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I’m eating a burrito edition

WHEN: Monday, February 17 10:05 AM EST / 5:05 UTC
STREAM: https://www.spacex.com/webcast [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xeX62mLcf8]
Probability of weather delay: <10% [https://www.patrick.af.mil/Portals/14/Weather/L-1%20Forecast%2017%20Feb%20Launch.pdf?ver=2020-02-16-104022-197]
Backup launch date: Tuesday, February 18 9:42 AM EST / 4:42 UTC

Launch site: SLC-40, Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Florida (East Coast)
Booster number & previous flights: B1056.4 [CRS-17, CRS-18, JCSAT-18]
First stage landing: Yes, on autonomous droneship Of Course I Still Love You
Fairing catch attempt: Yes, both halves, on Ms. Tree & Ms. Chief fairing recovery vessels
SpaceX press kit: https://www.spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/fifth_starlink_press_kit_0.pdf
Payload: 60 V1.0 Starlink satellites
Payload mass & destination orbit: >15,600 kg; 290 km @ ~53°; satellites will orbit-raise after deployment to 550 km

Payload information:
>https://www.starlink.com
>https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/starlink-v1-0.htm
>https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2020/02/spacex-falcon-reusability-record-fifth-starlink-launch/

Stats:
This will be the 50th(!) landed first stage, 32nd booster reflight, and 81st Falcon 9 launch. It is the 4th SpaceX launch of 2020.

>> No.11392684
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Expected TLEs:
https://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/supplemental/starlink-5.txt

Note that deployment is now only ~15min after liftoff

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>> No.11392703

>>11392684
>Note that deployment is now only ~15min after liftoff
That's a quick ejaculation.

>> No.11392706

how many total starlink satellites is that?

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>>11392706
after today, 300 — but some have died/been deorbited. Not sure how many are still up there; I'm sure one of the tracking sites can tell you though.

>> No.11392779

one hour until stream start

>> No.11392809

>>11392703
So we might actually get to see the whole deployment if it‘s no longer right at the exact absolute ass end of the planet.
Cautiously hype.

>> No.11392860

15 mins

>> No.11392868

We have music.

>> No.11392869

music
m u s i c

>> No.11392870

UP

>> No.11392872

WE HAVE OONTZ

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>> No.11392874

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m05abdGSOxY

Video to watch for those who are new to Starlink

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>> No.11392883
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hi friends whats happening today? pls not more gay satellites?

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>> No.11392886

Timer @ 9 min

>> No.11392888

>>11392883
60 gay satellites

>> No.11392889

>>11392883
It's more gay satellites, but it's going to be a quick ejaculation today supposedly.

>> No.11392890

>>11392883
too late, 60 more gay satellites

>> No.11392895

>"elliptical - or oval shaped orbit"
do people REALLY not know what elliptical means?

>> No.11392899

>>11392895
Yes. Those people really do exist, they're also in the majority.

>> No.11392900

>>11392895
reminder that half the people in the world are below 100 IQ

>> No.11392901

>>11392883
Nope. These satellites are trans this time.

>> No.11392905

>>11392895
There's no need to gate keep such a term. Elon has stated that all communication must be simple/easy to understand. Most people dont use the word elliptical in normal conversation.

>> No.11392906

>>11392905
fair enough

>> No.11392911

No scrub today?

>> No.11392912

>>11392905
It's not a term that should be "gate keeping" anyone though, it's shit you learned in 3rd grade in school.

>> No.11392913

>>11392911
I scrubbed my ass today

>> No.11392914

>>11392912
*shouldn't be.

>> No.11392915

SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

- the mic

>> No.11392916

>>11392912
You'd be amazed how poor education is in some areas, even just in the US. I didn't learn what ellipse really meant until college.

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>>11392913
good for you anon!

>> No.11392918

Too cloudy today for me.

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t-20 secs

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>> No.11392921

>>11392912

good thing we have online dictionaries where anyone can look up any word instantly with zero effort. an ellipse is not an oval.

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are there people inside the rocket flying it?

>> No.11392924

looking good today, Earth

>> No.11392925

They updated the UI, neat.

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>>11392923
yes, very tiny people, they're the ones talking right now

>> No.11392928

>>11392916
I went through the great equality school of Norway in the 80s, where everyone had to follow the lowest common denominator in the class. We learned about ellipses in the 3rd grade.

>> No.11392930

this reminds me of the boards of canada - dayvan cowboy video desu

>> No.11392932

Space X

We make this shit look boring now.

>> No.11392933

>An der schönen, blauen Donau starts playing

>> No.11392934

>>11392926
I don't hear any backwards Spanish.

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>>11392932

>> No.11392937

>>11392932
For real,I barely half watch these things because I know the chance of anything strange happening is almost 0

>> No.11392939
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explosion?

