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Or does it make no difference?

This fag: https://twitter.com/cryptodemedici swears by it

>> No.11303203

>>11303183
No you need to lock your dick up in a metal box and browse /pol/ all day until you feel compelled to sacrifice your life in pursuit of a female slave

>> No.11303205

>>11303183
why would it be unhealthy? it doesn't do anything other than withholding something enjoyable from yourself. who gives a fuck. jerk off, don't. no one cares but maybe you should if you want your dick to continue working, use it or lose it anon.

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>>11303203
lol hell ya that was pretty hardcore straight through

>> No.11303211

>>11303203
>>11303205
answer question scientifically or fuck off

>> No.11303214

>>11303183
nofap, maybe

but stop watching porn, you fucking coomer
porn is 100x worse than fapping

>> No.11303215

>>11303183
wtf im redpilled now

>> No.11303266

>>11303183
nofap means little but i dont see how it would be unhealthy. however, noporn is of utmost importance.

>expelling resources which could lead to deficiencies without adequate diet
>wasting a lot of time (not so much if you don't use porn)
>like a hit of heroin, you become addicted / condition that behaviour which can lead to uncontrollable exacerbation of these other issues (not a big deal without the porn component though) and dependency
>physical damage to your dick
>rewiring yourself for unhealthy and abnormal reward mechanisms (erectile dysfunction, failed sex life and relationships). turning away from life to hide away and consoom and degrade because a balanced life is no longer enjoyable- again, not nearly as strong without the porn

>> No.11303272

>>11303266
btw there's a big diff between
>fapping to porn and thus chaining yourself to that porn
vs
>fapping to imaginative fantasy derived from memories and thus chaining yourself to nothing except the fairly weak habit and perhaps a greater tendency to daydream/fantasise

>> No.11303277

So there's 0 risk of anything in not ejaculating for long time?

>> No.11303302

>>11303211
>answer my retarded poltard question scientifically

>> No.11303306

>>11303302
i don't know what pol is about i've never been there and the question isn't "retarded" you probably just have a mangina

>> No.11303312

>>11303306
>you probably just have a mangina
Coming from the guy who is afraid of masturbating lmao

>> No.11303582

>>11303183
if u fap every day and suddenly stop you can get vericose veins on your balls. Just stop fapping gradually.

>> No.11303607

>>11303211
Your literally espousing some antisemitic bullshit from /pol/ fuck I remember why I despise coming here sometimes. Redd!t is good but /sci/ also has many intellectuals like myself but righttards like you ruin it

>> No.11303615

>>11303306
The question might not be retarded completely, but you certainly are.

Fapping is good for prostate health by the way.

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>>11303607
>redditfag
OH NONONONONONONO HAHAHAHA

>> No.11303659
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Frequent masturbation lowers testosterone utilizationhttps://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alonso_Fernandez-Guasti/publication/6536830_Relationship_between_Sexual_Satiety_and_Brain_Androgen_Receptors/links/54b6c2970cf2e68eb27f0321/Relationship-between-Sexual-Satiety-and-Brain-Androgen-Receptors.pdf
Three weeks of abstinence increases testostorone levelshttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788
Masturbation is associated with lower psychological health and reproductive well-beinghttps://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14681994.2019.1677883
Men who are sexually active in their 20s and 30s are more likely to develop prostate cancerhttps://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1464-410X.2008.08030.x
Masturbation decreases dopamine levelshttps://sites.tufts.edu/emotiononthebrain/2014/11/18/postcoital-neurochemistry-the-blues-and-the-highs/
Watching porn reduces gray matter in prefrontal cortexhttps://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/1874574
Porn addiction has similar mechanism with substance addictionhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4600144/
Making sperm shortens lifespan of male wormshttps://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/03/us/in-worm-at-least-making-sperm-is-found-to-shorten-a-male-s-life.html
Masturbating 3 days in a row decreases sperm count by 20%https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2054949
Increasing ejaculation frequency decreases sperm count significantlyhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15497706
Prevalence of erectile dysfunction doubled between 2004 and 2013http://cir.usc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Genital-Image-Sexual-Anxiety-and-Erectile-Dysfunction-Among-Young-Male-Military-Personnel.pdf
Pornography consumption is associated with mental health issueshttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6327603/

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>>11303312
>you

>> No.11303670
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>>11303615
>UUUUUUUUUuuuUUUUuuUuGggghhHHhhhhhhhh I NEED TO COOM I NEED TO TOUCH MY PROSTATE AGAIN UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UH UUUUUUGGGGHHHHH

>> No.11303671

>>11303661
the kike in your picture is kinda fun and probably more alpha than you despite being a literal faggot

>> No.11303673

>>11303659
Does anyone have anything to debunk this or we can all agree moderation and abstinence is indeed the way to go?

