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I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS SHIT BOARD!!!
When moot first created the /sci/ board every homework/troll thread was welcomed with extreme harshness and plenty of sage but it seems that the overflowing population of under-aged posters(summer) is turning this board into shit.
Troll threads get 50+ replies while real science threads 404 in a couple of minutes.
Tomorrow I'm gonna create an image that explains how to fucking behave on this board and I am gonna post it at least 20 times a day till the situation improves.
Feel free to suggest things that I should add apart from how to distinguish troll threads from genuine ones and how not to act like a retard.
Matrix always related...

>> No.1138875

Neo = /sci/
Bullets = Newfags & Trolls

Good luck with that OP

>> No.1138872
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1138872

all metathreads are troll threads

>> No.1138880

The first page has almost all actual science threads. So go sit in the corner and don't come out until I tell you.

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1138885

>>1138872
>saging a good thread

>> No.1138887

I don't like you.

>> No.1138891

lets keep posts and responses at least safe for workish

>> No.1138896
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1138896

>>1138885
> saging a troll thread
ftfy

>> No.1138897

I kinda miss the days when /sci/ was full of quantum equations and there were derivatives everywhere. I bet newfags don't even know how to use jsMath

>> No.1138914

>>1138897

It was never like this. Before this bored was made a little while ago, I spent all my time on 7chan's /sci/, but NO ONE FUCKING GOES THERE. I'd rather have an active board that sucks with some glimmers of hope than a few decent threads that stay up for weeks before anyone replies.

>> No.1138916

>>1138897

I'm not a newfag and don't call me that, I don't use nerd shit btw

>> No.1138927

>>1138891
Good idea...
I would hate to show /sci/ to a fellow colleague and find porn threads on the first page...
Can someone please post some resources (links) for math/physics/chemistry? Something similar to khanacademy would be appreciated

>> No.1138925

>>1138914

It went to shit around the "evolution is just a geuss" and "MAGNETS".

Once again, clowns were my downfall

>> No.1138933

>>1138916
>mathematical notation
>nerd shit
what are you doing on this board then, son?

>> No.1138934

>>1138897
<span class="math">\bf what makes you think that?[/spoiler]

>> No.1138935

>>1138897
/sci/ was NEVER like that you faggot

>> No.1138953

>>1138925


which was by day one

>> No.1138960

It gets better at night when all the kiddies are asleep.

>> No.1138963

I will also post this image 20 times a day.

RELIGION VS. SCIENCE
Everything.
THEIST VS. ATHEIST

>> No.1138971
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1138971

> moot first created the /sci/ board

Read and reread the above till it sinks in. It's not here for your bitch-about-threads thread.

>> No.1138970

NEVER PROVE SOMEONE WRONG WHEN IT'S OBVIOUS TO YOU.

You will be trolled.

>> No.1138966

>>1138867
>Complains about underage B&
>Posts the matrix
/facepalm

>> No.1138968

>>1138935
Obviously /sci/ has never been so shitty either
P.S: Why are you insulting the owner of that post? Can you tell the author's sexual preferences only by looking at their text?

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1138982

You have my axe !

>> No.1138991
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1138991

> /sci/ is shit
> post metathread about /sci/ being shit
> increase shittiness with metathreads
this is why all metathreads are troll threads folks

>> No.1138999

>>1138872
>>1138896
>>1138991
>People talk about improving the state of /sci/
Advicemoron.jpg
>Make a fuss and sage

>> No.1139012

>>1138867
Tomorrow I'm gonna post pictures of dicks and god and I am gonna post them at least 20 times a day till all idiots (including you) get out of /sci/.

>> No.1139013

A few minutes? I thought page 15 was usually atleast 6 hours old

>> No.1139037
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1139037

There is no hope for this place.

/sci/ will be gone in a couple of months and it cannot be helped.

5% of the people brwsing this place actually make interesting threads. Josef is the only good tripfag here and I think he left by now.

