Climate Change Hysteria Proven Wrong Again

[Anonymous No.11302369]

Glacier Park in Montana Set to Remove ‘Glaciers Will All Be Gone By 2020’ Signs
https://www.kpax.com/news/local-news/flathead-county/glacier-national-park-to-remove-all-glaciers-will-be-gone-by-2020-signs
GLACIER NATIONAL PARK — Glacier National Park is removing signs that state all glaciers will be melted by 2020.

Park spokeswoman Gina Kurzmen explained that since the early 2000s scientists have reflected and analyzed data stating glaciers would recede by 2020.

She told MTN News that the latest research shows shrinking, but in ways much more complex than what was predicted. Because of this, the park must update all signs around the park stating all glaciers will be melted by 2020.

The indoor and wayside exhibits have been updated throughout the park including at the Apgar, Logan Pass and St. Mary visitor centers, according to Kurzmen. She also told MTN News that an exterior panel at St. Mary still displays out-of-date language but is planned to be replaced later this year.

Kurzmen says Glacier National Park will work with the US Geological Survey to monitor the glaciers and update the remainder of the signs as necessary.

[Anonymous No.11302377]

>>11302369
How exactly does this prove climate change wrong again?

[Anonymous No.11302385]

>>11302377

[Anonymous No.11302406]

>>11302385
>i have no argument

[Anonymous No.11302412]

>>11302369
YEAH FUCK SCIENTISTS THEY FUCKIN SUCK BRO

[Anonymous No.11302415]

>>11302369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il-22Q8mECc

[Anonymous No.11302465]

>>11302415

[Anonymous No.11302476]

>>11302465
>only s0ijaks trust mass media
>therefore if you aren't a basedjak you need to distrust science
>because non-s0ijak chads like everyone on /pol/ are super into creationism and they're always right, especially the wizards with their special powers of intellect on matters such as hitler, evola, and moldbug

[Anonymous No.11302530]

>>11302476
This but unironically

[Anonymous No.11302538]

>>11302530
reminder that biomaterialist determinism is the only legitimate justification for hyper fascism.

[Anonymous No.11302542]

>>11302530

[Anonymous No.11302547]

Well there are still 11.5 months to go. Fingers crossed!

[Anonymous No.11302575]

>>11302542
>>11302465
you'll notice these posters never actually seem to care about the truth

[Anonymous No.11302577]

>>11302542
I'll admit it's pretty brave to unironically believe in a flat earth, dumb as fuck but definitely brave to be prepared to be treated like an idiot wherever you go. I suppose this also applys to all the dumb shit you also probably believe in

[Anonymous No.11302919]

>>11302476

[Anonymous No.11302921]

>>11302577
applies mr genius man insulting everyone else

[Anonymous No.11302928]

>>11302577
flat earthers are a controlled narrative to discredit legitimate theories exposing dangerous conspiracies

[Anonymous No.11302966]

>>11302369
>Because of this, the park must update all signs around the park stating all glaciers will be melted by 2020.
>all glaciers will be melted by 2020.
Before it said they would recede, now it says they will fully melt. So what you're saying is that they weren't hysterical enough?

[Anonymous No.11302998]

>>11302928
nah some people really are that dumb, see the electro universe cranks under every rock on this board.

[Anonymous No.11303003]

>>11302921
nothing

[Anonymous No.11303016]

>>11302369
>NNNNOOOOO!!!! You need to eat the bugs, live like a Cambodian rice farmer taxed like a Swede NOWWW!!!! This only makes baby Greta cry, repent for your evil consumerist ways.

[Anonymous No.11303019]

>>11303016
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.11303024]

>>11302966
Are you retarded anon? They're updating the signs because it's 2020 and the ice isn't gone

[Anonymous No.11303029]

>>11303019
I hear you, brother. Fuck actually viable solutions like nuclear. That only make mother nature angry. We should all live like Haitian dirt peasants with a 75% income tax rate now.

[Anonymous No.11303040]

>>11302575

[Anonymous No.11303045]

>>11303029
nuclear would have been great 40 years ago, but at this point renewables destroy it in pretty much every possible metric. It's nothing but a meme for redditors, and red herring for people trying to avoid actual solutions. It can work in secure nations with completely socialized grids but anywhere else it's a joke.

[Anonymous No.11303049]

>>11303029
>We should all live like Haitian dirt peasants with a 75% income tax rate now.
You and I should, but people who are telling us to live like that should be rewarded with luxury yachts and teams of servants because of how much more intelligent they are than the rest of us

[Anonymous No.11303050]

>>11303040
thanks for proving my point

[Anonymous No.11303076]

>>11303049
This seems to make sense. Can you explain how pic related got so fuckin rich from starting a book club for old ladies and then, running uncontested for state senator before being elected president?

[Anonymous No.11303084]

>>11303076
bookkeeping in the publishing and entertainment industry is complicated stuff, some people just get lucky i guess.

[Anonymous No.11303107]

>>11302415
>Daily Show
Yeah, I used to watch that and think it was edgy and cool, and made me intellectual and cool back when I was 19. Now I'm 30 and I know better.

[Anonymous No.11303112]

>>11303076

David Axelrod got copies of a sealed divorce case of his opponent Jack Ryan. Jack Ryan was married to Seven of Nine from Star Trek and tried to get her to goto swingers club and other weird shit. The revelation instantly destroyed his candidacy and allowed Obama to win.

[Anonymous No.11303118]

>>11302369
Like it says, climate predictions are complex. But of course retards like you are too stupid to understand complexity, so you'll pretend that this story means that climate change isn't real.

