/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.11353447]

Is Coronavirus even something to panic about
Current infected is 15,000. Deaths:300. So far it isn't that serious, but between the big quarantine in mainland China, and WHO declaring it a global health emergency, I honestly don't know what to think.

Should we wear masks if our region/state has infected? Is this something to panic about, or is it just another bullshit hype train?

[Anonymous No.11353451]

>>11353447
Earlier today it was 250 deaths. Does that answer your question?

[Anonymous No.11353455]

No. It's a health scare just like Ebola and Zika in order for governments to justify increasing airport security. I doubt it even exists.

[Anonymous No.11353459]

>>11353447
I'm just going to say, one thing to be considered is its spread might not be linear. If, for example, this virus, if it is as dangerous as they say, were to be sprayed from aircraft, infection would be more a speckling. And spread from there.

I still think 5G is involved in this somehow. They're locking people in to an area that has 5G. Is it a test? And if so, what aspects are under test? Surveillance and containment, obviously.
Contain->Quantify->Control
As usual. However, what if they're also testing the ability to control the spread of disease arbitrarily? Weaken the immune system for some, attenuate the virus in others. Perhaps it's just an extermination. Lock them into a millimeter wave hell and destroy their immune system with a fancy virus running loose.

Perhaps they just want good PR. Look, 5G and probably some vaccine saved the day!

https://venturebeat.com/2020/01/27/zte-5g-gear-lets-chinas-experts-remotely-diagnose-wuhan-coronavirus/
https://fullfact.org/online/wuhan-5g-coronavirus/
https://www.nperf.com/en/map/CN/1791247.Wuhan/-/signal/

[Anonymous No.11353471]

>>11353451
>Earlier today it was 250 deaths

Over 100,000 humans die daily lol

[Anonymous No.11353492]

>>11353455
Definitely leaning towards this. As much as I'd like for something to finally actually happen, nothing ever really happens and just like Ebola and Zika, this will be forgotten about next month tops.

[Anonymous No.11353511]

>>11353447
>>11353455
>>11353459
>>11353471
>>11353492


What a fucking bunch of retards.

[Anonymous No.11353531]

>>11353511
And? I don't see you contributing shit to the conversation. How are we retarded?

[Anonymous No.11353548]

>>11353531
99% of the conversation has already been discussed on /sci/. If you're still in the dark about it, you have to be retarded.

[Anonymous No.11353549]

>>11353492
>As much as I'd like for something to finally actually happen

Sociopaths aren’t people.

[Anonymous No.11353579]

>>11353447
Panic? No. Be aware of? Perhaps.

Right now, with well functioning medical facilities and peak medical treatment, the virus has 2% death rate. It also has (so far 2% cure rate).

Quick homework, before you continue, quickly multiply your town / cities population by 0.02 for no reason whatsoever.

That is the number of people that would die, if everybody fell ill, and there was someone else taking care of them at a well functioning, well supplied hospital.

Now imagine how much more would that be if there was no "somebody else". At what % population sick does the medical system fall apart?

This virus is completely without symptoms for 2 weeks, allowing it to spread underacted. Here I need to delve into speculation: "Though not yet confirmed, Chinese health authorities believe the virus can be transmitted before symptoms appear."

tl;dr: Don't panic. So far the only people concerned are those responsible for medical screenings and preparation of medical facilities, to avoid it ever coming to worst.

[Anonymous No.11353586]

>>11353447
it has been reported that it is more contagious then the flu, not as deadly but remember that viruses tend to jump and evolve after a period of time, so there is a possibility that it can become a very deadly disease so its better to isolate this disease then ignore the problem

[Anonymous No.11353598]

Can someone post the updated death toll table?

[Anonymous No.11353609]

the corona virus subreddit just got quarantined, china is up to something :/

[Anonymous No.11353619]

>>11353579
>well functioning, well supplied hospital
I don't think these exist in China. Everything I've seen points to staff and supply shortages, probably worsened by mass hysteria.

[Anonymous No.11353630]

Will I look retarded wearing a mask to work?