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>>11303671
...that's an onions boy.

>> No.11303718

>>11303673
fapping one time a week to porn is too much, you should limit yourself to fapping one time in a 2 weeks to a porn

>> No.11303901

>>11303183
>Or does it make no difference?
masturbation avoidance is documented to upgrade androgen receptors over time, it seems masturbation may downgrade androgen receptors in male body.

>> No.11303939

nofap is a meme, noporn is the real deal
>>11303211
you want me to cite my sources too?

>> No.11303957

>>11303183
Here’s some advice for you fucking cretins

GET A GIRLFRIEND
FUCK HER

>> No.11304139

>>11303659
nice sources bro
the only /sci/ worthy answer in the thread

>> No.11304146

>>11303957
Can't. Too fucked up to even form basic friendships with either sex.

>> No.11304151

>>11303718
I never use porn. I have this fantasy where I am an ancient Persian king back from battle and my favorite slave girl(s) wash my balls until I jizz. Then I wash the regret down the drain and get on with life.

>> No.11304155

>>11303203
I DO browse /pol/ all day.

>> No.11304159

>>11303957
I have a fiance you fuckin Mook.

>> No.11304163

>>11303183
When I first started no fap, I felt freed. I became more social and started talking to girls and lost my virginity a month later to my current gf. Fast forward 4 months to the present and I have borderline ed. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn’t. I think it cause of stress but I used to use jacking off as stress relief.

>> No.11304225

>>11304146
>Can't. Too fucked up to even form basic friendships with either sex

Fuck a hooker.

>> No.11304230

>>11304159
Then go fuck her. Why is “Muh nofap” even a thing to discuss for you?

Jack off if you want but slamming pussy is infinitely better

>> No.11304239

>>11304225
For what purpose? Unfulfilling.

>> No.11304246

>>11304239
>For what purpose?

It’ll feel good and satisfy your libido.

> Unfulfilling

Better than nothing, incel.

>> No.11304251

>>11304246
>It’ll feel good and satisfy your libido.
It costs money and accomplishes something little different than jerking off.

>incel
I'm not an incel. I just don't bother.

>> No.11304259

>>11304251
>I just don't bother.

Well, bother. Nothing is quite as satisfying as falling asleep at 2 AM watching Commando on the TV while your infant son sleeps next to you

>> No.11304353

>>11303673
They'll probably post some bogus studies by some merchant-owned establishment.
>>11304139
Thanks bro

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>almost two weeks without sex
Losing my mind here, bros.

>> No.11304390

>>11303205
>use it or lose it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocturnal_penile_tumescence

Nocturnal penile tumescence is a spontaneous erection of the penis during sleep or when waking up. Along with nocturnal clitoral tumescence, it is also known as sleep-related erection.[note 1] All men without physiological erectile dysfunction experience nocturnal penile tumescence, usually three to five times during a period of sleep, typically during rapid eye movement sleep.[1] Nocturnal penile tumescence is believed to contribute to penile health.[2]

>> No.11304396

Have sex

>> No.11304407

>>11303659
You are doing God's work, Anon. Thank you!

>> No.11304423

>>11304259
It just isn't feasible.

>> No.11304449

Not fapping every day causes prostate cancer. Just putting that out there.

>> No.11304450

>>11303659
>Dude be an incel and never have sex

Massive cope.

>> No.11304487

>>11304450
I get joy from reducing distraction from joy. As important as just me and my potential news is new joy for others which have their own news but not much more. I cherish joy for everyone, but I understand that most have to read the news. Still I will help then with all of it indirectly without being affected myself. It is what I do best, and I am willing to die for it. In fact, it is not possible that I do not. While I do not cherish it, I am able to say it.

>> No.11304879

>>11303607
>"righttards"
>literal redditfag
holy fucking shit lmao what a joke you are

>> No.11304906

>>11303670
If you need to touch your prostate for fapping, you're either doing it wrong or you're gay.

>> No.11305015

>>11303183
Buy two body pillows with thick washable covers and stick them together with velcro. Sleep with your dick in between them. Don't bother masturbating. If it's time to ejaculate, it'll happen naturally during sleep.

>> No.11305355

>>11305015
Jim

>> No.11305371

>>11303607
You are a fucking pseud of the lowest hanging fruit. Kys

>> No.11305375

>>11303659
Thanks you. First useful reply.

>> No.11305378

>>11303214
Why?

>> No.11305379

>>11303183
semen retention, particularly forms of nofap, have been practiced and written about in all cultures, civilizations and religions. there's something there.

