/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.11389686]

RICHARD NOOOOOOO!

[Anonymous No.11390522]

>>11389686
you should have checked the catalog.

[Anonymous No.11390642]

>>11389686
Define eugenics. It's been going on for centuries. That's how the Jews got so smart.

[Anonymous No.11390647]

>>11389686
Delete this thread and post in the other one.
>>11389409

[Anonymous No.11390649]

>RICHARD NOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.11391586]

>>11390642
And yet they have the highest number of genetic diseases out of all races due to inbreeding.

[Anonymous No.11391604]

>>11389686
>NNNOOOOO don't you know only things that adhere to my speshul brand of politically correct morality can work?

[Anonymous No.11391611]

>>11391586
not a problem when they're curing all of them because of high iq.

[Anonymous No.11391615]

>>11389686
Obviously you can select for any trait in an evolving group of animals, including humans. The issue is what group in power decides what are desirable traits, and what the definition of "good" genes are

[Anonymous No.11391618]

>>11389686
Selection is happening whether we like to admit it or not.
The real question is do we let it just be an unintended and un-aimed byproduct of our modern societies or do we try to actively control it?

[Anonymous No.11391622]

>>11391615
they kinda already do that indirectly with laws. that puts a selective pressure on genes that is unnatural, ie bad. ;p

[Anonymous No.11391665]

>>11391611
Some of them are completely debilitating and fatal, and thus incurable e.g. Tay-Sachs disease

[Anonymous No.11391668]

>>11391665
tay sachs is easily avoided with screening.

[Anonymous No.11391938]

>>11389686
That fact that it's not obvious to everyone that eugenics is good is a testament to how badly we need it.

[Anonymous No.11392073]

>>11391611
the jewish IQ is not 115, that has been debunked long ago since it was retardedly based on a small sample size of small children. jews hold high positions as a result of nepotism and the holohoax

[Anonymous No.11392082]

>it works for dogs

[Anonymous No.11394052]

>>11389686
The older he gets, the more he keeps accidentally blurting out really based things.

[Anonymous No.11394067]

>>11392073
The 115 figure is specifically for ashkenazi jews, not all jews.

[Anonymous No.11394094]

>>11394067
of which are claimed to have 'the highest iq'. that means most jews are actually sub 100 iq

[Anonymous No.11394109]

>>11389686
No one claimed it won't work. It's just a shitty thing to do.

[Anonymous No.11394114]

>>11389686
>the messiah of fedora will be cancelled soon

[Anonymous No.11394137]

>>11394094
AJs are the majority

[Anonymous No.11394172]

>>11389686
eugenics wouldn't work in practice because people in power would cheat the system. it doesn't take a huge brain to realize it would never work in practice

[Anonymous No.11394205]

>>11391622
No they do it directly with social security by extracting value from the productive to the unproductive to allow them to breed (mostly by stupidity and accident)

[Anonymous No.11394210]

>>11391586
Genetic issues doesn't negate the reality that eugenics works even if there are unintended side effects

[Anonymous No.11394213]

>>11394172
It's going to happen anyway if you've got the money you'll screen your embryos.

[Anonymous No.11394218]

>>11394210
Not quite true, technically quakers score smarter than AJs

[Anonymous No.11394220]

>>11391615
That isn't what's being brought up though. Dawkins specifically said eugenics shouldn't be done, only that it could be done.

[Anonymous No.11394231]

>>11392082
You retards that bring up dogs remind me of evolution deniers bringing up some ridiculous red herring as a counter-argument to natural selection.

[Anonymous No.11394240]

>>11389686
oh no

[Anonymous No.11394244]

>>11394109
The Twitter shitstorm suggests otherwise. Lefties go out of their way to misunderstand and accuse people of hidden motivations.

[Anonymous No.11394245]

>>11394220
>dude I'm not gay, just saying hypothetically bro if I were I would think you're cute

ever notice people who say this shit are always gay? same thing here

[Anonymous No.11394250]

>>11394245
You seem to be obsessed with homosexuals Anon. Is there something you want to say?

[Anonymous No.11394264]

why are women so stupid?

[Anonymous No.11394271]

And if I were to bash your head in with a sledgehammer, Richard, that would work in killing you. But what's the point in saying that?