[Anonymous No.11303121]

>>11303112
OMG SEVEN OF NINE
I LOVE SCIENCE AND I LOVE TELEVIOSON
#BelieveHer #BelieveHer #BelieveHer #BelieveHer #BelieveHer #BelieveHer #BelieveHer #BelieveHer #BelieveHer #BelieveHer #BelieveHer #BelieveHer
#BelieveHer

[Anonymous No.11303132]

>>11302369
>Exaggeration of climate change by layperson disproven, therefore climate change is disproven!!!1111

[Anonymous No.11303137]

>>11303121
Can anyone decipher this post for me? I can't make heads or tails of what it's trying to communicate

[Anonymous No.11303147]

>>11303137
It’s one of those /pol/posters who can only spam the thread with caricatures in lieu of any ability to debate science. Ignore them and they leave, just like flat earth posters.

[Anonymous No.11303159]

>>11302369
Climate change is just easy to swallow branding for endless taxes and policies they want to cram down your throat.

Literally follow the money, retards. You ever wonder why your average sociopath politicians give a fuck about 2 degrees or some Pacific island getting swamped long after they're dead? They don't.

[Anonymous No.11303165]

>>11303159
>Climate change is just easy to swallow branding for endless taxes and policies they want to cram down your throat.

Please refute the whole of the scientific literature demonstrating climate change to exist.

[Anonymous No.11303173]

>>11303165
How about you post some, shit for brains?

[Anonymous No.11303179]

>>11303173
You seemed like such an expert on the topic, I assumed you had thorough rebuttals on hand. Can I see any of your published papers?

[Anonymous No.11303188]

>>11303147
>Ignore them and they leave
that's why this board is teh best

[Anonymous No.11303193]

>>11303165
>Please refute the whole of the scientific literature demonstrating climate change to exist.
>implying all that scientific literature is cemented fact
>being a fucking retard on purpose
>fuck piss the fucking pissing shitting fucking cunt piss fuck pissicing FUCKING cunt

[Anonymous No.11303199]

>>11303179
>Can I see any of your published papers?
>IMPLYING PUNBLISHED PAPERS ARE WORTH ANY FUCKING HGNSIN TA
ALL >FUCK
>FC

[Anonymous No.11303219]

>>11303193
>>11303199

Do you need help?
Scientific data and research is almost always published in the form of papers in scientific journals.

[Anonymous No.11303230]

>>11303219
>Scientific data and research is almost always published in the form of papers in scientific journals.

[Anonymous No.11303238]

>>11303219
No, seriously. I may be a paranoid schizophrenic but i hate your fucking guts so god damn fucking much

[Anonymous No.11303247]

>>11303238
Okay.

[Anonymous No.11303252]

>>11303219
You've probably seen this before but it's appropriate here:
>Arguing with idiots is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon - it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory.
There's no point trying to engage with the retards you're responding to. They're just going to knock the pieces over, crap on the board, and fly back to their flock to claim victory.

>>11303238
And the rest of the world despises you for being a cunt.

[Anonymous No.11303257]

>>11303252
>And the rest of the world despises you for being a cunt.
GOOD. The rest of the world is fucking stupid and as a whole weaker than me as a fucking individual. Don't worry mother fucker, i'll Jim Jones some fucking sense into the whole fucking world. But with a lot more misery and hostility because retards don't understand anything else.

[Anonymous No.11303264]

>>11303252
>There's no point trying to engage with the retards you're responding to. They're just going to knock the pieces over, crap on the board, and fly back to their flock to claim victory.
Knock this piece over thick shit: Nobody knows a god damn thing. It's obvious we're fucking up the environment. It's obvious the solutions are communist in nature. Nobody understands the climate. Nobody understands the eco system. Tiem spent fucking with shit and seeing what happens (or not fucking with shit and seeing what happens) is far more valuable than studying and researching and publishing stupid fucking papers and being on the cover of tiem faggot magazine or winning nobel faggot prizes

tl;dr FUCK HUMAN EGO

[Anonymous No.11303295]

>>11303029
>tfw deny climate change but want to eat bugs and live as a Haitian peasant because
1) the industrial revolution was a mistake
2 Modern conveniences are unnecessary vanities that cause spiritual decay
3) algae and insects are the future

[Anonymous No.11303298]

>>11303295
>3) algae and insects are the future
It should be for those that can't catch their own prey.

[Anonymous No.11303345]

>>11303257
Do you realise the fucking irony that you're accusing others of being stupid while you're directing unwarranted vitriol against an anon who is pointing out factual science?

To put it in simpler terms: you're accusing others of being stupid, while you're denying established science.

Perhaps I should give you some slack for believing in crazy shit, like believing that the climate thing is one big conspiracy, if you really do have paranoid schizophrenia. But paranoid schizophrenia doesn't give you an excuse for being a complete cunt towards people with different views to your own - and you're the one who said that you hated an anon's guts for no reason other than that he's saying what science is telling us.

I have met quite a few paranoid schizophrenics, and yes they can believe in some crazy shit, but none of the ones I met were nasty people. Some were actually incredibly friendly people. Others were less in touch with reality and more disturbed - but they still weren't nasty.

Normally I would respond to posts like yours with vitriol back since that's what you're posting to other people. Perhaps I should in this case too because, like I said, paranoid schizophrenia doesn't give you an excuse to be a cunt. It can give you an excuse for believing in crazy shit, yes, but it doesn't give you an excuse for being a cunt.

[Anonymous No.11303351]

>>11303264
>Nobody understands the climate
Apart from scientists who are far smarter than you are.

Imagine being so fucking stupid that you think nobody understands something just because you don't. Fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.11303355]

>>11303295
>1) the industrial revolution was a mistake

Okay. Go live with the Amish.

[Anonymous No.11303358]

>>11303351
>Apart from scientists who are far smarter than you are.
all predictions are shit. they understand the climate sure, but not enough to try and scare me into an over-anxious state.