>> No.11305382

>>11303659
BASED.

>> No.11305383

>>11304163
I think the answer is to do it once or twice a week like Wednesday and Sunday. Maybe that would be enough to not get ed? Correct me if I’m wrong

>> No.11305395

>>11303266
>>expelling resources which could lead to deficiencies without adequate diet

Your fucking semen is not blood. The amount you ejaculate is not going to deprive you of any meaningful, fuck almost any measurable resources to speak of. This is one of the worst pseudoscience new agey faggotry you see from nofap where semen has some kind of chakrah vril essence. Rest of that is accurate save the physical damage is simply conditioning your cock to expect the hand instead of a pussy, so you can be conditioned out of it.

>>11303659
>Pornography consumption is associated with mental health issues
>Masturbation is associated with lower psychological health and reproductive well-being
Chicken and the egg.

>> No.11305397

“ Nofap triggers your lust to actually get things in reality, not dream about them.
It creates a necessary sexual hunger to help you reach your peak.”

>> No.11305401

>>11305379
>It’s popular so it’s true

>> No.11305404

>>11305397
It does no such thing. You're just using it as a ritual, a medium to move into another frame, but it's not strictly caused by not fapping. It's a medium.

>> No.11305463

>>11305404
And you know this how? Why? Cause your head is up your ass?

>> No.11305487

>>11305463
Because I've gone several weeks without masturbating and found VERY SIMILAR results were achievable with mental discipline, conditioning, and focus. I'm not saying nofap does literally nothing, just that there's a degree of misattribution to the causative factors. Porn and laziness.

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reminder

>> No.11305790

>>11305785
Neither side of that is true. Yes, a good fap can relax and bring about focus and even inspiration if you like art. No, not jerking off doesn't flood a healthy mind with the need to masturbate. If that's the case, you really are a coomer and do have a problem.

More dimwit tribalism.

>> No.11305793

>>11305790
>No, not jerking off doesn't flood a healthy mind with the need to masturbate.

Yes it does. Humans have a libido that they ought to satiate. Have sex.

>> No.11305795

>>11305793
You sound like you have very little internal control.

>> No.11305824
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>>11303183
By abstaining from ejaculation (sex included) your prolactin goes down, increasing GnRH from your hypothalamus, that then leads to more LH from your pituitary which results in greater testosterone
The feedback of lower prolactin being released and the more dopamine is used to inhibit prolactin production likely produces the improved "energy" feeling that one gets when on nofap for extended periods of time.
This shit isn't magic, it's rooted in solid endocrinology and neurology, the reason doctors don't talk about it is because this stuff only matters for people who are in a position to practice semen retention (i.e. young men who do not really get sick and so do not matter to doctors), and it's more of a min-max thing to improve the life of the young male.

>> No.11305836

>>11303183
Masturbation can be an addiction, as can porn. Best not to for psychological health.
Just eat fucking broccoli and your prostate will be fine. Prostate cancer didn't suddenly drop with modern coomerism and porn consoomerism.

>> No.11305919

>>11305378
Not him, but it takes your attention away. That in turn decreases your mental capabilities, especially memory.
It's addictive.

>> No.11305961

>>11305824
by your argument masturbation is better than sex since it produces less prolactin.
and prolactin produced from cooming won't give you tiddies since it way less than needed and it goes away very quickly.
also it's not as simple as prolactin --> high estrogen --> you turn from uberchad into a double chin basedboy

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>>11304450
No you complete faggot, it's okay to fuck, as you tend to do that like once a few weeks. Fapping is done way more often, which is an issue.
>>11304906
I'm honestly surprised you aren't doing that, you fucking coomer

>> No.11306073

>>11305795
>You sound like you have very little internal control.

I could make my life measurably worse by never having sex, but I won’t, because that’d be retarded like you.

>> No.11306077

>>11306004
>No you complete faggot, it's okay to fuck, as you tend to do that like once a few weeks.

Pussy. You should fuck daily. The only reason to not fuck daily is if you want to maximize the volume of your cumshot for some reason.

>> No.11306079

>>11305919
>Not him, but it takes your attention away.

Oh no my attention!!!!11111

Pay attention to fucking pussy.

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>>11306077
>>11306079
Hey look, a simp. Even actual Chads have other hobbies besides sex

>> No.11306596

>>11306073
Yeah, you can't even respond to the topic. I never said I would actively refuse or avoid sex. Jerking off is not sex, you stupid little coomer brainlet.

>> No.11306605

there's nothing wrong with masturbating to your own imagination... just stop watching porn, porn is what's bad for you. Visual crack cocaine