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11407214 No.11407214 [Reply] [Original]

When did you realise and accept that IQ determines your existence and segregates people in categories of superior and interior?
As a low-midwit, with an IQ somewhere in the 115 - 120 range, it's over for me.

>> No.11407220

>tfw used to be high IQ but years of drug abuse sent me straight to midwit realm

>> No.11407221

>>11407214
IQ is less important than working memory, but if you are bad at that too then end yourself lmao

>> No.11407228

>>11407214
Can you retards just make an IQ general or something?

>> No.11407235

>>11407220
>>11407221
>>11407228
IQ is EVERYTHING, anons. If person x has an IQ of 130 and person y has an IQ of 150, person y > x. In ALL aspects. Even if person x is richer or more educated, he will ALWAYS remain inferior to the person with the higher IQ.

>> No.11407236

>>11407214
>IQ somewhere in the 115 - 120 range
>a low-midwit
An IQ of 115+ would put you not only in the upper quartile but in the top 15% -- nowhere near the low to mid distribution range. A real 115+ would realise that, so I suspect 115-120 is an overestimate and you're actually clinically retarded.

>> No.11407244

>>11407236
All IQ is low unless it's high enough for mensa.

>> No.11407251
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11407251

>>11407235
>Sure he's happier, better looking, more qualified, earns more, has a wholesome family life and is more accomplished in every respect than me, but I have a higher IQ and am therefore superior

>> No.11407254

>>11407251
Exactly, thanks for agreeing. IQ > all other aspects of human life.

>> No.11407257

>>11407244
This confirms my suspicion, OP: I'm sorry, but you're clinically retarded.

>> No.11407261

>>11407257
Anon, if your IQ isn't AT LEAST high enough for MENSA, you are an INFERIOR human being. It's okay, I am not high enough for MENSA either and I accept my status as human garbage.

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11407263

>>11407214
that's ok, I'm interior too

>> No.11407278

Regardless of IQ

You have a certain amount of talent and will accomplish a certain amount of things in life regardless

Why be a little bitch about it

>> No.11407279

>>11407261
>Yes so that's $40 for the test and $70 every year for us to tell you how important the test is and how special you really are

>> No.11407282

>>11407254
Only high IQs can understand that. Life is the same for everyone. Everybody eats, sleeps, works, fucks. But high IQs mog them all.
If you're not part of it, you're on the other side.

>> No.11407283

>>11407278
>>11407279
I too tried to resist accepting the final ultimatum, the crossing of the rubicon for the IQ question. I tried to cope with environmental explanations, I tried to denigrate IQ as a non-scientific concept, but no matter what I tried, IQ was still there, glaring me in the face. I had to accept it.

>> No.11407294

IQ isn't everything, personality is pretty important, you can be high IQ and a complete social sperg or psychopathic like the jews.

>> No.11407297

>>11407283
the only thing you can do is understand where you are at and move forward

both low and high IQ people can accomplish nothing by sitting around and moping. or they can do the opposite

>> No.11407299

>>11407297
High IQ people don't need to accomplish anything, they are superior by simply existing.

>> No.11407303

>>11407299
only if you think so

they end up a taking dirt nap like everyone else eventually

>> No.11407327

>>11407236
>>11407251
Truth is in the middle. Being happy is your primary goal, but having a high intellect (not necessarily IQ) does make you more valuable in the eyes of others than almost anything else, except maybe looks.

>> No.11407340

>>11407283
On a board full of aspie shitposters, IQ determinists are among the most autistic. They can't cope with reality and instead externalise all their problems. You say your life sucks because your low IQ makes it so, but ignore inconvenient and demonstrable facts such as: even half-wits can lead high-quality lives and achieve great success. Conversely, highly-intelligent people can engage is destructive behaviour and throw their lives away, having achieved absolutely nothing worth mentioning. Your inability to distinguish between likelihood and determination shows how small your brain is and how nihilistic and empty your life must be. The quality of your life is not contingent upon an IQ score, and it most certainly is not fully-determined by it.

>> No.11407351

>>11407340
There no point having a success or a happy life if you are a low IQ subhuman. Chimps are happy throwing shit at each other and eating flies, but would you want to be one?