[Anonymous No.11303360]

>>11303345
>while you're denying established science
i'm not denying any established science. the moar the merrier. just don't use it to scare monger or make delusional emotional infused predictions.

[Anonymous No.11303362]

>>11303345
>But paranoid schizophrenia doesn't give you an excuse for being a complete cunt towards people with different views to your own
LOL that's the very nature of being a paranoid schizophrenic

[Anonymous No.11303366]

>>11303345
>Normally I would respond to posts like yours with vitriol back since that's what you're posting to other people. Perhaps I should in this case too because, like I said, paranoid schizophrenia doesn't give you an excuse to be a cunt. It can give you an excuse for believing in crazy shit, yes, but it doesn't give you an excuse for being a cunt.
no no no you got it all wrong, it's the complete opposite. being a paranoid schizophrenic doesn't give you the right to be delusional. you should be woke and angry and afraid and cautious.
i also only bleed this nasty energy off here. it's a defense mechanism that still comes out unnecessarily. i love 4chan

[Anonymous No.11303395]

>>11303358
>Nobody understands the climate
>they understand the climate sure

>>11303360
You're the one who started making emotional tirades because an anon dispassionately pointed out what the science states, and dispassionately asked for evidence to support the contrary position.

>>11303362
No it isn't, as I said I've met paranoid schizophrenics and they weren't nasty people. They believed in some crazy shit but they weren't dickheads about it.

>>11303366
>being a paranoid schizophrenic doesn't give you the right to be delusional
But surely delusions are part of the condition which is why I'm not going to judge a paranoid schizophrenic for believing crazy shit.

[Anonymous No.11303398]

>>11302369
Learn how to type proper English please. Double spacing was phased out of latin/germanic languages over SEVENTY years ago.

[Anonymous No.11303413]

>>11303398
And surprisingly it's making a comeback in electronic forums, for the purpose of clarity.

[Anonymous No.11303414]

>>11303395
>You're the one who started making emotional tirades because an anon dispassionately pointed out what the science states, and dispassionately asked for evidence to support the contrary position.
how fucking long have you been here? this shit is proven to be worthless to argue over again and again and again on this board. it will always and only ever end up at "people need to change the way they live". I don't know why people feel a need to argue so fucking bad. The solution is all 8 billion people on earth growing a big fat boner for the earth and nature. argue over how the fuck to make that happen

[Anonymous No.11303421]

>>11303413
>for the purpose of clarity.
This is satire, right?

[Anonymous No.11303426]

>>11302476
Yes

[Anonymous No.11303433]

>>11303414
shit, we're not even out of the dark ages nigger. WE'RE NOT EVEN OUT OF THE FUCKING JUNGLE. This is a problem of human behavior and humans are gonna be way too pre-occupied with pre-occupying themselves you get what i'm sayin? culture conflicts, war, ethnic cleansing. there is so much fucking horseshit to sort out man to believe nature has a chance in hell is crazy but i am indeed hopeful.

[Anonymous No.11303438]

>>11303345
Go to China and get them to cry about this. They almost gave a piss in '08, but they have more than doubled their emissions since 2000, emissions coming from a nation of over a billion people. India has similarly acted equally as unsustainably while having a population in excess of a billion. I could eat as many bugs as you want and you could get us all to live in pods, you aren't even counteracting the emissions China and India will be putting out by that time.

[Anonymous No.11303443]

>>11303398
>>11303413
>>11303421
Do you mean the spacing between paragraphs? I'm not OP but spacing makes it way more readable which is why people have been doing it on 4chan for a very long time, pic related.

[Anonymous No.11303445]

>>11303345
>My reddit spacing is more eloquent and easier to digest than your concatenated and ugly moose-drrrrropings.

[Anonymous No.11303453]

>>11303040
The s0ilords who gasm over science gasm over popular very poorly explained science and then say it's irrefutable.
They promptly dunk on those dirty, evil theists by stating 'muh scientific method', which requires the refutability of any standing theory in the face of a better evidenced idea.

In the mind of the s0ilord, science is irrefutable and plausably refutable.

[Anonymous No.11303457]

>>11303395
>>11303414
>>11303433
i mean if anywhere is a good place to start, it's world peace. once that gets sorted out we really do have to figure out the disproportionate ratio of those enjoying luxury and everyone else. can't expect any1 to give a shit if we aren't all enjoying the same level of luxury/comfort. Imagine how big of a hurdle that's gonna be if we ever manage to get over that one holy fuck is it worth maintaining hope for that 1 DEBATE NIGGER, DEBATE

[Anonymous No.11303460]

>>11303147
>mmm yesss those evil mean /pol/posters uugghn yes
>I can't make heads or tails of this piece of
basic chan culture
>he must a stupid stupid man yess
>im so much better than you

[Anonymous No.11303465]

>>11303414
Don't try and change the subject fuckface. You accused others of making "delusional emotional infused predictions" when the anon you were replying to was not emotional in the slightest, see here:
>>11303165
>>11303179
>>11303219
Meanwhile you made emotional posts in response.

In any case, I agree with what you've said about how the climate discussion should really be about SOLUTIONS, rather than the issue of whether or not manmade climate change is real. At least that's how I'm interpreting this part:
>The solution is all 8 billion people on earth growing a big fat boner for the earth and nature. argue over how the fuck to make that happen
I'm personally not going to argue that all 8 billion people need to care about the Earth. I'm not an eco warrior myself. I don't know what the right solutions to take are, or indeed whether we even need to take measures at all. But at least that's a topic that can be debated, unlike the question of whether manmade climate change is real, which is a question that seems to be pretty settled by evidence and what the world's scientists say - scientists from every country on the planet, even countries that are completely at odds with each other geopolitically.

>>11303438
China's CO2 emissions per capita are slightly less than HALF those of the United States. And for India, it's LESS THAN ONE EIGHTH as much as the United States.

