Existence

[Anonymous No.11337684]

If one wasn't, all could never be.

So the truth to mankind is, we drive ourselves foward only due to our primal needs, and if we were all logical and self-aware we would see that existance itself has no meaning.

Is embracing ignorance the only way out from this philosophical abyss?

[Anonymous No.11337707]

>>11337684
gtfo back to lit you nihilist scum

[Anonymous No.11337763]

>>11337707
His whole project seemed to have been to fend off nihilism. Does the fact that more people are effective nihilists than ever mean he failed?

[Anonymous No.11337789]

>>11337684
4chan is 18+

[Anonymous No.11337801]

>>11337684
>>11337763
https://youtu.be/k8UTMl3BK80

[Anonymous No.11337818]

>>11337789
>acknowledging the truth that everything in life is ultimately futile/all will be washed away as the end result is inevitably a maximum entropy universe means you're a child

cope

[Anonymous No.11337821]

>>11337818
The universe is not a closed system. There could be a way "out". Keep searching...

[Anonymous No.11337883]

>>11337818
I'm sure I'm just right by coincidence, kiddo

[Anonymous No.11338018]

>>11337684

If you were truly being honest you'd have realized that since meaning is a human quality acquired through evolution as indicate to us that you are on the right path towards being a useful member of your tribe, and unit of your family. (much like hunger indicates a low blood sugar level).

Which means, that it literally doesn't matter to you if the heat death of the universe will be a thing or not, because you cannot stop feeling good and hopeful as soon as you
1. Start socialize and give to a community
2. Feel respected and loved by such people
3. Build a family of your own

Now you could also be your typical incel without social skills or self esteem, being a recluse in his room and pretend that your problems are actually the scale of the entire universe and the laws that govern it while you slowly decay and wither away deeper and deeper in schizotypal symptoms.

[Anonymous No.11338023]

>>11338018
Honestly, this seems to be it. Who gives a fuck about the heat death of the universe if you're loved by many and having great sex with a woman you enjoy being around?

[Anonymous No.11338085]

>>11338023
hedonic treadmill, there have been kings with massive harems who drank themselves to death

>>11337883
i'm sure you're a faggot but hey you don't see me bringing it up

[Anonymous No.11338101]

>>11338085
>hedonic treadmill
I really wish I could unlearn this concept

[Anonymous No.11338174]

>>11338018

OP here

Your post has some thought and some effort behind it, there is just a few things I can't agree with.

If you feel that you need a psychological profile to discuss with someone with nihilistic tendencies, I'll brief you:

Sex and woman? I into it, yes.
If a woman shows interest in me I wont deny it, I barely have any filter so I'm not one of those picky incels. If I get rejected? Sure, I'll be a little angry at the situation but I won't let it out, I'll be as civilized as possible.
Lately, for my past 3 years, I've been having sex with prostitutes when I want to or hang with some easy 5/10 bitches from Tinder, and that's it.

Social interactions? I won't run away from them but I'm an introvert at heart and will always be like this.
And yes, I tend to throw away my life at home most of the time and I feel so good doing it, so I dont think that's a problem.

And that's basically it, but hey anon, this right here I just wrote about is just some PRIMAL needs of a human being, and if we decide that this shall be our ultimate goal, never leave earth and just keep having sex and social interactions until we go extinct, we will have the same result as if humanity decides to colonize the entire universe, achieves ultimate technological singularity and decides to destroy itself when creating a new universe to start everything from the start because all goals were completed and there was nothing else to do.

If the first humans all died and never reproduced, thousands of years ago, humanity would achieve the same thing it will achieve a million years in the future, nothing.

And I feel like, if every human was this self-aware about the universe, human progress would be halted since at the end, nothing really matters.
It seems that existance has only one rule: everything that is must end.

[Anonymous No.11338186]

>>11338174
>existance has only one rule: everything that is must end.
I would say existence has only one eternal constant: change. What you call an "end" is really just a transfiguration from one thing to another. Anyway, I think the ultimate goal is to change ourselves in such a way that we are fine with nothing having inherent meaning. In other words, to somehow neutralize >>11338101 >>11338085 the hedonic treadmill. We really can't unless we have control over our own condition as humans. But this is something that is already within reach, or conceivably could be very soon.

