/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.11330731]

Hello /sci/

I want to make a monument to myself which I want to last for as long as possible (hundreds of thousands of years, if possible), so that no matter what happens, this piece of my own creation will be there for as long as possible. It's sort of a life project, so money is only a relative problem.

I was thinking concrete, with metal bars in it, like most other constructions. Not sure tho.

The final monument needs to:
- last very very long
- be virtually immovable (so that no pesky future people can't remove it or even destroy it)
- be able to be get some sort of scripture in it so i can put my name there

Any ideas/tips?

[Anonymous No.11330743]

>>11330731
>I was thinking concrete, with metal bars in it,
Already blew it. Rebar is what causes the decay. Romans did not use rebar.

[Anonymous No.11330747]

>>11330731
>metal bars in it
This actually makes shoter lasting structures because the metal oxidizes and everything falls to shit.
The longest lasting concrete structures have all 'collapsed' but they are built in a way that collapsing still leaves a stable structure. Its mostly chance. Builders of antiquity did use some techniques that work better for long duration building than what we use today but the majority of ancient buildings did fall down, the ones we have the ones that just happened to be luckily perfect at not doing so.

Anyway no; time destroys everything alarmingly fast your best bet is to get all newage and convince yourself your actions echo through eternity or something.

Gigantic penis shaped spaceship sent out into deep space would do the trick, but then who would see it?

[Anonymous No.11330749]

>>11330743
So just concrete then? Would casting something out of metal (probably copper) work?

[Anonymous No.11330751]

>>11330731
>concrete, with metal bars
Haha, no. Want it to last? Make it entirely of plastic.

[Anonymous No.11330757]

>>11330749
someone would steal it for scrap to pay for meth

[Anonymous No.11330762]

Make it big. Stop limiting your options and start thinking outside the box.

[Anonymous No.11330763]

>>11330731
Tantalum is the patrician choice.

[Anonymous No.11330766]

>>11330751
Plastic might work, but I fear it would be too light/easily removed

[Anonymous No.11330768]

>>11330731
do something so ridiculously stupid and cringeworthy it becomes an immortal meme forever propagated trough sentient beings brains.

You sound like you can actually do it.

[Anonymous No.11330772]

>>11330766
If the structure is solid plastic it could easily weigh multiple tonnes.

[Anonymous No.11330773]

>>11330731
>I want to make a monument to myself
So the structure is going to be a statue of your likeness? Or something a bit more abstract (like the pyramids for the pharaohs)?

[Anonymous No.11330782]

what about putting a gigantic solar shade in orbit that spells your name?

[Anonymous No.11330797]

>>11330731
Better than concrete go to a very arid area and find some extremely hard rock to inscribe. Warn them about porn.

[Anonymous No.11330803]

>>11330797
>Warn them about porn.
Also Jews.

[Anonymous No.11330809]

>>11330731
Excavate it underneath a mountain in solid bedrock. Make the entrance be well below ground level. Once erosion has eaten away at the mountain and plate tectonics lifted the entrance to your cave above ground level, rains washed the silt and mud away, the cave will be discovered. This will happen well after our civilization is long forgotten. Anything you want to bury you should crate up and have at least a few feet of solid water resistant concrete around the crates. This way there is a chance it will survive. Anything you want to store that has metal in it, I suggest you submerge in oil inside sealed stainless steel tanks.

[Anonymous No.11330810]

>>11330773
Im thinking a primitive shape of some sort, like pyramids yeah. Details would easily whither away

[Anonymous No.11330814]

>>11330810
You need to establish more defined parameters before anyone here can really help you.
>size
>shape
>location
>any restrictions

[Anonymous No.11330818]

>>11330731
You gonna die and be forgotten, Bezos, ya faggit haha

[Anonymous No.11330819]

>>11330818
Bezos could easily make a space monument on the moon if he actually gave a shit.

[Anonymous No.11330826]

>>11330819
no one would see it there. Bezos can have a bust of himself lauched into intergalactic space for all I care.

No one will remember him or his asshatery

LOL

[Anonymous No.11330832]

>>11330826
>No one will remember him or his asshatery
Except that isn't true at all, and not only is he already guaranteed to be included in future textbooks (across many different disciplines), but there is a good chance Amazon, and their space exploration ventures, will span the rest of foreseeable history barring an extinction event.