>> No.11407356
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>>11407214
(1/2)
conscientiousness + high intelligence = successful
conscientiousness + average/low intelligence = successful
laziness + high intelligence = loser
laziness + low intelligence = loser

If you are hard working you will be successful in some respect as long as your intelligence isn't a handicap.

Do not forget that intelligence is extremely relative. You are a genius to a retard and vice versa.

A retard can think of something profound that an extremely intelligent person can struggle with. Such is the way of randomness.

You claiming that you are in a specific range means that you haven't taken a proper test probably. If that's the case you are most likely under or over estimating yourself. More likely under than over.

IQ is just an attempt at measuring someone's ability to take in new information and understand it. I will agree that intelligence is a factor that others depend on to a respectable degree, but IQ isn't everything in life. It's only one of many other things such as attractiveness, height, physical strength, etc. Even if it isn't completely accurate it's the best procedural way of determining someone's level of intelligence and I think most people would agree with that. If you want to be a metacontrarion go for it.

>> No.11407357

>>11407351
>There no point having a success or a happy life
There no point NOT having a success or a happy life

Damn, maybe there's no point either way. Who'da thunk it

>> No.11407358

>>11407356
(2/2)

However, I know a far better test and I'm willing to share it with you. That test is called competition. It's a natural test that is arguably far more accurate than some simple set of puzzles. Go out and try to be the best at something that requires thought. Whether it be a video game, academia, business, or any other competitive endeavor. How far and fast you get in terms of skill relative to other people is a far more accurate way of measuring your potential. Sure there will be randomness and variance in your journey there. Your ability to get through that randomness and variance is a reflection of your conscientiousness and intelligence. If you give up when things get random you're lazy or stupid. If you persist through the randomness you're hardworking or intelligent.

So before one of you confused asshats that see this make another one of these threads please consider the information above. Make models like the one above on your own. Quit relying on others for structure. I'm tired of it. Many others are tired of it. Quit being oblivious.

If you can't become the best at something and you're upset about it then I hope your pool of tears quickly becomes mixture with blood. Life isn't fair. Life is pointlessly maintaining homeostasis (not a bad thing, recondition yourself you ape). Life is playing towards your advantages. Life is a game. Try to be net positive in the end and from some frame of reference you won. What's the point of winning? Beats me, but it seems like the right thing so might as well do it.

>> No.11407371

>>11407356
>laziness + high intelligence = loser
Not always, but I agree that most of the time it is like this.

>> No.11407379

>>11407356
>>11407340
Truth

>> No.11407457

Saying you need a high IQ to be happy is like saying you need to have sex to be happy

>> No.11407469

If you are an artist 130 is enough. =/

>> No.11407472

>>11407214
but if you are an math prof. Better reach 160 or you are an trash human with dumb dna.

>> No.11407474
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11407474

fuck iq, stop fucking whining, dont fucking quit

>> No.11407475
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11407475

>>11407474

>> No.11407483

>>11407474
> “Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan Press On! has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.”

>> No.11407484

>>11407483
thanks bro

>> No.11407486

Why do you insist on self-limiting thoughts such as these?
Do what you can with what you have. Not much else matters.

>> No.11407488

>>11407474
If you fail 1 trillion times trying the same shit, whats the value of your effort?

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11407493

>>11407488
you can change what you do all you want. hell, i advise it. that's how you find what you're good at. but don't fucking quit trying.

>> No.11407496

>>11407488
>whats the value of your effort?
You will be quoted on the internet.

>> No.11407497

>>11407474
>>11407475
>>11407483
>>11407484
>>11407486
>>11407488
>>11407493
The final COPE of the IQlet.

>> No.11407500
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11407500

>>11407497
malignant narcissism

>> No.11407505

>>11407496
Y plz quote me, and try to deduct what it means.
And bash this in everyone stupid skull.

>> No.11407511

δI/δL= T^2/(4π^2 ) (MgR^2)/1

>> No.11407521

>>11407497
I don't even think my IQ is likely that low. But I'm certainly not stupid enough to think it's everything in life.

>> No.11407528

>>11407500
I really like that gif

>> No.11407537

>>11407521
But naive enough to ignore nature.