So no, China and India are not the places to raise this issue. The places to raise it are the United States, Canada, Australia, the Middle East, Kazakhstan, Russia, because they're the worst offenders. And some small countries like Palau and Luxembourg do badly too.

[Anonymous No.11303468]

>>11303465
>>11303465
>Don't try and change the subject fuckface. You accused others of making "delusional emotional infused predictions" when the anon you were replying to was not emotional in the slightest, see here:
shit nigger you think i read this whole fukkin thread b4 i came in to shitpost? LOL I READ THE LAST POST OR 2 AND WENT TO TOWN STOP BEING A WHINY FUCKING BITCH

[Anonymous No.11303470]

>>11302369
daily reminder that greta has fetal alcohol syndrome

[Anonymous No.11303473]

>>11303465
>I'm personally not going to argue that all 8 billion people need to care about the Earth. I'm not an eco warrior myself. I don't know what the right solutions to take are, or indeed whether we even need to take measures at all. But at least that's a topic that can be debated, unlike the question of whether manmade climate change is real, which is a question that seems to be pretty settled by evidence and what the world's scientists say - scientists from every country on the planet, even countries that are completely at odds with each other geopolitically.
ya i laid out a vague idea here on what needs to be done: >>11303457
solutions for sure. heavy emphasis on hands off approach. take a year or 2 off from fishing the oceans. let fish populations grow. subsidize people's diets somehow with other stuff. everyone needs to enjoy the same level of comfort or we can't expect any1 to give a shit. it's a big long road ahead. i really liek forests.

[Anonymous No.11303477]

>>11303107
>i have no argument

[Anonymous No.11303478]

>>11303473
not to mention existential problems. purpose. economy. expression. it can all get sorted out.

[Anonymous No.11303500]

>>11303465
>Since 2006, China has been emitting more CO
2 than any other country,[6][7][8][9][10] which is due to its heavy use of coal.[11] When looking at CO
2 emissions per person, China's levels are less than half those of the United States (the next largest source of CO
2 emissions) and about one eighth of Palau (the biggest CO
2 emitter per person).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions

Retard, even if your examples fully greta'd, the rate at which China and India are churning out fumes and the rate at which the churning is increasing, it won't matter. Cry to China, cry to India.

[Anonymous No.11303507]

>>11302369
>Some retards authorizes a sign that's wrong.
>So that proves climate change is not happening.
I see. How interesting. Thank you Anon for enlightening us with your leet science and logic skills.

[Anonymous No.11303517]

>>11303500
Okay anon, why are they emitting more and more CO2?
Why has China become one of the biggest economies in the world?
I'll give you a hint: they didn't just launch themselves into an economic powerhouse.

[Anonymous No.11303520]

>>11303517
>Okay anon, why are they emitting more and more CO2?
They fart a lot more.

[Anonymous No.11303521]

>>11303520
har har
Regardless, here's the answer:
Most of what is produced in China is exported. That is because labor is simply cheaper there. American and European companies are the largest stressors of the Chinese production capacity.
You can whine "muh China! muh India!" all you want, that doesn't change that they are the proverbial gun while the west pulls the trigger.

[Anonymous No.11303530]

>>11302465
>>11302530
>>11302919
>>11303426
>>11303040
Go back, /pol/nigger

[Anonymous No.11303538]

>>11303188
Based comfyposter

[Anonymous No.11303593]

>In 2017, the park was told by the agency that the complete melting off of the glaciers was no longer expected to take place so quickly due to changes in the forecast model, Kurzmen said. But tight maintenance budgets made it impossible for the park to immediately change the signs.
>But the glacier warning isn't being removed entirely, she told CNN. Instead, the new signs will say: "When they will completely disappear depends on how and when we act. One thing is consistent: the glaciers in the park are shrinking.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/08/us/glaciers-national-park-2020-trnd/index.html

OH NO CLIMATE CHNAGE BTFOOF. LITERARLEY THE ENTIRE FIELD OF STUDY OBLITERSTED BY A SINGLE SHITPOST THREAD

[Anonymous No.11303689]

>>11302415
unironically >>>/reddit/

[Anonymous No.11304381]

>>11302369
OH NO NO NO CLIMATECHADS HOW WILL WE RECOVER FROM THIS?

[Anonymous No.11304404]

>>11302369
"Scientists" lie yet again
No surprises

[Anonymous No.11304586]

>>11303118
>activists and activist scientists spam stupid hyperbolic shit at people
>people don’t believe the people who’ve lied to them
>The public did this!

[Anonymous No.11304587]

>>11303179
Cringe credentialism

[Anonymous No.11304589]

>>11304586
>activists and activist scientists spam stupid hyperbolic shit at people

Who was that? Be specific.

[Anonymous No.11304596]

>>11302377
Basic scientific methodology. This is /sci/, remember?
Propose a hypothesis that can be falsified.
Observe it is indeed falsified.
Hypothesis is now stone cold dead.

Easy.

[Anonymous No.11304600]

>>11304596
based

[Anonymous No.11304601]

>>11303465
This map seems to count oil/gas/coal production as emissions as opposed to emissions at end user. It is not as if the Middle East is massively industrialised, they just produce the stuff.

[Anonymous No.11304603]

>>11304596
> Propose a hypothesis that can be falsified.

Climate change hasn’t been falsified. What was falsified is the hyperbole of laypeople. The glaciers are receding.

[Anonymous No.11304615]

>>11304603
and I suppose the glaciers never receded before 1900?

[Anonymous No.11304623]

>>11304603
>What was falsified is the hyperbole of laypeople.
Cite?
It is a bit shaky when all mispredictions are written off as "hyperbole of lay people" and the rest as indisputable proof.

