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So, just how harmful is prolonged social isolation and lack of sex? Asking for a friend

>> No.11360748

>>11360742
shields you from corona, stds, cooties and cooters.

>> No.11360756

so long as you don't isolate any research from us, should you choose to pursue it

>> No.11360760
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>>11360742
I rarely go outside anymore, I have become like those Japanese NEETs where their mom does everything for them.

I just became indifferent about the world and life, I don't even vote because I don't care about humanities future and prosperity.

I don't even consider myself a part of human society, I barely interact with anyone, I feel different than all other humans I consider myself separate...

>> No.11360811

>>11360760
And you're not gonna feel like shit on your deathbed?

>> No.11360827
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>>11360811
I probably will feel horrible in my last moments, but it isn’t my choice to be the way I am now, the disease has changed me and made me indifferent to the world.

I am powerless to overcome the accumulated damage to my brain, there is no medication I have found which can improve my cognitive symptoms.

>> No.11360841

>>11360827
What disease? Have you tried throwing away your coomputer? Go on a detox, then try to find something to do in your new free time

>> No.11360846

>>11360742
I went my entire 20s like this. Very dark fucked up times. I'm lucky to be alive and not in prison. Around 30 things flipped so fast. Now I'm 32, married, baby on the way, $110k career, buying a house, fit, healthy, happy.

>> No.11360847

>>11360827
Nothing like doing some adrenaline activies like rock climbing or bungee jumping to make you rethink your life a little. Good jump start

>> No.11360849

>>11360742
You might accidentslly write a classic work of physics or biology or philosophy as a possible upside, for cost of known downside, no pussy (thats it). Easy bet under conditions of uncertainty. Fuck socializing

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>>11360849
>write a classic work
Probably not. It seems all of the low hanging fruit have been picked. Competition is more fierce than ever, and I have a troublesome hypothesis that humans simply aren't smart enough to keep progressing in terms of science, that we have reached the limit of what we can understand, sort of like how a fish cannot understand the world beyond the pond

>> No.11360981

>>11360742
I wish for a quick death every night, but other than that it's alright.

>> No.11360997

Sex doesn't matter. Social isolation is not healthy, gives you heart problems and depression.

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>>11360846
good job.

>> No.11361009

>>11360846
how old is ur wife

>> No.11361016

>>11360997
forcing yourself into social interactions is low iq, though.
taking any form of psychoactive stuff to be able to socially interact with people is beyond retarded please kill yourself tier.

obviously having social interactions is better than being a hermit, but some minds need prolonged solitude.

>> No.11361019 [DELETED] 

>>11360742
There should be a license required for parenting so people stop making autistic incels who don’t know how to talk to McDonald’s workers because they didn’t make them play outside enough

>> No.11361020

>>11361016

>forcing yourself into social interactions is low iq, though.

Not really. Many people find socialising uncomfortable you gotta do it anyway until it gets easy. Quite similar to learning math. It's bullshit but if you struggle enough it gets easier.

>> No.11361021 [DELETED] 

>>11361016
> but some minds need prolonged solitude.

Nope. That’s just autists who should be aborted anyway

>> No.11361026

>>11360756
how r u going to no dat
may b im retarded

>> No.11361033 [DELETED] 

>>11361019
looow iq

>> No.11361034

>>11360852
To cope with incresing complexity, humanity always offloaded cognition to tools. Writing, symbolic manipulation, computers. Maybe a new one will come.

>> No.11361039

>>11361019
>>11361020
>>11361021
wow. the triumvirate of low iq.

>> No.11361041

>>11361019
I completely agree. In fact, reproduction should require a hefty license. Letting anyone make kids is a mistake

t. autist who doesn't know how to talk to McDonald's workers because parents didn't make nor really let me play outside enough

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>>11361020
>if you don't like doing this thing that a lot of humans like to do, you need to force yourself until you like it too.

>> No.11361047

>>11361041
no. you're just not meant to fucking talk to mcdonalds workers at this point of your life, but you're a low iq sheep and let retards tell you it's becaue your parents didn't force you to play outside.

if you have social anxiety when interacting with people, it's because you have issues inside that won't be resolved by interacting with people, only by descending deep into your own mind.

>> No.11361061 [DELETED] 

>>11361041
a lot of great minds came to this planet from shitty parents. jobs was given up for adoption. bezos' parents divorced before he was born. i'm not gonna look it up, great people coming from #1 parents that you'd have said beforehand YEAH THESE PEOPLE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO REPRODUCE is actually not that common. we have no idea what really would make someone a more fit parent and even less what makes it OKAY for 2 people to reproduce. it's something that absolutely must be left for nature, perhaps because it's too complex for us to fully understand, perhaps for some other reason even harder to realize

>> No.11361067

>>11361041
a lot of great minds came to this planet from shitty parents. jobs was given up for adoption. bezos' parents divorced before he was born. i'm not gonna look it up, great people coming from #1 parents that you'd have said beforehand YEAH THESE PEOPLE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO REPRODUCE is actually not that common. we actually have little idea what really would make someone a better parent, or how kids are best raised and even much less what makes it OKAY for 2 people to reproduce. it's something that absolutely must be left for nature, perhaps because it's too complex for us to fully understand, perhaps for some other reason even harder to realize

>> No.11361070

>>11361047
>he thinks iq means anything
>uses "sheep" as an insult

>> No.11361071

>>11361070
i just use iq for intelligence, not based on how many numbers you can memorize in a sequence that some iq tests measure it by.
but you're too low iq to understand.