[Anonymous No.11353633]

>>11353630
unless you live in China you will look like a complete loony

[Anonymous No.11353644]

>>11353633
Kinda worried since I live in Chicago and we've had 2 cases already. If the lethality rate is true though then there really isn't anything to worry about

[Anonymous No.11353657]

>>11353644
the fatality rate roughly equals the recovery rate

[Anonymous No.11353912]

>>11353549
>Not wanting humanity to be culled so we don't end up turning the planet into a desert, forcing billions into starvation and resources wars instead of just quietly dying of an infection that hits like a truck.
Breeders are the real sociopaths.

[Anonymous No.11354018]

>>11353447
>Should we wear masks if our region/state has infected?
transmittable through the eyes.

[Anonymous No.11354133]

>>11353630
If you start coughing and acting sick, aswell you can have fun watching people get worried.

[Anonymous No.11354167]

Just an excuse for the government to increase airport security and shut off chinese people

[Anonymous No.11354170]

>>11353447
>Should we wear masks if our region/state has infected?
No, the disease appears to transmissible through the pores. The best thing to do is to prepare for a food/water shortage if this becomes a global pandemic and take some Thymosin α1 if you don't want to get sick.

[Anonymous No.11354173]

>>11353447
No, its just another retarded FOTM end-of-the-world meme

[Anonymous No.11354175]

>>11353912
You just confirmed what he said with this post

[Anonymous No.11354477]

>>11353531
This. This right here.

[Anonymous No.11354740]

>>11353447
> I honestly don't know what to think.
This is what mentally challenged people are thinking.

>>11353455
> It's a health scare just like Ebola and Zika in order for governments to justify increasing airport security. I doubt it even exists.
This is what mentally challenged people, but also deluded people, are thinking. Pre-schizo 99% sure

>>11353459
>I still think 5G is involved in this somehow.
Deluded, Schizo, retarded, all these terms encapsulate the thought process of a moron

>>11353471
>Over 100,000 humans die daily lol
This is a troll deploying whataboutism.

>>11353492
> just like Ebola and Zika, this will be forgotten about next month tops.
Its the mind of an idiot searching for confirmation of his biases

I said all these people are fucking morons. I honestly don't know why they are so proud of their stupidity, but obviously being ignorant of how stupid you are is part of the deal when you're a moron. See how they reinforce and cluster? These people don't know what facts and evidence are. They don't know who or what sources of information to trust. They can't be bothered to attend classes and learn from first principles the concepts and ideas that form the basis for understanding the issues they claim to be interested in.

I've met tons of these people in RL, but never in conspicuous places, like in university libraries, or a newsstand, where their ignorance can at least be treated. They might live in some backwater where some combination of regressive politics, polluted drinking water, geographic isolation, or economic depravity might prevent them from developing mental and intellectual skills and wisdom, but I doubt it, since they are using the internet.

So there really is no excuse. Jannies should disqualify and ban these idiots from /sci/ since they are likely to keep coming here and lowering the collective IQ of this board, posting their /x/ tier observations and useless opinions. These lazy fucks are why we have SQTDDTOT

[Anonymous No.11354761]

Traffic accidents kill more than this virus every day

[Anonymous No.11354863]

>>11354740
>Deluded, Schizo, retarded, all these terms encapsulate the thought process of a moron
Reposting:

I'm just going to say, one thing to be considered is its spread might not be linear. If, for example, this virus, if it is as dangerous as they say, were to be sprayed from aircraft, infection would be more a speckling. And spread from there.

I still think 5G is involved in this somehow. They're locking people in to an area that has 5G. Is it a test? And if so, what aspects are under test? Surveillance and containment, obviously.
Contain->Quantify->Control
As usual. However, what if they're also testing the ability to control the spread of disease arbitrarily? Weaken the immune system for some, attenuate the virus in others. Perhaps it's just an extermination. Lock them into a millimeter wave hell and destroy their immune system with a fancy virus running loose.