>> No.1139041

>>1138867
Ignoring the faggots shouting about how bad this thread is, here are some suggestions (assuming that you are serious).
1. If your making a post about fucking magnets, GTFO.
2. If you are making a thread involving something reaching the speed of light, GTFO.
3. If you are making a thread beginning with a large equation, GTFO.
4. If you are making a tier thread, GTFO.
5. If you are making a religion vs. science thread, GTFO.
6. If you are making a thread that fits into the form of "ask a ____ anything", GTFO.
etc.

>> No.1139042

>>1139013
I just wanted to say that nobody posts in them. I'm sorry I exaggerated.
Can you post something helpful, non-anonymous poster?

>> No.1139059

>>1139041
thank you for your help
I'll get a few more ideas and post what i have so far...

>> No.1139069

>real science threads

m(

>> No.1139106

>>1139069
Can you define what a science thread means to you?

>> No.1139107

Let's be honest here.

Homework threads is the most interesting stuff we get here.

HERPADURP FASTER THAN LIGHT SPEED

HERPADURP WHOS THE BEST SCIENTIST OF ALL TIME GUISE LOL

OMG WILL IT MOVE?

ENGINEERING IS NOT SCIENCE TROLOLOLO

HEY IM PHD ON PHYSICS ASK ME ANYTHING!

>> No.1139143

>>1139107
>implying your shitty posts aren't part of the problem

>> No.1139166
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1139166

Only interesting threads I've seen in a week were about the lab raid.

Scratch that. Make that the only non- /x/ bullshit or religion troll threads in a week, let alone interesting.

And frankly the /x/ shit is worse because they're not even trolling so much as willfully ignorant.

>> No.1139174

>>1139143
your green text + "implying" make you look even worse.
At least he made an effort and contributed to the thread.

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1139191

>>1139174
> praise for contributing to a troll thread
fuck man are you even trying

>> No.1139205

Don't insult someone without a good reason. Even better, never insult someone. Show him why he is wrong,correct him and you should stop right there.Act like a responsible adult.
You can be offensive towards someone if he is: -trolling *the approach here is to ignore him. Pointing out that he's a troll is a good way to prevent other posters from falling into his trap.
-breaking the site/board's rules
-using text emoticons/reaction images
-posting off-topic content/retarded comment (see trolling)
-starting his comment with >implying (don't even bother reading that)

Anything else to add??

>> No.1139211

>>1139166
I've seen much more interesting threads than that, but they're quickly buried under a tons of religion/troll/homework/meta threads.

>> No.1139223

>>1139191
You still haven't figured out that I am not trolling??

>> No.1139233

>>1139211

Such as?

>> No.1139236

dont like it fuck off op and those complaining

>> No.1139246

NO RELIGION VS. SCIENCE
NO THEIST VS. ATHEIST
NO ENGINEERING VS SCIENCE

No homework threads

How to identify a troll and how to react

Safe for work board

Proper grammar & don't bother correcting someone's post (he could be trolling)

It gets better at night when all the kiddies are asleep.

Use of jsMath is encouraged

more stuff to add?

>> No.1139261

>>1139166
lab raid was good. i still wanna know where that was, because it may be near my house.

>> No.1139263

>>1139205
>Show him why he is wrong,correct him and you should stop right there.

Are you seriously suggesting people should reply to magnet threads?

>> No.1139269

>>1139236
I'm sorry to inform you but this board has a purpose, and most of us come here for "Science & Math".
If you come here for that very reason then it's your duty to help the community. If not, there's a board called Random that suits you.

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1139291

the more i know the less i want to discover about the world. i mean there are no fucking wonders, everything is boring as shit, no supertechnology, no fucking aliens with megastructurs floating around in space.

science was made to prove god, but we have proven that there is no god and everything is random and meaningless, why do keep on doing science?

pic kinda related, it will be forever impossible

>> No.1139312

>>1139246
Without those troll threads at the top of your list, /sci/ will be nothing but homework threads and "favorite molecule!!!1" threads. Fuck that shit, at least the religion garbage is fun when it turns into atheist v. agnostic shitstorm.