>> No.11361073

>>11361067
Ok, you changed my mind. Still, a lot of shitty parents make shitty offspring, and the shitty offspring likely outnumber the great minds born from shitty parents. But I guess it's worth it

>> No.11361079

>>11361071
What difference does my iq make to you and why do you keep bringing it up? Oh yeah, because you are an insecure faggot who needs to belittle others to feel better. Into the trash you go

>> No.11361083

>>11361079
yeah, sure. i'm the insecure one out of the two of us.

>> No.11361089

>>11360846
What industry

>> No.11361093

>>11361083
Yup, those who belittle others for no reason are insecure and suffer from low esteem. You are trash

>> No.11361096

>>11361093
for the record, i don't consider the majority of iq tests to have any validity. and don't hold the rest to high regards either.

and i litreally just use low iq as a synonym for retarded, which, on 4chan, usually just means "i disagree with you"

>> No.11361100

>>11361083
why are you even on /sci, larper?

>> No.11361102

>>11361100
because i'm a genius (unironically), and /sci/ is the 2nd highest iq board, after /biz/

>> No.11361103

>>11361096
>you're too low iq to understand = I disagree with you
The math checks out

>> No.11361107

>>11361103
>what is usually

>> No.11361108

>>11361102
A few more posts and you will qualify for down syndrome disabilitybux

>> No.11361110

>>11361108
it's okay. the truth sometimes hurts even the best of us.

>> No.11361115

>>11361110
What truth? That you are a low self esteem loser?

>> No.11361123

>>11361016
>forcing yourself into social interactions is low iq
Your IQ is low if going through interaction is challenging for you in the first place.

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>>11360827
>Marry, and you will regret it; don’t marry, you will also regret it; marry or don’t marry, you will regret it either way. Laugh at the world’s foolishness, you will regret it; weep over it, you will regret that too; laugh at the world’s foolishness or weep over it, you will regret both. Believe a woman, you will regret it; believe her not, you will also regret it… Hang yourself, you will regret it; do not hang yourself, and you will regret that too; hang yourself or don’t hang yourself, you’ll regret it either way; whether you hang yourself or do not hang yourself, you will regret both. This, gentlemen, is the essence of all philosophy

>> No.11361326

>>11361175
>Hang yourself, you will regret it
bullshit.

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>>11360760
Fuck anon. I feel the same way. I dont feel like I'm part of this world. Maybe I never have. It feels almost like I'm a spectator, my actions dont have effect, and I'm constantly pushing a wall that won't budge. I dont want to be melodramatic but it seems as if the world left me behind sometimes and all I could do is watch as time goes on without me.

>> No.11361465

>>11360846
How'd you do it

>> No.11361471

>>11360742
Works just like in the movie you posted

>> No.11361477

>>11360846
this >>11361009

>> No.11361478

>>11361342
Pic incoherent with text makes pic coherent with text and pic together.

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if there is an effect it is hard to view in retrospect
t. lost all *friends* (they are not as emotionally capable as me) 5 years ago at minimum.

maybe I cope well, maybe I stick mathematical probably exactly in the sore spots and I never notice my childlike hopes and dreams disappear. Maybe I do. Maybe it doesn't matter anymore because I'm nearly thirty and the truth is my parents didn't want me to dream, they wanted me to stop getting my ass beat by my father, but he enjoyed it so there's no getting past that. I accept my fate and I think in this lifetime that's healthy. I only hope that whatever force is God sees me as my strings of fate and the drive of my next life is the antithesis of all of this.

My spine was damaged by my dad and its not the lack of sex which hurts as much as this worlds indifference to anything besides that. Having witnessed it, it is indeed the end of all natural things.

>> No.11361696 [DELETED] 

>>11361326
Can’t regret shit if you’re dead

>> No.11361700

>>11361044

I mean you don't really have to, you don't have to do anything, but it's gonna affect you negatively if you don't.

>> No.11361701 [DELETED] 

>>11361067
>a lot of great minds came to this planet from shitty parents

Arbitrary assertion that can’t be verified.

> we actually have little idea what really would make someone a better parent

Wrong.

Why do you want there to be more worthless cretins in the world incapable of basic behaviors like socialization?

>> No.11361706 [DELETED] 

>>11361047
>if you have social anxiety when interacting with people, it's because you have issues inside that won't be resolved by interacting with people, only by descending deep into your own mind.

That’s what caused it in the first place, dumbass. Bad social skills are caused by insufficient socialization. “Oh no I’m a shut in who doesn’t even know how to talk to people guess I’ll shut myself in more and waste time thinking while doing nothing”

Great way to die at 55 never being employed.

>> No.11361709

>>11360742
Its not bad, its especially useful if one wants to reflect.

>> No.11361856

>>11361021
People aren't born autistic. It's a second and third trimester toxic developmental disruption later activated by vaccination.

No vaccines? No autism. Period. Get over it. We'd return to the days of Newton etc like autism, which is absolutely nothing like what we're calling autism today.

>> No.11361863

>>11361326
>>11361696
You can regret while dying

>> No.11361883

>>11361690
>I don't have friends because I'm better than them
This is the most classic, immature teen defense mechanism there is. Whether it's because you're "intellectually superior," or because you're not a "degenerate," there is no more typical an excuse than the superiority complex. Sad to think you're still so emotionally undeveloped and you're almost 30. The worst irony is that you are so undeveloped, yet you think your superiority comes from being emotionally capable.

