/slg/ Self-Learning General

[Anonymous No.11306712]

Welcome to the /slg/, the place to discuss what parts of /sci/ people are working on learning, discuss progress, give recommendations etc.

Brainlets tolerated.

Previous Bread: >>???

So what is /sci/ learning this time?

[Anonymous No.11306722]

>>11306712
>self learning
>give recommendations
Okay. See pic.

[Anonymous No.11306764]

What's up with meme terms like "self-learning" or "self teaching"?
Just call it studying.

[Anonymous No.11306772]

I just got back into math shit and am starting from the bottom. All I have (that's physical) is some shitty Pearson Pre-calc book. Anyone got anything worth a damn that won't make my bank account scream obscenities at me?

[Anonymous No.11306774]

Self learning because I can't understand my prof indian accent

[Anonymous No.11306776]

>>11306764
Memes make the world go round. Plus, studying sounds less grandiose and grandeur is already something that's lacking from the /sci/ life. Can't hurt to spice things up a bit.
>>11306774
What class?

[Anonymous No.11306780]

Apologies for the blog post.
I'm a combat medic, wanted to become a GP for a while but I came to the unfortunate conclusion that it's not going to be possible as I'd need a degree just to get into studying medicine. Time just isn't on my side.
I've always enjoyed reading about radiation but never studied physics. At work I asked two GP's a question about the effects of radiation on the body and the first said I should speak to a physicist. The second just said he didn't know. Very disappointing.
I bought a book about radiation and it discussed lots of areas of physics, and I loved it.
I'm going to self teach physics, try get an A level in it, then look at nuclear engineering. I found that the job of radiological protection engineer was a thing and it's what I'm going to aim for.
Without sounding cliche, reading about physics has actually increased my medical knowledge. I feel as if my eyes have been opened, the same way I felt learning about primary healthcare after only really being taught emergency medicine.

[Anonymous No.11306781]

>>11306776
Discrete math 2

[Anonymous No.11306799]

>>11306780
What kind of time frame are you looking at?

[Anonymous No.11306810]

>>11306781
Dear fucking god. Is the textbook at least reliable for that class?

[Anonymous No.11306841]

>>11306799
I can study an A level in a year and the army will pay for my degree if I leave because I've done over 6 years. Realistically, I could start the degree in 2 years.

[Anonymous No.11306902]

I really enjoyed undergraduate abstract algebra. I would like to continue learning it more, but I am not a math major, so it would probably need to be on my own time. I'd like to revisit it with a better textbook (Lang?) and start looking into some specific topics. Any anons have advice on this matter?

[Anonymous No.11306927]

the meson factories by los alamos

[Anonymous No.11306959]

I unconsciously started taking notes as if I was writing some scripts but now I don't want to change it because then it would look weird. Anyone have experience with curbing autism?

[Anonymous No.11306962]

>>11306810
I think so, it helped me in discrete 1

[Anonymous No.11307096]

Halfway through pic related

[Anonymous No.11307335]

>>11307096
How long ago did you start on it?

[Anonymous No.11307361]

>>11307335
>How long ago did you start on it?
It's a six year program, so three years ago.

[Anonymous No.11307459]

Going through The Calculus by Leithold. Pic related took me like 10 minutes to do. I'm about to finish the first section but gosh, I get bored easily

[Anonymous No.11307516]

>>11307459
Did it take you ten minutes to do the problem or did it take you nine and a half minutes just to focus?

[Anonymous No.11307530]

>>11306712
>So what is /sci/ learning this time?
Becoming a Wizard

[Anonymous No.11307545]

>>11307530
This is unironically my /fit/ goal

[Anonymous No.11307602]

>>11307545
MIne is Apocalypse mode.

[Anonymous No.11307643]

>>11306962

not terrible overall. the whole book could be condensed into a 70 page pocket manual though.
i like self-learning but it's hard to find the motivation for it. unfortunately with adhd it's always at the expense of something i *should* be doing. although i don't think my career will really go anywhere without some decent base of math in the first place.

sometimes i just don't know what i should be doing.