>> No.11392940

>>11392932
I'm hardly worried right now. Not like the good old days when things blew up

>> No.11392941

>>11392936
Does that include the FH center core that fell off the boat?

>> No.11392942

Some shit floated away from the first stage, here's hoping shit doesn't blow up.

>> No.11392943

is that its 5th fly?

>> No.11392946

Did anybody else saw a cable getting loose from stage 1? What was that?

>> No.11392947

>>11392943
fourth

>> No.11392948

Its happening

>> No.11392949

>>11392946
yeah >>11392942

>> No.11392950 [DELETED] 

>>11392939
Stop posting anime picture you fucking weeb

kill yourself

>> No.11392953

oh fuck
jinxed

>> No.11392954

sploosh?

>> No.11392955
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>>11392932
This is YET another reason why SpaceX is a MENACE to American space flight. They seek to remove the awe and wonder of space travel which has united AMERICA. Meanwhile the most POWERFUL rocket in AMERICA which is built by AMERICANS, the Space Launch System (pbui), launches just frequently enough so that each time is just as magical and inspiring as the last. I will not stand by while a FOREIGN MAN destroys AMERICAN space flight.

>> No.11392956

>>11392950
boring cunt

>> No.11392957

Looked like it landed in the water.

>> No.11392958

uhhhhhh rip

>> No.11392959

rip

>> No.11392960

Looks like it went in the drink. That think that floated away might have been a bit important.

>> No.11392961

oh shit, landing missed?
elon btfo

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>>11392950

>> No.11392963

SPLASHED THE FIRST STAGE, NO LANDING!

>> No.11392964

F

>> No.11392966

That's a shame

>> No.11392967

>>11392937
You just jinxed it.

>> No.11392969

This is why winged vehicles are superior to propulsive landings.

Gliding > suicide burning.

>> No.11392970

>>11392936
>>11392937
>>11392932
>>11392940
YOU FUCKERS JINXED IT

>> No.11392971

F

>> No.11392972

>>11392937
good fucking work retard

>> No.11392973

Oh shit. And just when the flight proven meme was taking off.

>> No.11392974

Seems 3 is the max on these things.

Oh well, at least this beat is phat.

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F

>> No.11392976 [DELETED] 

>>11392956
Shut the fuck up faggot

>> No.11392977

Its probably that upper level shear that caused the issue. That was the main concern this launch.

>> No.11392978

>>11392899
And they fucking vote.

>> No.11392979

Davey Jones has the first stage now.

F

>> No.11392982

They lost stage 1. Looks like it landed not from OCISLY judging from the vapor clouds. I knew this would've happened the moment they kept harping about 50th successful landing.

>> No.11392983

>>11392973
>was taking off.
Well it did take off, just did not land.

>> No.11392985

>>11392979
Looks like it landed right off camera on the right hand side from what I saw, they'll probably fish it right up.
No tribute to the kraken today.

>> No.11392986

>>11392982
Yeah I was thinking that when that fucking woman kept going on about it

>> No.11392987 [DELETED] 

>>11392950
this, weeb niggers should be gassed

>> No.11392988

F, will not be forgotten

>> No.11392991

Reminder boosters aim off from the landing spot in order to avoid nuking it. Only in the final moments do they alter the trajectory so they land properly. Something went wrong so it suicided.

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>>11392969
Yeah

>> No.11392996

if it landed in the water there's a chance they could recover parts like last time

>> No.11392997

>>11392974
There is also 1 more that already landed 4 times.

>> No.11392998

time stamp for "important thing" that flew off?

>> No.11392999

why do they cut off at deploy every time

>> No.11393001

It is so weird to see the upper stage spinning like that. Usually upper stages do a barbecue roll for thermal management.

>> No.11393003

A soft water landing

>> No.11393005

>>11392974
there's a few who have four landings already

>> No.11393007

>>11392998
An essential piece of ice.

>> No.11393008

>>11392996
Yeah, rewind and you'll see vapor just off camera on the right side, she just said it made a soft landing right next to the drone ship.

>>11392999
Probably because they don't want to transmit their fuckups should one happen?

>> No.11393009

>>11392996
On the stream they just said it soft-landed intact. They'll probably fish it out of the ocean to figure out what went wrong.

>> No.11393010

> soft water landing
even when they fail, they don't

>> No.11393011
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rip

>> No.11393013

>>11392991
Right, probably. If this had been a pad landing that failed, it would have ended up floating just off the coast again.

>> No.11393015

>>11393001
the spin is for satellite deployment, it's like throwing a deck of cards

>> No.11393016

The icy thing that broke off is quite similar to that one case where the booster lost hydraulics for the flaps.