Also: https://borsen.dk/opinion/blogs/view/17/5021/samtlige_profetier_om_isfrit_arktis_i_dag_er_slaet_fejl_opdateret_status_for_havsisen.html

[Anonymous No.11304625]

>>11304615
>and I suppose the glaciers never receded before 1900?

Never said that. Why are you so eager to dishonestly put words in other people’s mouths?
It’s as if you’re not confident in your ability to argue.

[Anonymous No.11304639]

>>11304623
> Cite?

Read the OP, dumbass.

“ Park spokeswoman Gina Kurzmen explained that since the early 2000s scientists have reflected and analyzed data stating glaciers would recede by 2020.”

They are receding, as the news source later explains. It is not asserted they would be “gone”.

“ She told MTN News that the latest research shows shrinking, but in ways much more complex than what was predicted. Because of this, the park must update all signs around the park stating all glaciers will be melted by 2020.”

Glaciers still shrinking. Earth still warming. Retards on 4Chan obsessing about predictions about when specific glaciers will recede and how much instead of engaging with the reality of an increasing global temperature over the course of the 19000s and 2000s due to human greenhouse gas emissions.

[Anonymous No.11304674]

>Can't use fossil fuels
>Can't use nuclear
guess we have to all die so the planet can live

[Anonymous No.11304740]

>>11302369
>stating glaciers would recede by 2020
>the latest research shows shrinking
Really makes you think. Some retards misunderstanding scientists who are using simple terms does not disproof anything

[Anonymous No.11304758]

>>11304639
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/08/us/glaciers-national-park-2020-trnd/index.html
>The signs in the Montana park were added more than a decade ago to reflect climate change forecasts at the time by the US Geological Survey, park spokeswoman Gina Kurzmen told CNN.
Seems then they got this from US Geological Survey, hardly "lay people".

[Anonymous No.11304759]

>>11302377
Somehow every prediction based off your worthless graphs is wrong, it's time to reassess the significance of a ONE degree increase in global temperature.

[Anonymous No.11304763]

>>11304758
An article is not a credible source. Show the actual report by the US Geological Survey

[Anonymous No.11304777]

>>11303593
>moves the goalpost every ten years
>still has any faith in this cult
lmao

[Anonymous No.11304779]

>>11304759
>t. has never looked at a single one of the study and trusts Moore and Bloggers who airbrush out the accurate graph on the global temperature expectations

[Anonymous No.11304803]

>>11304674
Humans don't need electricity to survive. Lrn2history. I for one would welcome an era without phoneposters like yourself.

[Anonymous No.11304804]

>>11304740
>gone is receding or shrinking
Good thing you know where to find a dictionary at least

[Anonymous No.11304813]

>>11304804
>"In several decades they will be mostly gone. They will grow so small that they will disappear. They will certainly be gone before the end of the century," Dan Fagre, the study's lead scientist, had said.
They predicted they will be GONE by the end of the CENTURY.
I always suspected /pol/tards don't read the articles (or don't understand them), this proves it

[Anonymous No.11304909]

>>11304615
If glaciers receded in the past, how does that falsify AGW?

[Anonymous No.11304942]

>>11304758
>""""reflect"""" climate change forecasts
Yea, we'll just keep pretending that the media NEVER inflates or misrepresents the language of scientific reports for shock value, or that simply because the media misrepresents how something is happening that instantly means it's not actually happening at all.

Based fucking retards can't make sense of the fact that the prediction are inflated by laypeople, or that the predictions will be adjusted when people actually listen to the warning and do something about it. Acid rain was literally eating away massive swathes of forest areas and damaging buildings throughout dozens of metropolitan areas until governments and private industry starting controlling emissions and environmental damage. By 2019, unhinged, anti-intellectuals who screech that climate change is just propaganda while sucking up the propaganda of industry elites either weren't around to remember this, dismiss everything that proves them wrong as misinformation, or can't do the simple analytics and critical thinking required to come to obvious conclusions.

[Anonymous No.11304996]

>>11304942
Then can the scientists themselves explain the significance of these useless studies? I don't recall the majority of scientists objecting to these incorrect predictions again and again and again. What exactly is global warming going to cause, oh esteemed scientists? We're waiting.

[Anonymous No.11305195]

>>11304601
>This map seems to count oil/gas/coal production as emissions as opposed to emissions at end user.
Producing oil requires burning lots of oil.

[Anonymous No.11305286]

>>11302369
How did you know that it would be there if we did nothing since 60's?

[Anonymous No.11305298]

>>11305195
It's not really china's fault. America and Europe outsourced virtually all our manufacturing to China. And now we blame China for what are essentially OUR emissions, created in the process of manufacturing products that WE use. How is that fair?

[Anonymous No.11305452]

What is the replication rate of Climate Science?

[Anonymous No.11305519]

>>11302369
>>11302369
I live in Germany near the alps. We had no snow this winter and only three days of snowfall last winter.
(8 Years ago we had regularly ~2 meters of snow)

A friend of mine lives in Russia, they didn't have snow this winter. Usually there should be a lot of snow. Nope nothing.

Its happening.

[Anonymous No.11305524]

>>11305286

[Anonymous No.11305550]

>>11304813
>pollacks are fucktards
I mean that should be common knowledge at this point

[Anonymous No.11305553]

>>11305452
Climate science is observational, its impossible to test the weather in a lab.

[Anonymous No.11305596]

>>11305524
>heres some cherrypicked data someone else gathered, analyzed, possibly manipulated and then published to back up my assertions.
yep, thats doing science

[Anonymous No.11305603]

>>11305596
Those are some pretty serious accusations, i'm sure you have sufficient evidence to make them. Could you please share it?