Oh, what else will be dominating our "sci of tomorrow." More fucking Sagan/Tesla/Tyson/random threads. More flourine copypasta.

Improving sci? fuck no, you won't be.

And that's why these are troll threads. Trying to troll people into making sci as shitty as a million other no-bullshit forums that we could be at, but aren't.

>> No.1139315

>>1139263
I will put Magnet threads on the list of troll threads. Also:
If someone already answered a question don't bother posting unless you have a different opinion and you can reason your thinking.
-> One good post explaining why it wouldn't work should prevent the others from replying.

>> No.1139326

>>1139233
Dude, have you checked out the current 150 /sci/ threads? There are still very cool and interesting threads not 404'd.

>> No.1139328

>>1139269
>implying this board wasn't made to troll science and mathematics you dumb nerd

>> No.1139367

>>1139326

Not seeing it.

I have the view all threads and filter scripts for greasemonkey. Automatically filtering out the pasta and common trolls, there are only 28 threads remaining, of which all are either meta threads or variations of trolls that evade the filter.

>> No.1139389

>>1139367

Wait, now there's a powder toy thread. So there's one, depending on where it goes.

>> No.1139427

>>1139312
You should also think about the value of this board. It's supposed to be a place of education and learning:
-People posting homework threads will get links to learning resources so they could figure out 'basic' stuff on their own.
-People questioning really hard stuff will get fruitful conversations going.
-Nobody cares about your religion. You can believe anything you want as long as you do some science.
-Threads about famous physicists will contain information related to their work.. .
-Fun will still be there, but at least you won't wasting your time for nothing..
As for you.....
>>1139291
>science was made to prove god
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science

>> No.1139447

>>1139427
Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to /sci/ 2.0

>> No.1139485

Hey dumbass.
Now that we're in summer, we'll have much fewer idiots asking for homework help. These people will be weeded out, and instead we'll get curious young minds that you can help to educate.

>> No.1139578

>>1139328
I am saying exactly what I mean and not implying anything. You should stop writing like that.
>>1139485
You mean curious young minds who don't know basic trigonometry right?
Also it's not our job (as an image board) to educate them, that's for what teachers are for.
If they are really passionate about science they should struggle a little bit and learn for themselves.
We just cannot afford to explain to a 14 year old(or 20+ retarded troll) why holding a magnet in front of your car wouldn't accelerate it indefinitely.

>> No.1139620

>>1139578
I never said it was your job. As a man of science it should be your fucking pleasure.

And why force them to struggle with things when you (or people around here who aren't douchebags) could easily explain things to them? You don't get to decide what is and isn't allowed on this board. This is Science & Math. If it's Science or Math, it's supposed to be on this fucking board. If it's genuine curiosity and not homework, it is allowed on this board. You not being able to differentiate between a troll and someone who is curious is no reason for you to go around spouting this bullshit.

>> No.1139628

Ok /sci/ i think that i have enough material for my "How to use the /sci/ board" visual guide.
You have all been very helpful. Thank you.
I will delete the thread in a few minutes to avoid cluttering the board.

>> No.1139636

>>1139620
>As a man of science it should be your fucking pleasure.

Screw that, I'd rather spend my time researching new things than waste it on some witless fuck who is too lazy to do the same.

>> No.1139665

>>1139636
And people like you have no place in the scientific community. A major part of science is teaching what you know so it can spread.

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1139671

hello

>> No.1139693

>>1139620
I agree with you that we should guide young minds and promote curiosity. That is why you should be polite to everyone and offer links to other sites to those whose knowledge is very limited about a certain subject.
But great minds should be focused on solving greater problems. We should offer a bit of guiding to those who know very little but in the end we should think about the important stuff.
It would be a big waste if a brilliant mind (any famous physicist) would spent most of his time teaching Newton's laws to young children.