>> No.11407544

>>11407537
Well, aren't persistence, physical fit and other features also important in nature?

>> No.11407555

>>11407544
Care bout you sheeps and push theme down the cliff, I will care about the Shepard who cant distinguish between animal and human.

>> No.11407564

>>11407528
Go ahead its all yours
You can save it if you want to

>> No.11407567
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11407567

>>11407555
illiterate trips
god damnit

>> No.11407574

>>11407327
>Being happy is your primary goal
midwit

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>>11407574

>> No.11407582

>>11407574
if not that, then what? isn't everything you do to achieve happiness (be it intellectual fulfillment or just pleasure in general)?

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>>11407582
this. i got pathological altruism, the only way i can be happy is trying to make the world not so fucking shitty. i am always confused as to whether or not im achieving or failing. shit's fucking crazy

>> No.11407591

>>11407588
succeeding or failing rather

>> No.11408205

>>11407214
i sat a medical entrance exam today that largely depends on iq as it measures your logical reasoning/problem solving skills etc and it's mostly aptitude, something you can't study for other than familiarize yourself with the exam

if i don't make it through i'm gonna kill myself, i can't live life as a midwit sucker

>> No.11408219

>>11407574
This, if happiness was the goal we would all just be hooked on heroin

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>>11408219
holy shit you're fucking stupid

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>>11407214

>> No.11409103

>>11409069
original had 145+ instead of 130+, It seems that your iq is lower than 145 am i right

>> No.11409128

>>11408219
>heroin
>long-term happiness
jej

>> No.11410062

iq = most important thing in life
literally dictates whether or not you will make it

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>>11407263
>tfw

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>>11409069
fixed for accuracy.

>> No.11410107

>>11407574
This. /sci/ has run amok with midwittery.

>> No.11410110
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11410110

>>11407283
this

>> No.11410120

>>11407358
>How far and fast you get in terms of skill relative to other people is a far more accurate way of measuring your potential
What if I take years to master a skill, while another ashkenazi masters it in 1-2 years? Ain't I inferior? And what if that skill is such, that my life depends on it, I'm fucked!

>> No.11410121

>>11407214
my fiancee has an IQ of 121 and she's running a fairly successful business. I am pretty much leeching off her wealth despite the WISC stating I am more intelligent
Might be because she's Asian though

>> No.11410129

>>11407214
IQ doesn’t matter. You guys are obsessed with biological essentialism because you want your failings to not be your fault

>> No.11410130

>>11410129
Have you won a Field's medal? If not, then why?

>> No.11410254

>>11407214
???

>> No.11410263

>>11407214
correlation != causation

apply this idea to iq and success and then ask yourself if you are being a retard

protip: you are

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11410269

>>11407214
>It took 5 minutes to debunk OP

>> No.11410326

>>11410269
Doing well in math and sci given unknown but conceptually similar questions is the same as having good SAT scores. Read between the lines, retard.

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>>11410326

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11410372

>>11410347
This you, anon.

>> No.11410384

>>11410326
>grades of a year long course is the same as a single test you take ~3 times in your life
>I'm the retard

>> No.11410387

>>11409069
>>11409103
Exactly. Having an IQ of 130 is a fucking curse. You're just smart enough to realise almost everyone is a gullible moron, but not smart enough to do anything worthwhile with your intelligence.

>> No.11410392

>>11410387
This is retarded and I'm not convinced that there are meaningful differences in intelligence after 130
ie no hierarchically spreaded differences in processing speed, originality, reasoning ability, or learning ability

>> No.11410397

>>11410129
IQ matters. It is the single most predictive psychometric ever. Look it up. The average IQ of nobel prize winners is something like 135. So IQ peaks as a meaningful measure around 130-140 and under that you are at a real disadvantage to people in the range
Find me a 100 IQ person that can complete medical school well.

>> No.11410441

>>11410392
With an IQ over 140 you can ace any exam with little effort, which means scholarships for top universities, graduating top of class, obtaining any position you apply for etc.
Between 120-130 IQ you can certainly pass medical school or bar exams but this basically king of the midwits territory.