[Anonymous No.11307792]

>>11306722
Nothing.
>>11306772
Precalc in a nutshell I liked, another Anon recommended it was like $4 on eBay. Cheap paper book though.

[Anonymous No.11307813]

>>11306772
Can't you just pick up an older copy of Stewart for like 10 bucks

[Anonymous No.11307844]

>>11307813
I'm not savvy when it comes to textbooks.

[Anonymous No.11307899]

>>11307813
I got the 4th edition for about tree fidy

[Anonymous No.11307919]

>>11307899
That's when I realized the seller was a fifty foot tall crustacean from the Paleolithic era

[Anonymous No.11308280]

>>11307516
To do the problem.

[Anonymous No.11308290]

>>11306712
Morning fellow wizards.
Currently going through a book called CSAPP in hopes that I get good grip on computer programming.
otherwise medfag by trade

[Anonymous No.11308293]

>>11308290
Well, don't forget you also have to learn a language to write scripts and programs in. Though a secondary recommendation I'd throw your way is The Pragmatic Programmer. I'm fairly sure it's on the /g/entooman library archive.

[Anonymous No.11308311]

>>11308293
Ive already been through few C books which is in line with csapp and I dont have issue with writing programs.
My favorite was programming in C by Kochan and I skipped K&R.
I usually dont follow guides for more than overview of what knowledge is needed because through my medical studies I learned to recognize a good textbook from a mile away.
I may give it a read in the future but not now since there are so much more technicalities i need to understand before i dive in philosophy.

[Anonymous No.11308328]

>>11306959
Fellow autist here. Just copy the notes and make changes to one of them. If notes are handwritten, do a photocopy and change the original. Alternatively just write a new document while keeping the old as reference or inspiration.

[Anonymous No.11308456]

>>11306712
More /lit/ than /sci/, but still very relevant and useful.

[Anonymous No.11309160]

>>11308456
>How to Read a Book
>As a book
I know what that book is supposed to be, but there's something about that that's not quite irony but still makes me smile inside.

[Anonymous No.11309550]

>>11307096

is there something like this for dumb people who fucked off in school and can't even do multiplication past 6? Like start us at 3rd grade and bring us to this list.

[Anonymous No.11310087]

>>11309550
Honestly I'd start off by memorizing your multiplication and division tables, and then just doing the Khan Academy courses until you get to a high school level. It's not that hard to pick up.

[Anonymous No.11310111]

>>11310087
Not to mention, in math it's all about the concepts. If you can multiply 4*7 you can do 47*65. As long as he had those basic concepts he can go quite far.

[Anonymous No.11310113]

[Anonymous No.11310235]

b u m p

[Anonymous No.11310402]

Friendly reminder that Lang IS NOT a meme

[Anonymous No.11310404]

>>11310113
wat game

[Anonymous No.11310406]

>>11310404
Boku no Pico

[Anonymous No.11310492]

>>11306712
Read Philosophy

It's apparent disconnect from science was an act on philosophy's part, due to a post-enlightenment disillusionment with scientific empiricism as a means to philosophical resolutions. Philosophy took off in its own way and its coming back in a nice way. Regardless learning philosophy is like building a castle to house your knowledge, and it's incredibly satisfying for anyone who bothers to engage it.
It was the only university department I've ever known to have people of other majors - physics, math, history, and the like - frequently drop their majors and switch over after taking a class.

Essential curriculum: Plato, Descartes, Hume, Kant

Wizard Curriculum: Euclid, Plato, Aristotle, Descartes, Locke, Hume, Kant

Head on over to >>>/lit/ and start your journey

[Anonymous No.11310493]

>>11310402
Lang’s Calculus books are atrocious, but the Basic Math book is kino if you are a burnout retard needing a quick path to Calc (with a better textbook than Lang’s treatment of the subject).