>> No.1139696

>>1139671
gesus is the reason we can't have nice things

>> No.1139703

>>1139665

No, that's what instructors are for. We have an entire industry based around that. You may have heard of these "school" things.

A major part of science is publishing, so that you get funding. As a happy side-effect this also spreads knowledge.

Well, to people who aren't too lazy to read the publications anyway.

>> No.1139721

>>1139693
So this is basically just because you think you are too far above them to be teaching them rudimentary science.

Wouldn't you also say that it is a waste for a great mind such as yours to be wasted on this community of plebeians? Or creating an image telling them how to behave and posting it here regularly? Do you realize the irony in this? You're saying it's a waste of time for a great mind to spend maybe ten minutes at the ABSOLUTE MOST explaining something to somebody, yet you're going through all this trouble because you can't tell a troll from an idiot.

>> No.1139761

>>1139693
Take a look at this thread
>>1139251
How long do you think it took these people to recommend these readings? Less than a minute for most of the posts, I'd be willing to bet. Think about how much those mere minutes will help that person in understanding the universe.

>> No.1139828

>>1139721
I'm doing this so that hundreds of people would find good information and smart people when they come here. So that those individuals don't have to spend 10 minutes each to explain to someone something that they could have learned by reading a wiki article or paying attention in class.
And no, I don't consider myself smart or above the others. There are very bright people in this world but their ideas only reach a few of us just because they don't have a good medium to send their information.
Do you know how even the tiniest action might have worldwide effects(butterfly effect)? I hope that by improving an anonymous board on the internet people will change and our future will be more bright. There's a very big chance that someone very smart comes to this place and leaves right away because it's a big shithole. If that person passed his knowledge to 10 people who would see his thread and those 10 people passed on the knowledge even further our whole world could be influenced.

>> No.1139859

>>1139761
that is how every thread on this board should be.
Nobody wants to sort trough 95% of garbage(troll threads and everything unrelated) to find something worth reading.

>> No.1139889

>>1139859
Yes, but no guide will make this board any less troll-able. EVERY board has trolls, and EVERY board has people who tell everyone to ignore them. That is 4chan. It's not going to change.

>> No.1139923

>>1139889
if upon posting a troll thread, the OP doesn't get a reply it will disappoint him.
There's a big chance that he will 'samefag' a few times but if he still doesn't get any reply he will just leave this board and never come back.
Let's say that an ignorant person replies to the troll... it would be ideal that someone sages the thread (not to bump it) and points out that OP is trolling and why people shouldn't bother replying.
OP would give up and move to another board...
And that's how we could have more relevant content and less garbage...

>> No.1139930

>>1139923
Sage isn't the magic word you seem to think it is, all it does is make you look butthurt.

>> No.1139942

>>1139923
And if we had a magical troll detector we could stoop them from posting, but that shit isn't happening. We can point out it's a troll as many times as we want, dumbass thirteen year olds will still try and make themselves seem smart and argue with the troll.

>> No.1139967

>>1139930
When you see that the first 3 replies are sage posts or nobody replies at all i think that you should just quit trolling and move on...
It means that people there aren't that stupid to reply...
I'm afraid i can't stay anymore to chat because it's almost 1 AM here but i must inform you that i enjoyed a lot this conversation.
Have a good day/night.

>> No.1139968

ITT: whiny faggots looking for a serious board on science on a place like 4chan

"4chan's science board" is an oxymoron

>> No.1140002

you have to be pretty stupid to expect a real scientific conversation on 4chan.

>> No.1140064

>>1140002
Yeah, imagine trying to discuss anything on 4chan, what's the point eh?

Let's just get back to spamming the word nigger over and over again.

>> No.1140144

>>1139205

>lol fag :3

>> No.1140154

>>1139671

He has the pic saved. I wonder why.....

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>> No.1140159

>>1140064
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