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11365748 No.11365748 [Reply] [Original]

>cytokine storm
>r0 is between 3 and 5
>patients recover then relapse

https://mobile.twitter.com/MailOnline/status/1225514552386826244

>> No.11365771

>>11365748
When they found that protein envelope was an exact match with the common bat coronavirus, that was the big clue. China tried to say, "See? It bat soup. It come from bat." But it was thene explained that, no, in any evolution of a virus (in this case, from old corona to nCoV), there should be differences between the old and the new.

It's like the old Columbo or Murder She Wrote cases where there's some signature on a piece of paper that's a clue, and someone says, "But the signature is an exact match!" and then the detective goes, "Ah, but that's the point! Signatures always vary at least a little bit, and the only way this signature could be exact, is if it was copied!"

The nCoV was deliberately engineered, taking a splice of the old bat coronavirus, and adding it to the new engineered version. There's no other explanation.

And yeah, OP, your examples of the results of this nCoV are pretty frightening and useful for a bio-weapon, for sure!

>> No.11365781 [DELETED] 

Keep in mind, the people who released the virus a VERY keen on travel continuing like normal - so that it spreads as much as possible.

See the official WHO (United Nations) statement: https://www.infowars.com/who-demands-countries-not-impose-travel-restrictions-to-avoid-fear-and-stigma/

And watch the Coronavirus simulation/exercise the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation held together with UN representatives 2 months before the virus was released, in which they discuss the """"importance""" of continuing travel and having open borders:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm1-DnxRiPM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkGNvWflCNM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWRmlumcN_s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBuP40H4Tko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-_FAjNSd58

At that meeting they projected 200 million deaths but ended up with 65 million. One of the dudes (Timothy Evans) at the table then joked that they "only" got 65 million instead of 200 million.

Also see this interview with an expert on biological weapons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsyujjitOFM

>> No.11365783

Keep in mind, the people who released the virus are VERY keen on travel continuing like normal - so that it spreads as much as possible.

See the official WHO (United Nations) statement: https://www.infowars.com/who-demands-countries-not-impose-travel-restrictions-to-avoid-fear-and-stigma/

And watch the Coronavirus simulation/exercise the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation held together with UN representatives 2 months before the virus was released, in which they discuss the """"importance""" of continuing travel and having open borders:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm1-DnxRiPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkGNvWflCNM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWRmlumcN_s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBuP40H4Tko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-_FAjNSd58

At that meeting they projected 200 million deaths but ended up with 65 million. One of the dudes (Timothy Evans) at the table then joked that they "only" got 65 million instead of 200 million.

Also see this interview with an expert on biological weapons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsyujjitOFM

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>>11365783
>Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation

>> No.11365787

>>11365748
You guys realize this virus was already known in animals right? It's not a newly discovered virus.

>> No.11365789

>>11365787
Indeed it isn't: https://patents.justia.com/patent/20170216427

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>>11365787
>believing the WHO's and China's lies

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>>11365785
>>11365793

>> No.11365807

>>11365787
>You guys realize this virus was already known in animals right?
The original virus of interest was the bat coronavirus. They used that virus to create the new one.

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>> No.11365813

>>11365802
https://www.bmj.com/content/346/bmj.f1301.full

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>>11365810
>half a billion

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>>11365814
Like rare earth metals... which China controls the vast majority of: https://files.catbox.moe/w54h1i.webm

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>>11365840

> “I do not pretend that birth control is the only way in which population can be kept from increasing. War has hitherto been disappointing in this respect, but perhaps bacteriological war may prove more effective. If a Black Death could be spread throughout the world once in every generation survivors could procreate freely without making the world too full. The state of affairs might be somewhat unpleasant, but what of that? Really high-minded people are indifferent to happiness, especially other people’s. There are three ways of securing a society that shall be stable as regards population. The first is that of birth control, the second that of infanticide or really destructive wars, and the third that of general misery except for a powerful minority.”

> – Bertrand Russell, THE IMPACT OF SCIENCE ON SOCIETY 1953

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>> No.11365859

>>11365783
OK so which corps invested big in disinfectant and facemasks?

