Someone beat us to it

[Anonymous No.1136299]

There are lots of strange structures all across the solar system. Was mankind really the first species to visit them all?

Or millions of years ago did someone else live there and built monuments before they left?

What are your thoughts?

Are we alone in the universe?

Are we the very first space-faring civilization in the history of all time?

[Anonymous No.1136313]

We are very nearly certainly the first space-faring from our solar system, and almost certainly in all nearby systems, and I would say about 75:75 in this galaxy (not first:first). But almost 0% chance we're only ones in the universe.

[Anonymous No.1136308]

>There are lots of strange structures all across the solar system.
Not really.
>There are lots of strange structures all across the solar system.
We haven't yet.
>Are we alone in the universe?
Probably not.
>Are we the very first space-faring civilization in the history of all time?
Of all time and space? Unlikely.

[Anonymous No.1136369]

Humanity is the precursors.

What do we do with the uppity primitives?

[Anonymous No.1136373]

It took us less than 100k years from walking upright to shooting people into space, and really we're not space faring, more like low earth orbit faring if at all. 100k years is a drop in the buck of the billions of years the universe has been around. 100k in 1G is .01%, and since we're in the billions of years old universe its like .001% of all time. And reallllllly as a society we're fairly stupid, 2/3rds of America doesn't believe in natural or non-guided evolution and the world in general is never at peace 100%. Just imagine a species that doesn't bicker with itself, and accepts logic of irrational fear, they'd get to space like 5 minutes after the figured out fire.

[Anonymous No.1136391]

>>1136373
But more than 3 billion years to get more than 1 cell. And once a species has intelligence technology will generally advance very fast, but first intelligence is required, which took a long time (about 1.5billion years).

[Anonymous No.1136395]

>>1136308
There's no evidence of structures elsewhere?

WHO BUILT THE MOON CASTLE ON THE DARK SIDE THEN?

:o

look shocked

[Anonymous No.1136400]

>>1136373
But a species becomes dominant through fighting and violence, and a peaceful species has less evolutionary pressure to develop intelligence. I predict all intelligent species we will find will be violent, to itself and us.

[Anonymous No.1136418]

I just suppose these 5 sided pyramids and giant face are all just natural rock formations?

[Anonymous No.1136425]

>>1136418
Yep.

[Anonymous No.1136434]

Oh god oh god oh god oh god...Hubble took a picture of HEAVEN!

[Anonymous No.1136435]

>>1136373

Taking into account what this /sci/entist said.

We have been around for 100k, so there are planets closer to the center of the universe that we're created billions of years before we were even beginning to exist.

I generally accept that most intelligent /sci/entists admit life in the universe as an inevitable fact so.

Taking both of those into account, there is a species in this universe that is so ancient we can not begin to wrap our heads around their level of technology, or history for that matter.

A race billions of years old, to our 100k.

Look back 100 years, at our technology. Now think forward 100 years.

Now think forward 1 billion years...

[Anonymous No.1136437]

>>1136418
The martian face and pyramids were proven false. It's just a trick of light.

[Anonymous No.1136450]

>>1136435
That's assuming technology will always exponentially increase. There's a possibility that after a certain amount of advancements you hit a plateau.

[Anonymous No.1136452]

>>1136435

[Anonymous No.1136473]

>>1136437
Oh and go back to sleep people, there's no radio station in the Saturn System obviously

[Anonymous No.1136477]

>>1136373
But Machiavellian intelligence supposedly encouraged intelligence growth, with contentment and world peace nobody would have bothered to strive to succeed

[Anonymous No.1136482]

>>1136391
but it was a probability! a one in whatever large number chance, it could've occurred just hours into the conditions being right, or at the other end 10 billion years! Just imagine if life began 3.4 billion years before it did o__0
>>1136400
Right right, but what if there was system with two planets, both with intelligent life competing...we mastered the oceans pretty fast because it was economic to trading and making war...they'd have to get interplanetary travel to fuck each other up.
>>1136435
just can't even

[Anonymous No.1136488]

>>1136477
but man vs nature, their is always a conflict

[Anonymous No.1136491]

>>1136400
That's bullshit. If life exists on other planets, who's to say that the laws are different? Maybe there are no carnivores, only scavengers.