[Anonymous No.11394362]

>>11394264
it is very difficult to be rational for them. Im not the biggest fan of athiest Richard Dawkins but you must admit that he is very pragmatic and his arguments are quite sound. nowhere in his tweet did he say he was in support of eugenics (only that it would work; a fact) yet the woman wil be blind to any nuance in arugmentation and all that she will see is that he tweeted that eugenics works, thus he supports it. Also funny how she thinks that because she went to some gender studies college and got her degree in evolutionary biology, she can argue from authority. If anything, Richard Dawkins is 1 million times the authority over some random buzzfeed blogger who has Dr in her twitter name

[Anonymous No.11394378]

>>11394271
seethe harder

[Anonymous No.11394385]

>>11394378
What I just said it would work. I even said it would work in killing him. He never even specified what he meant by work.

[Anonymous No.11394397]

>>11394385
cope

[Anonymous No.11394412]

>>11394397
have sex
And there is nothing wrong with the disgusted reactions this is getting. I would be more concerned about the sociopathic reactions.

[Anonymous No.11394436]

>>11394271
If you want to ban sledgehammer killings, saying sledgehammers can't kill is stupid.

If you oppose eugenics, first you need to aknowledge what it can do.

[Anonymous No.11394445]

>>11394397
have sex
And there is nothing wrong with the disgusted reactions this is getting. It was a tweet in bad taste from a washed up scientist only remembered for his reddit nu-atheist phase trying to a get shred of relevancy. I would be more concerned about the sociopathic reactions.

[Anonymous No.11394461]

>>11394436
not the point.

[Anonymous No.11394463]

>>11394445
using fallacies to discredit the arguer on the basis of reddit lingo goes to show your intellectual capacity (or lack thereof)

[Anonymous No.11394472]

State enforced eugenics is bad idea.
"But mankind domesticated crops and animals through our intelligence!"
Except this was a gradual and free process over millennia. None of which was centralized. State enforced eugenics will stagnate the genepool, and have many unintended consequences and paradoxical effects.

Genetic diversity is important to the survival of our population, especially in our current state. And I don't mean global diversity. I just mean the diversity we already see in each population pocket in the world.

Eschewing moral concerns for sake of argument, let's consider several truths.
Fitness is a description of an individual's ability to survive in an environment, and perhaps also to reproduce. That is, the individual, as exemplar of the species, is capable of sustaining life in a successive generation.
There is no objective scale of better fitness given by an absolute arbitrator. Either an individual survives and reproduces, or it doesn't.
The terms of fitness in a sense of evolution are descriptive. They are not statements of what ought to be, nor do they necessarily have applications in the realms of advancing human society. The reason for this is that the subjective markers or human achievement, like in the arts or sciences, do not correlate with reproductive success or better environmental fitness. Plenty of great scientists and thinkers were willfully celibate, other substantial people had their direct genetic line end with them while dying prematurely (Caesar, Alexander the Great). cont

[Anonymous No.11394473]

>>11394461
that is the point of his tweet

[Anonymous No.11394481]

>>11394472
It seems stupid to apply these descriptive terms of reproductive success or environmental for what we consider in bettering human society, because we function more broadly than wild animals. Eugenicists often make woeful leaps in logic and consistency, to presume there's some great absolute of betterness that's found in standards of evolutionary biology that can be applied socially. But there really isn't.
So-called genetically or bodily unfit individuals, in the eugenics scheme, serve perfectly adequate functions in society, even if just implicit ones, or their disabilities become null factors, or even factors of success. Take Helen Keller, severely disabled, but her handicaps became her focal point of success, and an interesting point of study in how we understand our sense modalities. I think similar things can be said of other types, like mental retards and cripples. They've been demonstrated to be capable of doing various works and labors.
Also, as our medical technology progresses, there's no good pragmatic reason why we can't simply eradicate and alleviate certain human maladies, rather than just exterminate or sterilize the individual in question. Take some deadly immune disorder or disease. An individual can be otherwise normal and functional, even with a rare disease.

The only real class that this profits are industrialists and corporatists. Eliminating undesirables means profit margins might rise by a percentage.

[Anonymous No.11394486]

>>11394473
What was the point of it?