>> No.11410464

>>11407497
"Yes bro, embrace intellectual defeatism so that I, with my greater number, can feel better about myself"

>> No.11410475

>>11410397
Sure, but to then existentially self-limit based on that predictive metric is nothing but a net negative for yourself and your psyche

>> No.11410482

>>11410384
That single test evaluates your 'raw' performance, not your learned abilities which you get to acquire over the course of months.

>> No.11410486

115-120 man myself. This is about the god tier of IQ. Any higher your bringing on autism, social stunting, mental illness. Any lower and your average.

They say the world is run by us 115-120 IQ folks. I agree

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>>11410486
>115-120 man myself. This is about the god tier of IQ
Actual retard. You're midwit my man.

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>>11410482
>That single test evaluates your 'raw' performance
>not your learned abilities
how the fuck can you have a good raw performance without demonstrating your learned abilities?

>> No.11410507

>>11408223
fucking based comfygif bro
Thank you for your work

>> No.11410511

>>11410486
cope brainlet

>> No.11410513
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>>11410507

>> No.11410518

mid wit is something beyond just IQ and intelligence. theres certain personality traits too, independent of this

>> No.11410519

>>11410499
pattern recognition. This is what IQ is all about. Knowing the the method to solve a math problem is not important, but how will you use that method to creatively solve it is high IQ people have in common.
I used math only as an example, this can be any other subject.

>> No.11410525

>>11410486
No. Are you retarded? The autism cutoff is around 150-160. Most people 130 and up are extremely social. Most of the really social guys I know are actually pretty smart but don't really apply themselves

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>>11410519
>Knowing the method to solve a math problem is not important
> but how will you use that method to creatively solve it is
jesus fucking christ this is funny

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>>11410519
can this be /thread now? this mother fucker probably has double my IQ and look how fucking stupid and high on his own shit he is

>> No.11410568

>>11410526
>>11410553
samefag

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11410570

>>11410568
yes you can tell that by the gifs dipshit

>> No.11410572

>>11410526
Either you're just ameliorating your egoistic standpoint on IQ test or a actual retard. Have you ever questioned yourself, why don't you have a math/physics olympiad medal?

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11410577

>>11410572
>Have you ever questioned yourself, why don't you have a math/physics olympiad medal?
god almighty just shut the fuck up

>> No.11410592

>>11410519
Adding on, pattern recognition is effectively the whole point of our mental faculties. The higher brain, evolutionary, is a predictive machine. Knowledge of patterns help us to predict.

>> No.11410598

>>11410592
this

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>>11410577
Ok, now your posts are just convincing me that you are a retard and most likely a NEET. cope

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>>11410600
that post was far less retarded than the horseshit you were spewing before. good job anon.

>> No.11410605

>>11410577
Also answer my question, do you have a medal in math/physics?

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>>11410605
>do you have a medal in math/physics?
mother fucker im not even in academia, i just liek calling out arrogant stuck-up pricks such as yourself

>> No.11410611

>>11410603
That's literally you!! Good job calling yourself horseshit!!

>> No.11410614

>>11410610
>im not even in academia
NEET then?

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11410615

>>11410605
that metric ton of intelligence you try to pawn yourself off as having is worth not a god damn thing if you don't get control over that putrid putrefying pig disgusting ego

>> No.11410622

>>11410518
>mid wit is something beyond just IQ and intelligence. theres certain personality traits too, independent of this
Can you go into more detail?

>> No.11410626

>>11410615
Cope. Also all olympiad medalist are into academia.

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>>11410626
And it looks liek you have no desire to tame your ego. Enjoy enjoy.

>> No.11410643

>>11410627
How the fuck is that ego when I'm trying to bring you back to earth?I'm a midwit myself.

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>>11410643
>I'm a midwit myself.
idk bro i thought you were defending iq as being valuable lol

>> No.11410665

>>11410649
I'm trying educate people like you that IQ test are highly correlated with intelligence and general success in life.

Note that my definition of success does not mean wealth. It just means that living a happy, secure and stable life. By contrast most hollywood film stars have money like sand but are stupid. Although there are outliers such as Natalie Portman.

