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Why does life exist?

>> No.11394258

Because the eukaryotic nucleus somehow came to be. If you mean eukaryotic life.

>> No.11394292

Life popped up when a group of atoms, when exposed to an external energy source, like the sun or similar, and inside some big heat bath, like an ocean or atmosphere, will gradually restructure itself to better dissipate heat. Therefore, it's a form of matter that is much better at capturing energy from around itself and dissipating it as heat. Therefore, lie is much more entropic than inanimate material.

>> No.11394400

>>11394233
We share over 50% of our DNA with that thing.

>> No.11394405

Just to suffer.

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>>11394400
HE A BIG BOI

>> No.11394457

>>11394233
>Why
low IQ. The real questions are how, when and where

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>>11394457
>The real questions are how, when and where
No, those are the low IQ questions. The question of "why" is in itself an anomaly we struggle to make sense of yet can't stop obsessing over or stop being infatuated with.

>> No.11394475

>>11394466
nah, that's pseud pop/sci shit.

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>>11394475

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>>11394475
but srsly, i don't blame you for not tackling the hard shit. im a srsly fucked up mentally ill cunt on behalf of it. einstein eventually accepted god after a lifetime of believing he had the capacity to understand anything.

>> No.11394530

>>11394483
I like the way you think anon

>> No.11394677

>>11394292
But why, tho?

>> No.11394685

Why does anything exist?

>> No.11394687

>>11394233
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQrCsPrh11M

>> No.11394701

To spite us

>> No.11394713

Because viruses willed so.

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>>11394233
Life is merely the continuation of a series of chemical reactions that happened 4 billion years ago.

>> No.11395279

>>11394233
A bunch of stuff got really good at self propagating. Life exists because reality exists. Reality exists because if it didn't it wouldn't exist. It's pretty awesome, thanks jesus.

>> No.11395330

>>11394233
because amino acids arrange in ways that cause them to produce bad copies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1xnYFCZ9Yg

>> No.11395353

>>11394483
Which god?

>> No.11395365

>>11394233
Because God loves you, repent

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>>11394233
Two possibilities:
-Creation
-Underlying logic that drives the universe allows for it to occur via a given starting state, and that state occurred, and it did.

Realistically it could be either one, and it could vary throughout the universe which is predominant. The self organizing properties of biological systems implies a probable abiotic genesis of at least one founder organism.

Evolution and creation are not incompatible. I don't know why some are so terrified, so utterly deeply bothered, by the idea that man or some other beings were influenced by an encounter with another species, or if evolution occurs via mechanisms which are not strictly Darwinian (eg Lysenkoism or that other one Freud was into). I just don't see what the big deal is.

>> No.11395426

>>11394850
abiogenesis solved on 4chan, who would have thought it?

>> No.11395493

>>11394457
Based
>>11394466
The question of why just becomes philosophical bs when talking about life. Why life exist? Just give some weird ass answer that's good to hear and you are satisfied. How asks for proofs in this matter.

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>>11395353
THIS GOD LOL

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>>11395493
that's what is most peculiar about the question of why. it can easily lead to the generic modern day self-satisfaction that is philosophy today. hard evidence is crucial for a satisfying answer to why. Answering the question of "why" requires the most amount of effort of any question.

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>>11395426
ANONYMOUS WILL ALWAYS BE THE MOST POWERFUL FORCE TO HAVE EVER EXISTED

>> No.11395639

>>11394400
But how much rna and how much bionome?

>> No.11395648

You can ask "why".
There's no problem with asking "why".
Sometimes "why" boils down to a set of understandable circumstances resulting in an outcome.
"Why did this log catch on fire?" has a knowable outcome.
"Why did this body begin producing cancerous cells?" has a knowable outcome.

Sometimes the answer to these questions of "why" are satisfying, because the answer is discreet, and leads to solutions, or to new possibilities.
When we asked "why is uranium warm" the answers brought us opportunities.

But as with all things, "why" doesn't always result in a useful answer, or a humanly satisfying one.

All the evidence we have about the origin of life suggests that life exists because a chemical process happened to make something that made more of itself, and this process repeated and became more complex over time. That's all.

When you ask "why does life exist" you're asking for meaning, but you're misunderstanding your own question, you don't understand what "why" means. It's not a question that exists to satisfy your need for that meaning, it's just a cudgel you're wielding because you want to feel important, rather than a tool to extract what IS, and when the answer doesn't tickle your human sense of self-importance, you impotently defend it as if a greater sense of meaning in the answer to your "why" question must exist, that, "that's not what I mean".

What you're really asking isn't, "Why does life exist", what you're asking is "Why is life important."
That question may not have a discreet answer, it may be subjective, or it may have an answer you don't like, and so you have missed the point of what "why" has value in asking.

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>>11395648

>> No.11395659

>>11395653
>I cannot be bothered to read and think about a couple of paragraphs of writing n a board about intellectual pursuits. I need my life fed to me in twitter-sized tidbits.

/sci/ in a nutshell.

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>>11395659
no i read it. it was worth the read. walls of text suck ass to sift through no matter how valuable though. but i get it. i still do it when i cant contain myself as evidenced here: >>11392383

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>>11394530

>> No.11397062

>>11394233
How'd you get this picture of me?

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>>11395639
If you talk about transcriptome and proteome, here's the data. I couldn't find anything about microbiome
source: Comparative transcriptomics suggest unique molecular adaptations within tardigrade lineages. Kamiliary M, et al. 2019. BMC Genomics

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Wrong board

>> No.11400322

>>11394405
based and nietzhsche pilled