Nutrition discussion

[Anonymous No.11287910]

I'm re-doing my entire food consumption habits and was wondering if you all have any input. I've done an enormous amount of research, but the field of nutrition is wack. Consensus is hard to come by, even for things like "is cooking with oil good" or "oh no don't roast things the bioavailability drops by five billion percent".
Generally, it seems to come down to eating 'real' food, restricting overall caloric intake, avoiding anything processed... but I already knew that. Everyone already knows that.

Is there anything nutrition-related that you know about that isn't basic "duhhh" advice?

[Anonymous No.11287947]

That's a fucking blueberry

[Anonymous No.11287983]

>>11287947
yeah

[Anonymous No.11287988]

>>11287910
Omega 3 to omega 6 RATIO is more important than omega 3 intake.

[Anonymous No.11288002]

>>11287988
even using cronometer it seems that doing that takes a lot of planning for a given day. Is there a trick?

[Anonymous No.11288003]

>>11287947
get this man his medals

ALL of them

[Anonymous No.11288013]

Focus on nuritional content.

Unless you have the time to study biochem, just go for 100% Daily Value everything

I take a multivitamin in the morning and try to stick to rice and beans (flavored with olive oil and iodized sea salt). If theres no way to cook, I usually go to chipotle or eat protein bars.

[Anonymous No.11288015]

>>11288013
Oh, yeah.

Avoid sugar like the plague. It feels great for like 10 minutes but the crash ruins everything. Carbs are better

[Anonymous No.11288064]

>>11288015
*added sugars
Fruits are fine. Even eating a lot of them.

[Anonymous No.11288072]

>>11288013
multivitamins are a useless waste of money. It is quite unlikely that you have a nutritional deficiency in the first place (https://www.cdc.gov/nutritionreport/)) & they don't work (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/multivitamins-are-a-waste-of-money-doctors-say/))

[Anonymous No.11288075]

>>11287947
>in b4 somebody posts inflation fetish art and says
>No, this is a fucking blueberry

[Anonymous No.11288079]

>>11287947
>in b4 somebody posts blueberry inflation fetish art and says
>No, this is fucking a blueberry

[Anonymous No.11288094]

>>11287910
>Is there anything nutrition-related that you know about that isn't basic "duhhh" advice?

Coffee and chocolate (dark not mik hershey garbage) are shown to be consumed in large quantities by people who live over 90. Of course no one will admit that they're the cause because "noo those are supposed to be bad for you".

>>11288015
Pasta is besta. Eat for mega carbs the day before lots of activity.

>>11287988
>>11287910

I'm not normally one to take powdered stuff but Acai Berries are good for omega 6 and 9 and there's no other way of affordable obtaining them except in freeze dried powder form. Good for those who have a natural high cholesterol and cannot bring it down lower. They're a lot like blueberries, but a bit more flavorless. I add some to orange juice or oatmeal to flavor it a little.

Beetroot powder, Cacao and nutritional yeast are also good superfoods that you really can't take in any other more "solid form"

>>11288064
usually berries contain the most nutritional value in terms of "goodstuff per volume", but careful on which you choose in the store. Strawberries are great...if you grow them, the ones they sell are GMO'd to oblivion to have red outside but white inside with almost no nutritional value. Grapefruits are the best of the large fruits, that or pomegranates/pears. An apple is fine too.

[Anonymous No.11288100]

>>11287947

The most important aspect of a good nutritious diet is to eat a variety of whole foods, primarily plants. Almost all foods are indirectly related to plants (all meat, nuts, fruits, eggs).

Here is my favourite site about nutrition. They go into extensive detail about the science revolving around these foods.

http://www.whfoods.org/foodstoc.php

[Anonymous No.11288111]

>>11288100
>no chia seeds
what a shit list

[Anonymous No.11288113]

>>11288094
>>11287910
2/2

Another thing to keep in mind is that it's okay to splurge on the bad stuff, so long as the quality of bad is good. Take alcohol for instance. They say it'll kill you and that it's bad for your liver, and while that may be true the example people generally use are alcoholics who are not even interested in the quality of it. Simply abusing the shittiest store bought wine/package store name brand garbage that isn't filtered as much as a high quality craft beer or hard liquor is of course going to kill you. Your liver isn't going to have to work as hard processing Russian standard as opposed to popov vodka or bud-wiser. This is why in other countries, alcoholics live almost as long as anyone else and their livers don't die out as quick. You also aren't going to get as bad of a headache or hangover from it less garbage to filter out through your bloodstream.