Perhaps they just want good PR. Look, 5G and probably some vaccine saved the day!

https://venturebeat.com/2020/01/27/zte-5g-gear-lets-chinas-experts-remotely-diagnose-wuhan-coronavirus/
https://fullfact.org/online/wuhan-5g-coronavirus/
https://www.nperf.com/en/map/CN/1791247.Wuhan/-/signal/

See: >>11354858

[Anonymous No.11355561]

>>11353549
Let me guess, you're a Christian (or atheist with Christian "values").

[Anonymous No.11355567]

>>11353471
>what is exponential growth
ca. 2 weeks ago, there were 250 cases total, too

dying takes time

[Anonymous No.11356123]

>Chinese doctors are saying it's contagious without symptoms
>US doctors are saying the opposite
Who's in the right?

[Anonymous No.11356155]

>>11356123
China, because the Chinese are lying about everything except when I want them to be right because it's convenient for my agenda

[Anonymous No.11356193]

>>11356123
I thought the Western doctors were saying that there isn’t conclusive evidence for either side, so it’s better to be safe than sorry.

[Anonymous No.11356195]

>>11356193
>so it’s better to be safe than sorry.
you're right about that, but as far as I can tell, most cases outside of China are either
>people who have gone to Wuhan
or
>people who were in close contact with infected after they were sick

[Anonymous No.11356270]

>>11353447
Assuming the numbers are correct, the situation looks bad. An epidemic needs some time to pick up steam, and Corona-chan is picking up steam EXTREMELY fast.

There's absolutely no harm in wearing a mask. Asians do it all the time even when they're not sick. There's also no harm in gathering enough canned/dried food, water and supplies to last a few weeks in case of emergency (of any kind).

[Anonymous No.11356273]

Nothing to worry about, everything id completely normal. It's like a cold or flu. You're literally more likely to get raped to death by a negroid than catch the kung flu.

[Anonymous No.11356478]

>>11354175
You just confirmed you're an idealistic child with this post.

[Anonymous No.11357035]

>>11354018
So full gas mask, yes?
Should even be enough space to write "Corona free is the life for me" so people know I know whatsup

[Anonymous No.11357040]

>>11356270
Idk, i don't think you should say "No harm". Those straps are uncomfortable and leave marks over my ears. They hurt.

[Anonymous No.11357174]

>>11353492
>As much as I'd like for something to finally actually happen

[Anonymous No.11357284]

>>11357174
rekt lol

[Anonymous No.11357294]

>>11353579
But is that 2% kill rate adjusted for the sufferer's underlying health i.e elderly/sick Anon?

[Anonymous No.11357377]

>>11357040
Use non-earloop variants
>>11357035
Goggles

[Anonymous No.11357399]

>>11353630
No you won't.
Mask wearing is becoming more and more common. The only reason I'm not wearing a mask is because I didn't buy enough before the chinks bought them all up.

[Anonymous No.11357403]

According to WHO, asymptomatic transmission is rare, happening over, /pol/tards can go home now

[Anonymous No.11357417]

>2months into aids
>Bro there is like 10,000 stupid africans who fucked a monkey infected who cares

>2months into spliced Corona Virus spread by some retard chink lab worker
>Bro China shut down 90% of their populations centers just to calm down markets, some stupid bat eating chinks will die who cares. Travel bans accounting for large fractions of trade are just governments larping.

[Anonymous No.11357449]

>>11355567
Good thing its not growing exponentially any more

[Anonymous No.11357459]

>>11353447
>search thread
>no Hong Kong
>You better stop protesting!!
>Wouldn't want you to get sick!! :^)

They would rather kill millions than lose power.

[Anonymous No.11357518]

>>11357449
Proofs? Because last time I checked it's still a J-curve with no sign of plateauing.

[Anonymous No.11358685]

>>11354740
This is an underated post, but you're still a faggot.