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>>11410665
>Note that my definition of success does not mean wealth. It just means that living a happy, secure and stable life. By contrast most hollywood film stars have money like sand but are stupid. Although there are outliers such as Natalie Portman.
hell ya now we're talkin

>> No.11410697

>>11410668
Now answer my question, does having a low IQ lead to a stable and secure future, enough so that you may retire in peace without having to worry about loans or depending on the government to provide pension support so that you may avoid living on the brink of poverty?

Also realize that the film industry is competitive with so many stars such that you may never have your breakthrough moment? Unless you're Di Caprio or Brad Pitt or some other superstars, your image will soon wither away and be replaced by someone else.

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11410712

>>11410697
>Now answer my question, does having a low IQ lead to a stable and secure future, enough so that you may retire in peace without having to worry about loans or depending on the government to provide pension support so that you may avoid living on the brink of poverty?
My father didn't graduate high school and needed my help spelling words sometimes. He started his own construction company and created an unbelievable family with a nice home and much security.
My half-brother is on the same level. Same story generally. Trying to use IQ as an indicator of a person's character is fucking retarded. I'm just teddy has a high IQ. there are good and bad examples all over the spectrum.

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>>11410712
>I'm sure teddy had a high IQ. there are good and bad examples all over the spectrum.

>> No.11410720

>>11410712
>Trying to use IQ as an indicator of a person's character is fucking retarded
I've never said that IQ dictates a person's character. It's an indicator of his future.

>> No.11410721

just searched IQ in the catalog and this thread was the first. This is the official intelligence rating of the boards on 4chan :
/lit/ > /g/ > /diy/ > /tv/ = /sci/ > /biz/ = /pol/ > /b/
These are the boards where the users can usually have intellectual discussions and not just shitpost or do whatever they do on /lgbt/

>> No.11410724

>>11410720
>It's an indicator of his future.
and i gave you examples refuting your hypothesis

>> No.11410732

>>11410712
>My father didn't graduate high school and needed my help spelling words sometimes. He started his own construction company and created an unbelievable family with a nice home and much security.
My grandmother herself dropped out of school to support her brothers and sisters because her mother died when they were all too young. Sometimes high IQ people just don't get the opportunity to achieve something. Maybe your dad was intelligent but may not have had the opportunities due to certain problems

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>>11410721
cope

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>>11410732
>Maybe your dad was intelligent but may not have had the opportunities due to certain problems
this is certainly true. i sure wish he couldve recognized it. his insecurity over not finishing highschool and perceiving himself to be dumb ate away at him his whole lief

>> No.11410745

>>11410738
You agree that your dad wasn't given the opportunities. But do realize that there are certain people who, given all resources, can never truly achieve anything worthwhile.

>> No.11410748

>>11410734
Why should I cope ? Just spitted out straight facts
and this kind of response is exactly why /sci/ is /tv/ tier just slightly better than /pol/

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>>11410745
lol ya. lief is miserable. i wouldn't want it any other way

>> No.11410774

>>11410748
based

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11410791

>>11410754
This. Also life is unfair in many ways. Maybe this is just nature in the works.

>> No.11410805

>>11410486
>They say the world is run by us 115-120 IQ folks. I agree
As a 130-140 IQ autist, this is 100% true. Nobel peace prize average is about 120. The average IQ of the captured Nazis was about 120.
Powerful people tend to be around 120

>> No.11410822

>>11410441
>Between 120-130 IQ you can certainly pass medical school or bar exams but this basically king of the midwits territory.
What IQ are you, because I'd say you're in the "talks out of his ass" territory
It's an empirical question: does IQ have predictive power above 130 or not? I don't think so. At the highest it stops at 145, but the difference between 130 and 145 seems small. IQs above 145 are complete BS, like saying Einstein had an IQ of 180. Yea right, the validated tests don't even go that high. The difference between 135 and 145 on most tests in terms of raw score is like 1 question

>> No.11410826

>>11410475
>then existentially self-limit based on that predictive metric is nothing but a net negative for yourself and your psyche
Not wasting your time on shit that isn't for you isn't negative. Ie if you know you're 100 IQ because you scored that way, got an 1100 on the SAT and a 3.2 GPA in high school, it's freeing to know you shouldn't waste your money on college