[Anonymous No.11330836]

>>11330814
Well, the original idea I planned on simply buying some land somewhere in my country, in a place where noone really lives or cares about (decrease chances of any living people trying to stop me/whatever), and then make a maybe 20x20x20m monument out of concrete. But seeing the ideas already in the thread I think there's some improvements to be made, it needs to be larger and sturdyer.

I want to do it on my own though, and it obviously needs to be scaleable work, like the more i work on it the better it becomes. The biggest problem I think is the logistics, transporting concrete to fill only 20x20x20m in a remote place would be quite a task, as an example

[Anonymous No.11330839]

>>11330832
lol
are you happy now, that you have found Bezos?
Are you never alone, because Bezos is always with you?

[Anonymous No.11330842]

>>11330839
How is the creeping schizophrenia treating you?

[Anonymous No.11330847]

>>11330842
How is jacking off to pictures of Bezos treating you?

[Anonymous No.11330938]

>>11330836
You should source the aggregate and water locally, only need to transport the cement.

Look into compacted earth for internal structure. much cheaper and more available than concrete. They used it for internals of the great wall of China, and that is still standing.

[Anonymous No.11330960]

>>11330836
literally anything you do exposed to the elements will eventually be weathered away. It'd have to be plated in titanium to resist erosion for even the rest of your lifetime. If you bury it or put it in a giant stone box it'd survive a lot longer. Look into this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mausoleum_of_the_First_Qin_Emperor
It's believed the mausoleum is perfectly preserved at the moment, so they haven't opened it yet because they don't want to damage anything. They're waiting until they have the technology to preserve it.

[Anonymous No.11330990]

>>11330762
This is probably the best option if you want it to really last. You could even try to influence the wildlife to ensure longevity.
Or do something crazy like modifying the DNA of some creature to encode your name. Mutation would fuck it up, so you'd need some redundancy.

[Anonymous No.11330991]

I would say literature last longer than any other media.

We still have some works from summerian regarding literature and there's works like the bible who comes from literal thousands of years.

I'm sure shakespeare will be remembered for as long as humans have emotions.

[Anonymous No.11331006]

How long would a granite statue covered in a thick layer of plastic last? Plastic coated titanium tablet/stele?

[Anonymous No.11331008]

>>11331006
art is probabely the cheapest path to inmortality.

any monument can easily be destroyed by something in the future.

[Anonymous No.11331038]

The oldest structures in the universe are all spherical. Over a very long time period all 'large' collections of physical matter will inevitably approach this shape. Gravity is the adhesive, just find enough material and she will do the rest.

If you want to make a monument, create a planet and leave your name on it by creating some self replicating/propagating 'signature'.

[Anonymous No.11331039]

/diy/

[Anonymous No.11331170]

>>11330731
some guy in Egypt had the same idea a while ago, just do the same, preferably also in Egypt

[Anonymous No.11332242]

>>11330731
>Any ideas/tips?
get inspiration from the Watts Towers. Built by one man, at one time declared a public eyesore, city tried to use cranes to remove them. It did not go well, hahaha! Read about it here
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watts_Towers

[Anonymous No.11332325]

>>11330731
If it ain't broke don't fix it, pyramids.

[Anonymous No.11332404]

>>11332242
That's hilarious! This dude was utterly based!
>He was forty-two, barely literate, unskilled beyond the basic tasks from a life of labor. To this day no one is sure why, but in 1921 he began to build "something big." "You have to be either good good or bad bad to be remembered," he often said. "You gotta do somethin' they never got 'em in the world."[6] He began by digging a foundation, then made the rest up as he went along.
>The test took place on October 10, 1959.[8] For the test, steel cable was attached to each tower and a crane was used to exert lateral force, all connected to a 'load-force' meter. The crane was unable to topple or even shift the towers with the forces applied, and the test was concluded when the crane experienced mechanical failure. Bud Goldstone and Edward Farrell were the engineer and architect leading the team. The stress test registered 10,000 lbs. The towers are anchored less than 2 feet (0.61 m) in the ground, and have been highlighted in architectural textbooks, and have changed the way some structures are designed for stability and endurance.

[Anonymous No.11332630]

>>11330803
>>11330797
Based and truth-pilled.

[Anonymous No.11333113]

>>11330743
idiot

[Anonymous No.11333130]

>>11330731
>I want to make a monument to myself which I want to last for as long as possible (hundreds of thousands of years, if possible)
>I was thinking concrete, with metal bars in it, like most other constructions.