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mars is cancelled

>> No.11393019

>>11393010
yeah, on the launch when they had one grid fin fail, it just meant more entertainment for us, watching that thing spin barely under control all the way to just offshore

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>>11393001
>>11393015

>> No.11393021

Starship will require highly reliable propulsive landing, which is significantly more complex than the Falcon landings with its "belly flop" thing. Wonder how long it'll take/ if its possible to make it sufficiently safe.

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>>11392950
Go back~

>> No.11393024

>>11393021
They'll launch 100 times with Starlink and perfect it

>> No.11393026

>>11392998
t+5m57s

>> No.11393029

>>11392998
Don't have a timestamp but you can see it at T+6 minutes

>> No.11393031

>>11393009
>They'll probably fish it out of the ocean to figure out what went wrong.
Something fell off. We could see that on stream. Just the little bump from that shit can be enough for it to miss by 20m.

https://youtu.be/8xeX62mLcf8?t=1215

At that time stamp, you can see the thing that came off still hanging on at the side of the grid fin.

https://youtu.be/8xeX62mLcf8?t=1246

Around here it came off.

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Here’s the thing that fell off

>> No.11393036

>>11393020
YEET

>> No.11393037

>>11393035
that's ice

>> No.11393038

>>11393031
>Something fell off.
Did the front fall off?

>> No.11393041

we got too cocky, bros

>> No.11393042

>>11393031
>can hear people shouting in the background the moment it falls off
lmao

>> No.11393043

Wonder if this will cause delays

>> No.11393045

There's a "first stage LOS expected" at T+7:30, so they knew shit was fucked right after entry burn. Just after the girl said "and I hear the entry burn was a pretty good one". Fucking jinxed it.

>> No.11393047 [DELETED] 

>>11393022
I want to smash your head against a wall. Disgusting faggot.

>> No.11393050

>>11393037
It's not ice, the moment it falls off, it bends the moment it detaches if you look at video instead of the picture. It's either a cable or some sort of padding material in between the stages.

They may want to go through their fast turnaround process a bit more. Something clearly has room for improvement.

>> No.11393051

>>11393037
From the fuel tank above the gridfin?

>> No.11393052

>>11393045
LOS is when a tracking station looses contact. It's normal

>> No.11393053

>>11393043
I can't imagine—the reusability is just a bonus. Payload got to orbit fine.

>> No.11393057

>>11393052
Still jinxed it.

>> No.11393060

>>11393050
Yeah this guy is right, it was bendy

>> No.11393064

>>11393050
it's fluffy ice
>>11393051
Yes, that's where ice would form

>> No.11393063

>>11393051
Ice does not bend when jolted.

>> No.11393065

>>11393043
It will be a less learned and future missions will go further.

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the twitter replies are pretty hilarious

>> No.11393074

>>11393069
I wonder if Kevin has connections to the Prince of Nigeria.

>> No.11393075

>>11393065
The rocket itself is proven, this is a turnaround thing they need to fix since they're working on pushing that down more and more.
Cut too many corners and shit like this happens.

>> No.11393076

>>11393069
Lmfao, Dear sir, 100 true my number

>> No.11393077

This launch can be redeemed if they catch both fairings

>> No.11393078

>>11393069
inb4 Kevin is 21st century Ramanujan who will bring India to the forefront of spaceflight technology

>> No.11393079

>>11393075
We'll learn what happened. Whether it was physics issue, engineering issue, refurbish examination, or simply new things.

>> No.11393081

>>11393077
I'm mainly worried about the F9 fleet. A few more oopsies like this and there won't be enough cores to last until starship is operational. S2 production is fine, but they've really ramped down S1 building. These block 5's are meant to last ~10 flights

>> No.11393083

>>11393079
100% guarantee it's a rushed refurbish. It's way too easy to grow complacent and start cutting corners.

>> No.11393084

>>11393069
might call him pretending to be space X

>> No.11393085

>>11393081
How many cores do they have?

>> No.11393091

>>11393081
I'd imagine that they'll have enough first stages to deal with a 5% failure rate. That doesn't give me faith in airplane-like reliability with Starship though.

>> No.11393092

>>11393085
8

>> No.11393093

>>11393081
4 launch = 28 million / 4 + 10% for refurbishment x 3 = $16 M/rocket each.

>> No.11393095

>>11393081
Don't worry they can just buy cheaper expendable launches from ULA or Arianespace since those specialize in expendable launchers which are cheaper because they are expendable.

>> No.11393100

>>11393091
>airplane reliability
>starship
Meme. It just has to pop a bit less than the shuttles while delivering much more.

>> No.11393102

>>11393093
Where did that 10% come from?

>> No.11393103

>>11393085
About 7 cores. There's fresh one for DM-2. And I think they still need to make new ones for every Crew Dragon launch.