[Anonymous No.11310619]

>>11310492
Don't try and steal people from /sci/, we're slow enough as is.

[Anonymous No.11311673]

12 hours a day monkmode for a week, social media/4chan/youtube/other distractions disabled. Let's do it bros!

[Anonymous No.11311692]

>>11311673
I will join in on this! I need to start studying for this semester!

[Anonymous No.11311697]

Teachings myself Quantum Mechanics using Griffiths book.
Found a nice series of lectures on youtube to go along with it : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNIEAv633WRg4ubBIhOcwMg

[Anonymous No.11311713]

>>11307096
>Sheaves

[Anonymous No.11311724]

>>11311673
I am joining in on this! From sunday to sunday!

[Anonymous No.11311746]

>>11311724
Good! I will make a thread next Sunday to see how well anons did on this challenge and what we have learned.

[Anonymous No.11311768]

>>11309550
Yeah. Start on Khanacademy and go through their grade 1 or KG maths tutorials, and keep leveling up until you reach high school maths. Then pick these books up.

[Anonymous No.11312086]

Currently doing the Andrew Ng machine learning course, will take something related to deep learning afterwards while also reading some book about the shiniest ML python libraries so I don't reinvent the wheel too much.

[Anonymous No.11312132]

>>11311673
Challenge accepted.

[Anonymous No.11312275]

>>11311746
Great!

[Anonymous No.11312384]

learning through Khan Academy. 1/3 of the way done with the Algebra 1 course. Learning much better than i did when i was in highschool over a decade ago, and really enjoying it all. Going to learn as much math as i can, but im really interested in studying physics and organic chemistry. What sort of math should i have under my belt before starting physics?

[Anonymous No.11312434]

>>11312384
For basic high-school and college level physics you'll want at least a firm grasp on algebra 2 and not be completely lost on geometry

[Anonymous No.11312440]

>>11309160
>>11308456
>How to Read a Book
Now that's the kind of thing I would love to keep on a shelf.

[Anonymous No.11312445]

>>11307096
What is mg in that filename?

>>11310087
Do people actually memorise the tables? I've always just calculated them on the fly.

[Anonymous No.11312449]

>>11311673
I'm not even at home for 12 hours a day unless you count time sleeping.

[Anonymous No.11312450]

>>11311673
>>11311724
>>11311746
>>11312275

Why larp?

[Anonymous No.11312455]

>>11312434
No sweat. thanks for the tip anon

[Anonymous No.11312458]

>>11312450
I actually do regularly study 8-12 hours, its not too difficult, I did just that yesterday and the day before.

[Anonymous No.11312492]

>>11312458
that isn't monk mode...that's called being a student.

[Anonymous No.11312501]

>>11312458
me too, I usually get in at least 8 hours of studying a day. just get a good night's sleep, have a coffee, make breakfast (eggs, toast, orange juice, first dose of adderall) and i blaze through it. not sure what other people's issue is desu

[Anonymous No.11312520]

>>11312445
>what is mg in that filename
/mg/ Math General

[Anonymous No.11312722]

>>11312440
the book is based af. completely changed how I read. it's not boring either, quite fun

[Anonymous No.11312835]

>>11312722
I might actually take a look then

[Anonymous No.11312888]

>>11312835
it was probably the single most important book I read in 2019 besides SIEGE by James Mason

[Anonymous No.11313035]

>>11306902
Dover has Jacobson's Basic Algebra in two volumes. The second volume is apparently much harder than the first, but may be appropriate for your level. I've heard good things about Vinberg's A Course in Algebra. For excellent problems, consult I. N. Herstein's Topics in Algebra. gl.

[Anonymous No.11313085]

>>11307096
How well are you able to recall what have you learned?

[Anonymous No.11313781]

>>11313035
Does the second volume at least follow up from the end of the first?