You my friend, are in a rut you'll never fix yourself. You definitely need someone to help bring you some perspective.

>> No.11361952

>>11361690
Dude you say you're more emotionally developed than the friends you lost and are still thinking about 5 years ago, and you bring up parental trauma that you haven't dealt with, as well as pessimism about the entire world. All in the same little post. You're are a complete wreck, go get professional help.

>> No.11361954 [DELETED] 

>>11361856
> It's a second and third trimester toxic developmental disruption later activated by vaccination.

Cringed and hidden.

>> No.11361965

mom left the house 5 days ago and I'm already going INSANE

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>>11361883
>nobody can be better than the npc masses

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>>11361696

If only you knew how bad things really are.

>> No.11362077

This thread got completely derailed, does anyone have an actual answer

>> No.11362151

i dont see or speak to anyone for weeks at a time, i wouldn't want to be a bother.

>> No.11362165

>>11362042
You aren't better.

>> No.11362173

>>11361690
Goddamn you are a pussy

>> No.11362186

>>11362042
>takes imageboard memes seriously
>thinks he's better than anyone
>doesn't really know anyone cause he likes to stay lonely and imagine he is superior

>>/r9k/
>>/pol/

>> No.11362189

sounds like your friend is a fucking incel

>> No.11362190

>>11362077

question has been answered. You don't need to have sex but you do need to talk to people and belong to some sort of group.
Not doing this is very harmful. Social isolation will literally kill you.

>> No.11362203

>>11361700
[citation needed]

>> No.11362207

>>11362203

There's been research on this topic. Isolation is dangerous.

If you care about your health go look it up, if not then I couldn't care less. I'm not spending time on winning an internet argument, it's your life do whatever you want.

>> No.11362213

>>11362190
low iq answer

>>11361016
high iq answer


accept solitude as long as it feels natural. you'll eventually crave some form of social interaction and will naturalyy be good at and enjoy talking to people

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>>11360852
>It seems all of the low hanging fruit have been picked.
It always seems like that. In reality the world changes and so do our perspectives, bringing new fruit within our reach.
So hang on in there, anons, don't give up.

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11362228

It's called skin hunger and it's as Lovecraftian as it sounds.
Contact comfort as physical human touch is physiologically necessary as food sleep and shelter.
Pic related was an experiment where monkey would choose connection over sustenance.

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>>11362190
>>11362190
>decided to become social and outgoing person
>started to hang with people from my job
>they are boring and do nothing together except drinking and laughing to sex jokes
>tried to meet people trough sport activity, same dumb conversations but now with balls flying around instead of beer glass
>tried visiting job related workshops to find people passionate about something, found out they just want to go drink and talk sex jokes afterwards
>found a gf, she was only into sex, obsessed with social media also somehow felt all the time that she was constantly looking after someone with higher status/value than me, (btich also gave me fucking std at the beginning!)

that was most anxious, stressful, painful part of my life anon, how could it be more healthy for me and my body? Now I just go to work, "socialize" there, run/swim/gym for better sleep then go home and read math books and browse - and that's it, I keep getting those thoughts about happy life with family and kids but can't imagine it happening in real world with real people. Statistics confirm it too - it would probably end in ugly divorce, losing financial security, losing children and them ending up pity or hate me.

>> No.11362256

>>11362235
You know you can go out into the world looking for specific types of people, right?
You're just angry at yourself, not those people. I would alsobet with an open mind, or at least without a failure's mindset, you would notice more positive things about interactions rather than only the most negative.

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>>11360852
>we have reached the limit of what we can understand

>> No.11362276

>>11362256
So it's his fault that that he can't fit in withmost people, who are NPC morons

>> No.11362279 [DELETED] 

>>11362058
Delusional schizo. Things are great.

>> No.11362283

>>11362274
Meme doesn't apply. We are not making breakthroughs anymore like we did before. Our models are incomplete yet we can't finish them

>> No.11362284 [DELETED] 

>>11362190
You need to have sex.

>> No.11362288 [DELETED] 

>>11362235
>Mentally ill defective retard can’t perform basic functions like making friends
>Blames everyone else

CRINGE
You should have been aborted.

>> No.11362295 [DELETED] 

>>11362276
>who are NPC morons

Cope. You’re mentally ill and will die alone.

>> No.11362297

>>11362276
I don't agree that most people are "NPC morons". I don't think it's his "fault", but ones mindset plays a large role. I am suggesting a new process to try again with, and that his emotions (it was the most anxious, stressful, painful part of his life) reveals the foothills of what may be a huge mountain of self-discovery shrouded yet in clouds.

>> No.11362311

>>11362284

In periods I have plenty of sex, other periods I don¨'t. It really doesn't matter either way.

>> No.11362312 [DELETED] 

>>11362311
It matters a lot.

>> No.11362328

>>11362297
>reveals the foothills of what may be a huge mountain of self-discovery shrouded yet in clouds.
avpd, diagnosed in high-school

>> No.11362345

>>11362328
Oh you are? There must certainly be steps you can plan to grow into comfort with people. Personally, I've been able to change many aspects of my personality.

>> No.11362348

>>11360811
>>11360827
Why not just do heroin or something right before you die?

>> No.11362354

>>11362312

It doesn't. It's in your head.