[Anonymous No.11305862]

>>11305596
>it's only valid science when it agrees with my specific worldview /pol/ told me to have

[Anonymous No.11305893]

>>11305596
>Published data is false but this unfunny comic by A. Wyatt Mann proves all my points
I agree with the sentiment of your image, but come on

[Anonymous No.11305896]

>>11303689
>i have no argument

[Anonymous No.11305899]

>>11305596

[Anonymous No.11305908]

>>11305896
>your kind
>welcome here

[Anonymous No.11305909]

>>11302369
The real question is
Why are Europe and North America being told to do fuck shit about it when by far the biggest contributors are China and India?
Doesn't matter half a tit's bollock what we do if they keep bumming up the air.

[Anonymous No.11305910]

>>11305899
why the hell the sudden drop from 90-93?

[Anonymous No.11305917]

>>11305908
Ah yes, I remember watching the whole video, it was oddly not that much repulsive.

[Anonymous No.11306272]

>>11303045
EE who works in the power industry here. Feel free to knee jerk against this obvious appeal to my own authority, but I don't have the time to bang out several 2k char posts.
You're wrong. Renewables are going nowhere because of the capacity factor problem. No, wide distribution and battery doesn't solve it. To get to even 50% of our energy from wind and solar would necessitate enormous storage, which makes them more expensive than nuclear by a wide margin. Wind and solar can provide for, at best, 30% of our energy. Hydro and geothermal can provide an additional 5-10%. We're left with an enormous gaping hole which is currently filled with coal, gas, liquid petroleum and nuclear. Nuke does about 10%. We could easily get that to 60% and fill the rest with renewable. Trying to get solar and wind to 50% will get you in a position similar to Germany, which is STILL 35% coal and 13% gas despite extremely high energy prices and stagnant CO2 emissions while it burdens* surrounding countries with a volatile load on their grid.

It's quite lucrative for surrounding countries actually, as peaking power costs a lot while being easy to produce from gas plants. Germany is getting shafted in cross border power agreements while they build their own gas out.

[Anonymous No.11306282]

>>11305553
So, it's not science?

[Anonymous No.11306288]

Weather says it will rain at 4pm
>4pm comes no rain

Fuck Weather report its wrong

>Throw away umbrella

Rains at 5pm

[Anonymous No.11306518]

>>11306282
If you think something is only science if you can fit it into a laboratory you probably need to go back to middle school

[Anonymous No.11306742]

What gives climate change deniers their passion? I don't get it. I can think of mainstream scientific consensuses I'm skeptical of, but I'm not so violently opposed to them I go out and make shitty non-arguments and false equivalences, as if the fact that something sides with my opinion makes it valid.

Don't take that as an ad hominem either. The fact that so many people trot out such horseshit in opposition to global warming doesn't in itself make their position incorrect. But golly, they sure do pump it out. Anyone seriously arguing the point surely has to start by disavowing the mountains of bullshit put forward by the idiots who agree with them.

[Anonymous No.11307151]

ugh! what if we stop polluting our oceans and atmosphere and destroying our flora and fauna for no reason!!!!

[Anonymous No.11307175]

>>11306742
weak moral character, they are afraid of taking responsibility

[Anonymous No.11307180]

climate changed since the dawn of time nothing new

[Anonymous No.11307185]

>>11307175
maybe they're just tired of narcissistic cunts trying to scare them

[FFVII Red Cap No.11307186]

>P.S. All of this 'Do something!' Stuff is literally: just do something

[Anonymous No.11307190]

>>11307185
Narcissus only cared about himself people who want to stop climate change care about everyone.

[Anonymous No.11307194]

>>11307190
you're full of fucking shit lol

[Anonymous No.11307198]

>>11307190
also the narcissus story is fucking stupid. narcissism is better understood as emotional problems on behalf of over-active self-preservation

[Anonymous No.11307202]

>>11307198
>self preservation
He committed suicide.

[Anonymous No.11307204]

>>11307202
it's a stupid fucking story what the fuck is your argument

[Anonymous No.11307206]

Why is it that people can't have nuanced discussion about this? It's all hyperbole. Also so many people act like it is somehow a simple problem to solve and not one of the most complex issues ever.

[Anonymous No.11307209]

>>11306518
Well I know one thing: psychiatry is DEFINITELY not a science.

[Anonymous No.11307211]

>>11304596
No the hypothesis that glaciers will be gone by 2020 has been proven wrong. Perhaps the model of climate change when the prediction was made was flawed, but climate change as a whole has not been disproven.

[Anonymous No.11307213]

>>11306742
I am more upset at the religification of science than anything. It is more damaging when you look at psychiatry. Also medicine in general is not always trustworthy yet the "scientists" say take your meds so I listen to my priests and take my meds!!!

[Anonymous No.11307215]

>>11307204
>what the fuck is your argument
You don't know the definition of narcissism.

[Anonymous No.11307217]

>>11304803
>Humans don't need electricity to survive.
Have fun getting taken over by North Korea or China or any other authoritarian shithole.

[Anonymous No.11307224]

>>11307206
>Why is it that people can't have nuanced discussion about this
2 reasons i can think of.
1: Those with schizophrenia have no fucking ability to communicate their internal experiences. Either because they don't want to share or because they can't navigate the world of social etiquette while conjuring up the words that best describe what they are feeling when face to face with people.
2:those that dont have schizophrenia just simply don't have the power to apply enough empathy to understand it
not to mention the idea of schizophrenia itself is a subjective experience as well as being up for anybody's interpretation of it. i liek talking about it though

[Anonymous No.11307229]

>>11303345
Honestly a much more immenent problem is people like you attacking creative thinkers as schizophrenic. Also the general disdain for schizophrenic people needs to stop.