>> No.11365863

>>11365856
many people have made offhand comments about depopulation.
only a few of them are actually credible threats bot taken out of context

>> No.11365867 [DELETED] 

>>11365856

> "Out of the full spectrum of human personality, one-fourth is electing to transcend…One-fourth is ready to so choose, given the example of one other…One-fourth is resistant to election. They are unattracted by life ever-evolving. One-fourth is destructive. They are born angry with God…They are defective seeds…There have always been defective seeds. In the past they were permitted to die a ‘natural death’…We, the elders, have been patiently waiting until the very last moment before the quantum transformation, to take action to cut out this corrupted and corrupting element in the body of humanity. It is like watching a cancer grow…Now, as we approach the quantum shift from creature-human to co-creative human—the human who is an inheritor of god-like powers—the destructive one-fourth must be eliminated from the social body. We have no choice, dearly beloveds. Fortunately you, dearly beloveds, are not responsible for this act. We are. We are in charge of God’s selection process for planet Earth. He selects, we destroy. We are the riders of the pale horse, Death. We come to bring death to those who are unable to know God…The riders of the pale horse are about to pass among you. Grim reapers, they will separate the wheat from the chaff. This is the most painful period in the history of humanity…"

> Futurist (((Barbara Marx Hubbard))), who wanted to create a Dept. of Peace

>> No.11365874

>>11365859
Surprise Twist: China is the biggest manufacturer of facemasks in the world. With workers ill and absent from their jobs, production will drop even if demand is high.

>> No.11365877

>>11365867

> Club of Rome, The First Global Revolution, 1991:

> “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. But in designating them as the enemy, we fall into the trap of mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.”

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>>11365877

> “My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of species, returning throughout the world.”
> -Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First

>> No.11365896

the bioweapon hypothesis is pants-on-head stupid

>> No.11365897

>>11365748
>cytokine storm
I'm a tourist, what does this mean

>> No.11365903

>>11365895

> Secretary of Defense (((William S. Cohen))), April 28, 1997, Testimony before Congressional Committee:

> “There are some reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least."

>> No.11365904

>>11365896
>the bioweapon hypothesis is pants-on-head stupid
It almost certainly is either a bioweapon or a research disease
The big question is whether it's an accidental release

>> No.11365905

>>11365904
it is none of those things.

>> No.11365907

>>11365897
It's when you're immune cells that fight the invaders, are being produced in such happy, health-fighting abundance, fill your lungs. Your lungs then become inflamed and filled with fluid, also allowing -bacterial- pneumonia (which is why antibiotics are often prescribed with viral pneumonia), and this extra stress can kill you flat!

>> No.11365910

>>11365896
You guys really need to step up your damage control game. This is pathetic.

>> No.11365911

>>11365905
Get some sleep, Tedros.

>> No.11365914

>>11365905
>the media told me that china is telling the truth

>>11365910
Most of the shills that China is funding are going to other parts of the site (namely /pol/), so we just end up with the low quality ones here.

>>11365897
when the immune system freaks out and unleashes everything all at once, which is somewhat effective against whatever illness it is fighting but usually causes a lot of damage to organs

>> No.11365916

so this person in the thread who saved all the images thinks reducing the population is a bad thing?
I hope they do it

>> No.11365919

>>11365897
Your immune system essentially explodes in a very literal sense. Essentially once your recover from the virus the first time, your body still has the antigen to fight it, when you get reinfected your immune system goes berserk and kills you through positive feedback. Unlike in children and elderly, cytokine storms happen mostly in health adults as their immune system is stronger.

>> No.11365922

>>11365916
enjoy your funeral

>> No.11365925

>>11365903

> “The Earth has cancer and the cancer is Man.”
> – Club of Rome, Mankind at the Turning Point

> “A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells, the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people. We must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many apparently brutal and heartless decisions.”
> – Prof. Paul Ehrlich - "The Population Bomb"

> “Humans on the Earth behave in some ways like a pathogenic micro-organism, or like the cells of a tumor.”
> – Sir James Lovelock - "Healing Gaia"

> “The extinction of the human species may not only be inevitable but a good thing.”
> – Christopher Manes of Earth First

> “A reasonable estimate for an industrialized world society at the present North American material standard of living would be 1 billion. At the more frugal European standard of living, 2 to 3 billion would be possible.”
> – The United Nations - "Global Biodiversity Assessment"

>> No.11365928

>>11365919
so the weak are killed by the initial disease and the strong by reinfection?

>> No.11365931

>>11365928
Yeah pretty much

>> No.11365932

>>11365928
basically.

>> No.11365936

>>11365916
It would be like informing a severe alcoholic that all the world's alcohol had been destroyed, he wouldn't be getting any more alcohol at all from that moment forward, and that it is a good thing because he will be a healthier person for it in the future.

Well, that might certainly be true, but that severe alcoholic is going to have to survive a shock to the system before they ever get to th at happy future. They may not survive the interim period as they try to dry-out (e.g. suffer the withdrawal symptoms, DTs).

>> No.11365938

>>11365931
>>11365932
will this flare up happen at every reinfection even if you fight off the second wave?