>> No.11410838

>>11410464
A person with an IQ of 100 will never be able to compete with the big boys
You're the type of person that tells short kids that if they just try hard enough they can be Michael Jordan one day
You waste everyone's time with your seducing delusions

>> No.11410839

>>11410622
Not that poster but I have a theory that applies. It has to do with a proposed psychometric I'm testing called truth-seeking (TS). Basically it's the extent to which you know what you don't know. The epitome of the midwit is the "YAAAAS SCIENCE" liberal who obeys the status quo and doesn't think too deeply about things yet isn't retarded. But not all 100-120 IQ people are like this. A lot are based, politically awoken, and see through the lies of the elite. That's because they're high TS.
Basically the midwit is mid IQ mid-low TS

>> No.11410853

>>11410754
I wish more people finally come to the realization like him that IQ is a good qualitative measure of one's future.

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>>11410853
it may very well be. anon made a good argument.

>> No.11410859

>>11410853
Yes
It's a brutal pill to swallow for midwits and brainlets alike

>> No.11410887

>>11410838
The question is not whether or not you can "compete" effectively- of course you can't- but whether or not you can find fulfillment in your own aspirations. Do the best that you can with what you have. Of course there are countless others that can do a better job- so be it. That is utterly out of your control and does not warrant bothering with.

In the words of your analogy, I'm telling the short children that they don't have to be Michael Jordan, and shouldn't bother comparing themselves to him.

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>>11410859

>> No.11411098

>>11410887
Based and Stoicism pilled anon.

>> No.11411220

>>11410826
100 iq 1100 sat is fine. Most educated menial jobs; teacher, engineer, programner, IT are made up of relativly average iq individual. Nothing special about teaching middle school or being an engineer but it pays the bills.

>> No.11411232

Iq is abstraction ability. Do math.

>> No.11411264

>>11411220
>nothing special about being an engineer

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>>11411264
good greentext for emphasis bro

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>>11411232

>> No.11411374

>You will never see a highly successful scientist or mathematician talk about IQ ever. And if you talk about IQ to them they will label you a brainlet and stop interacting with you

Really activates the almonds

>> No.11411393

>>11411374
Kinda true. A buddy of mine is a prof at imperial and he laughed when I mentioned IQ.

>> No.11411574

>>11407214
When I was 15.
My IQ score is 135, but I lie online and say its 145 in order to add more validity to my argument in the minds of dimwits.

>> No.11411624

>>11410626
did Nicola Tesla had medal?
Thomas Edison?
Konstantin Tsiolkovsky?
Mikhail Kalashnikov?

>> No.11412348

>>11407214
nigger midwits run everything
stop trying intellectualize your personal failings like a sad sack of shit you hopeless fucktard

>> No.11412372

>>11407574
>>11410107
/sci/ truly does have the absolute stupidest fucking memes.

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>>11407214
>The thread is still up

>> No.11412706

I dont know my iq because im not paying any money for that shit but being attractive is the only that matters, being attractive makes other people respect and assume positive things about you, being attractive gives confidence which helps you rise up in the workplace and your social standing, etc

>> No.11412766

>>11411624
>Nicola Tesla had medal
They may not have had the opportunity. Given an opportunity to participate, they surely would've won gold.

>> No.11412767

>>11412706
fallacious looks.

>> No.11412846

>>11407236
Yeah just like 5 foot 11 is tall.

>> No.11412945

>>11411393
>>11411374
They have won the game so they don't want to hear any talk of essentialism or predeterminism. It's like if someone is ranting about height being necessary to succeed at basketball then Michael Jordan laughs like "naw mane iss all about hard work and determination" and then stops interacting with him.

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Highest IQ in history determines that you end up a typewriter repair man living in a room sperging out over "streetcar transfers".

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>>11412973
meanwhile literal retard who was denied a KFC job

>> No.11413029

>>11407214
If you have an IQ of 115, that's well above average and any failings are yours alone.
Dwight D. Eisenhower had an IQ of ~120, and look how far he got in life.

>> No.11413043

>>11413029
>Eisenhower
i think there was other reason

>> No.11413045

>>11410121
what kind of business?

