/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.11363365]

Speaking strictly in scientific terms, what is the most disturbing fact you know?

[Anonymous No.11363373]

>>11363365
100% of OPs are gay

[Anonymous No.11363374]

>>11363373
this anon knows

[Anonymous No.11363411]

>>11363365
That there was no ventilation and they had wooden doors, and not enough ovens, and the walls aint blue.

[Anonymous No.11363419]

>>11363365
The Answer To P = NP.

[Anonymous No.11363439]

>>11363365
Flags shouldnt wave on a moon without air

[Anonymous No.11363451]

>>11363365
It wasn't actually 6 million.
Also, black-white iq gap is largely genetic.
Related, blacks phds have the iq of an average white guy

[Anonymous No.11363460]

>>11363365
One bullet could have never taken such a trajectory as was claimed for the fatal JFK round, and a person shot from behind will not recoil backward

[Anonymous No.11363468]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stability_of_the_Solar_System

[Anonymous No.11363476]

>>11363411
>>11363419
>>11363439
>>11363451
>>11363460
Not facts, try again.

[Anonymous No.11363478]

>>11363476
Sure they are. Your move.

[Anonymous No.11363481]

>>11363478
See >>11363476

[Anonymous No.11363487]

>>11363481
Refer to >>11363478

[Anonymous No.11363495]

>>11363365
>the most disturbing fact you know?
The ultimate consequence of Gödel's incompleteness theorems is that you can't prove you know anything. I find this to be extremely disturbing.

[Anonymous No.11363501]

>>11363439
>What’s kinetic energy
>What is wire in the flag

[Anonymous No.11363507]

>>11363501
>kinetic energy
Yeah we're talking about a physical thing waving around, retard, glad you could join us. Get this: no air, no breeze, no kinetic medium for waving

[Anonymous No.11363582]

>>11363495
I can prove that I exist.

[Anonymous No.11363596]

>>11363507
How do they work?

[Anonymous No.11363615]

>>11363582
all you can prove is that you think you have reason to believe you exist

[Anonymous No.11363630]

>>11363596
I cant do much with you, you dont get the concept of "waving" in "breeze" as opposed to shaking a stick so you arent really wualified for this conversation

[Anonymous No.11363633]

>>11363630
https://youtu.be/wd6ekSYpt9w
Weird how it sways back and forth just like a swing hey faggot?

[Anonymous No.11363640]

>>11363495
>The ultimate consequence of Gödel's incompleteness theorems is that you can't prove you know anything. I find this to be extremely disturbing.
>anything
Can you explain how? I don't readily see it. I believe his first thm shows that there always must exist at least one thm within the system of arithmetic that you cannot prove, not that you cannot prove anything. There are a lot thms that you can prove, and I presume that the thms you can prove are something that you know. Or maybe you are thinking of the second thm which says that no system of arithmetic can prove it's own consistency, thus making it impossible to prove that any of the thms you have derived actually are true? In that case, I do see what you mean.

[Anonymous No.11363646]

>>11363633
Its clear from your anger (see insults) that youre thoroughly shook. Makes sense in a thread for disturbing facts. I trust the readers not to miss this fact.

[Anonymous No.11363653]

One of the most disturbing facts of life is that there are people out there who are capable of committing the most heinous acts imaginable, and you may pass them by everday without ever realising it.

[Anonymous No.11363656]

>>11363646
>believing there are intelligent people who are on the fence regarding the moon landings legitimacy
Retarded

[Anonymous No.11363658]

>>11363656
Ah you think of truth as a property determined by "intelligent" people's faith.
I trust the reader will note this fact as well

[Anonymous No.11363668]

>>11363653
Those cartel beheading, gutting, delimbing videos are brutal. They are all on drugs while doing that shit. No normal human being would do such torture to another human being if they were not on some drugs which invoke demonic possesion.

Everyone around the world did exections extremely swift. Shot to head, one slice of sword and head fall off, hell even beheading takes like 3 seconds and then you pass out due the blood pressure loss.

[Anonymous No.11363673]

>>11363668
No, torture-killing is as old as records. Nothing novel in cruelty today.

[Anonymous No.11363695]

>>11363640
Yes, you cannot prove a system is consistent within itself, and it's turtles all the way down. No matter what, your foundation is made of unprovable axioms. This opens the door to relative truth and alternative truth. I learned this about a decade ago, and to this day it's left me feeling a little unmoored from the reality I perceive. It was also the day I realized philosophy has legitimate merit as a field of study.

[Anonymous No.11363748]

>>11363695
>No matter what, your foundation is made of unprovable axioms. This opens the door to relative truth and alternative truth.
Can you explain what you mean by that? Do you mean that the mathematical truth is dependent on which axioms that we choose, thus relative to the axioms, and that we can get an alternative truth by changing the axioms? And because of second incompleteness thm these truths within axiomatic system would not even be meta-true within the system. Could one go on with this s.t. there are infinitely many layers of truth nested inside each other?
>I learned this about a decade ago, and to this day it's left me feeling a little unmoored from the reality I perceive.
While Gödels results are metamathematical, mathematics seem to be extremely useful way to deal with reality, i.e. it seems be able to model reality quite well. In fact, our society has become dependent it. The possibility that worms are hiding the results we depend on is legitimately disturbing! That said, I don't readily see how Gödel's results generalize to reality itself, because I am not relevantly set on how I want to relate mathematics to reality. I am set on that mathematics is metaphysical, and that metaphysical models can align with reality to various degrees. I am also sorta set on that the many parts of metaphysical emerge from, or at least quite influenced by the physical. I am agnostic on if there are parts of platonic realm that can exist independent of the physical.