>> No.11362364

>>11362345
How

>> No.11362404

>>11360827

have you tried talking to people? going outside? see the sun? eat some broccoli?

>> No.11362409

>>11362364
So first off I would recommend meditation, which as a byeffect will strengthen your ability to self-analyze without rationalizing excuses. This will cause quicker growth, since you can learn faster from the same amount of social exposure.

In regards to steps, I don't know where you are at. You can set a goal at the scale of uttering a word to a cashier, or on to other end going to the most high-status club in your area and for five hours trying to seduce women. Rinse repeat, in my excel plan for studies, career etc, I also plan social growth this way. I have a monthly goal, a weekly goal, and a daily habit to get me there.

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>>11360742
Social isolation without a specific purpose is bad, you should have at least one or two friends to hang with.

Lack of sex is actually a cultural problem, you are induced to think that you need sex. Indigenous people don't have recreational sex but only use it for procreation since it is a huge waste of energy and time.

>> No.11362578

>>11362288
>browsing 4chan
>browsing this thread
I have some bad news for you

>> No.11362580

>>11362283
low iq

>> No.11362587

>>11360846
so to answer OPs question, very bad
we are all social creatures and need interaction
unfortunately nothing is measured by what it needs

>> No.11362627

>>11362288
>Mentally ill defective
I'm fully functional
>can’t perform basic functions like making friends
I can make friends
>Blames everyone else
I blame nobody except bitches giving people stds

>> No.11362697

>>11362627
>"I'm fully functional"
>can't perform basic socialization functions
>"I blame nobody except bitches giving people stds"
>misses blaming himself
>has no clue
You are low EQ and low self awareness. You're worse than mentally retarded. You're never gonna make it with that attitude.

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>>11362697
>can't perform basic socialization functions
I told you, I can but I gain no pleasure nor fulfillment from it, in that way I am to blame probably.
>"bitches giving people stds"
why would I blame myself here?

I scored high on IQ and normal on EQ when evaluated, they measure EQ with god damn comic stories about certain emotions where good solution is based on valid response to comic character's emotional state, you'd have to be autistic to not to recognize them.

why are you so mad?

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>>11360748
fpbp

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>>11362725
>why are you so mad?
life

>> No.11362787

>>11362770
...fucking gay

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>>11362787
LOLIKNORITE

>> No.11362955

>>11361863
tru

>> No.11362963

itt

people saying they’re intelligent

not figuring out how to be happy

>> No.11362964

>>11360742
Your brain shrinks

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>>11362963
srsly, the only intelligent thing you can do in life is figure out how the fuck to be happy. or at least spend every waking moment trying to figure that shit out

>> No.11363098

>>11360742
Pretty fucking bad.
>.t 36
>.t friends all disappeared over the years, havent been laid in 7 years
>been hiding from the world for almost a decade
>old tired and fat now

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>>11363098
it takes only a couple months to get fit and back on track

>> No.11363133

>>11363073
there's more to existence than happiness.

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>>11363133
lol no there isn't

>> No.11363335

>>11363073
exactly, that’s what i mean

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>>11363335
i love you anon

>> No.11363342

>>11360846
I always love reading shit like this since I know it's false.

>> No.11363354

>>11363137
Yes, everywhere we look in existence we see happiness, thats all there is.

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>>11363354
now you're just being a whiny faggot. but i get it. have some comfy

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>>11363370
wait i already posted that 1 in another thread. here's another

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>>11363342
>NOOOOO I HAVE BEEN TAKING SHIT JOBS SINCE I WAS 18 SO I DON'T HAVE ANY GAPS ON MY RESUME AND NEVER SPENT TIME IN SELF REFLECTION SO I DON'T LOSE FRIENDS AND HAVE AS MANY AS POSSIBLE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO SUCCESSFUL LIFE AND THERE'S NO WAY THAT GUY WENT THROUGH HIS 20s WITH A DIFFERENT MINDSET AND IS NOW MAKING MORE MONEY THAN ME

>> No.11363381

>>11362963

best post

>> No.11363385

>>11362077
If you have a reason to be isolated then you will survive, if you don't then you will suffer. Simple.

>>11361883
>>11361952
Hello, my friends.

>> No.11363392

>>11363370
You think youre talking to one person but you arent.

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>>11363392

>> No.11363627

>>11362409
I will definitely meditate going forward. Socially I can talk to people but I can't make friends. As you get older people become more selective and egotistical. As a kid it's easy to make friends, but in middle school it starts getting increasingly complicated. That's when I became a loner. Add social media into the mix and you have narcissists which think they're better than everybody else.

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>>11360742
Extremely harmful. I've been 100% isolated for a few months and on and off I've suffered from:

IBS
Tinnitus
Hair trigger
Insomnia
Paranoia
High Blood Pressure
Depression

And this is with DAILY exercise and a good diet. The myth of the isolated genius is just that, a myth. This lifestyle WILL kill you, and it's no wonder. Just look up what happens to 100% isolated kids, they don't even grow properly. Gangly limbs and deformed brains. It's terrifying.

>> No.11364130

>>11363627
I think one of the most important parts of making friends is recurrent exposure. If you don't have much of a halo effect around you, people having you around often will balance that out, and eventually the positives in you will stand out.

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>>11360742
How harmful?

Imagine constant stabbing pain everywhere in your body.

>> No.11364290 [DELETED] 

>>11362354
>It doesn't. It's in your head.

It does. It’s in your head.