[Anonymous No.11358793]

>>11353549
Overpopulation is the source of most our problems nowadays, cunt

[Anonymous No.11358795]

>>11353579
Inflated numbers due to it starting in a country with shit healthcare and people with a weakened defense. Look how many people the common flu/cold kill every day. These are baby numbers

[Anonymous No.11358798]

>>11354863
Do you die from standing around a radio?
5G is not dangerous

[Anonymous No.11358799]

>>11356270
Is that a graph of the "dangerous" swine flu?
Kek

[Anonymous No.11358800]

>>11358798

>>11354858

[Anonymous No.11358866]

>>11354018
Also transmissible through faeces so be sure wear a butt plug

[Anonymous No.11359373]

>>11358800
>Please come to my schizo thread where I shit all over scientific rigor to justify my irrational fears.

[Anonymous No.11359375]

>>11357518
The second derivative is decreasing, nigger

[Anonymous No.11359381]

>>11359375
>Using two sample points fabricated by the Chinese government, I can conclusively confirm I'm fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.11359416]

>>11353447
well, it's now 20k

[Anonymous No.11359434]

>>11353447
To stay healthy, you definitely have to check on /sci at least once every hour, and supplement regularly with several conspiracy and scaremonger sites.

[Anonymous No.11359448]

>>11359434
Clamped, vaccinated...
....
...
:^)

[Anonymous No.11359455]

>>11359375
Wow, when you publishing this?

[Anonymous No.11359603]

>>11353447
Incorrect, as of 4th February 2020

20,708 Confirmed cases (2,792 serious, 673 critical)
427 Confirmed deaths
647 Confirmed recoveries

[Anonymous No.11359622]

>>11359603
>647 Confirmed recoveries
I noticed something interesting about the US media covering the virus, they will literally never tell you how many people are recovering, sometimes they'll mention that people are recovering, but not the exact number, I'm not exactly sure how it is with other media, but jesus christ the media from my country is the worst

[Anonymous No.11359632]

>>11353447
>Is Coronavirus even something to panic about
I don't know :/ We'll know in a month or two I guess.

[Anonymous No.11359636]

>>11359622
The primary interest in any Western nation is how they're covering the epidemic. All the information is controlled, we don't know the full picture and they intend to keep it that way. It's no tin foil hat shit, it's purely market driven. Western markets are beating the East for the first time in over half a decade, and it will capitalise on that until the outbreak becomes mutual which it will. It WILL spread uncontrollably in the West it's only a matter of time, given that the asymptomatic period is so long yet transmission occurs within a day, we are seeing a veeeery slow domino effect start to unravel. Notice what each government is saying, yet watch what they are doing. It might not be some dawn of the dead shit, but given the nature of this virus we will be seeing it ping-pong around for a long time, not to mention the possible mutations we can expect down the line.

[Anonymous No.11359695]

>>11359375
did you mean to say... negative? Oh buddy...

[Anonymous No.11359748]

[Anonymous No.11359829]

The incubation period for this thing appears to be 2-3 weeks, with transmissability beginning before carriers show symptoms.

On that basis, since international cases started getting reported less than a fortnight ago, it's too early to say how widespread this will get.

China is not a reliable data point because of a huge distortion factors (culture and politics) between what's happening on the ground and what makes it to official record.

The fatal aspect of this infection is that it triggers Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome, and THAT is what's keeling people over. That's not confined to the elderly or infirm by any means, and even if you recover there are lifelong effects. 40% of people that develop ARDS will die.

Will this be a global pandemic with mass fatalities? Unclear at present. Does it have the potential to be so based on what we know to be true so far? Absolutely.

[Anonymous No.11360336]

>>11359829
>incubation period for this thing appears to be 2-3 weeks
They think it's min 1 day and max 2 weeks, with 6 days on average. It has indeed been shown to be transmissible before symptoms, but likely at lower rates because of low levels of virons in the lungs and no coughing which more easily brings the virons out of the lung (virons are produced deep down in the lung in most cases). It has also been shown that the virus can transmit AFTER sympoms are gone, but likely this isn't for long and also likely at lower rates for same reasons as in the incubation period.