[Anonymous No.11288116]

>>11288113
I only drink local absinthe so I think I'm good

[Anonymous No.11288122]

>>11288002
>takes a lot of planning
Yeah :(
>Is there a trick?
Kinda.
1) Try to avoid foods high in omega 6 regardless of ratio.
2) Take omega 3 supplements. Algae, Krill etc. is probably the safer than seafood if you are going to take it every day as there are mercury in seafood.
3) Eat (plant) foods high in omega 3. Flax seeds, chia seeds, walnuts etc. Omega 3 in plants are different from those in algae, krill, seafood etc. We need the maritime variety as well. It's probably safe to eat seafood or take fish oil a few times a week depending on the source.

[Anonymous No.11288124]

>>11288122
Cont.
>>11288094
>I'm not normally one to take powdered stuff but Acai Berries are good for omega 6 and 9 and there's no other way of affordable obtaining them except in freeze dried powder form. Good for those who have a natural high cholesterol and cannot bring it down lower. They're a lot like blueberries, but a bit more flavorless. I add some to orange juice or oatmeal to flavor it a little.
Very interesting! Thank you for sharing!

[Anonymous No.11288131]

>>11288122
this is my daily breakfast oats breakdown apparently.

[Anonymous No.11288150]

>>11288131
Most sources I can find seems advice to try to aim for 1:1 ratio. It seems the problems start to arise when omega 6 to omega 3 ratio is like 3:1 or higher.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12442909

I am not sure about ratios with even more omega 3 than omega 6, but looking at omega 6 contents of various common foods it surely seems hard to acheive.

[Anonymous No.11288154]

The body needs omega 6 as well, so I guess I should not tell people to try to avoid it altogether. Sorry for being sloppy.

[Anonymous No.11288921]

I wish nuts weren’t so calorie dense, god damn

[Anonymous No.11288989]

>>11287910
Ignore everyone in this thread, and read this:
http://catalyticlongevity.org/prepub_archive/LFLSWFV10.pdf
~250 pages.
Over 1000 citations.

[Anonymous No.11288992]

>>11288015
Carbs are sugar, you dumb nigger.

[Anonymous No.11289001]

>>11287910
keto and fasting can work for (mental) illnesses, like depression, bipolar, schizo, autism, alzheimer's, ms, and cancer.
people can get all sorts of health issues because of all sorts of food intolerances, even if they're not diagnosed as gluten/whatever intolerant.
fiber itself isn't beneficial. it's just that whole (plant) foods naturally contain fiber, slowing down absorption. adding fiber to processed food does nothing.
people don't really need anything besides red meat to thrive.

[Anonymous No.11289007]

>>11289001
Got a source for your claims?

[Anonymous No.11289307]

>>11288989
>vegan
what about K2 or B12 or whatever

[Anonymous No.11289311]

>>11289307
You can get K1 instead and B12 from enriched food or supplements.

[Anonymous No.11289315]

>>11289311
sooo then that negates the “whole food” aspect of the paper. Hmmmm

[Anonymous No.11289319]

>>11289315
Non vegans eat tons of enriched food as well and the animals they eat contain B12 due to supplements.
Your arguments are weak and shitty.

[Anonymous No.11289407]

>>11289319
I mean how can the paper encourage veganism AND whole foods if you need artificial supplements as a vegan, moron

[Anonymous No.11289516]

>>11289407
Enriched food isn't artificial.

[Anonymous No.11289526]

>>11289407
>>11289516
Also most supplements aren't artificial either, they're literally nutrients from food items condensed into easy to consume forms.
You're gonna have to explain why they somehow make a vegan diet less viable.

[Anonymous No.11289550]

don't get mixed up in nutritionism. no one really knows how the human body digests or makes use of any particular nutrient or mineral. anyone who says otherwise is trying to sell you some pill or diet shit.

>eat real food
>not too much
>mostly plants

[Anonymous No.11289564]

>>11287910
Nutrient wise just follow what tribes eat because thats what man has been eating for 100k+ years. They mainly eat organs and drink blood.

[Anonymous No.11289588]

>>11289564
Here's how people use to hunt. As we can see man has always been the apex predator were ever he goes.

https://youtu.be/PHOCqyGL9yQ

And here is how they ate

https://youtu.be/PetlInMD84Y
https://youtu.be/In7Mjk5Bv4A

[Anonymous No.11289629]

>>11287910
Eat close to what your particular ancestors ate, but with some understanding of modern nutrition.