[Anonymous No.11363959]

>>11363365
I just calculated that if we don't find vaccine for coronavirus, then the modern civilization will end in less then 21 years.

But if the Chinese government was lieing about the rate of coronavirus infections (they always lie), then the modern civilization will end lot sooner.

[Anonymous No.11363999]

>>11363668
>Everyone around the world did exections extremely swift.
Nigga what world are you from?

[Anonymous No.11364080]

>>11363495
Nope, it gives me hope that studying mathematics will take time to be replaced by AI, since you can't make a program that proves logical statements

[Anonymous No.11364123]

>>11363959
>end
Cutting the global pop by 30% will just be a cultural curiosity after 5 years. If they're lying and the death rate is more like 60%, then the event will be burned into our cultural memory and we'll mope around for a while over it, but in the end such a steep reduction in population will mitigate the upcoming WWIII and will significantly reduce pollution.

[Anonymous No.11364179]

>>11363695
>>11363495
Peak brainlet

[Anonymous No.11364203]

>>11364179
Ah yes, ad hominem, the ultimate truth Gödel didn't even consider.

[Anonymous No.11364208]

>>11363365
~le false vacuum

[Anonymous No.11364226]

>>11363658
You cherry-picked parts of his response.
>>>What is wire in the flag
Answer that

[Anonymous No.11365818]

>>11363365
That the global economy is a complete fiction with no real foundation.

[Anonymous No.11365833]

>>11364123
How fucking great would it be if the virus coincidentally wiped out the third world?

[Anonymous No.11365871]

>>11365833
>How fucking great would it be if the virus coincidentally wiped out the third world?
Probably not that great on the economic front. First World countries give a lot of financial aid to Third World countries, projecting on paper that this money will create much greater revenue in the future. This future revenue is counted immediately as revenue on the books of First World countries, thus helping First World countries claim they have more money than they actually do, and this allows them to pay the interest on their national debts.

With less people in the Third World, there's less people to loan money to that can generate future revenue on the First Worlders balance sheets. Suddenly, automatic increases in debt payments kick-in, and with even fewer people in the global economy, there's even fewer goods and services that can be sold or generated to make up for the sudden loss of demand. Total collapse.

[Anonymous No.11365875]

>>11365871
>but anon! if there's no more poor third worlders we'll have to give up our speculative foreign aid nonsense!

[Anonymous No.11365952]

>>11365875
It would be really great to stop all the "creative bookkeeping", and it's true, I think, that the only thing that's ever going to make that happen is some sudden crash like a deadly pandemic, but I don't think anything will be the same after that. Global supply lines will begin shutting down, food will begin shutting down, medical supplies will begin shutting down -- because the global economy as we know it will have crashed at that point.

I hope that whatever survives will be the wiser for the experience in its future incarnation, but I have no idea. I'm just a little person adrift.

[Anonymous No.11365966]

>>11363365
that I continue to post here.

[Anonymous No.11365970]

>>11363460
>a person shot from behind will not recoil backward
https://youtu.be/yzyw7AcHbuY
>"Second gunman" my aching ass.

[Anonymous No.11365991]

>>11363658
Not him, but:
Do you think it's waging in the breeze because the moon landing was faked, the scene was shot on a sound-stage, and the director brought in a fucking FAN to make it flap in the wind?????

[Anonymous No.11365999]

>>11363959
>if we don't find vaccine for coronavirus, then the modern civilization will end in less then 21 years
Modern civilization seems to be on an inexorable path to autocracy, and I don't see 3-5 autocrats sharing the world.
I honestly worry we're just decades away from a world war with casualties in the billions.
Corona might be a godsend.

[Anonymous No.11366006]

>>11363365
>in scientific terms, what is the most disturbing fact you know?
Science will continue to create technologies that put more and more destructive power into the hands of random individuals tinkering n their garages.
What happens when that weird kid down the block can make an atom bomb, or that incel methhead across the street can make a custom virus that only kills brown people?

[Anonymous No.11366007]

>>11365999
This. For instance the survivors of the black plague found themselves in a rapidly empty world where they were free to pursue arts, humanities, science, ect. The enlightenment was sparked not long after.

[Anonymous No.11366009]

>>11365999
>random rambling
>hoax may be godsend
Did witness, though.

OP: Human population and growth trajectory isn't like any other animal (wave goes up and down), it is although common with bacteria and virus (slow build-up, fast increase till breaking point and sudden drop).

[Anonymous No.11366010]

>>11363365
50% of American’s are dumber than the average American

[Anonymous No.11366024]

>>11366009
>>random rambling
XI and Putin are both consolidating power and setting themselves up to be in office for life.

[Anonymous No.11366029]

>>11366024
And trump

[Anonymous No.11366030]

>>11363653
You're close. "Those people" are the vast majority given the right circumstances is what makes it disturbing. There are undoubtedly people you know and like, maybe even love, that would push a button to resign you to the most torturous death imagineable and wouldn't even skip a beat making the decision for the right incentives and assurance of not getting caught
>everybodys got a price