>> No.11365943

>>11365867
>>11365895
I like how these people preach this message like they are the next coming of Christ, speaking only the truth but they are the ones who aren't sacrificing themselves to carry out this goal. I mean if you really believe it then fucking kill yourself, what gives them the right to decide MY fate and the fate of others that are more ravenous and blood thirsty than these wanna be martyr fucking yokels will ever be.
They should go down to places in Brazil and try to execute the millions of people that they want single handledly.
Most of the people quoted have been coddled their whole fucking life and are the biggest pussies, but they want to take the lives of millions who have known suffering greater than they ever will?
Give me a fucking break.
I wish I could go one on one with every one of these quoted faggots and beat the fuck out of them and carry out their will that they want to push so bad.
They are all spoiled fucks who have been told they are great their whole lives, never known an ounce of pain that normal people live through everyday, yet think they can decide the fate of a species.
Get real you elite fucks.

>> No.11365944

>>11365907
>>11365914
>>11365919
Thanks lads, that sounds pretty bad. Is there any way to avoid it? Like, to slow down/control your immune system for it not to go maximum overdrive and fry you over, and instead let it do the necessary amount of work?

>> No.11365951

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prlK8iY7blk
god series not about diseases though.

>> No.11365953

>>11365922
enjoy when nothing happens and the world continues to be overrun with subhumans

>> No.11365958

>>11365943
that pain and suffering you reference is exactly what needs to be eradicated
also; they're smarter than you

>> No.11365960

>>11365748
jesus christ how long until you retards finally fuck off back to /pol/
every time I open this board I have to hide another 5 IDS HABBENING threads

>> No.11365961

>>11365938
It's too early for us to be sure.

>>11365944
not really. If you have a strong immune system then a cytokine storm will kill you and if you have a weak immune system then the virus itself will.

>> No.11365963

>>11365960
im not from /pol/ you faggot. this is a science issue too retard

>> No.11365964

>>11365961
are there similar infections?

>> No.11365965

>>11365964
H1N1 (aka the swine flu or spanish flu) as well as ebola.

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>>11365925

>> No.11365971

>>11365944
I saw some suggestions, but I can't find the post. i guess I didn't save it. If I can find it again, I will post it here. Hopefully some other people will be able to help with that.

>> No.11365972

>>11365965
>>11365964
almost forgot to mention SARS, which is closely related to this coronavirus

>> No.11365975

>>11365972
>>11365965
so it's the kind of bug that will burn itself out through isolation?

>> No.11365977

>>11365968
>>11365895
>>11365856
>>11365849
>>11365840
>>11365837
>>11365814
>>11365810
>>11365802
>>11365795
>>11365793
>>11365785
please I can't handle all this inspiration
it's making me too optimistic

>> No.11365979

>>11365960
I think everyone is curious about this very scientific even going on in the world right now. I'm sorry it got in the way of your other browsing. I know it can be annoying at times. I hope the rest of your day goes smoother. Cheers!

>> No.11365987

>>11365783
what was the agenda for event 2 oh 1?

>> No.11365997
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>>11365987
Regarding Agenda 21 aka Agenda 2030 aka Vision 2050, here's a pretty accurate explanation of what all the goals of it are: https://humansarefree.com/2015/10/the-un-2030-agenda-decoded-the-blueprint-for-global-enslavement.html

Archived: https://archive.fo/c8mEh

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>>11365867
>>11365925
They really see humans as a cancer (makes one wonder what they see themselves as). Even says cancer on the Georgia stones.

>> No.11366454

>>11365958
meet me irl so i can eradicate you, worm

>> No.11366485

>>11365748
whata is r0?

>> No.11366499

>>11365897
your body goes into shock from its own immune response.

>> No.11366501

>>11365925
>society at the present North American material standard of living would be 1 billion. At the more frugal European standard of living, 2 to 3 billion would be possible
This is sensible.

>> No.11366503

>>11366485
average number of people that each infected person also infects.
r0 is usually around 1.

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>> No.11366517

>>11365963
Oh my mistake >>>/x/

>> No.11366519

>>11366517
This is the big one, first pandemic in a long while.
Collapse of society? No.
Hundreds of thousands of deaths or millions? Likely.
Virus is unconstrained because asymptomatic hosts keep spreading it.

>> No.11366521

>>11365914
>>the media told me that china is telling the truth
>A random schizo told me the truth

>> No.11366526

>>11366519
>Hundreds of thousands of deaths or millions? Likely.
See >>11366517

>> No.11366527

>>11366519
>This is the big one, first pandemic in a long while.
Except for SARS, swine flu, Ebola, bird flu, etc.