[Anonymous No.11289714]

>>11289564
>>11289588
a) Naturalistic fallacy.
b) Civilized people unilaterally live longer, healthier lives.
c) Groups eating high carbohydrate diets unilaterally live longer, healthier lives.
d) Obesity is mainly associated with rising fat consumption.
e) Inuit were dying in their 20s and 30s while having the hearts and arteries of a modern 80 year old (https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2757994))

[Anonymous No.11289724]

>>11289588
That image is because modern medicine means those with teeth problems don’t die from simple infections. Look and old human remains, lots of nasty teeth

[Anonymous No.11289791]

>>11289007
you can find most of it on pubmed. there are videos on youtube by the low carb down under channel, where you can find references. you can look up people like peter gotzsche, georgia ede, and robert whitaker. also paleomedicina in hungary.
there isn't a consensus on this stuff yet, because researchers keep trying to find *the* cause/cure of a disease instead of accepting that complex diseases are multivariate.

[Anonymous No.11289795]

>>11289714
all wrong or very misleading.

[Anonymous No.11289809]

>>11289724
>>11289724
Yea post agriculture teeth are disgusting. Pre are amazing. If you think medieval or roman bodies are old, you're completely wrong.

[Anonymous No.11289813]

>>11289714
wrong on all accounts

[Anonymous No.11289818]

>>11289724
>>11289809

[Anonymous No.11289981]

>>11289818
>>11289809
perhaps I remembered it wrong, interesting

[Anonymous No.11290326]

>>11289550
on the other hand, it's concerning that so many large studies show things like
>people who eat X% more of this have a Y% lower mortality rate
etc.

[Anonymous No.11290585]

>>11290326
almost none of those publications directly study what the headlines say, or the headlines straight up get the study details wrong.

>study 90,000,000,000,000 people
>over 20 years
>ask them questions about every single aspect of their life
>datamine for inter-item correlations
>fucking everything is interrelated
>oh this one sounds zany, send this to the university press association

if your sample size is large enough, you can find a statistically significant relationship between literally any two variables. you should not believe one causes the other until there is sufficient experimental evidence to support such a claim.

experimental. as in science. not cherrypicked datamined p-hacked out of context headlines.

although the Mediterranean diet has been getting interesting results so far...

[Anonymous No.11290627]

>>11287910

what do you think about this?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312295/

[Anonymous No.11290635]

>>11290627
yeah but then what do I (not) eat

[Anonymous No.11290809]

>>11287910
Don't buy food produced in elevated CO2 greenhouses. Elevated CO2 increases yeilds by making plants "fat," i.e. increasing how much energy they store as carbs. But it doesn't increase nutritional uptake, so you get low nutrition, high carb plants.

[Anonymous No.11290811]

>>11288992
It's fructose specifically what you want to avoid, which is one of the monosaccharides in table sugar.

[Anonymous No.11290817]

>>11289001
This.

[Anonymous No.11290893]

>>11287910
All I want to know is, are eggs going to kill me? I get so much fucking conflicting info about these fuckers. One day you're told you can eat as many as you want, the next they say that eating more than 2 a WEEK leads to x% lower life expectancy. I look at the nutrition info and see that 1 medium egg is half the cholesterol DV, then people say "oh but it's the good type of cholesterol". Which one fucking is it? (Obviously "everything in moderation" applies but the cons make it seem like you just shouldn't eat eggs at all.)

I honestly feel like no one fucking knows anything about this shit and it's frustrating. I used to eat 2 eggs a day for breakfast and it really helped me start my day, but now I'm paranoid that these things are slowly killing me so I stopped that. (Instead now I'm just miserable and cranky every morning.)

[Anonymous No.11290932]

>>11287910

remove all sugar

remove all carbs

eat meat, eggs, water, dairy only. animals products like bone marrow, fish, chicken, etc are also ok.

throw in some dark greens once or twice a week.

thank me later

[Anonymous No.11291059]

>>11290932
>dairy only
Right, I forgot that lactose isn't a surgar lol retard.

[Anonymous No.11291190]

>>11287910
Go easy on the spinach because of high cadmium levels lately. We might be able to fix this, but I don't think it is fixed yet. And I am not sure if it is like this all over the world.
https://www.wga.com/magazine/2012/02/16/cadmium-spinach-best-practices-being-explored

[Anonymous No.11291264]

>>11290893
eggs are fine. the cholesterol-heart-health hypothesis is a bunch of shit. cholesterol does have something to do with atherosclerosis, but it's way more complicated than "how much cholesterol is in the food".