[Anonymous No.11315623]

currently in college for Electrical Installation, not long started the electrical science module, I'm grasping the basic V/I/R and P/I/V formulas in series and parallel circuits, but finding things like total resistance in combined Series-Parallel Circuits are JUSTING me rn on which formula to use on which points

[Anonymous No.11315641]

>>11306764
You could just call it learning.

[Anonymous No.11315672]

>>11312492
*good student

and I fail to see the difference since I’m studying material that isn’t immediately pertinent to my classes.

[Anonymous No.11315698]

>>11312501
>dose of adderall
>not sure what other people's issue is desu
are you being ironic?

[Anonymous No.11315717]

How can I manage/limit ocd without ssris.

[Anonymous No.11317272]

>>11315717
I think that's a question for a different thread...

[Anonymous No.11317810]

>>11306712
I'm just tryna be purple on Codeforces, blue rn.
Anyone willing to help me out?

[Anonymous No.11318134]

>>11306712
I'm a 19 year old who's gonna complete highschool soon. Never was a good student but I want to change my ways. Whats a good way and place to start self learning?

[Anonymous No.11318285]

Are the Gelfand books good?

[Anonymous No.11319061]

>>11318285
No.

[Anonymous No.11319158]

>>11306764
The point of calling it self learning is to make it more about learning for the purpose of improving yourself. Studying in today's world almost always means studying for a class.

[Anonymous No.11319222]

How realistic would it be to follow the plan in pic related, as opposed to >>11307096 or following Khan Academy like >>11311768 said?

I'm good enough at highschool math to pass a test, but not enough to ace one or to really understand in depth what I'm doing.

[Anonymous No.11319260]

>>11319222
It looks 'nice'.
I would honestly recommend something with more structure. Its a personal autism preference but its nicer to have everything you need in one book or unit of things.

If you are just starting out with maths, unironically look into Lang's basic mathematics. but if you think that its a meme I strongly suggest you try working through the English GSCE then A Level in Mathematics (and finally Further Mathematics - one step further from A level maths). Theres lots of notes online and almost definitely good lectures and videos on youtube. Not to mention the large number of past papers online too.

I considered doing above however Ive take a slightly different route but its essentially the same content in a structured way. I would have done above if I had more time.

[Anonymous No.11319269]

>>11319260
Oh, and once youve finished up to further mathematics A level, you can start with the following:

Core
>Tao Analysis I&II
>Hoffman & Kunze Linear Algebra

Further
>Willard Topology (Dover)
>Jacobson Algebra I&II
>Knuth Concrete Mathematics

Further
>Applied Math / Methods (ODEs/PDEs)
>Numerical Analysis
>Algebraic/Differential Topology/Geometry

[Anonymous No.11319276]

>>11319269
Might want to add:
>Stein & Shakarchi Princeton Lectures in Analysis I-IV

[Anonymous No.11319915]

>>11318134
Anyone? please?

[Anonymous No.11320008]

Trying to self study Genetics + Biochem + Medicinal Chemistry to properly understand my genetic disease and avenues to cure it renders me wheelchair bound

[Anonymous No.11320017]

>>11320008
What problem you got champ?

[Anonymous No.11320042]

>>11320017

Bethlem Myopathy. It's a COL VI disorder, it's like Ullrich but not as severe.

It's a lot rarer and less severe than say Duchennes. Mechanism is also different - results from mutations on your collagen 6 gene.

[Anonymous No.11320058]

>>11319915
What kind of advice are you looking for? How to study in general?

[Anonymous No.11320083]

>>11320058
Yeah, I would like to start from the basics. Whats the best way to self-study? What beginner books would someone interested in math and physics read? and the like. Everyone on /sci/ seem to be highly knowledgeable so it feels hard to communicate.