>> No.11364292 [DELETED] 

>>11362627
STDs are really just an annoyance with modern medical technology except for AIDS.

>> No.11364297 [DELETED] 

>>11363133
>there's more to existence than happiness.

No there is not; you’re fooling yourself to cope with your failure at being happy. Get an actual job and make some kids

>> No.11364300 [DELETED] 

>>11363342
>Everyone must be a failure like myself.

This is the kind of thinking you’ll see within cults like blackpilled incel communities.

>> No.11364305

>>11362190
Living without friends has made me a hollow, dissociated sack of meat.

Emotions are gone. It's a stage between life and death.

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>>11364305
put in whatever effort it takes to get that shit back

>> No.11364312

>>11364305
Are any NEET shut ins here anymore?

Haven't left the house in months. Rarely speak with family anymore.

Why can't this be over already?

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>>11364312
>Why can't this be over already?
because it is up to you and you aren't doing it

>> No.11364321

>>11364306
>put in effort

You won't understand. Once the darkness is seen, it creates a black hole within humans.

I.E. being isolated without friends or touching people for years literally changes brain chemistry forever until death. And death becomes desired.

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>>11364321
stop being a faggot. either man up or crawl in a hole and die

>> No.11364331

>>11364328
Ahahahahah let me guess, 30 something, possibly married, works IT job.

You would become like me, if kidnapped and kept isolated for 10 years. Also concussions.

>> No.11364337

>>11364319
>it's up to you

imagine a world where this is true.

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>>11364331
29
experienced almost every mental illness under the sun by choice because fuck being normal
dont give a fuck about friends unless you're a strong leader bcuz ive gone out into the world and have experienced almost every personality type. strong leaders are the only people of value
tried having sex with 1 girl on 2 occasions. couldnt maintain an erection. peer pressure made me do it.
just wanna be happy, comfortable and enjoy my life and then drop dead.

>> No.11364339

>>11364290

you are weak willed if urges control your life. typical pleb.

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>>11364337
you dont have to, you're living in it. but sure no, it's everybody's else's responsibility to organize around your weak pathetic nature. have fun with that

>> No.11364355

>>11364338
>by choice

you chose to be born, right?
The memory is clear.

God's presence was more beautiful than anything else and lasted eternities.
Reached out and touched a nothing which became something within one moment.

All things exploded into perception. You were born together with the Universe. Everyone is a Big Bang.

But, wait, even this mythical tale doesn't include choice.

>> No.11364357

>>11363819
Complete ignorant bullshit.

>> No.11364373 [DELETED] 

>>11364312
>Are any NEET shut ins here anymore?

This is your fault and your parents fault. It should be illegal to children to play video games and use the Internet for more than two hours.

>> No.11364376

>>11364373
>my fault

Keep playing the blame game you stupid nigger, eventually you come up against the Big Bang.

>> No.11364378 [DELETED] 

>>11364339
>you are weak willed if urges control your life.

Don’t care. Satisfying urges is enjoyable.

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>>11364355
this is a gud post. i fux with dis. ive spent a lot of tiem inside of myself trying to figure all this shit out and in the end you're right. god is responsible for this existence and what it has and will encompass. crazy fucking shit.

>> No.11364380 [DELETED] 

>>11364376
>Keep playing the blame game you stupid nigger

Cope. You want to pretend you have no culpability in your failure.
Go outside. Get exercise. Socialize. Eat good.
It is your fault if you don’t do these things and stop being a pitiful cretin.

>> No.11364385

>>11364380
How many times have people said "it's your fault!"

If only it were true.
I could change then. But the total transformation of everything in my life hasn't happened.

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>>11364378
hell ya

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>>11364385
welcome to life on earth. get strong or die a weak whiny bitch. good luck

>> No.11364397 [DELETED] 

>>11364385
>How many times have people said "it's your fault!"

People have said that many times, and it’s true
It is your fault.

Stop crying, shut up and die, or fix your life. No one cares if you intend to wallow in self pity.

>> No.11364412

>>11364397
What's the problem, is the darkness of fatalism entering your mind?

How human will is so weak without permission from everything else in the universe.

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>>11364412
you sound liek the whiniest little faggot

>> No.11364429 [DELETED] 

>>11364412
> What's the problem, is the darkness of fatalism entering your mind?

What’s the problem, is the fact that your failure is 100% your fault too much for you to handle?

>> No.11364437

>>11364429
You chose every event in life, as in from a big list?

No. We aren't incomprehensible Creators of everything. Human will doesn't exist in an impenetrable vacuum.

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>>11364437
choose which wolf to feed, or endure the wrong wolf's destruction. be a bitch. be a hero. take responsibility, or remain a victim of chance and circumstance.

>> No.11364446

>>11364441
>effectively meaningless muh survival of the fittest gibberish

Insufferable poltard, go back to ranting about Jews being simultaneously weak and strong.

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>>11364446
srsly dude, i dont care if you remain a little bitch til the end. it seems remaining a little bitch is very important to you for some reason

>> No.11364457

>>11364450
Exactly like I predicted you simply do not comprehend this topic.

You must believe yourself to be some kind of Gigachad or something. At least demonstrate your ubermensch capabilities and rearrange reality so this conversation never happened.

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>>11364457
i mean, if you want to keep replying with your whiny bitch tone. i guess this is fun for you somehow

>> No.11364479

>>11364457
You rage you lose IRL edition. Butthurt is forceful.