[Anonymous No.11394487]

>>11390642
Episcopal Christians have a higher IQ on average than atheists and irreligious people. Also, Israeli jews usually attend Christian Arab schools which are also known for offering a better education on average

[Anonymous No.11394489]

>>11394487
They don't

[Anonymous No.11394491]

>>11394486
the point was the "point" which you reffered to in saying "not the point"

[Anonymous No.11394495]

>>11391665
fetus deletus, problem solved

[Anonymous No.11394555]

>>11394472
>State enforced eugenics is bad idea
What about voluntary individual eugenics done through embryo selection or genetic modifications?
That's much more likely than mass sterilisations.

[Anonymous No.11394573]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/17/boris-johnson-adviser-quits-over-race-and-eugenics-writings

[Anonymous No.11394584]

>>11394555
genetic modification is not eugenics

[Anonymous No.11394605]

>>11394489
I need to find the study, although most studies group religion together. Of course comparing an overwhelming majority of the world population will cause the average IQ to decrease. When religions are broken dowm by sect, Episcopals have a higher IQ on average than both jews and irreligious groups (including atheists). I'll try to find it since most studies just group religion vs irreligion or religion vs atheism.

[Anonymous No.11394609]

>>11394264
lack of an ability to abstract. they are intuitive and feeling by design, they only have gut reactions. they cannot entertain thoughts that go against this, because they cannot create new models and test them through abstraction. this is why women are better at writing or art but bad at science and technology

[Anonymous No.11394619]

>>11394555
eugenics is a population wide program so there is no such thing as individual eugenics

[Anonymous No.11394627]

>>11394271
so mad!
>>11394445
>have sex
and you continue writing after saying that? on this board? you should try taking your own advice

most people implicitly practice eugenics through sexual selection and family marriages. looks like you don't want to accept that though

[Anonymous No.11394629]

>>11394627
>sexual selection and family marriages
not eugenics

[Anonymous No.11394643]

what they write
>eugenics is already being practised through selection so why not let smart people do it on a large scale
what they mean
>nobody wants to have sex with me so the government should provide me with a wife

[Anonymous No.11394653]

>>11394643
A person's motivation does not weaken their argument roastie.

[Anonymous No.11394664]

>>11394629
Also to add on much of human sexuality is biologically pointless and not goal oriented. Most sex does not even lead to breeding. Perversity is the defining mark of humanity. When you say normal sexual counters are eugenics you basically out yourself as inexperienced or an incel at most.
>>11394643
Yea it is embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.11394666]

>>11390647
+1 / sage

[Anonymous No.11394672]

>>11394653
what argument?

[Anonymous No.11394699]

>>11394672
eugenics is already being practised through selection so why not let smart people do it on a large scale

[Anonymous No.11394704]

>>11394643
some systems where it actually was implemented simply gave some couples more money as an incentive to have another kid

[Anonymous No.11394710]

>>11394704
That's not eugenics. Why can't retards look up what words mean?

[Anonymous No.11394714]

>>11394699
false premise

[Anonymous No.11394722]

>>11394573
>unironically linking theguardian
Why would you think anyone wants to read shameless propaganda?

[Anonymous No.11394723]

>>11394710
How is it not eugenics?

[Anonymous No.11394726]

>>11394573
What did the guy write?

[Anonymous No.11394732]

>>11394723
because it excludes nobody from the population?

[Anonymous No.11394738]

>>11394732
>encourage those with successful genes to increase their contribution to the gene pool.
Long term effects are about comparative ratiios

[Anonymous No.11394745]

>>11394714
proof?

[Anonymous No.11394751]

>>11394745
the definition of eugenics

[Anonymous No.11394775]

>>11394264
>evolution stops where my feelings begin

[Anonymous No.11394777]

>>11394699
That's just natural selection not eugenics.
though the distictioon can get quite mired

[Anonymous No.11394778]

>>11394609
Women are worse at writing and art for the exact reasons you mentioned.

[Anonymous No.11394793]

>>11390642
Jews have a higher IQ because they score better on the verbal portion. People 100 years ago would be considered literally retarded on average yet this difference is almost exclusively due to verbal iq increases. Seems logical to just say verbal IQ is a sham.

[Anonymous No.11394794]

>>11389686
How do those animals participate in eugenics?

[Anonymous No.11394911]

>>11394793
Can confirm. Got 142 on the verbal IQ when they were testing me for autism as a kid - It required a whole bunch of culturally embedded information that I'm not sure starving african children would have figured out.