[Anonymous No.11320144]

>>11320083
If you're a highschool failure, you're not looking for the basics of math you're looking for the basics of accomplishing things. No shame in that, we can all improve ourselves in that regard. You need to identify why you didn't do well in highschool first, and try to remedy that. Was it lack of interest? Procrastination? Difficulty staying focused? Most people who do poorly in HS suffer from one of those, and only you can know what your reason is for not doing well. If you spent hours of focused, dedicated study time and still did poorly... You're probably lying. The number of retards out there who study hard and still fail is low, but there are a ton of people who lie to themselves about how dedicated they are to learning. If I'm right, read some books first about how to study, how to create habits, how to improve mental fortitude, and maybe think about seeing a doctor for ADD.

If I'm wrong and you really just need somewhere to start learning math and you think you can really dedicate yourself to learning it, I'd start at Khan academy's elementary school maths and work your way up till you have a good grasp on highschool math. Then you can start looking at physics.

[Anonymous No.11320177]

>>11310492
>Read Philosophy
I ain't got time for that shit. Summarize it.

[Anonymous No.11320183]

Currently looking to study physics on my own time, does anybody have some book recommendations?

[Anonymous No.11320186]

>>11310492

Philosphy is mental masturbation, fit for neurotics and intellectual cuckolds

[Anonymous No.11320202]

Does anyone else ever have the experience where you're reading about some subject you've only ever had a passing understanding of, or maybe considered confusing in the past, and suddenly you stumble upon an explanation of some element of the subject that is absolutely crucial to understanding the essence of the subject, but for some reason is never included in quick rundowns of the subject? I swear this happens to me frequently.

For example, I'm pretty sure I'd read about various forms of set theory in quite some depth before I ever encountered the idea that set theory encodes higher level concepts such as numbers as recursive combinations of sets using the empty set as a terminator. Once I realized that set theory suddenly made a lot more sense than ever before, but for some reason that important detail is always buried deep in the middle of a bunch of bullshit nobody cares about.

[Anonymous No.11320205]

>>11320042
>Bethlem Myopathy
Ah shit, sorry to hear that anon. As you're on 4chan, I'm gonna guess you're young. If so, hang on it there until gene editing comes about. Or even when we reach the singularity. And save up cash, because you're gonna need that. A quick look says it's progressive but slow, so you have time.

[Anonymous No.11320305]

>>11320202
>Does anyone else ever have the experience where you're reading about some subject you've only ever had a passing understanding of, or maybe considered confusing in the past, and suddenly you stumble upon an explanation of some element of the subject that is absolutely crucial to understanding the essence of the subject, but for some reason is never included in quick rundowns of the subject? I swear this happens to me frequently.

All the time. It's an amazing moment when it happens though, don't you agree. Suddenly it all makes sense. It's part of learning imo. I remember when I was young and it suddenly made sense what Einstein gravity meant.

[Anonymous No.11320638]

>>11320205

Yeah I'm not going to bank on gene therapy coming any time soon. Regulations and such will keep me from a cure for conservatively about 20 years unless I can enter a clinical trial. And the other types of MD get first priority in finding a cure.

So I'd like to get involved in research because it's actually an obscure enough area where I could possibly make a relative impact. I just dunno where to start. I have a background in chem. If there's a potential small molecule remidy that would be the best case scenario, but the pathology of the disease makes that less likely (in my amateur understanding). Then there's biologics (which I don't know shit about).And finally Gene therapy is the most obvious remedy but again, will have to wait and twiddle my thumbs for a while unless I try and enter the biotech sphere and get the ball rolling myself.

So that's my motive. But I'm also a college dropout who's not going back until the fall. Even with a completed B.S. a lot of this stuff is grad level material so I'm trying to self study. But it can be tough. Really understanding a rare disease requires knowledge at the interface of biochem, genetics, and organic chemistry.

[Anonymous No.11320693]

>>11320638
Hang on in there anon.

>I just dunno where to start.

At the expense of sounding dumb, have you contacted the leading researchers who have published stuff on Bethlem Myopathy? I would, contact them and ask if you can volunteer. Then, you can slowly absorb everything they say and you can get their knowledge. Not only will you be at the cutting edge of the condition but you'll save yourself a ton of time trying to understand it when they can give you what you seek.