>> No.11366532

>>11366521
Do you really trust the media?
Operation Mockingbird comes to mind.

>> No.11366534

>>11366527
Why are you even trying ? You can't reason with /x/ and /pol/ tards. They are fixated on their happening or whatever else it is they imagine is "actually" going on.

>> No.11366535

>>11366532
I definitely trust the media more than random schizos squawking about conspiracy theories with no evidence. You're pretty bad at convincing anyone of anything.

>> No.11366539

>>11366535
I'm not the anon you were replying to.
I'm just offering a critical injection into the reliability of the media.

>> No.11366583

>>11366535
>the media aren't also random schizos squawking
YIKES

>> No.11366618

>>11366539
Without comparison to the reliability of conspiracy theorists on the internet it's a pointless statement.

>>11366583
>>the media aren't also random schizos squawking
Yes.

>> No.11366623

>>11366618
across the entire breadth of the schizos they likely encompass all possible versions of the truth, so the schizos are probably more accurate as a whole but the success rate is low

>> No.11366681

>>11366534
I haven’t posted ITT but I genuinely wish that you were right. I don’t think that you are, but I hope that your optimism is eventually realized

>> No.11367016

>>11366535
You're in total glow mode and don't even know it. You're only damaging your own cause.

>> No.11367023

>>11365916
I was thinking the same, the current growth of the lemmings is unsustainable

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>> No.11367066

>>11365748
knowing how third world shitholes operate and the peculiarities surrounding this, i'm 100% sure this escaped from a lab, and like the genetic editing that happened last year, they probably had human guinea pigs and used it for everything you can imagine.

i don't care about the snopes take on this

>> No.11367070

>>11367046
>World Bankers
Key phrase here

>> No.11367230

When you read old people die, because they have the best immun system you know you are far gone into tinfoil territory. Pretty obviously your immun system is best around 20-35, when you did already have a lot of pathogens and still are in your biological prime. Also the cytokine storm would happen at the first contact with your immune system. Like it was the case with the Spanish flu, basically your body thinks it has to do more than it actually has to do, this explains the deaths being disproportionately at the peak of their physical condition. But if the infection is already known, the body recreates the conditions in, which you once defeated the infection.

>> No.11367264

>>11367230
Basically it boils down to /pol/fags being incapable of actually understanding the difference between ADE and hypersensitivity or how the former doesn't actually work unless 1. There are multiple forms of the virus which doesn't appear to be the case or 2. The virus directly infects phagocytes which also doesn't appear to be the case.

>> No.11367305

>>11365804
based and gandhipilled

>> No.11367617

>>11367070
World Bank representatives at the Event 201 simulated Coronavirus release.

>> No.11368325

>>11365795
>>11365810
>>11365819
>>11365837
>>11365840
>>11365849
>>11365856
>>11365895

First they say we have a "population crisis" in Europe and they need to important millions of africans and muslims every year because there aren't enough people and we need more, now they say there's a "population crisis" because there's too many people and we need less

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Baby's first damp squib doom plague.

>> No.11369127

>>11368325
Importing muslims and africans doesn't raise the population of the earth though

>> No.11369274

>>11369127
If anything it decreases it

>> No.11369305

>>11365783
>Unironically posting an infowars link on /sci/.
You need to go back.

>> No.11369321

>>11365793
He's right.

>> No.11369329

>>11369305
>Unironically using the genetic fallacy on /sci/.
You need to go back.

>> No.11369335

>>11369329
>my source is valid because I said so.
Nice ad verecundiam fallacy

>> No.11369336

>>11365793
as long as i'm part of that 250-300 million, he's right.

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>>11365977
>please I can't handle all this inspiration
>it's making me too optimistic

>> No.11369384

>>11369127
>population of africa falls
>population of Europe increases instead of falls
>Africans compensate by having more children, funded by Western aid
>world population increases

>> No.11369389

>>11365793
As long as I'm not part of that 250-300 million, he's right.

>> No.11370139

>>11369336
>>11369389
>The duality of human beings
>>11365748
Furthermore OP is a retard and everyone else who believes in this should be scheduling an appointment with a psychiatrist for their paranoia and go the fuck back in >>>/x/ because you are brainlets

>> No.11370233

>>11366623
>across the entire breadth of the schizos they likely encompass all possible versions of the truth
Not by a long shot, even if there were ten billions schizos on earth and each had a hundred different versions.

>so the schizos are probably more accurate as a whole but the success rate is low
That's worse than being flat out wrong.

>> No.11370255

>>11365748
Ah, ok. So we're gonna have endless corona virus suffering til we just kill ourselves voluntarily, I see how it is.