[Anonymous No.11395018]

>>11394555
Voluntary eugenics is literally just marrying and having children with a partner you find physically attractive and can manage a stable long term relationship with. The key to success is literally programmed into your genes.

Modern society has just become so fucked up that people now prioritize their personal success over the long-term welfare of our species.

[Anonymous No.11395123]

>>11394793
>>11394911
then why are jews so good at business and computer programming and art?

[Anonymous No.11395161]

Shorter people live longer, I'm also heterozygous for FOXO3 and am 5'7". Join the manlet master race, tallness is dysgenic.

[Anonymous No.11395174]

>>11389686
Didn't Spartans already proven this to some extent?

[Anonymous No.11395179]

>>11395123
Because of their practice of nepotism

[Anonymous No.11395253]

>>11394793
>>11395179
>The /pol/ axioms

[Anonymous No.11395268]

>>11394794
We call it selective breeding for animals and eugenics for humans idiot. It's basically the same process.

[Anonymous No.11395269]

>>11389686
We literally JUST had this thread.

[Anonymous No.11395532]

>>11395269
it's archived now and i only just got here, don't get your tits in a twist.

[Anonymous No.11395613]

[Anonymous No.11395620]

>>11394726
In one post from 2014, he suggested that politicians should pay attention to “very real racial differences in intelligence” when designing the immigration system, and another from that year suggested black people on average have lower IQs than white people.

In a book review, he also argued that benefit claimants “tend to be less conscientious and agreeable” and should be encouraged to have fewer children than people in work with more “pro-social personalities”.

Another internet posting from 2014 suggested the government could “legally enforce universal uptake of long-term contraception at the onset of puberty” to help prevent a “permanent underclass”.

In 2015, Sabisky also proposed IQ tests for all 11-year-olds to help distribute money to schools, based on variation in intelligence rather than the economic background of their parents

[Anonymous No.11395621]

>>11395123
>computer programming
Are they actually good at this?

[Anonymous No.11395657]

>>11395620
all those are valid points,
the modern world was supposed to be science/reason/non-feelings oriented but instead we got this politically correct mess

[Anonymous No.11395752]

>>11395613
Taken out of context.

[Anonymous No.11395777]

>>11394793
>Jews have a higher IQ because they score better on the verbal portion
>this totally explains why they're overrepresented in sciences and mathematics
gj retard

[Anonymous No.11395782]

>>11394777
Is executing certain kinds of people natural selection? Because we've been doing that for most of the last thousands years and it had some very eugenic effects on removing savages.

[Anonymous No.11395802]

>>11394775
Yes. We cannot defend richard now.

[Anonymous No.11395806]

>>11395657
Nationalism is feelings oriented.
All your /pol/ propaganda falls apart if you stop feeding the feelings of race war preppers.

[Anonymous No.11395820]

>>11395752
what's the context, seems like a self contained tweet

[Anonymous No.11395830]

People literally only hate eugenics because Hitler had something to do with it 80 years ago. This is one of the least controversial stances a scientist could have.

[Anonymous No.11395840]

It’s one thing to deplore slavery on ideological, political, moral grounds. It’s quite another to conclude that it wouldn’t work in practice. Of course it would. It works for cattle, horses, camels, dogs & donkeys. Why on earth wouldn’t it work for humans? Facts ignore ideology.

[Anonymous No.11395843]

>>11395840
just one detail:
>cattle, horses, camels, dogs & donkeys
>slaves

[Anonymous No.11395846]

>>11395657
The modern world was supposed to be money oriented.

[Anonymous No.11395914]

>>11395777
It wasn’t meant to explain why they are over represented retard, you’re the only one strawmanning that argument. It’s just meant to explain, gasp, their higher IQ. Academic success has a number of factors.

[Anonymous No.11395940]

>>11395843
It seems to have worked on slaves too

[Anonymous No.11395945]

>>11395840
I’m going to assume I’m misunderstanding you here, cause the argument I think you’re is so fucking dumb I’d hate to misrepresent you that badly. But the only point I think you’re trying to make is “slavery is bad and if we believe Dawkins we would have to say something good about it, which is bad, therefore he must be wrong”. His quote indeed still works for slavery, incredibly cheap labor would obviously increase the owner’s profits. But the real kicker is that even if it wasn’t true for slavery, it’d still have no bearing on the original statement. This is nothing more than a shitty emotional appeal.