>Instead now I'm just miserable and cranky every morning.
listen to your body...

[Anonymous No.11291321]

>>11291190
spinach is very high in oxalates, so you shouldn't eat much of it anyway.

[Anonymous No.11291323]

>>11290635

I guess don't eat anything that contain fat or cholesterol

[Anonymous No.11291335]

>>11290893

you need to cut out all sources of fat and cholesterol and subsist on a diet of potato of onions milk

[Anonymous No.11291340]

>>11290893

you need to cut out all sources of fat and cholesterol and subsist on a diet of potato and $0y milk

[Anonymous No.11291341]

>>11291321
what about canned spinach

[Anonymous No.11291349]

>>11290627
what a load of carefully constructed misleading crock.

>>11291341
not much difference, although raw spinach is worse than cooked.

[Anonymous No.11291355]

I think the only consensus I’ve ever seen is that blueberries are great.

[Anonymous No.11291361]

>>11291349
>although raw spinach is worse than cooked.
hell ya thats all i needed to hear. whats so bad about cadmium?

[Anonymous No.11291764]

Subhumans that become vegan deserve to die.

The only problem is that they don't die fast enough and as agents of the vegan memetic virus they push the market in a direction that will fuck us all.
Fuck vegans and their retarded maladaptative ideas.

[Anonymous No.11291778]

>>11291764
Imagine getting this mad about people being healthier than you

[Anonymous No.11291787]

>>11291778
I know that you are trolling.
But it really makes me mad that we live in an age that we can SEE people dying in real time by their bad decisions and even with empirical real time data people is still retarded.

I swear that there is something more to veganism. My guess is that the memetic virus of veganism is so pervasive because it directly affects the neurological system of the host. Your brain literally start dying, you become more tarded and you keep making bad decisions.
The fact that vegans malnutrition makes them more aggressive doesn't help either.
Almost all antinatalist and antihumans are vegans.
A suicide cult.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iljzuytnBuo

[Anonymous No.11291803]

>>11291787
antinatalists are vegan out of empathy for the animals, I feel like shit everytime i eat meat but i wont stop eating it

[Anonymous No.11291814]

>>11291803
>antinatalists are vegan out of empathy for the animals
humans are an animal
the natural world is BRUTAL as fuck
the whole "empathy for the animals" is a post-hoc rationalization
they just hate people because they are disgusting posmodern city vermin
they are sick animals, simple as that

[Anonymous No.11291816]

>>11291787
Lol apparently I'm the one trolling while you make ridiculous claims such as veganism being malnourishing.

[Anonymous No.11291818]

Stone age tards better start eating all those organs, fat, blood and gristle as well, otherwise, you're not going to get anything remotely close to muh superior jungle bunny diet.

[Anonymous No.11291821]

>>11288094
>Good for those who have a natural high cholesterol and cannot bring it down lower.
Yeah but reducing cholesterol decreases time preference (makes you more impulsive). Only reduce cholesterol if you are OK with becoming slightly dumber and more animalistic in exchange for your longer life.

[Anonymous No.11291825]

>>11291787
Don't educate them, encourage them. As cruel as it may sound, seeing them and the result of their choices is going to be the best deterrent for others in the long term.

[Anonymous No.11292776]

>>11287947
blueberries have antioxidants, nigga

[Anonymous No.11293162]

>>11287910
It's simple.

[Anonymous No.11293193]

>>11293162
I already have that all figured out, my goal is to keep my body and brain in shape etc

[Anonymous No.11293235]

>>11287910
the only thing that matter is the microbiome

Your GI tract is not an engine that simply runs on fuel or calories. It's an ecosystem unique to you.

[Anonymous No.11293238]

>>11293162
This.

As long as what you put in isn't more than what your body uses, you won't gain weight.

[Anonymous No.11293241]

>>11287910
Eating 3 times a day is a meme.
Not eating for 24 hours is healthy and also activates your brain metabolics.

[Anonymous No.11293244]

>>11293235
how to have good microbiome?

[Anonymous No.11293258]

>>11288015
Protip: xylitol doesn't have any of those bad effects and even seems to kill off bacteria causing tooth decay.