Source
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQFBUgDgG_k

> Will this be a global pandemic with mass fatalities? Unclear at present. Does it have the potential to be so based on what we know to be true so far? Absolutely.
Yes, I agree. It is a quite contagious virus with R0 estimated 2.24-3.58. At least in crowded, unsanitary and polluted China. By comparison, 2009 Swine flu R0 have been estimated 1.75, and been estimated to have infected 11%-21% of the global population. nCoV likely has much higher mortality as well, current estimate is 100 times higher.

The quarantine efforts inside of China seems to help, but does not seem sufficient to keep it from spreading to other parts of China. For instance, Guangdong and Zhejiang grew from 683 to 797 and 724 to 829 cases. Growth outside of quarantine has been much slower than it was inside of qurantine when instances was this low, but that's still quite a lot cases. The confirmed cases outside of China is still very low and they have been for quite some time now. Not really much progress for the last week. If it stays like this for another two weeks, I will start feeling a little relieved as we have passed incubation period and also some extra days for people to report to their doctors.

[Anonymous No.11360342]

>>11354740
>calls people schizo
>is desperately paranoid about some literal meme virus that nobody will talk or care or think about in a month
I wonder what the next flavor-of-the-month "ITS HABBENING!!!!" will be

[Anonymous No.11360394]

>>11359829
>40% of people that develop ARDS will die.
I'm pretty sure it's 100%.

[Anonymous No.11360561]

Quite a big part of the cases are outside of the quarantine. They are growing as steadily as the numbers inside the quarantine, altough a bit slower.

[Anonymous No.11360608]

>>11360561
I imagine the new hospitals gave them a higher capacity for testing, which is why there was a huge jump in new infected

[Anonymous No.11360660]

>>11360336
looking at canada having a total of 5 cases, it does seem like the R0 is much more slower than in china. It's been a week since the first case and it didn't seem like it infected anyone beside his wife. Not even in the airplane. The grow rate fell down to a steady ~20% in the last week. I assume that the chinese new year contributed to the 35-50% growth of last week.

I wish humanity the best of the best in the cooming months.

[Anonymous No.11360682]

>>11360608
>huge jump
I believe the first new hospital was taken into use 3 Feb. I don't see a huge jump from 3 to 4 Feb. I don't see a difference at all really. Growth is increasing very slightly, just as it has done since 31 Jan (constant postive second derivative). Testing capacity must indeed have been influencing the numbers a lot. Imagine if they had unlimited testing capacity, then they could test everyone in the city, diagnose within incubation period, order quarantine immediately. I'd speculate particularly around 27 Jan there was a marked improvement in testing capacity.

[Anonymous No.11360702]

>>11360660
> it does seem like the R0 is much more slower than in china.
Yeah, probably even if the virus caught some speed.
>The grow rate fell down to a steady ~20% in the last week.
Yeah, we had negative second order derivative for a while. Now it's postive, but it looks very close to constant.
>I assume that the chinese new year contributed to the 35-50% growth of last week.
Maybe the new R0 estimates will sink a little because of this.

[Anonymous No.11360706]

>>11360660
It’s literally nothing lol

[Anonymous No.11360715]

shieeeeet

[Anonymous No.11360815]

>>11360702
>we had negative second order derivative for a while. Now it's postive
that's not not something I like to read, but it's fair. I wish you the best in your studies and health anon. Don't stress to much over it.

take care of yourself.

>>11360706
I hope

[Anonymous No.11360816]

>>11360715
>50% death rate into 35% death rate
>80% were boomers leeching of society
Thank god for the coronavirus.

[Anonymous No.11361178]

>>11354740
You need to provide a scientific rebuttal.
Otherwise you look like a shill. You cant argue that everyone who doesn’t agree with you is an idiot and leave it at that. You can on /pol/ though

[Anonymous No.11361321]

>>11353644
But the recovery is extremely painful.

[Anonymous No.11361385]

>>11356270
Corona-chan is airborne. Masks are useless anyway.