[Anonymous No.11395962]

>>11394094
>>11394137
Anglican anglosaxons have the highest IQ in the world.

[Anonymous No.11396007]

>>11395613
If this is real and not taken out of context it's incredibly based.

[Anonymous No.11396010]

>>11395840
This is a true statement though. Of course slavery can be practiced. Should it? Well I wouldn't mind a sex slave or two.

[Anonymous No.11396011]

When you say euginics "works" then you aren't even asking the real question. It's a teleological issue not an engineering issue. He has already assumed the value he is trying to argue for, begging the question and naturalistic fallacy in one word.

[Anonymous No.11396017]

>>11395806
Imagine being this deluded
Leftists live in a bubble

[Anonymous No.11396019]

>>11396017
Everyone lives in a bubble anon, welcome to the 2020s.

[Anonymous No.11396034]

>>11395840
yes and?

[Anonymous No.11396037]

>>11394643
Dawkins has kids and a wife already you retard

[Anonymous No.11396056]

>>11390522
Why ? It matters very little whether same topics are made, retard.

[Anonymous No.11396147]

>>11391615
Good genes are the ones that increase the chances of long term survival for the species, or the tribe, or whatever. There is still a big discussion on which genes those might be, or if there are unintended consequences (there almost certainly are), but it's very difficult to argue against getting rid of Down syndrome, or some even worse genetic disorder.

[Anonymous No.11396149]

>>11394495
Kek

[Anonymous No.11396174]

>>11395806
You're seeing spoopy ghosts everywhere
>>11396011
He is saying that eugenics would achieve some goal he has in mind (say, getting rid of some disease or making people physically stronger) the same way it does with animals. It has nothing to do with whether the goal is desirable in the first place, that was exactly the point of the tweet.

[Anonymous No.11396191]

Why do people hate eugenics again?

[Anonymous No.11396281]

>>11396191
They're taught to.

[Anonymous No.11396352]

>>11396191
Its common sense

[Anonymous No.11396366]

>>11394487
>>11394489
>>11394605

[Anonymous No.11396387]

>>11396366
source?

[Anonymous No.11396396]

>>11394271
kek

[Anonymous No.11396409]

>>11396191
Humans are fundamentally emotional creatures. If you are pro-eugenics you are probably an under-socialized incel desu.

[Anonymous No.11396438]

>>11394271

[Anonymous No.11396458]

>>11394777
>natural selection
Actually, it's sexual selection, not natural selection. It's a twin force and you're supposed to know it exists. Pretty rich that you're the one getting confused by it, after what you said.

[Anonymous No.11396516]

>>11396409
Aren't incels the once who are supposed to be against eugenics?

[Anonymous No.11396518]

>>11396147
downies and africans are a God given gift you can't just gas them

[Anonymous No.11396520]

>>11396409
>>11396516
Incels mainly advocate for enforced monogamy

[Anonymous No.11396525]

>>11396191
Because it takes away what we feel is a fundamental right from the individual, the right to find a mate and reproduce.
The government reviewing your profile and determining if you're fit to have kids sounds a bit like a nightmare scenario. Sure, I think we'd all agree that people with Down's Syndrome shouldn't reproduce, but where's the clear line? Anyone with any sort of genetic defect? Anyone with IQ under 90? Anywhere you draw the line, you're gonna get people like:
>"downies and africans are a God given gift you can't just gas them".

>>11396516
My guess is that incels would be pro-eugenics because they would think that they'll get a government assigned mate or something, ya know, because they're so full of redeeming qualities. Probably a bitter attitude along the lines of "Why does HE (e.g. sub 100 iq/black/poor/etc) get to reproduce and I don't??".

[Anonymous No.11396544]

>>11396525
>My guess is that incels would be pro-eugenics
But they consider themselves genetically inferior (rather than considering the true cause of their condition aka bad parenting and lack of socialization), thus they would be part of the group who needs to be sterelized.

[Anonymous No.11396554]

>>11396520
no they don't, they want free plastic surgery to emulate chad looks, just like trannies

[Anonymous No.11396561]

>>11394264
I don't get this.