>> No.11413051

>>11407214
Drive and unimpaired mental health has a shitload more to say, being a high IQ person who scores great on tests but can barely manage to leave the house much less do anything that requires effort or runs the risk of failure/adversity is useless.

>> No.11413052

>>11407214
what??? no way dude, emotional intelligence is the best one, it helps you manipulate people and make people do what you want.

>> No.11413058

>>11413051
so like, being brave is better than being smart?

>> No.11413066

>>11413058
Not as much bravery as the willingness to apply even a moderate intelligence, failing and improving oneself.

>> No.11413075

>>11407214
>superior and interior
kek'd

>> No.11413078

>>11413043
What are you trying to say?
He didn't have family connections. He went to West Point and worked his way up from there.

>> No.11413086

>>11413066
Well, I mean you can spend your whole life seeking to improve yourself till the very end. And then what?

>> No.11413104

>>11413078
Def was no shitbird like John McCain who had everything handed to him by Daddy on a silver platter as an Admiral's son.

>> No.11413124

>>11413104
McCain definitely wasn't phoney (he was captured and held in a NVA prison for years), but I agree it's unlikely he would have gotten nearly as high up in the government if not for his daddy's status and connections.

Just shows that there is so much more that goes to achieving any sort of goal than just IQ. Connections, charisma, drive, resourcefulness, combined are probably more important.

>> No.11413254

>>11409069
so where do I fit with an IQ of 126? I know ppl who have higer IQ than me and its not showing.

>> No.11413260

>>11413254
>ppl
>higer
There's no excuse to be talking like this after middle school.

>> No.11413272

>>11407235
IQ is almost irrelevant basically for every life pursuit above 125IQ.

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Remainder that IQ doesn't matter above certain threshold, Creativity come into play then, You can confirm this by the abnormally high amount of great people below 130IQ (Noble prize winners have below 130IQ on average btw).

And the thing is that most high IQ people AREN'T highly creative, Explain the huge amount of 120IQ+ copers here.

>> No.11413280

>>11410822
Study showed that the difference between 130IQ students and 160IQ ones in term of excelling in academia is less than x2.

x50 was the difference between average IQ students and 130IQ ones btw.

>> No.11413283

>>11413260
mate, I just woke up, I haven't even finished my tea.

>> No.11413287

>>11413280
link?

>> No.11413401

does an artist have high IQ?
can IQ measure artistic behavior?

>> No.11413409

>>11407214
115 IQ is very high... Don't you realize it's better than 85% of people?

>> No.11413413

>>11413409
He's basically like those sad people who say "If you'll never be in the top 0.1% of wealth, why bother?

>> No.11413458

>>11413275
IQ is the same as creativity retard. The ability to think differently is what IQ tests are for.

>> No.11413468

I met a guy on yhe street with a 150 iq. He was homeless.

65% of homeless people have IQs >130. 80% of people with IQs >150 are homeless.

Makes you think

>> No.11413469

>>11407214
IQ tests are Jewish

>> No.11413479

>>11413468
You administered an iq test to a homeless person?

>> No.11413488 [DELETED] 

I want to become a mathematician. I got my intellect evaluated at a psychiatrist and the results indicated that i had a high visual spatial ability. As i understand it, it means that i probably have a high IQ, but it's not guaranteed. Should i test my IQ to see if i'll be able to become a good mathematician? I'm pretty terrified of the possibility of getting a lower than expected IQ score.

>> No.11413493

>>11413469
ok, so?

>> No.11413526

>>11413468
This retard has never heard nor seen the bell curve.

>> No.11413541

They told me /sci/ was better than /g/ but half the threads are IQ cope/rant threads, what the hell. You guys are more insecure than r9k

>> No.11413665

>>11407254
pretending to be a retard still makes you a retard

>> No.11413701

>>11407251
>more accomplished in every respect
This is essentially impossible if my IQ is significantly higher than his

>> No.11413734

>>11410269
>letting normies define “””success”””
never gonna make it

>> No.11413852

>>11413401
It can predict learning and connecting ideas but not physical skill. High verbal IQ can predict writing skill though. The IQ number itself if only showing half the picture, what matters is the spread of the scores involved. Generally they're clustered together, but the further you go to the outliers the larger the variation in individual scores.
The real tragedy is high IQ plus a learning disability.