Based retard. Concrete with bars doesn't even last 50 years

[Anonymous No.11333133]

>>11330731
Cast a colossal statue of solid titanium-tungsten alloy.

[Anonymous No.11334007]

>>11330731
Fill it with high level radioactive waste so that nobody can get to it.
This was also suggested for the wall against Mexico.

[Anonymous No.11334267]

>>11330731
Just spitballing here but, maybe instead of leaving something physical maybe you should immortalize yourself in the minds of the people. That way it can never be destroyed or stolen. Some sort of event maybe. I think the best way is to commit some type of mass tragedy, preferrably at some type of educational institution for minors.

[Anonymous No.11334292]

>>11334267
In 10 000 years that will, at best, be a legend of some sort

[Anonymous No.11334307]

>>11330731
>concrete
Worst possible material.

Just use stone. Get a huge stone a carve it. Sure it will be a natural thing, you won't have "made" it (except for the carving) but it will last.

[Anonymous No.11334313]

>>11330797
>>11330803
>porn

https://files.catbox.moe/2ditdz.webm

https://files.catbox.moe/19llsd.webm

[Anonymous No.11334317]

>>11330731
give the world a knowledge, the only thing that can't be stolen or forgotten if it's useful enough!

other than that, taking a class in chemistry might help you decide the stone you will use because you don't want to be pic related

[Anonymous No.11334319]

>>11330731
Have children.

[Anonymous No.11334321]

>>11330766
nope, nature and science are already evolving and producing microbes that break down plastics
unless you can figure out how to print your name image or something else onto every tiny elemental part of plastic

[Anonymous No.11334322]

[Anonymous No.11334369]

>>11334292
That's still pretty good, I mean if he built a statue of somesort there's always the chance that at some point that location's gonna get nuked.

[Anonymous No.11334382]

>>11334267
Ooh and maybe have a cool nickname or something, I mean look at Jack The Ripper; he's still remembered to this day.

[Anonymous No.11334386]

>>11334382
And Black Beard!

[Anonymous No.11334398]

>>11330731
>>11331006
>granite

This is the only true (yet expensive) option. That or perhaps some aluminum alloy that will withstand tarnishing.

Get a big quarried slab of granite and make sure you put in on a foundation that's as solid as it. Build away from tectonic plates and extreme changes in temperature. I would even go as far as to build some sort of roof structure above it that will last as long. If you want to think big then thing horizontal not vertical. Vertical and pure stone does get along. Perhaps some sort of walkway/patterned arrangement. Think stonehenge.

[Anonymous No.11334415]

>>11334398
Forgot to add that concrete won't last more than probably 200 years. Rebar will destroy it and it itself will weather and turn to sand. Eventually it'll be as weak as Styrofoam. Concrete is like a big hard sponge. It wicks water and will hold it in, partly cause it relies on water initially, unlike say an igneous rock which is formed with other melted rocks and pressurized so there are less air gaps for water to wick.

It all comes down to the water. How resistant is it to the most damaging force of nature?

[Anonymous No.11334420]

>>11330810
Then it is really simple:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znQk_yBHre4

[Anonymous No.11335845]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/tldr/2018/2/20/17031836/jeff-bezos-clock-10000-year-cost..
Jefus is ahead you

[Anonymous No.11335848]

>>11330766
just make it fukken epic huge cause plastic is cheap, also easy to work with. something 100' high is unstealable as all fuck. plastic decays slower than about anything else too, the great wall of china isn't even that old and it need tons of work, plastic one might still be around in 10k years or more

[Anonymous No.11337362]

>>11330731
>I was thinking concrete, with metal bars in it

[Anonymous No.11338785]

>>11334415
>Forgot to add that concrete won't last more than probably 200 years.
We have concrete saltwater structures built by Romans, 2000 years ago.

[Anonymous No.11340217]

>>11330731
Find a graveyard in a state with laws that satisfy two conditions:
>graveyards are off limits to property developers, until the world ends
>relatively novel headstones such as statues are permitted
Maybe also
>can purchase a grave and have a blank headstone installed before one's death
In any case, you would make the casket as large as possible and connect the headstone to the casket as securely as possible. Installing the casket-headstone would probably require a crane.

[Anonymous No.11340243]

>>11338785
With a recipe for concrete that has long been lost. Concrete was lost and rediscovered a dozen times between then and now. Modern, store-bought concrete will not last.

[Anonymous No.11342101]

>>11340243
Did that include salt water resistant concrete?