[Anonymous No.11307230]

>>11307215
i dont give a fuck what the definition is it's a real fucking thing that is real fucking dangerous and shitty to deal with

[Anonymous No.11307234]

>>11307224
That's an ugly way of thinking anon. Stop being possesser by the scientific institution. There are things in life science can never explain. Particularly human and emotional experiences. Stop drinking the koolaid I love science but I love it for what it is and I respect it's limitations.

[Anonymous No.11307241]

>>11307230
Oh wow. You know that the story of narcissus isn't true right?

[Anonymous No.11307242]

>>11307234
poppycock. science can explain everything. especially our ignorance.

[Anonymous No.11307244]

>>11307241
what the fuck are you doing right now? are you being a 12 year old brat?

[Anonymous No.11307247]

>>11307242
No it can't science operates only on the domain of information not of spirit and emotion. It is also totally unecessary as other tools work much better there. You don't even have a good reason for your belief you are just motivated by something else you refuse to accept. Maybe things are less scary if you think there is a scientific answer for it?

[Anonymous No.11307248]

>>11307244
>what the fuck are you doing right now?
Trying to communicate with someone who doesn't understand what words mean.
>are you being a 12 year old brat?
No.

[Anonymous No.11307249]

>>11307234
>>11307242
i'm personally fond of sean carroll's ability to explain our ignorance. he also seems liek a well-mannered sperg that struggles to tolerate normal people, i've seen some comical apathetic well mannered impatience when dealing with questions from the audience. pretty hysterical stuff

[Anonymous No.11307253]

>>11307248
the word narcissism is too vague to talk about it's meaning outside of emotional problems on behalf of over-active animalistic self-preservation. why don't you unload some fucking words instead of forcing me to by being a retard?

[Anonymous No.11307256]

>>11307247
what are we even talking about here make another post

[Anonymous No.11307257]

>>11307249
There's a difference between understanding the stars and understanding the psyche. Or even beyond that the spirit.

[Anonymous No.11307259]

>>11307253
>the word narcissism is too vague
>why don't you unload some fucking words

Narcissism is the pursuit of gratification from vanity or egotistic admiration of one's idealised self image and attributes. This includes self-flattery, perfectionism, and arrogance.

[Anonymous No.11307261]

>>11307256
I'm talking about the fact that science operates on information. Information is only the worldly part of existence. There is more to existence for instance experience amd emotions.

[Anonymous No.11307262]

>>11307257
>There's a difference between understanding the stars and understanding the psyche
ya the most obvious being that stars are huge burny things in the sky and the human brain functioning on a quantum level

[Anonymous No.11307264]

>>11307257
Is this some sort of metaphysical bullshit or is it some sort of metaphorical bullshit.

[Anonymous No.11307266]

>>11307259
i dont give a fuck about the literature i've read it all what is your god damn experience with narcissism? Your own? Your mother's? Your wife? I've been dealing with a narcissistic family since i was born and i was lucky enough to be the baby of the family. im well-versed in this shit

[Anonymous No.11307267]

>>11307264
Metaphysical. I think David Lynch put it eloquently when describing a donut. You can't possibly understand how wonderful a donut is if you have never eaten a donit before. You will not understand it. That is a metaphor for the reality of experience. You cannot understand an experience without feeling it.

[Anonymous No.11307268]

>>11307262
The human brain is information as well it is not relevant to spirit and emotion.

[Anonymous No.11307271]

>>11307267
>Metaphysical.
So you don't belong in /sci/ then.

[Anonymous No.11307274]

>>11307266
How do you know your family is a bunch of narcissists and not sadists if you don't know what the two words mean?

[Anonymous No.11307275]

>>11307268
ya but we can certainly use science to corner this information to the best of our ability. i'll use faith to deal with the variables and elements in everyday life, i need god's help with that shit and faith is the only way to make things work in real tiem but i still need to know god. if god does not want me to know him too fucking bad

[Anonymous No.11307277]

>>11307275
But god isn't real tho.

[Anonymous No.11307279]

>>11307274
they're both, narcissism easily goes hand in hand with sadism. thing is they also have good in them which is the fucking worst part. i can reject evil, but my family is a fucked up web of emotional problems. but then again this is pretty much every family. every person.

[Anonymous No.11307281]

>>11307271
I do because science is not about these things and I need to remind people of that.

>>11307275
You can't know god not through science at least.

[Anonymous No.11307283]

>>11307277
it's an analogy for the unknown. gotta make due with my human ignorance for the tiem being, and more than anything i sure as fuck know im not responsible for this existence. i didnt put myself here. i didnt give myself any of the tools i use to fuck shit up wherever i go

[Anonymous No.11307286]

>>11307281
Science:
the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

[Anonymous No.11307296]

>>11307286
Yep and none of that has to do with what you really are. You are a spirit not a body or even a mind.

[Anonymous No.11307300]

>>11307296
So prove it by observation and experimentation.

[Anonymous No.11307308]

>>11307300
that's silly anon. What about someone who was abused as a child can they prove it through observation and experimentation?

[Anonymous No.11307314]

>>11307308
Is someone having been abused as a child a matter of science?

[Anonymous No.11307317]

>>11307314
forensic science

[Anonymous No.11307318]

>>11307314
Scientists make it into one and turn it into a chemical imbalance. Ah fuck it I'm done...

[Anonymous No.11307320]

>>11307318
but that's what it is anon, this spirit you speak of really is the product of chemicals/electricity/matter

[Anonymous No.11307323]

>>11307318
Fucking scientists always lying and makin me pissed

[Anonymous No.11307326]

>>11307323
Don't blame scientists for your incontinence.