>> No.11413882

>>11407214
>As a low-midwit, with an IQ somewhere in the 115 - 120 range, it's over for me.
Relax, frend. Life isn't survival of the fittest, it's survival of the good enough!

>> No.11413905

>>11410121
based rice field plower

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>>11413905
LOL

>> No.11413949

>>11413458
No it's not. Fact is that there are many sub 130IQ who scored higher than the average 130IQ in creativity tests.

>> No.11414223

>>11413949
sauce?

>> No.11414812

95 iq trust fund kid ask me any non-virgin question and ye shall have an answer.

>> No.11414858

>>11410441
>Wahhh I actually have to work for my intellectual pursuits. Pity me.

>> No.11414864

IQ isn't statistic and it is not some kind character stat like D&D

>> No.11414874

>>11414812
How much money do I have to throw at someone until they think I'm smart?

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>>11407214

>> No.11415276

>>11407214
this post is too short for this image

>> No.11415340

>>11407214
>When did you realise and accept that IQ determines your existence and segregates people in categories of superior and interior?
>As a low-midwit, with an IQ somewhere in the 115 - 120 range, it's over for me.
You talk like a chick with body issues.

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>>11407214
hey guys' got a question. This is the major most used iq test right. it has four subtests and as far as I understand most people do about the same on all four subests. but what if someone did really well on one subtest and really poorly on all other subtests. what would they do with this result. say if they scored a 140 on verbal comprehension but double digits on everything else. what exactly do the various sub-tests translate too in terms of real life success in sub-fields. the person is me please help me on discord I have struggled for years and no psycologist will tell me about this. my discord is imbecile and maligner#9786 . please for the love of fuck I have to pick a major soon and am feel so stupid and depressed constantly if anyone who knew anything about iq could have maybe a ten minute conversation with me it would mean a lot to me and my family.

>> No.11415396

Who are the 75 to 90 iq people? Not quite retarded but probably slow adults. What are they doing with their lives?

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>>11415396
>What are they doing with their lives?
licking dick

>> No.11415411

>>11415396
90s are usually fine with average jobs. the very low people who are 70's and 80's either don't work and are taken care of by loved ones or they work very easy jobs with some benefits because society needs them to go somewhere. grocery stores are a big employer of the mentally handicapped.

>> No.11415492

>>11407474
Selection bias

>> No.11415673

>>11407474
Coolidge was based

>> No.11415953

>>11415376
You might have a learning disability. I have adhd and my low score is 93 (auditory working memory) but my high is 145 (verbal). My general working memory score was right on 100. I often have problems following conversations and speak like a retard but I can write well. With treatment you can bring those low ones up if your issue is focus, which can skew the results from testing itself. You need a new psychologist if he didn't know that and can't explain the score breakdown.

>> No.11415959

this smells like pajeet coping

>> No.11417408

>>11415953
What was your full scale score?
I'm getting evaluated for attention deficit and I'm irrationally terrified of IQ tests.
Any suggestions for dealing with the test terror?

>> No.11417460

>>11407221
redpill me on working memory

>> No.11417465

>>11413665
"you" is a social construct

>> No.11417644

>>11417408
My overall score was 132. Just do your best and remember that identifying your problem is the first step to learning to fix it or cope with it. Make sure you're well rested, hydrated, and have eaten, just like any test. The test is long but it's also given in short chunks so if you get flustered you can take a breather and get some water in between. It may also be broken up over multiple days. If you are anxious you should let them know because they are a psychologist and should know how to help with that. You'll also probably take a general mental illness screener which includes fifty different ways of asking if you hear voices or are afraid of going outside. They won't give you the results on the same day so don't stress about it then, either. It'll take a while to calculate the scores and they'll write up a report and meet with you to discuss it.

>> No.11418263

>>11407214
What it's over?

>> No.11418771

>>11407214
My IQ is 140 on degraded mode (without my ADD meds)
The true predictor of how good you'll do in life is how fucked up or not was your childhood.

>> No.11418959

>>11417644
My biggest fear is that I'm not smart enough for what I want to do, which is teach mathematics at a college.
I know that it's silly and stupid, but it still terrifies me.