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Anonymous Wed Jan 15 18:52:37 2020 No.11304962 [Reply] [Original]

If you silently allow your fellow man and woman to be clamped, vaccinated, and circumcised, you are the cowardly creator of your own hell. You are the problem.

Time for some hard data. Science incoming.

https://www.nichd.nih.gov/newsroom/news/022719-delayed-cord-clamping
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30473033
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30278462
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30193752
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30598672
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29101631
http://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30208504
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27654493
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30355293

And you know what, here's the real problem. If it wasn't clamping the cord early, if it wasn't forced infant genital amputations, if it wasn't vitamin K and vaccinations and pitocin, it would just be something else. It really would. You would find that the underlying system would just manufacture another practice, or weaponize some other excuse to act upon the mother and child. We need to find and go after the root.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 18:54:42 2020 No.11304965 >>11304962 looks like a condom

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 18:55:50 2020 No.11304967 >>11304965 Probably been tried, who knows.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 19:13:40 2020 No.11304989 >Working on brakes yesterday >Have to depress pistons with C clamp >Have a little giggle about clamping Shine on you crazy diamond https://pastebin.com/aYNv0zFc

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 19:14:54 2020 No.11304992 delayed cord clamping is near universal natal care policy now, so why make this thread?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 19:15:07 2020 No.11304993 >>11304962 Imagine posting, day in and day out, about this stupid shit and not eventually realizing that you aren't convincing anyone of anything. KYS schizo

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 19:16:29 2020 No.11304997 >>11304992 Source? When did it become universal? If it were near universal, why is the NIH funding and carrying out clinical trials?

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Anonymous Wed Jan 15 19:22:19 2020 No.11305005

>>11304997
within the last five to ten years im guessing. https://www.acog.org/Clinical-Guidance-and-Publications/Committee-Opinions/Committee-on-Obstetric-Practice/Delayed-Umbilical-Cord-Clamping-After-Birth
>For example, the World Health Organization recommends that the umbilical cord not be clamped earlier than 1 minute after birth in term or preterm infants who do not require positive pressure ventilation. Recent Neonatal Resuscitation Program guidelines from the American Academy of Pediatrics recommend delayed umbilical cord clamping for at least 30–60 seconds for most vigorous term and preterm infants. The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists also recommends deferring umbilical cord clamping for healthy term and preterm infants for at least 2 minutes after birth. Additionally, the American College of Nurse–Midwives recommends delayed umbilical cord clamping for term and preterm infants for 2–5 minutes after birth (6).

>If it were near universal, why is the NIH funding and carrying out clinical trials?
check the very next sentence:
>The universal implementation of delayed umbilical cord clamping has raised concern. Delay in umbilical cord clamping may delay timely resuscitation efforts, if needed, especially in preterm infants.
Also, because doctors and scientists always want to know the full biological effects of a medical treatment. Just knowing "outcomes seem better" isn't enough.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 19:27:34 2020 No.11305017 >>11305005 /thread

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Anonymous Wed Jan 15 19:35:18 2020 No.11305033

>>11305005
The statement is ambiguous as to whether the practice is now universal, or is being proposed as a universal guideline. Later statements imply it still varies, should be left up to the practitioner, and no mandate has been issued. No data is provided concerning real world practices.

There is still a failure to adopt a simple "don't clamp until it's done" approach. the notion of timing is stupid and a holdover for ass covering. I can be assumed that they may clamp, and that they haven't been called out for clamping. Both are problematic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 19:39:51 2020 No.11305042 >>11305033 How can we trust you if you've been clamped?

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Anonymous Wed Jan 15 19:50:47 2020 No.11305061

>>11305042
You shouldn't blindly trust anything, and you should unravel your thinking to find implicit or hidden sources of faith. The matter of trust is more accurately, how can you trust something which clamps?

"Clamped" is a mode of a thought, a matter of ignorance and faith. Two things exist and always coupled, ignorance and evil. Where one is able to rise, the other must rise in turn. We're at a peak of each. It is far beyond time to unclamp.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 20:14:37 2020 No.11305102 File: 1.61 MB, 1920x1080, 02.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Unclamp 2020. 2020 is the beginning of 20/20 for man.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 20:24:33 2020 No.11305125 Reminder: https://pastebin.com/aYNv0zFc

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 20:30:03 2020 No.11305137 >>11305125 Unclamp.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 16 14:05:34 2020 No.11306622 >>11304962 >t. Clamped

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Anonymous Thu Jan 16 17:54:33 2020 No.11306978

Again with this clamping thing?
1. It hardly makes a difference and there's no proof or reason to believe it has a significant long term impact
2. It's becoming more and more recognised and delayed cord clamping has become the staple for most practices
3. There are far more serious issues in medicine than this (overuse of antibiotics, overuse of IVF, too many C sections etc...)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 16 19:01:25 2020 No.11307095 >>11306978 Clamp apologist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 16 19:05:05 2020 No.11307103 >>11307095 It's a trivial issue, deal with it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 16 19:08:43 2020 No.11307110 >>11307103 See the OP. It's not. They did this to several generations, they're still doing it, they've gotten away with it.

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Anonymous Fri Jan 17 00:58:21 2020 No.11307777 [DELETED]

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I'm not sure if I've made the right decisions, but simply speaking the truth is more necessary than ever, This is the end of clamp posting. Good luck to all. Remember that they clamp, and do not clamp.

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Anonymous Fri Jan 17 04:11:14 2020 No.11308046
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>>11304962
Would killing myself and telling my parents to go fuck themselves for having me circumcised be an effective way to prevent it? If parents think their kid is going to kill himself because of it one day, it might deter some parents from doing it.

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Anonymous Fri Jan 17 04:22:05 2020 No.11308068

>>11308046
Doubtful. I've come to have good reason not to believe in ripple effects, even the most short range.

I don't know how you can eradicate genital cutting from a culture, other than to get more people considering and open with their discontent or disagreement with the notion of forced medical procedures.

The notion of solving it by trying to convince a man that he should feel or see himself as "mutilated" is also not necessary, or even ideal. This is his own business. He need only realize that among what has gone on, most of it need not and ought not have. Nothing more needs to be said.