>> No.11393108

All that equipment, all those expensive rocket engines, all those precious materials now taking a dip in the ocean!

150 million dollars for a rocket down the drain.

This is why reusability is a meme and a waste of money.

>> No.11393111

>>11393108
you're a fucking meme you dufus

>> No.11393112

>>11393102
Rough estimate based on Shotwell's assessment earlier in 2016. $3M refurbish cost each time. It could be less, it could be more.

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>>11393108
Another 50 billion dollars down the drain

>> No.11393117

>>11393081
making new cores isn't hard now that the R&D is done, it just takes time and money. They have all the setup and personnel so it's not like they need to start from scratch or anything.

>> No.11393118

>>11393108
>All that equipment, all those expensive rocket engines, all those precious materials now taking a dip in the ocean!
It's recoverable.

>150 million dollars for a rocket down the drain.
Falcon 9's are priced at $50M per launch, and cost about $30M to make each.

>This is why reusability is a meme and a waste of money.
No, you didn't prove your point. No, reusability isn't a meme. It is a necessary step towards making access to space cheaper and easier.

>> No.11393138

>>11393108
Just re-using them once makes the vehicles break even on production costs retard.

>> No.11393140

>>11393108
lol

>> No.11393143

>>11393138
not when nobody is actually paying them because they're launching their own satellites

>> No.11393144

>>11393143
still cheaper

>> No.11393151

Next F9 launch is CRS-20 on March 2.

>> No.11393154

>>11393143
They have yet to launch Starlink as the first launch of a booster.

>> No.11393159

>>11393143
You know that there are actual paying customers for SpaceX right?

>> No.11393161

>>11393143
Ok retard

>> No.11393164

>>11393038
Actually, I think the front fell off.

>> No.11393168

>>11393164
Well, is that typical?

>> No.11393189

>>11393151
the last CRS launch, ever

>> No.11393194

>>11393189
(for Dragon 1). Cygnus still has some CRS missions left I think. Then D2 will have cargo missions etc

>> No.11393196

>>11393194
D2 is under CRS-2, I think

>> No.11393197

>>11393189
>SpaceX CRS-21: 5 August 2020 (planned)
>SpaceX CRS-22: scheduled
>SpaceX CRS-23: scheduled
>SpaceX CRS-24: scheduled
>SpaceX CRS-25: scheduled
>SpaceX CRS-26: scheduled
Last Dragon 1 CRS launch, sure.

>> No.11393204

>>11393196
CRS Phase 2.

>> No.11393228

It's been too quiet. I guess no luck on the fairings too then.

>> No.11393251

>>11393228
yeah, 90 minutes since launch
F

>> No.11393264

>>11393168
Yeah, that's not very typical, I'd like to make that point.

>> No.11393354

>>11393108
It's a satirical reply. What they're saying is the fate of single-use rockets.

>> No.11393478

Scott Manley says it's just ice
https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1229426939095465985?s=20

>> No.11393491

>>11393478
>Scott Manley says it's just ice
That's not what he says. He says it's unlikely to be related to going into the drink.
Some "Joachim Woldseth" dude is claiming it's a ring of ice, but ice does not fucking flex and bend.

>> No.11393499

>>11393491
I see you've never played with fluffy snow-ice in zero g before

>> No.11393510

>>11393491
Look at the SpaceX mouse. Its the same shit. It bends, molds, etc.

>> No.11393524

>>11393510
Yeah, except that's right on top of the turbopump pipe, which is running pretty fucking hot.

>> No.11393695

Can someone give me the tl;dr on what happened today?

>> No.11393697

>>11393695
60 more gay satellites in orbit, booster fell in the water

>> No.11393712

>>11393108
go away, Thunderf00t

>> No.11393772

>>11393697
>booster fell in the water
That sounds kinda worrying but that shit's recoverable, right?

...right?

>> No.11393775

>>11393772
we'll find out by the end of the week

>> No.11393833

>>11393775
Thanks, anon

>> No.11394449

WTF A STARLINK JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
(thank you tracker :3
works every time)
https://findstarlink.com/

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The feed breaking up made it look like it rolled suddenly a few degrees to the right.

>>11393772
Last one that gently touched down on water was never used again.

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>>11393772
I think HulloMan said in a comment that it broke in half when it hit the water.

>> No.11394964

SpaceX is going to repeat Challenger with their Drragon 2

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>>11394964
Boing will beat them to it when a parachute fails.

>> No.11394978

>>11394971
Nah, SpaceX will blow the shit out of crew onboard one of their rockets.

>> No.11395074

>>11394964
no, they launch abort system has already been proven
They will totally be doing a Columbia with Starship at some point tho
not with crew, but there will be bits across Texas