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When we look at notable people in mathematics and physics, they are often born from wealthy or above average intelligence parents, which makes sense considering intelligence is for the most part a genetic trait. How was Gauss so smart considering he was born from working class parents with no notable family members on either side of the family? A freak mutation? Do we have other cases like him?

>> No.11322361

>>11322354
>which makes sense considering intelligence is for the most part a genetic trait.

yes that is true in general.
I think other example could be Faraday

>> No.11322362

>>11322354
Ramanujan

>> No.11322384

>>11322354
You are a big boi OP, I'm sure you can answer yourself

>> No.11322391

>>11322354
>they are often born from wealthy or above average intelligence parents, which makes sense considering intelligence is for the most part a genetic trait.
That's probably only correlated because if they are rich, they are free to follow their intellectual pursuits. Most of the kids of actual geniuses or successful people end up being losers.

>> No.11322395

>>11322391
>Most of the kids of actual geniuses or successful people end up being losers.

Any proof of this?

>> No.11322414

>>11322395
Of course I don't have proof, but how many of the kids of geniuses throughout history do you remember or even know? Sure, their kids will be "successful" because their parents often set them up, but they certainly aren't geniuses in the same sense in almost all cases, and their achievements pale in comparison.

>> No.11322487

>>11322354
The way an urban economy works is to suck all the talented and intelligent people from the entire society and concentrate them in one small location, generating absurd wealth. This is a bit like wringing out a wet cloth. In the beginning you get lots of water, but soon it starts to dry up.

When this was first happening to Europe you had lots of cases like this with people from very mediocre backgrounds becoming wild successes, but it's less so in the modern world. The population pools in America and Europe are largely tapped. We are seeing this happening in Asia and India though, you have some individuals from very poor peasant backgrounds rising to become the leaders of major corporations and university professors.

>> No.11323783

>>11322362
came to post this. not only was he damned by being born a poo, he was also dirt poor

>> No.11323802

>>11322362
what exactly did Ramanujan prove or discover that revolutionized math? He was just good at calculating shit, not a revolutionary thinker.

>> No.11323807

>>11322354
Newton was also dirt poor in his youth. He got rich only after he published his works and he gained fame as a scientist.

>> No.11323810 [DELETED] 

>>11323802
For a subhuman non-white, that's remarkable enough.

>> No.11323814

>>11322354
It is called evolution.

>> No.11323830

>>11322354
Abel, Faraday

>> No.11323832

>>11323814
No, it's not you stupid nigger.

>> No.11323847

>>11323807
False. He went to school which was much more than could be said for the majority of children at that time period.

>> No.11323857

>>11323832
It is called evolution my friend.

>> No.11323963

>>11323847
He worked as a servant for other students while he was in school. He had to earn his own money.

>> No.11323979

>>11323963
So what you're saying is that he was in the top 10% percent lucky children not the top 5 % lucky children.

>> No.11323990

reading about all these poor men who ended up making genius contributions despite their poverty and disadvantage kinda puts a hole in the "women made few contributions due to patriarchal oppression" theory, I mean Ramanujan certainly had it worse than a whole lot of victorian women.

anyway OP, here's a blogpost on this exact question

https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2018/08/14/gaussian-anomaly/

tldr; maybe his dad was a cuck

>> No.11324055

>>11323990
>"women made few contributions due to patriarchal oppression" theory
Was that ever a plausible theory? Even the most well-off women would rather spend their time gossiping over tea with their vapid friends instead of studying math, even though they might have had huge libraries at their disposal in their parents' house.

>> No.11324116

>>11322487
and then they stop breeding...so the population average actually declines

>> No.11324126

>>11322354
Banach was a pleb bastard and largely self taught.

>> No.11324138

>>11324116
https://pastebin.com/npygRMBQ

>> No.11324192

The part of the brain that deals with math is also used for language, music, and other applications. It's possible that it is dormant in the parents. It's also possible that freak mutations can allow the brain to supercharge in this one area - neural connections or calculation speed or whatever.

>> No.11324247

>>11322395
reddit af

>> No.11324312

>>11322395
hunter biden

>> No.11324775

>>11322354
Except the genetic thing in a sample size of the same local population is a big meme. Genetics only matters when talking about races

>> No.11324793
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11324793

>>11324312
>billionaire
>didn't even have to work for it
>loser
no, you are the loser. he is the winner because he has all the money that he stole.

>> No.11325185

>>11322354
>When we look at notable people in mathematics and physics, they are often born from wealthy or above average intelligence parents, which makes sense considering intelligence is for the most part a genetic trait
You mean, which makes sense since for the vast majority of human history there was zero social mobility and only the children of the wealthy were educated

>> No.11325261

>>11323802
A little Vaseline should ease your butthurt. He revolutionized the theorem of infinite fractions not to mention non linear co fractal idiogeometrical formulas which are still trying to be solved as of today.

>> No.11325435

>>11322354
>How was Gauss so smart considering he was born from working class parents with no notable family members on either side of the family?
Untapped potential existed in vast amounts in the olden days. In modern times, university admittance is based on meritocracy, and therefore everyone who has the interest and capacity to venture into science may do so. However, this does not mean that everyone has an equal chance; obviously, the offspring of people who made use of their intellectual capacity (who now inhabit urban areas and work in jobs demanding intellectual capacity and expertise) are more likely to be smart than the offspring of people who did not manage to climb the ladder despite public education being offered to all children for almost a hundred years in both the US and Europe.

tl;dr: everyone smart has already taken advantage of the largely meritocratic modern societal model. Back in the days of Gauss, being smart COULD afford you great opportunities, but it require some luck, due to an unavailability of good tertiary education and a meritocratic educational system.