[Anonymous No.11361421]

>>11361385
Incorrect on both accounts

[Anonymous No.11361422]

>>11360815
>I hope
You don't need to hope. This is science not a magical fairy you fucking idiot. It's nothing. Gb2/x/

[Anonymous No.11362057]

>>11361321

[Anonymous No.11362059]

>>11353447
Real numbers are likely much higher. I wouldn't trust Official Numbers from China any further than I can throw the Communist Party.

[Anonymous No.11363306]

>>11360815
>Don't stress to much over it.
You're right, I shouldn't.
>I wish you the best in your studies and health anon.
>take care of yourself.
That's sweet, Anon! I wish you the same!

[Anonymous No.11363340]

>>11353447
It's either a standard case (like SARS) for pharmaceutical companies to hype and drain money out of governments for nothing or the Chinese fucked up at the virus research lab at Wuhan and it got released to the outside world. Perhaps its a mix of both but in either case the death toll is much much greater than what the Chinese government tells you. You don't quarantine cities with a population of 80M for 300 deaths.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/did-chinas-tencent-accidentally-leak-true-terrifying-coronavirus-statistics

[Anonymous No.11363352]

>>11363340
honestly I feel like the whole "escaped manmade virus" theory is kind of weak, yeah there's a biolab in the city but there's also a fairly large open market there too, and it's more likely it was naturally made there as opposed to escaping from a facility designed to keep that stuff in

[Anonymous No.11363406]

>>11363352
Most likely it was from a zoonotic reservoir.

Of course the bio weapon hypothesis is only viable if you consider that China wouldn't have a problem with killing off their own, whether to reduce climate change, boomers leaching off their economy, the overwhelming number of males there, ect. Also you consider the happy coincidence that the virus targets lung receptor that just so happen to be prevalently expressed in asians, but relatively little everywhere else. I wouldn't put it above the Chinese government to carry out organized infection and death of their citizens under the guise of the next animal spread pandemic, then claim helplessness as it unfolds before their citizen's very eyes, but that's just conspiracy.

[Anonymous No.11363461]

[Anonymous No.11363466]

[Anonymous No.11363534]

>>11363406
I doubt that the Chinese government would release it on their own people. The top man himself has said the virus would directly impact social stability in the country and that's why they are quarantining a major country's population worth of people, not giving the true numbers, etc.

[Anonymous No.11363541]

>>11363406
Then what if it was a bioweapon unleashed on them by a certain country that's in the middle of a trade war against China?

[Anonymous No.11363547]

I just caught a cold yesterday. Is it over for me lads? Did I get got? It's pretty mild atm.

[Anonymous No.11363574]

>>11363547
Call your doctor

[Anonymous No.11363578]

>>11363574
I'm American, I can't afford one.

[Anonymous No.11363584]

>>11363547
U gonna get raped boi

[Anonymous No.11363624]

>>11353630
with a face like that it's always an improvement

[Anonymous No.11363632]

>>11363578
>American can't afford doctor while me a third world Indonesian have a family GP
L M A O
wish I had your gun law though.

[Anonymous No.11363671]

>>11363578
I am sorry, Anon. Most likely it is just the common flu, and even if it is coronachan you will be most likely be fine in 5 days. Regardless of what it is, you should stay inside and keep to yourself to avoid spreading it. If you live with other people you need to tell them you are feeling ill such that they amp can up handwashing etc. Maybe they'll even cook for you s.t. you don't smear it in the kitchen. If you are getting the ideosyncratic coronachan symptoms they will want to test you for it regardless of your insurance and financial situation.

[Anonymous No.11363688]

>>11359695
Nice job not understanding exponentials
>>11359448
>Clamped
what did you mean by that?

[Anonymous No.11363694]

>>11354740
>disqualifies by merely calling them schizos
>he thinks he can accurately diagnose schizophrenia

You are the kind of person that would have readied up his pitchfork when told that a witch had been found in the village.

[Anonymous No.11363760]

>>11363406
I think theres probably a little bit of an anthropic principle thing going on. If asians had been slightly more susceptible, then the virus might not have caught on like it has or might not have made the initial jump, and we wouldn't even be talking about this

[Anonymous No.11363780]

>>11353447
It is if you live in china
Global health emergency just means there's a chance of it crossing borders and getting out of hand and the fact that it's declared a ghe means it's being taken care of, not that the earth is about to fucking deflate.