The fact that eugenics works but we make the choice not to use it, based on ethical concerns, makes that choice all the more meaningful and important. If eugenics didn't work at all, then the choice to not use it for ethical concerns would be a hollow lie.

If we're presented with the choice of doing something we know doesn't work or choosing not to do that same thing that doesn't work, then isn't that an "illusion or choice?" I'm not sure if that phrase is used correctly. Does it have a better name?
Anyway, pretending it doesn't work just cheapens the moral rational behind not doing eugenics. It weakens any ethical argument. This evolutionary biologist is weakening their moral high ground.

[Anonymous No.11396564]

>>11396516
Incels are high IQ so they would be exempt and given hot women to perpetuate their intelligence and to offset their physical faults

[Anonymous No.11396571]

>>11396544
I don't think many incels consider themselves to be inferior. Actually, I think a lot of them consider themselves to be superior (aside from looks), and that's part of the reason that nobody wants to date them.
Exhibit #1: >>11396564

[Anonymous No.11396592]

>>11396564
bait, most incels are shut in neets

[Anonymous No.11396593]

>>11396458
no I only replued to your reply to another anon.

[Anonymous No.11396673]

>>11396592
Shut in often correlates with high intelligence. Employ them and give them an 8/10 to mate with. The next generation is both smarter AND hotter. Within a couple gens the issue is completely fixed. If this bothers you it means you're a woman

[Anonymous No.11396712]

>>11396387
I found it: https://helmuthnyborg.dk/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Publ_2009_The-Intellligence-Religiosity-Nexus.pdf
Lmao the study is a complete joke.
>Auto information
>Shop information
>Electronics information
>Assembling objects
>ASVAB
They couldn't have chosen worse tests. Also the jews still had the highest in population proportion of geniuses and produced significantly more individuals with 120+ iq. Also the study didn't count secular jews, who are atheist.

[Anonymous No.11396720]

Eugenics only triggers those that wouldn't exist if it was applied.

[Anonymous No.11396734]

>>11389686

I mean he's right, I don't really see how this became a big deal, it's completely physically possible.

You know what else works? CRISPR, we literally ha the ability to brute force a human version 2.0, I'm surprised China hast made the ubermench that Hitler could only dream of yet.

[Anonymous No.11396751]

>>11396720
Good point.

[Anonymous No.11396857]

>>11396751
>>11396720
Untrue.

[Anonymous No.11397041]

>>11396458
>he thinks natural selection and sexual selection are two different things

[Anonymous No.11397045]

>>11396720
/thread

[Anonymous No.11397063]

>>11396720
>Eugenics only triggers those that wouldn't exist if it was applied.
Hitler believed in eugenics. His belief in the perfect man would have made his birth impossible cause he didn't fit his own description of the "perfect human."

Your argument is invalid.

[Anonymous No.11397073]

>>11396734
Because CRISPR is an injection technique that works. That doesn't mean we have a formula to inject that works.
We need significantly more research into the results of attempted modification of the human genome before it's possible to make an ubermensch, right now it would be a shot in the dark based on some pretty basic understanding of what our genes are actually doing.

[Anonymous No.11397129]

>>11394264
>I WAS GIVEN STATUS, AND SO IF I SAY IT'S WRONG, IT'S WRONG

[Anonymous No.11397327]

>>11396720
Nah, it's potentially open to abuse, which is a very legitimate concern.
you run the risk of creating a slave class

[Anonymous No.11397330]

>>11389686
It would work fine for humans if we were just trying to breed longer toes and not care much about anything else like we do with a lot of animals. Breeding a healthy, intelligent and physically strong human is something else entirely.

[Anonymous No.11397804]

>>11394643
We have Mutt's law, but can we have Female's law?
>The longer a debate continues, the odds of a female insinuating the opponent is a virgin approaches 1

[Anonymous No.11397814]

>>11396191
Most societies practiced eugenics (sterilizing severely mentally ill) until WW2 when it got branded to Hitler's name. Now it's all brainwashing.
Somehow virtue signallers have it in their minds that breeding generations of deformed, disfuctional babies in constant pain and confusion is more ethical than eugenics.