[Anonymous No.11293532]

>>11293244
Eat/drink stuff with naturally many cultures (you can buy organic Kefir where I live, it's got almost as many cultures as home-grown Kefir, none of that bacteria powder bullshit)

Another (way more expensive) tip are probiotics, don't fall for the meme of "specific" probiotics for specific ailments, the science is still very young, just get the general variety and take them when you're under an antibiotic treatment to prevent C. Difficile and similar "makes you fat and stupid" diseases that antibiotics can cause (Don't get me wrong, taking a few antibiotic treatments in a lifetime is usually not harmful, anything above that and you're taking risks)

[Owner of Physics No.11293582]

>>11293244
Take supplements for them
Eating yogurt does literally nothing

[Anonymous No.11293585]

>>11293582
Shit, forgot to take off the name after making fun of this faggot

[Anonymous No.11293905]

>>11293582
>Eating yogurt does literally nothing
kek

[Anonymous No.11294082]

Seems to be a lot of emerging evidence that controlling inflammation through diet is pretty key to overall long term health.

[Anonymous No.11294457]

>>11287947
fpbp

[Anonymous No.11294492]

>>11293162
This absurdly oversimplified rubbish completely neglects how the feedback between appetite and intake operates, and is modulated by all the particulars of diet. It makes sense only if, at some arbitrarily late stage in the development of obesity, for instance if you're 50 and pregnant with the meals of decades past, your intake is abruptly, and forever more, enforced by prison guards from a menu dictated by someone else, who isn't shopping for themselves.

[Anonymous No.11294496]

>>11287910
if you drink diet coke, you burp and mock throw up

[Anonymous No.11294514]

[Anonymous No.11294550]

>>11291355
I used to pick them in the forest with grandma and then eat them in a big bowl with cream and sugar

[Anonymous No.11294561]

Ray peat has the most convincing theory of diet and health that I've come across. It's all about controlling stress and improving metabolism. Stress is basically pillaging your own body for energy that you usually won't even spend (so it then gets deposited as fat after it was liberated from your organs and muscles) while a high anabolic metabolism just gives plenty of energy to all your organs to do just what they want to do, which is be healthy.

[Anonymous No.11294586]

Are apples really that great? Seems like a whole lot of sugar for little value to me.

[Anonymous No.11294610]

>>11294586
No, better eat raw meat, those extra proteins from the tapeworms are much better than that shitty fructose.

[Anonymous No.11294636]

>>11291355
Same. Except for pesticides, but that's a different matter.
>>11294586
Quite low on vitamins and minerals, but there's some other nice less memed stuff in it. I think apples tend to have a lot of pesticides though.

[Anonymous No.11295553]

don't forget your two daily Brazil nuts

[Anonymous No.11295557]

>>11295553
>huehuehuehue

[Anonymous No.11295564]

>>11290893

low-density cholesterol bad. high-density cholesterol good

[Anonymous No.11295624]

>>11295553
Radioactive af:)

[Anonymous No.11295664]

>>11295564
Not true.

[Anonymous No.11295700]

>>11287988
>>11292776
Neither omega 3-6 ratio or antioxidant supplementation bear out in practice.

A couple of those "nice in theory but..."

[Anonymous No.11295703]

>>11295664
Yes it is true.

[Anonymous No.11295729]

>>11289319
>B12 due to supplements.
why do you spread this shit? ruminants are supplemented with mineral cobalt they don't need b12

[Anonymous No.11295735]

>>11291059
glucose and galactose are managed better than fructose

[Anonymous No.11295742]

>>11295729
They need those cobalt supplements to produce B12.

[Anonymous No.11295743]

>>11293244
the other retards are wrong eat the right diet and you'll be dine what they want is the small dietary fibre

[Anonymous No.11295749]

>>11295742
Generally they don't even need the mineral, only when the soil type is deficient in cobalt.
At this stage pushing the b12 supplementation crap for ruminants is just stupid.

[Anonymous No.11296000]

>>11295700
>Neither omega 3-6 ratio or antioxidant supplementation bear out in practice.
That might be true, but do you have evidence for it? At least there are evidence that omega 6 to 3 ratio is important in normal foods.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12442909

If you present evidence for that supplementation does not work I will of course accept it. It certainly is not uncommon to get things backwards in nutritional science. A famous example the particular error I believe you are suggesting is with the antioxidant Beta Carotene. High Beta Carotene levels in the blood is associated with better health, although supplementation does not yield the same effects.

[Anonymous No.11296007]

>>11295700

>>11296000 Cont.
Btw, many omega 3 "supplements" are kinda normal food. Like fish-oil is oil from fish. Walnuts, flaxseeds and chiaseeds are whole foods.

[Anonymous No.11296023]

>>11294561
Stress depletes body of copper. See the other thread. >>>>11281992

[Anonymous No.11296175]

>>11287910
No. I mean you can track down all the known "you need X and Y to process Z better" but you can also skip that part and just start a variable diet with lots of fresh things . Maybe researching helps with motivation though.