[Anonymous No.11363787]

>>11363694
>Not wanting to burn the witch
Sounds like something a heretic would say

[Anonymous No.11364555]

>>11353447
You should never panic about anything. Just keep an eye on it and when it gets to your area take appropriate measures. Your survival is almost totally up to chance if SHTF anyway, so just enjoy life while you can, and keep a bug out bag, anything is diminishing returns on your survival. The only people who can drastically increase their survival chances are the ultra rich who all have bunkers with life support.

[Anonymous No.11364563]

>>11364555
Anything beyond a BOB*

[Anonymous No.11365154]

>>11364555
>BOB
Meme. The best chance at survival is shelter in place. Unless you live innacity, in which case you're just fucked.

[Anonymous No.11365193]

>>11363534
I'm telling you man, this is China we're talking about, if their government doesn't want something to happen, it doesn't happen. Yet I hear about people bypassing barricades set up around the city? And living long enough afterwards to brag about it online? It just doesn't add up. Their quarantines seem completely useless.

[Anonymous No.11365238]

[Anonymous No.11365244]

>>11359373
You can't even read anything which challenges your views. I don't know what to say.

[Anonymous No.11365326]

>>11363406
>whether to reduce climate change, boomers leaching off their economy, the overwhelming number of males there
Even though it does seem to affect males more and any illness will affect the elderly more, I'd expect it more as a test of new population/information control methods. Losing even a million people is seen as a drop in the bucket there.

[Anonymous No.11365597]

>>11365244
I've read reams and reams of schizotext and I've been trained to avoid it because it's always fucking wrong. Go talk to /x/ about your dumb ideas which don't mesh with reality.

[Anonymous No.11365625]

>>11365597
Well, that was then and that was that. This is now, and this is this. Read it or don't, that's all I can tell ya.

Bothering to talk to people and convincing them to start informing themselves goes against my own conditioning, but I recognize it needs to be done. This can't continue.

[Anonymous No.11366488]

[Anonymous No.11366496]

>>11361421
Those medical masks is like trying to catch grain sugar with a fishing net, what you need is a mask designed for either extremely fine particles like a P3 for euros and goggles
Luckily those can be bought at hardware stores
Medical masks are a fucking sham because they don't even form a face seal, meaning that you'll mostly be breathing around them

[Anonymous No.11366500]

>>11353447
i mean what scary me is we don't know the real numbers, the chinks are most likely lying about the real numbers, can be 1 mil infected or more and 10.000 deaths.

[Anonymous No.11366924]

>>11366496
They're to make people feel safe so the riots don't start early.

[Anonymous No.11367099]

>>11353451
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>>11356270
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>>11360336
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i came here expecting better analysis than fucking /pol/

stats fags have absolutely no useful input in these discussions. relying on infection rates and R nought to project the impact of this virus on a global scale is pointless when there's no real data coming out of china.

the seriousness of this disease in the individual depends on ACE2 receptor density which is obviously going to be higher in populations with poor respiratory health and/or poor cardiovascular health. higher receptor density = quicker and more profound infection of lung tissue, higher virulence. ACE2 receptor density is higher in smokers than non-smokers, and living in china is like living in a fucking ashtray.

this will hit places like India pretty hard, but in the West we have much better air and overall health for obvious reasons.

[Anonymous No.11367225]

>>11367099
>there's no real data coming out of china.
I completely trust that each and every number coming out of China represents actual cases of the disease. The stats acts as a greatest lower bound. This is the most fundamental analysis we have of this situation. It should be the basis of all speculation, including yours. You bet it is the basis of mine! I did my bit of speculation two weeks ago when I learned about the unusually long incubation time, the asympotmatic transmission, the similarities to SARS etc. It wasn't hard to understand that this disease was going to spread well! The thing I was unsure of was it's mortality, and I hope you are right that this will hit the west with a lower mortality.