[Anonymous No.11397816]

>>11397063
All x are y but not all y are x retard

[Anonymous No.11397913]

>>11397816
are you trying to say Hitler being born was a good thing?!?

that's refreshingly honest

[Anonymous No.11397923]

>>11397913
Hitler being born WAS a good thing, but that's aside from the point. He said that the only people offended by eugenics are those affected, he didn't say that all people affected were offended though. Therefore Hitler (PBUH) being an exception doesn't invalidate his point at all

[Anonymous No.11397927]

>>11396544
>But they consider themselves genetically inferior
We already saw the Elliot Rodgers youtube rant

[Anonymous No.11397934]

>>11397923
>t. actual neo-nazi that just outed themselves

[Anonymous No.11397984]

>>11394271
That force applied to the head results in trauma causing death, retard

[Anonymous No.11398007]

>>11397923
Reminder that Hitler blew his brains out and Nazi Germany got its shit kicked in. Fascism lost and is a loser ideology.

[Anonymous No.11398090]

>>11395802
Yes. An evolutionary dead end.

[Anonymous No.11398142]

>>11396544
They don't want to see more people suffer like them.

[Anonymous No.11398194]

>>11394271
>And if I were to bash your head in with a sledgehammer, Richard, that would work in killing you. But what's the point in saying that?
your analogy should be extended to cover the presence of people who deny this.

[Anonymous No.11398218]

>>11394264
>evolutionary biologist

[Anonymous No.11398228]

>>11396056
you don’t have to sign your posts here.

[Anonymous No.11398391]

>>11392073
>holohoax
Retarded stormfag

[Anonymous No.11398564]

>>11394067
yes but the bigger issue is that it's dependent on the balance of the IQ test, their balanced IQ is around 109, visuospatial is around 97 and the verbal/reasoning component is around 115

[Anonymous No.11398791]

>>11398007
>Fascism lost and is a loser ideology
revitalizing a country ruined by hyperinflation and world war I and then getting ganged up on by 90% of the world while managing to last 6 years fighting two fronts = failed loser ideology

[Anonymous No.11398859]

All the posters saying we have a moral/ethical obligation to reject eugenics, the problem is that we ARE breeding for certain traits right now.

People who are too dumb or careless to use birth control and who are inclined to consume the most public resources as welfare for their brood are currently the ones with the most reproductive success, while the most wealthy and educated often forego reproduction entirely. Shouldn't people recognize what a gathering nightmare scenario that is?

I don't have any ready solutions either but am frustrated at the folks pretending what's happening right now is in any way "natural selection" and homo sapiens doesn't already have tremendous, perversely incentivized breeding pressures.

[Anonymous No.11398878]

>>11398859
yep, Idiocracy was a documentary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP2tUW0HDHA

[Anonymous No.11398880]

>>11398859
you should look at the religious beliefs of those most effectively exploiting welfare.

[Anonymous No.11399184]

>>11389686
Literally no one literate or honest could read this tweet and say that he's supporting eugenics.

[Anonymous No.11399191]

>>11399184
And then you look at the thousands of replies and virtually none of them reflect that. He conjured a digital lynch mob with a wave of his thumbs.

[Anonymous No.11399196]

>>11398791
ik, it's honestly impressive and I'm liberal.
most people are legitimately afraid to respect anything about anyone they don't have every reason to like tbqh.
they're afraid it will change them.

[Anonymous No.11399203]

>>11394445
1) pic related
2) Even if you screech "muh-soggy-knee" on #1, it's still an ad hominem.
3) Since we're using ad hominems, apparently, why would I listen to a creeper who obsesses over the sexual activity of a bunch of retards on 4Chan?
4) No, there IS something wrong, because assholes are lying by saying that ol' Dick supports eugenics.

[Anonymous No.11399221]

>>11398791
>>11398791
>revitalizing a country ruined by hyperinflation and world war I
I admit that this is an achievement, however the country was not "ruined" and the nazis came into power at the time when the whole world was starting to recover from the 29 crisis.
>and then getting ganged up on by 90% of the world while managing to last 6 years fighting two fronts
That is not an achievement when your ideology and retard leaders are at fault for getting the country in that situation. Hitler was the one that declared war on the US and USSR turning them into allies. Fascism is at fault for promoting dictators and imperialism.

[Anonymous No.11399833]

>>11396561
>The fact that eugenics works
>eugenics works

[Anonymous No.11399840]

>>11394271
Denying science on the basis of ethics is a dangerous precedent.