[Anonymous No.11296263]

I never eat any fish and I can't find any sources on what Omega-3 and Omega-6 actually does in your body. Everything just says they're good for your memory or something and then nothing else.
What do they do? Are they necessary or just ideal? Does lacking them cause permanent detriment?

[Anonymous No.11296325]

>>11296023
Yeah, I believe I already read something like that from him or his followers

[Anonymous No.11296339]

>>11296263
https://omegavia.com/deficiency-symptoms/

[Anonymous No.11296345]

>>11296339
I'm wondering what Omega-3 and Omega-6 does on a biological level though, I do get that these symptoms obviously are an issue but I want to know precisely what they do, and if they're required to do that specific thing.
Apparently specifically Omega-3 is necessary according to some sources, but it never says what it's even used for in the body which infuriates me. Is it used for glial cells or to relieve blood clots? Nothing states anything.

[Anonymous No.11296354]

>>11296345
Polyunsaturated fatty acids are actually pure aids and add loads of oxidative stress to you, as well as inhibiting thyroid hormone. Fish oils like that have a lower cooling point than our fats due to the ocean environment, but in warm blooded animals like us they oxidize very easily. But this is only cold water fish, for warm water fish that we likely consumed during the majority of our evolution they wouldn't need that cold resistance and contained far less of those fats

[Anonymous No.11296358]

>>11296354
Right, and what implications does this have on your biology?
I'm most interested in what it does to the brain.

[Anonymous No.11296376]

>>11296358
Is supposedly extremely bad for you, google ray peats website and you should find some articles

[Anonymous No.11296388]

>>11296376
So, Omega-3 is just overhyped and I can just continue eating other fats?
It just seems like "yet another fatty acid" that should be consumed in moderation but isn't necessary to function properly.

[Anonymous No.11296406]

>>11296388
Yes, no. According to his research you should avoid all polyunsaturated fats and eat butter, coconut oil and olive oil instead (saturated and monounsaturated). It's not just the omega 3s.

[Anonymous No.11296422]

>>11296388
Yes, preferably you should only eat chicken nuggets so you will die soon and stop shitting up this board with your retarded posts.

[Anonymous No.11296429]

[Anonymous No.11296441]

>>11296422
I've never eaten a chicken nugget

[Anonymous No.11296529]

>>11296422
>nutrition discussion
>no discussing nutrients

[Anonymous No.11296560]

This thread is a complete mess. Is this the state of nutritional science in 2020? Damn..

[Anonymous No.11296597]

>>11296560
>Is this the state of nutritional science in 2020?
I have no idea. Do you?

[Anonymous No.11296602]

eat real food, not too much. Lots of plants.

[Anonymous No.11296627]

eat real food, not too much. Lots of meat.

[Anonymous No.11296640]

it’s spooky desu, some research shows that anything “burned” (ie roasting vegetables) is bad for you

[Anonymous No.11296657]

>>11296560
>Is this the state of nutritional science in 2020?
Yes

[Anonymous No.11296660]

>>11296640
Obscure mechanistic nonsense like that is of secondary importance.

[Anonymous No.11296669]

>>11296640
Yeah, roasted meat seems to be the worst of all. When meat goes hard.

[Anonymous No.11296675]

>>11288079
>mfw it’s real
why did you do this to me

[Anonymous No.11296717]

>>11296640
https://youtu.be/U0jsOxPuTqI?t=32

[Anonymous No.11296745]

>>11287910
Sucrose (refined sugar) can elevate the risk of bladder cancer. Calories are not indicative of the energy content of food, dietary fiber is non-digestable, but can still be oxidized in bomb calorimeters. A better assay would be to utilize chemical components of food fractions that are metabolized by the body.

Boiling food an leach water-soluble vitamins from vegetbles, so steaming/roasting of vegetables retains more beneficial vitamins.

[Anonymous No.11296807]

>>11296745
>[Energy content] is not indicative of the energy content of food
kek

[Anonymous No.11296844]

>>11287910
Eat dietary fiber my dude

[Anonymous No.11297066]

What’s the best “daily bread”

[Anonymous No.11297077]

idgaf what people say, if you just don’t eat as many calories as your TDEE is you lose weight lol

[Anonymous No.11297903]

anything to slap in my daily oats to fulfill some nutrient or whatever?

[Anonymous No.11298196]

>>11297903
Nutella