Besides, the chance of intelligence developing is so slim, in addition to the chance life can exist. It was only by the merest chance we rose to sentience; if there were no asteroid, there would be no us.

[Anonymous No.1136500]

>>1136482
>>1136482

Just can't even... what

[Anonymous No.1136509]

>>1136500
contemplate cumulative technology of a billion years.

they'd laugh at us for still not being able to sustain fusion

[Anonymous No.1136514]

>>1136491
But you can't say there wouldn't be others.

If you do say so, you're full of shit.

Anyone saying, without any proof, that there's no intelligent life or that life must be rare, is a generalizing idiot.

[Anonymous No.1136526]

>>1136488
Neanderthals could kill and hunt animals, it's only when neanderthals were attacked by other neanderthals that meant they had to be smarter/more developed than the other neanderthals

[Anonymous No.1136535]

>>1136509
>>1136509

Yes.

It is quite possibly the most mind-blowing thing a person can attempt to ponder.

[Anonymous No.1136551]

>>1136514
So, I'm full of shit for saying the chances are astronomically slim for life to evolve into sentience, but you're sensible for saying there is life in the universe? BOTH without any proof?

[Anonymous No.1136555]

>>1136526
>>1136526

Actually, there were two types of humans alive on Earth at the same time.

One was the more intelligent and they were the ones who survived. Neanderthals died out

[Anonymous No.1136552]

>>1136526
man vs nature, and man vs man needn't not come to physical violence though. its not conducive to either party getting ahead, work together succeed, moar profits. Maybe initially there would be intraspecies fighting, but we all know better now. All the money in the iraq war was put towards getting people to Mars. We'd get there pretty quick, not to mention the intellectual resources Raytheon and Lockheed put toward weapons design, that could be allocated to space travel.

[Anonymous No.1136561]

>>1136551
>>1136551

Probability is on our side.

By the hundreds of trillions.

[Anonymous No.1136577]

>>1136561
Says who? The fact that there are trillions of planets doesn't attest to the fact that we only know one that currently supports life. The only planets we know of on other systems are pretty much gas giants, and, even if those have a chance to support life of some sort, I doubt intelligence.

My argument isn't on whether or not amino acids can string themselves together on other planets, it's that there would probably be no intelligence.

[Anonymous No.1136590]

>>1136577
>>1136577

Just because we say there is life, doesn't mean we say its sentient.

But if there is a nearly endless amount of planets, there is life.

And if there is life, there is intelligent/sentient life somewhere.

[Anonymous No.1136601]

>>1136577
well look at it this way
if we find ONE example of life on any planet or moon outside of our own, out of the billions and billions of planets you're wrong. And consequently you'd have to check every planet just to make sure you're right, because you're saying life isn't anywhere else. Just one in a billions trillions, and we're right.

[Anonymous No.1136604]

I think we should send a probe to Gliesce 581c, its our closest neighbor where water is liquid on the surface!

It's 27.3ly away. If we could send a probe at near relativistic speeds it would take 30 eyars to get there and 30 year s for the signal to get back, if we could launch it today we might know if there's extrasolar life by the time we are all very old men and women.

[Anonymous No.1136630]

>>1136604
>If we could send a probe at near relativistic speeds
D'uh.

[Anonymous No.1136634]

>>1136590
No! See, my argument is on that very point! You see things through a sentient-centric view. Just because there's life doesn't mean intelligence. Think about it. For most of a planet's life, we've gotten by with just single celled life. Even after, dinosaurs ruled, and might was right. Then, by a cosmic do-over, we're here.

Take another view. A star's habitable lifespan is, on a good day, approximately 8-9 billion years. Then it starts to change. Take into account binary star systems, which make up most stars, and cosmic accidents.

[Anonymous No.1136652]

>>1136634
>>1136634

Ok. I understand.

Now think about the birthing process of seaturtles.

They lay tons and tons of eggs.