>> No.11364501

>>11364292
>that's how people with herpes, who will never have a decent relationship, cope

>> No.11364571

>>11364463
>Little bitch little bitch little bitch little bitch
Shit, try making a post that is NOT ignorant garbage

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>>11364571
i would if there wasn't so many whiny little faggots on this board that need to be put in their place

>> No.11364683 [DELETED] 

>>11364501
Most people have herpes, child.

>> No.11364705

>>11360846
>Around 30 things flipped so fast. Now I'm 32, married, baby on the way, $110k career, buying a house, fit, healthy, happy.
And this just "happened" to you, right?

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>>11364705

>> No.11364711

>>11364683

Mouth herpes doesn't count. Genital herpes does. And most people do not have herpes-unless you're only talking about black women, of course. Be quiet.

>> No.11364738

>>11364683
That's what a roastie in chem class said once. Seriously?

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>>11360742
its not so bad if you are very intelligent because having to interact with people who are stupid are disappointing and also bad at sex.
Just think on this 90% of the men you are going to interact with have jewish mutiltations to their cock and drink fluride which severely impacts their empathy and reasoning skills. Then you have fat people with high sugar diets and no excercise. You essentially have a population of people who dont see microcosms interacting with their biology and intelligence and just kinda blissfully piss away their existence taking pills and thinking that being human sucks or we are flawed when in reality they are just really fucking up at living optimally. Very few people have a combination of will power, intelligence and drive to excellence because if anyone of those things are missing you are going to get a gullible consumer idiot who exploit your kindness that you exhibit to initialize a friendship and not think twice about it and not give a shit about you because these people are so overly socialized with a bunch of psuedo-sociopaths that they find anyone outside of their core group of retard friends to essentially be non-people to them unless you invest years of time but even then you are just a disposable commodity to be used like a soft drink or a tv and if something goes wrong with you they will just replace you with something else instead of trying to help you.
See the problem with modern cities is that you are brainwashed to think they are the epitome of civilization and development when in reality they are a factory farm for rats that has some really good pr. Most intelligent people with a strong sense of empathy are not going to do well in cities because it caters to idiots who can operate the "machines of the structure" and not give a fuck about the hypocrisy by simply consuming the next product. See the problem is you are looking for companionship while they look at you the same way they would look at a snickersbar.

>> No.11366391

>>11366376
and I mean why do you think divorce rates are so high or people are complaining about incels and hypergamy. Its simple people have basically turned themselves into products to be consumed and when someone doesnt like the product because you get marketed an ideal product from the media whether you like or not.
This is why you have post wall women becoming bitter and looking for beta providers because they realize they cant get chad anymore. Then you get the cat owning single women who think men suck while never considering they suck because of the ideas they consumed and how their built their personality resulted in a narcissist whose only sense of personality comes from the products they consume and their state approved education and job. They probably also take anti depressants which dont help the situation.
See the problem is that you are likely to be lonely in a city because city people are brainwashed consumers who just do what the state and msm tell them without question and if you come in and tell them otherwise it fucking triggers them hard which is the sad thing. Its like dealing with people who are plugged into the matrix. My best suggestion is focus on yourself, educate yourself independently outside mainstream sources especially on health psychology and technology. Listen to 432 hz music. Move to a rural area and focus on being creative or producing goods rather than consuming all the time just be content to read and relax and let people come to you. Its actually ok to be alone if you can keep yourself functionally occupied without just mindlessly consuming information/entertainment.

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>>11366391
And ill tell you its not fucking easy to do this. This day and age you are up against generations of advanced technology, social engineering, and central planning aimed against independently minded good honest people from existing because they pose a threat to the system itself because it posits a functional alternative. You also have to face the idea that its likely your tv, computer smartphone are not good products for your mental health despite becoming dependant on them. Your water supply is likely poisoned along with your toothpaste and most of your groceries and animals you eat are genetically modified and bombarded with a whole host of chemicals designed to either lower your iq or create some sort of health problem down the line while your doctor and pharmacist will gaslight you to the effacacy of certain drugs or treatments while completely ignoring safe and alternative treatments you could find on the internet because having repreat customers is what gets them money. You can basically see that outside of being a loner you have a civilization that is structured like a mob racketeering scheme and pretends it isnt and the worst part is that you may know some tricks but each day it becomes harder and harder for the average human being to protect themselves from all of them so its likely you are going to fall prey to some bullshit sooner or later unless you really compartmentalize yourself and become totally self sufficient.

What im saying is that unless you come from a wealthy well established and connected family its gonna be tough to hack it in life living in an urban environment because you have been sold a false bill of goods your entire life that is hazardous to the nature of the human spirit. I'm telling you instead of being lonely look at it as a time to engage in an act of self development and rebellion and say "no i will find my own life outside the city and I wont fall for your tricks anymore."

>> No.11366419

>>11366407
The most important bit of advice I can give is heavily scrutinize yourself in terms of who you really are vs what was programmed into you. You have to look at all the ideas you have consumed and figure out whats bullshit and whats not because im afraid a lot of it is bullshit designed to self sabotage you while selling you some bullshit soltution.
The key to going forward is ultimately designing your own kind of information key or matrix viewing 6th sense where you can easily discern what information is valuable to your well ebing and what is bullshit junkfood and ill you a lot of the bullshit junkfood information/media is very appealing to expose yourself to. When you become well adapted you will feel disgust when you are in the presense of bullshit information rather than perhaps enjoyment or apathetic tolerance you held in the past because you viewed it as something innocuous but the most important thing is that every bit of information from music to movies is designed to program and inform people and even if you dont pay attention to it the other retards will and it will make them your unfortunate enemy.