[Anonymous No.11307411]

>>11306742
Oil companies pay big bucks to conservative think tanks so they can influence weak-minded right wingers into thinking caring about the environment is literally communism/whatever the FOTM boogeyman is

[Anonymous No.11307527]

>>11307323
fucking dead on timing anon, a thousand internetz to you
>>11307326
i lol'd

[Anonymous No.11307535]

>>11307411
there's a whole lotta LOLCONSPIRACY in there

[Anonymous No.11308121]

>>11307535
>what is PragerU
>what is the Heartland Institute
>what is the Cato Institute
>who funds these organisations
>who are the Koch Brothers
>who are the Wilks Brothers
>who is Patrick Moore
It's a conspiracy alright, but it's not just a theory.

[Anonymous No.11308198]

>>11305195
This does not match the earlier map.

[Anonymous No.11308204]

>>11305603
It is pretty suspicious that suddenly climate changes in discrete steps rather than a continuous process.

[Anonymous No.11308212]

>>11304763
It was credible enough for the parks to spend money on putting up those signs.

[Anonymous No.11308218]

>>11304615
>Your measurable have hair loss
>And i suppose you've never lost hair before
Fys and kys zoomie >>>/pol/pal


>>11304777
>Revising projections upon newer data and analysis is """moving the goal post"""
Relativity is literalry a hoax guis. Einsteins just shifted the goal posts XDDDD

>>11306282
>So, astronomy isn't science
BASES AND REDPILLES! SPACE IS A HOAX. JUST LOOK AT THE BUBBLES ON THE ((((™™™™ISS™™™™))))) LATERATELY A HOACS

[Anonymous No.11308221]

>>11308204
>i think it's linear
found the sharpie-idiot

[Anonymous No.11308223]

>>11308204
>>11308204
what level of retard is this it's pretty high i'm sure

[Anonymous No.11308327]

>>11305910
penisturbo

[Anonymous No.11308435]

>>11306272
If you like nuclear energy so much I'm sure you'd be happy to let Brazil, turkey, and iran start using it right?
Oh wait that's not allowed. Now you understand why renewables are key.

[Anonymous No.11308441]

>>11308435
why the fuck can't this god damn connection be offered to the god damn public 24 hours a god damn day. im pretty sure the public doesnt have to be kept ignorant from that sentiment. im actually pretty sure everyone would be behind it except for hardcore liberals but those faggots are seriously en route to another fucking holocaust i swear to fucking god

[Anonymous No.11308606]

>>11308435
Brazil, Turkey and Iran are rounding errors on global emissions. The US, EU, China and India are the ones who need to seriously adopt it. Smaller countries can eventually lease small modular reactors if they can't afford serious nuclear infrastructure and can't be trusted to maintain their own shit.
Also: Surprise! Iran has a nuclear power plant. If you think you can stop developed nations from producing nuclear energy then you're a fucking idiot as proved by history.

>>11308441
You're somehow a bigger faggot than gated community neolibs with a post that ignorant.

[Anonymous No.11308663]

>>11308606
>>11308606
i'm just a big dreamer /b/ro

[Anonymous No.11308669]

>>11308663
I'm pretty sure you're just a poorly made Markov chain.

[Anonymous No.11308741]

>>11302377
because trump btfo climate changers by having a national park remove some signs

[Anonymous No.11308757]

>>11306742
Start with lambasting the opponents. Follow up with:
>Don't take that as an ad hominem either.
Right. And then continue tarring everyone you disagree with.

People like you are the reason the debate always heads for the toilet.

[Anonymous No.11308802]

>>11306742
this thread is literally about horseshit being pushed by people supporting climate change (durr glaciers gone in 2020). How you try to turn this around to be the otherside pushing nonsense is beyond me.
>I can think of mainstream scientific consensuses I'm skeptical of
Are they pushed at every media and pop culture outlet nonstop with trillions of dollars including taxes and fees that could impact the average person being tied to them?

[Anonymous No.11308900]

>>11308669
>The defining characteristic of a Markov chain is that no matter how the process arrived at its present state, the possible future states are fixed.

[Anonymous No.11308918]

>>11308802
>this thread is about how dangerous vaccines are. How you try to turn this around to be antivaxxers pushing nonsense is beyond me.

[Anonymous No.11310611]

>>11305519
The Alps not having a bit of snow, is not the end of the world.

[Anonymous No.11310627]

>>11305519
Bro, live for a while and you're going to witness all kinds of crazy stuff. It is nothing new. Warming may or may not be bullcrap, to some extent but it isn't happening right before your eyes like fear mongering would want you to think. It snowed where I live In California in 1997 and like never before that and never since. I was in kansas in 86 and wore shorts all winter while our teacher explained that the next ice age was coming. In 89 it snowed in July. In 92 I water skied down the street in front of my house. You can read books from any time and see that they talk of weather like there has never been.

[Anonymous No.11310730]

>>11308212
National parks also put up signs with a talking jeans-wearing bear obsessed with forest fire prevention.

[Anonymous No.11310761]

>>11310730
I wonder how much Levi-Strauss paid to get such epic product placement

[Anonymous No.11310837]

>>11310761
The Wartime Ad Counil (now the Ad Council) came up with Smokey in 1944 because their contract to use Bambi for similar posters expired. They also had posters reading "careless matches aid the axis" (google it), but they wanted something for kids too. Albert Staehle painted the original Smokey, but an unknown person at the Council added the jeans.
Supposedly blue jeans were declared an essential commodity during the war, and were only sold to defense workers. Putting Smokey in jeans would have conveyed the idea that forest-fire prevention was important to national defense.
It's also probably not a coincidence that Levi Strauss & Co.'s business exploded after the war.

[Anonymous No.11310840]

>>11308802
But the article in the op doesn't even support your view, I don't think you even read it

[Anonymous No.11310900]

>>11303045
Kek. Tell me how many galons of toxic waste are produced per 200w solar panel?

[Anonymous No.11310955]

>>11310837
Now this is some interesting history.

[Anonymous No.11312117]

>>11305909
>per-capita emission