When those eggs hatch, the turtles crawl to the ocean. Some are eaten by seagulls, some get lost, some are eaten by some other form of animal, some are incompetent and dont last long.

BUT.

Some make it. The turtles lay tons and tons of eggs, because many will be lost. Many, but not all.

Some make it.

Understand?

[Anonymous No.1136683]

>>1136652
That's a good analogy for the chances of life, but not intelligence. You assume intelligence is the peak of evolution, and it isn't. Again, I site dinosaurs as an example.

[Anonymous No.1136703]

>>1136683
>>1136683

No intelligence is not the peak of existence. Its merely an evolutionary trait to survive.

In terms of evolution, insects beat us hands down.

Our intelligence was just a trait for us to survive.

[Anonymous No.1136710]

>>1136552

That is a very naive viewpoint to take.

[Anonymous No.1136719]

>>1136683
>site

[Anonymous No.1136725]

>>1136719
u mad

[Anonymous No.1136737]

>>1136703
I'm just saying that the chances of intelligence evolving to a space faring race in the time they are allotted are practically non-existent. I know intelligence could exist, and it might, but with all other factors considered, there is hardly a chance. Consider, even, that we may never achieve space travel on an important level. Political pressures, global catastrophes and economic and technological limitations make it seem impossible for our civilization to, figuratively, tie it's shoelaces.

[Anonymous No.1136738]

Elements and early conditions on planets MUST be the same throughout the universe because mostly shit happens the same way everywhere. Is it not plausible then to assume that life (with variations due to evolution of course) is pretty much similar everywhere?

Goldilocks planets alone must number in millions throughout our celestial neighbourhood alone.

Thus I propose that we cannot be the only sentient race out there, nor even something rare.

As for interstellar travel, I will remain sceptical of this, since physics put huge limitations on it.

[Anonymous No.1136747]

>>1136418

Ethereals dwell there, along with their Sectoid servants, all worshipping a huge, aggressive brain to which a heavy plasma bolt should be applied without delay.

[Anonymous No.1136751]

We got to build a gas station on Jupiter first before we can implement extrasolar travel. How else will our ships refuel for the final launch to Gliese, Alpha, Proxima, Barnards, Formalhaut and Ross?

[Anonymous No.1136756]

>There are lots of strange structures all across the solar system.

[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.1136762]

>>1136738
>Goldilocks planets alone must number in millions throughout our celestial neighbourhood alone.

[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.1136798]

>>1136552
But that wouldn't happen, if it did some sandniggers would get nukes, nukes the world whilst everyone else was developing space tech, then we would become a violent species again. A perfect society doesn't function with a human-like species.

[Anonymous No.1136808]

>>1136762
We have found 500 planets, ~5 of which are like giant-earths in goldylocks zone. And we can mainly detect giant planets close to suns (ie, gas giants out of goldylocks zone) at the moment, so it is alone quite amazing we have managed to find those ~5 planets, and there are most likely far more.

[Anonymous No.1136950]

>>1136373

Logic alone won't take you that far. The Greeks for example were highly forward and logical thinking but never really surpassed the Chinese in terms of technological advancement during the same timeframe.

What leads to scientific exploration is empricism, which advanced European way of life during the Enlightenment.

[Anonymous No.1136976]

>>1136950

The greeks were too busy fucking each other in the ass

[Anonymous No.1136987]

more deep space probing required.

better listening of the skies

[Anonymous No.1137078]

>>1136976

Which is why I find beings that have the technological capability to travel interstellar distance very rare unlikely. I reckon that it would have to be through sheer luck and through the right conditions that a group of intelligent species manage to pull off a society that favors empirical deduction.

Furthermore, intelligent and sentient life itself is also rare. Then there's the problem of other hostile races potentially wiping out competition in the universe. The chances that we'll ever find intelligent spacefaring life somewhere is slim to none.

[Anonymous No.1137203]

An echo from the recent thread on Phobos?

Yes the Solar system is seriously weird, and the people who didn't notice that should pay more attention.

BUT
there are not enough "striking" oddities to believe that this was the labor of another species similar to our own. It could be instead unknown phenomenas occurring in the past, yet to be discovered and unrelated to life.