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>>11366376
>>11366391
>>11366407
>>11366419
Jesus Christ dude you wrote a book
gonna save this as a text file, spot-on and worth the read

>> No.11367447

>>11366376
>>11366391
>>11366407
>>11366419
>late bloomer
Last post is only one of value
tl;dr know thyself
thanks gramps

>> No.11368390

>>11360742
Social isolation is incredibly harmful. Lack of sex may have some minor health effects, but the isolation is bad for you for sure.
>>11360849
This is a meme. All those autist greats you hear about in the early modern period were legit geniuses, some of them finished college at age 16, and were generally amazing, had written correspondence with educated elites, had working papers circulating, etc. not playing video games or shit posting alone in a bedroom. Even if they hated people and were known to be assholes, people saw how great they were.

>> No.11368546

What if you unironically don't enjoy interacting with other people IRL?

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>>11360742
i have no idea

>> No.11368558

I'm 33 still in love with that girl I like but isolation and being a social retard turned me gay a couple years ago. I recommend everyone lose their virginity before 30 no matter how hard it is

>> No.11368575

>>11364321
I have lived in almost complete isolation for a decade and I'm OK.
Stop being such a pussy crybaby.

>> No.11368594

Bitter thread

>> No.11368615

>>11368390
lack of sex will have massive effects on your self esteem and ability to socialize with your peers

>> No.11369287

>>11368615

citation needed

>> No.11369551

>>11361175
What a load of pseudo nonsense.

>> No.11369561

>>11369551
sounds about right to me, but not everyone has the capacity for extensive metacognition and self awareness, essential prerequisites for introspective reflection and regret

>> No.11369570

>>11362283
you again... sigh

>> No.11369578

>>11362492
>Indigenous people don't have recreational sex
100% untrue

>> No.11369582

>>11363133
v true. Happiness is grossly overrated and not achievable for many people.

>> No.11369585

>>11363385
this is spot on

>> No.11369593

>>11369582

it's achieveable but it requires work, like everything else in life.

>> No.11369596

>>11369593
It really isn't. Hate to break it to you. And that's fine. There are other things in life to focus on. Im not saying being happy doesn't take work for some people. Of course there are loads of those people out there but for many others its just peddling a dream that can't be achieved and therefore leaves many people angry, frustrated and disenchanted with life.

>> No.11369598

>>11369561
>extensive metacognition and self awareness
There was a high school level of that in that quote.

>> No.11369853

>>11369582
Happiness is not a real thhing. Humans invented it. If humans were happy we would become complacent and die off

>> No.11369888

>>11369598
that's right, acknowledgment of mortality and the inevitability of regret/"the grass is greener" effect means you're a literal child, much in the same way as pointing out that struggling with existential quandaries is in fact a normal part of being a human being at any stage of development means you're immature. if you ever feel like life is flawed and the juice might not be worth the squeeze due to everything eventually ending in degradation and decrepitude, you are a CHILDISH piece of SHIT. go have kids and work, why are you thinking about these things?? distraction, anchoring, isolate the bad thoughts, ignore, ignore ignore...

>> No.11370152

Wow you all sound like losers. Feeling sorry about yourselves.
Am i the only one here that is actually happy just ignoring the rest of humanity?
So long as i have a good book to read and a roof over my head i am content in life.

>> No.11370210

>>11362283
Oh Jesus, back to the library with you

>> No.11370225

>>11370152
>Am i the only one here that is actually happy just ignoring the rest of humanity?
Like you are doing right now?
>So long as i have a good book to read
Did you write it yourself?
>a roof over my head
Did you build it yourself?
>i am content in life.
Glad to hear!

>> No.11370337

>>11370152
You must have a mental defect. Isolation drives people mad

>> No.11370362

>>11370225
I meant ignoring as spending as little time with them as possible. I don't deny other people are useful. But that's just that they are useful. I don't actually care about them or long for interaction with them. You dumbasses here are of course always entertaining.

>> No.11370369

>>11370362
>sperg
>insecure reject
So much coping going on

>> No.11370380

>>11370369
>sperg
Perhaps
>insecure reject
You seem to be projecting.

>> No.11370384

>>11360846
Lmao i spent my twenties being social, was engaged briefly even. Then couldn't cope with disliking all my friends and social events and that my gf put out begrudgingly once a month, didn't look after herself but just assumed marriage and kids was guaranteed. It basically was until i just snapped and said im going to fuck other people, she said she'd try harder but i realized then i didn't want her to anymore.

So now 4 years on i don't engage socially at all in any capacity.

>> No.11370448

>>11361041
It's not your fault. A lot of zoomers don't know how to communicate properly.

>> No.11370450

>>11361067
Jobs' parents always told him he's special though.

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>>11361067
>it's something that absolutely must be left for nature

>> No.11370471

>>11370455
Let me guess, "estimate" means "linear projection that doesn't account for the decreasing of fertility rate over time due to demographic transition"?

>> No.11370580

>>11361044
underrated

>> No.11371327

>>11370362
Fair enough! Cheers!

>> No.11371591

>>11368615
Maybe if your friends think sex is the only thing that matter in life

>> No.11371598

>>11370152
Yeah that means you have severe autism, good for you I guess.