In short, as Leo Tolstoy once wrote, human beings need hope to go on living and to feel that their lives are worthwhile and not in vain. If you choose to be so hopeless as you are, you're already dead. I would advise you to try to find some hope that some way, somehow we will find a way to feel as though all of this is not one big waste.

[Anonymous No.11338195]

>>11337684
>Is embracing ignorance the only way out from this philosophical abyss?
SHUT THE GOD DAMN FUCK UP YOU PSEUDO-INTELLECTUAL. THERE IS MEANING EVERYWHERE, WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIEK THE MEANING DOESNT FUCKING MATTER STOP BEING A CONCEITED CUNT

[Anonymous No.11338202]

>>11338186

>In short, as Leo Tolstoy once wrote, human beings need hope to go on living and to feel that their lives are worthwhile and not in vain. If you choose to be so hopeless as you are, you're already dead. I would advise you to try to find some hope that some way, somehow we will find a way to feel as though all of this is not one big waste.

You know what? I loved this. I'll go and watch the Jordan Peterson video posted here to see if I can reshape my thinking.

Thank you for your time anon, it's really refreshing leaving retarded boards like /v/, /pol/ or whatever and having a reasonable discussion with someone else.

About existance:

Our consciousness, the thing that created this universe for us humans, it does end when we die, it can't transform.

[Anonymous No.11338206]

>>11338202
>Our consciousness, the thing that created this universe for us humans, it does end when we die, it can't transform.
citations/sources/evidence needed

[Anonymous No.11338210]

>>11338195

Believing certain things are forever settled and that we must not question these things is stupid and ignorant thinking.

[Anonymous No.11338218]

Meaning of life is for fags. Having no meaning means you are truly free, as in you are able to build whatever life you please.

[Anonymous No.11338220]

>>11338210
why the fuck are you telling me this when you're the one who came here asking if you should embrace ignorance because your a depressed faggot?

[Anonymous No.11339598]

>>11338218

Good cope, having no meaning is living life at your lessest. Freedom is a joke, nothing but escapism.

The only thing that'll see you ''free'' is taking responsibility and struggling towards something you deem worth achieving. The rest is new age bullshit made by defacto gurus trying to sell you their book.

[Anonymous No.11339645]

>>11339598
Creating a meaning for your own life =/= finding the meaning of existence. There is no meaning, reason, or explicit goal. You simply reiterated what I said by saying that building whatever life you please makes you free.

[Anonymous No.11339651]

>>11339645
>There is no meaning, reason, or explicit goal
citations/sources/evidence needed

[Anonymous No.11339677]

No, you drive yourself forward embracing the truth that you stated. Embrace THE DAY, & you WILL BE SAVED

[Anonymous No.11339680]

>>11339677
why is this a sad truth? It makes me happy. Happy that one day I will eat something that's not even plant, happy to climb everest. Happy for that next experiment. Happy that in the most dangerous experiment you're fighting for those you love

[Anonymous No.11339684]

>>11339680
You're fighting death. It's not even nature. You're fighting to keep yourself ALIVE to achieve your VALUES & find nirvana in this life

[Anonymous No.11339691]

>>11339645

That's like saying there is no heartbeat on a rock, or there is no erection on the clouds nor envy on the waterfalls. Stop assigning human qualities and aspects to the cosmos. Why do you do this?

[Anonymous No.11339694]

>>11339651
As far as we know.*

A tool find a job easily as it is made for that purpose. A man struggles to find meaning, are we made for any purpose?

[Anonymous No.11339706]

>>11339694
You are to live your life never for the purpose of any other man nor to ask another man to live their life for you.

[Anonymous No.11339707]

Stop bumping the juvenile musings of an underage b&.

[Anonymous No.11339710]

>>11339706

I'll leave for another man if I feel like it, faggot. Not that I would since thats gay, but still.

[Anonymous No.11339714]

>>11339706
this is THE PURPOSE & MEANING OF LIFE

[Anonymous No.11339727]

>>11339714
the beneing of (the) li(b)e

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