Also, I have to say that you sound very determined. And if there's one thing that guarantees success, it's hard fucking work. So keep chipping away. Make a plan of what you need to do - write shit down. Write down what you want to do. And then go after it. Godspeed.

[Anonymous No.11320701]

>>11313035
are those yours? what kind of work do you do?

[Anonymous No.11320713]

>>11320693

Well here's the kicker: I've read a lot of research paper and all of it is outside the U.S. All of it. Probably because it only seems to crop up in Northern European DNA. It's mostly conducted by Italians, Aussies and Japan. If there are a few U.S. labs researching it they're probably medical labs. And a large chunk of THAT research is like, reporting on the symptoms of a group of patients and not focused on pathology or cure finding.

Thank for the encouragement though. I'll keep looking. I am fairly motivated but also feel like I'm completely navigating in the dark. All I know is that the prospect of doing anything else with my life, like just learning CS and having a good income, makes me really depressed. I've decided I won't be satisfied unless I'm doing something about it

[Anonymous No.11320714]

>>11319061
Why?

[Anonymous No.11320719]

>>11319269
what a shit list

[Anonymous No.11320726]

>>11320719
Any better ideas? List seems fine desu

[Anonymous No.11320741]

>>11320726
Yes but I’ve posted them so many times I’m not inclined to do so again. Use the sticky and think for yourself.

[Anonymous No.11320747]

>>11320713
>If there are a few U.S. labs researching it they're probably medical labs. And a large chunk of THAT research is like, reporting on the symptoms of a group of patients and not focused on pathology or cure finding.

Seems like the best bet then is to go deep into genetic engineering then anon. If genetic engineering really takes off it'll easily solve your issue.

> I am fairly motivated but also feel like I'm completely navigating in the dark. All I know is that the prospect of doing anything else with my life, like just learning CS and having a good income, makes me really depressed. I've decided I won't be satisfied unless I'm doing something about it

Good, because that means you have a goal in your life. Which is better than what most American (and Western) people your age have. I'm not American but British and considering how alike our countries are, it's a really good thing that you have a drive to do something. I'm gonna plug in here Viktor Frankl/Logotherapy for why it's important to have a goal in life). Personally speaking, ever since I decided to stop being a lazy arse and work, I'm much better off. Have a goal and get at it.

Keep working anon.

[Anonymous No.11320759]

What path should I follow if I want to improve my proof skills before I start my math major? I read "Book of Proof" by Hammack, then started reading Spivak's Calculus but I couldn't do 95% of the exercises, especially where he wanted proofs. Please don't meme me.

[Anonymous No.11320821]

>>11320747

Thanks. I will say that to make an actual difference it takes more than hard work. It takes so much navigation around artificial barriers and red tape in academia and in industry. There's the possibility that my disease and other rare diseases could be cured today with existing tech and it wouldn't matter because of how the biotech/pharma industry works. No matter how much I know and learn there's so many hoops and hurdles to go through just to, for example, get a startup off the ground. It is what it is though.

My plan is to finish a B.S. in Med Chem. I'd like to avoid a PhD if possible but might have to. Hard to pick a "focus" because there's so many disciplines involved in understanding something like my disease.

[Anonymous No.11320823]

>>11320741
>Yuo are so silly and worng
>Blah Bloh I not tell the answer is a secret

glazed like pottery

[Anonymous No.11320825]

>>11320759
Try simpler proof books.
Try Introduction to Pure Math by Liebeck

[Anonymous No.11321125]

>>11320759
How to prove it by Polya.

[Anonymous No.11321138]

>>11320823
get the fuck off my board nigger faggot

[Anonymous No.11321174]

>>11306764
Studying can be a term used for learning within a structure. Self learning implies self direction

[Anonymous No.11321205]

>>11306712
Ohio State University MOOCULUS calculus classes. Free, and a bargain at twice the price.