly?

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>>11420567

>> No.11420807

>>11419799
Woah 1 hour 40 minutes... Joe must hate this guy.

>> No.11420874
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>>11419799
Fuck that. Give me death's cold embrace.

>> No.11420938
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>>11419799
based

>>11419824
57

>>11419825
based. I love that man

>> No.11420948

garbage e-celeb youtube is not science or math
snake oil salesman is not science or math

Fuck off with your garbage threads promoting these pseuds fucking kike.

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>>11420948
>pseud calling legendary scientists pseuds
fuck off pseud

>> No.11420955

>>11420948
the reeeee is strong in this one

>> No.11421043

>there won't be any 500 year olds in 400 years
>Why not?
Based and terminally retardpilled

>> No.11421052

>>11419799
literally who?

>> No.11421368

>>11421052
Aubrey de Grey and Joe Rogan

>> No.11421375

the cunt who posts the how to stop aging threads is gonna love this haha.

at any rate, his progress on the hadwiger-nelson conjecture was a significant achievement.

>> No.11421973

>>11420938
I am 27 and I am already bored out of my fucking mind and the infromation age makes it seem like you've already seen/heard everything. And I hardly let an exciting life, quite the contrary. I can't imagine not wanting to kill myself after even a hundred years, let alone longer than that.

>> No.11422022

>>11421973
>lacking imagination

>> No.11422039

>>11421973
>I am 27 and I am already bored out of my fucking mind

That is 100% your problem.

>> No.11422049

>>11422022
Everything can still be broken down to base desires, patterns, and dopamine hits. Once you've seen enough, you can only hope to rearrange stuff to get a somewhat new experience, but you won't be able to do that for excessively long periods of time, let alone forever.
Maybe in the future with mind design and DNA manipulation you could permanently alter your state of mind so that it doesn't become a problem and you don't have to crave meaning and can just be content, while staying productive. I don't see any other way out for a modern society.

>> No.11422061

>>11420555
Who is that person? She looks like she’s fucking starving to death

>> No.11422063

>>11420874
Blow your brains out then depressed fag

>> No.11422068

>>11422049
>I impose my own failures onto everyone else: the post

Modern society is incredibly enjoyable for me.

>> No.11422078
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>>11419799
It's important to understand that in order to make people superfluous, machines will not have to surpass them in general intelligence but only in certain specialized kinds of intelligence. For example, the machines will not have to create or understand art, music, or literature, they will not need the ability to carry on an intelligent, non-technical conversation (the "Turing test"), they will not have to exercise tact or understand human nature, because these skills will have no application if humans are to be eliminated anyway. To make humans superfluous, the machines will only need to outperform them in making the technical decisions that have to be made for the purpose of promoting the short-term survival and propagation of the dominant self-prop systems. So, even without going as far as the techies themselves do in assuming intelligence on the part of future machines, we still have to conclude that humans will become obsolete. Immortality in the form (i)-the indefinite preservation of the human body as it exits today-is highly improbable.

The techies of course will argue that even if the human body and brain as we know them become obsolete, immortality in the form (ii) can still be achieved: Man-machine hybrids will permanently retain their usefulness, because by linking themselves with ever-more-powerful machines human beings (or what is left of them) will be able to remain competitive with pure machines.

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>>11419799
>>11422078
But man-machine hybrids will retain a biological component derived from human beings only as long as the human-derived biological component remains useful. When purely artificial components become available that provide a better cost-versus-benefit balance than human-derived biological components do, the latter will be discarded and the man-machine hybrids will lose their human aspect to become wholly artificial. Even if the human-derived biological components are retained they will be purged, step by step, of the human qualities that detract from their usefulness. The self-prop systems to which the man-machine hybrids belong will have no need for such human weaknesses as love, compassion, ethical feelings, esthetic appreciation, or desire for freedom. Human emotions in general will get in the way of the self-prop systems' utilization of the man-machine hybrids, so if the latter are to remain competitive they will have to be altered to remove their human emotions and replace these with other motivating forces. In short, even in the unlikely event that some biological remnants of the human race are preserved in the form of man-machine hybrids, these will be transformed into something totally alien to human beings as we know them today.

The same applies to the hypothesized survival of human minds in "uploaded" form inside machines. The uploaded minds will not be tolerated indefinitely unless they remain useful (that is, more useful than any substitutes not derived from human beings), and in order to remain useful they will have to be transformed until they no longer have anything in common with the human minds that exist today.

>> No.11422083

>>11422078
It’s the terrorist copy-pasta again. Cringe.

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>>11419799
>>11422081
Some techies may consider this acceptable. But their dream of immortality is illusory nonetheless. Competition for survival among entities derived from human beings (whether man-machine hybrids, purely artificial entities evolved from such hybrids, or human minds uploaded into machines), as well as competition between human-derived entities and those machines or other entities that are not derived from human beings, will lead to the elimination of all but some minute percentage of all the entities involved. This has nothing to do with any specific traits of human beings or of their machines; it is a general principle of evolution through natural selection. Look at biological evolution: Of all the species that have ever existed on Earth, only some tiny percentage have direct descendants that are still alive today. On the basis of this principle alone, and even discounting everything else we've said in this chapter, the chances that any given techie will survive indefinitely are minute.