>> No.11371605

>>11360742
I'm almost 26 and have been without a social life since high school, just getting some on and off socializing in uni group exercises. That shit is hell and saps all motivation and joy away. I was coping on the computer for the longest time, just recently started to try to actually fix shit and get into some social activities.

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>>11361044
NPC-posters are always so incredibly cringe. The whole meme stems from pol misunderstanding a paper and you post it on the science board. That's just 89 IQ

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>>11361690
>emotionally capable
>lost all my friends
Wow anon your story doesn't really line up

>> No.11371616

>>11360827
nigga got CTE from football practise & now he's crying on 4chan lmfaoool

>> No.11371619

>>11360742
bad if you can't deal with it
i've been a pathetic NEET outcast for a while now but staying /fit/ and reading up on interesting topics kept me physically & mentally sharp up until this point
pretty soon I'll be starting some courses and getting myself back on track, everything is good so far

I assume it's bad if you let yourself rot, but it can be good if you put in the effort to build yourself up in any way possible

go lift and read a book if you're not doing any normie shit, otherwise you'll become a fat retarded bitch

>> No.11371626

>>11361009
>>11361477
>crabs in a bucket trying to pull in a crab outside the bucket

>> No.11371663

>>11370152
You sound like a real loser though

>> No.11372480

>>11361175
>>Marry, and you will regret it; don’t marry, you will also regret it
The regret of the latter far exceeds the first.

>> No.11372485

>>11360742
If you can create an equal amount of oxytocin and dopamine by doing something else, no.

>> No.11373578

>>11363133
Based.

>> No.11373655

>>11371616
I never played football but I almost got knocked out in a fight club during middle school.

I doubt it was enough to cause CTE but I have hit my head many times before I noticed memory loss.

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>>11373655
I can barely remember anything about my past about who I really am it has been almost 6 years since I started to lose my memory.

all of my identity has been destroyed by the disease, and I just feel lifeless and purposeless.

I can sense that I am different than everyone around me because of the dementia, everybody.

I sometimes go to college and do chemistry, physics and biology. I actually do really well and it feels great to have something I am good at, at least one thing in the world I can understand.

>> No.11373913

>>11372480
Surely it can't be that bad if you are a male right?

>> No.11374272

>>11361083
He's objectively right about reading you tho, don't get upset.

Stop being like that.

>> No.11374787

>>11360760
I can relate to the way you feel but I don't put it down to mental illness. I don't really fit in and I don't particularly care about anything, I've tried all the generic cures for meme mental illnesses and even though I felt better in some aspects I still kept the mentality of feeling like I'm in my own tribe seperated from the rest of the people around me. I still feel the biological urge to have sex, bond socially and achieve things but if I sit down and think those things through I calm down and go back to not really caring anymore. Maybe this happened due to the isolation that OP mentioned, but if it all it took was some time alone to end up like this then it's safe to say I've always been like this and I was just distracted.

>> No.11376211

>>11369578
hard agree they were fuckin like mad until we rocked up and killed them all

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>>11376211
lol white people ruining everything in the name of progress hell ya

>> No.11376230

>>11376215
lol get fucked low-iq spearchuckers

>> No.11377222

>>11360760
lol fucking pathetic

>> No.11378063

>>11377222
How so?

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>>11377222

>> No.11378111 [DELETED] 

>>11376215
>Noooo Muh useless rocks

Progress wins. Nature loses.

>> No.11378120

>>11378111
In the end nature will win defeat is inevitable.

>> No.11378122

>>11361016
You re right that desperate social interaction where you comprise values or tolerate abuse it a real common problem, also stupid if you conform to them as a group and you are not unique and original anymore. Most people do this and that why the social norms thing is mass mind control and is contrary to free thought and all the rest

>> No.11378129 [DELETED] 

>>11378120
>In the end nature will win

Nope. Humans always win. Defeat of nature is inevitable.

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>>11378129
All of human civilization our largest monuments and our greatest achievements face inevitable destruction.

Sooner than you know it earth will be swallowed by the sun, and everything will be erased and return back to nature.

We just think we are these big bad guys destroying fragile ecosystems, but the truth is it’s us we are the weaklings who will die.

>> No.11378162 [DELETED] 

>>11378157
>All of human civilization our largest monuments and our greatest achievements face inevitable destruction.

Nah. We’ll make more.

> Sooner than you know it earth will be swallowed by the sun

We’ll be off Earth by then.

> but the truth is it’s us we are the weaklings who will die.

Nah, that’s just you. Kys beta male.

>> No.11378172

>>11361883
Why are you getting so worked up about some guy dropping his friends? There is more to life than that.

>> No.11378201

>>11378162
All these hippies crying about the destruction of nature by industrial civilization are definitely wrong.

The most vulnerable species are actually humans and other large mammals.

There are other much more resilient species which will survive the actions of humans.

For example insects, extremophiles and other organisms which are more resilient.

Humans will be inevitably defeated by nature.

>> No.11379587

>>11360742
>So, just how harmful is prolonged social isolation and lack of sex?
it's only harmful if you're a pussy with no attention span who can't handle not having constant valdiation from other people.

>> No.11379810

>>11363133
wroooooong.
Happisenss is everything positive there is. Love is happiness. Having fun is happiness. Being fullfilled, making the difference ecc... it's literally the only thing we live for, happiness or the prospective of being happy some day