>> No.11422089

>>11422068
It is, but you will get tired of it. If not in 50 years, then in 100. If not, then in 200.

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>>11419799
>>11422087
The techies may answer that even if almost all biological species are eliminated eventually, many species survive for thousands or millions of years, so maybe techies too can survive for thousands or millions of years. But when large, rapid changes occur in the environment of biological species, both the rate of appearance of new species and the rate of extinction of existing species are greatly increased. Technological progress constantly accelerates, and techies like Ray Kurzweil insist that it will soon become virtually explosive; consequently, changes come more and more rapidly, everything happens faster and faster, competition among self-prop systems becomes more and more intense, and as the process gathers speed the losers in the struggle for survival will be eliminated ever more quickly. So, on the basis of the techies' own beliefs about the exponential acceleration of technological development, it's safe to say that the life-expectancies of human-derived entities, such as man-machine hybrids and human minds uploaded into machines, will actually be quite short. The seven-hundred year or thousand-year life-span to which some techies aspire is nothing but a pipe-dream.

>> No.11422094

>>11422089
>It is, but you will get tired of it.

Nope. I greatly anticipate future developments.

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>>11422089
>implying you couldn't just use wireheading to make yourself incapable of feeling boredom, or any other form of suffering

https://qualiacomputing.com/2016/08/20/wireheading_done_right/

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>>11422083
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE UNABOMBERINO! EVERYONE KNOWS THAT HIM BEING A TERRORIST MAKES HIM AUTOMATICALLY WRONG ABOUT TECHNOLOGY! BOMBER MAN BAD!

>> No.11422119

>>11419799
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxEwI1bjZqU

>> No.11422123

>>11422110
>Nah dude this terrorist had some good points not like those other terrorists

Cringe. You have fun eating moss or whatever it is you do for fun.

>> No.11422124

>>11422110
Imagine wanting to guarantee the extinction of all life on Earth, without technology, this 100% will occur with time. With technology, it is not a guarantee. By embracing primitivism you are betraying everything the billions of years of evolution has conditioned you for. You are throwing away and making meaningless the struggles of your ancestors. And you have the gall to believe yourself based and redpilled. Technocrats are the true based ones, primcuck

>> No.11422131

>>11422124
Don’t talk to it. It’ll go away and might even realize the contradiction of using technology for fun on the internet and die of cognitive dissonance.

>> No.11422132

>>11422123
>Cringe.
Not an argument

>> No.11422142

>>11422124
How is the extinction of all life a bad thing? Life causes far more suffering than happiness, and no more life means no more suffering. The sooner all sentient life goes extinct, the better. The only reason you think life is better than death is because you're a slave to your animal instincts.

>> No.11422145

>The an prim retard also hates being alive and wants everyone to die

Go figure.

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>>11422131
202. It would be hopeless for revolutionaries to try to attack the system without using SOME modern technology. If nothing else they must use the communications media to spread their message. But they should use modern technology for only ONE purpose: to attack the technological system.

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>>11422145

>> No.11422164

>>11422142
Unironically based

>> No.11422166

>>11422164
>Suicide is based

Go do it, then.

>> No.11422170

>>11422061
I'de complain more about her lizard/reptilian eyes

>> No.11422312

>>11422102
What an absolutely dystopian concept.

I would rather live a thousand years of strife than a million of placid nothingness.
It is the equivalent of being cucked eternal.

>> No.11422327

>>11422142
You stand against everything I believe in. People like you are the only true evil in the world. Chasing nonexistence to avoid suffering is just as base as you claim my goals to be. If had to choose between suffering and Oblivion, I choose suffering.

>> No.11422334

>>11421973
If we can reverse aging we can give you the mental energy to enjoy life easy peasy

>> No.11422395

>>11422312
Why not torture yourself then?

>> No.11422635

>>11419799
classic over optimistic private sector viewpoint looking for investors

>> No.11422670

>>11419813
>The name is traditionally male, but is now more commonly used as a feminine name in the United States.

>> No.11422678

>>11419799
He's been spouting the same nonsense for 20 years.

>> No.11423372

>>11422327
I consider people like you who glorify their suffering and want to inflict it on others to be truly evil. And I am supposedly evil for wanting to reduce suffering. But if you value suffering, I cannot change your values.

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HAVE I MENTIONED I SUCK THE FUCKING FUCK I SUCK FUCK AND PISS SHIT AND SHIT CUNT FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

>> No.11424395

>>11419799
such a boring interview, i'm 40 mins in and they keep blabbing on about how this guy always wanted to leave an impression on earth as a 9 year old, coming across as very self-aggrandizing. does it go into any interesting topics or is it just gossip all the way through?

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>>11424395
They barely touch on anything of note. He pays lip service to stem cell therapy and senolytics, but there's literally no actual scientific discussion in the entire interview. Absolutely infuriating to listen to.

>> No.11424556

>>11424542
thank you for saving over an hour of my life, i owe you

>> No.11424571

>>11421973
Stop being a NEET.

>> No.11425367

>>11422395
Dumb.
Just because I don't want to become a hedonist vegetable doesn't mean I enjoy pain.