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How does gravity escape from black hole?

>> No.11273987

>>11273984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gr3jopJmVg

>> No.11273997

Or maybe black holes are actually more massive than they appear?

>> No.11273999

>>11273984
Same way blacks escape from their cultural roots. They don't.

>> No.11274026

>>11273999
That may be true, but neither did you.
Though I expected no less from this board.

>> No.11274034

>>11273984
Good thread, for troling and to exercise your mind, I'm asking to /sci/ elders, nerds and trolls to assembe in this thread

>> No.11274087

>>11274026
So you're not disappointed. Weird.

>> No.11274096
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11274096

>>11274087
I expected dissapointment to soften the blow

>> No.11274102

>>11274096
Side fact: I actually did. I come from a poor family with no knowledge of academia or science or anything really and worked my way up (against their wishes) to being a PhD student now in a country that doesn't necessitate debt for that.

>> No.11274106

>>11274102
whwre is this cunt tree

>> No.11274109

>>11274106
i grew up in kangolpis, capital city of kangolia

>> No.11274124

>>11274102
And yet no degrees were able extinguish the redneck in you

>> No.11274157

>>11274124
Never forget where you come from.

>>11274106
Europe.

>> No.11275329

>>11273984
Gravity doesn't "escape" since it is just the a measurement of a phenomenon. It is like you said, "How do inches escape a mile on the road?"

>> No.11275583

>>11273984
That's Ali

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>>11274096

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>>11273987
hmmmmmmm wut is this tripfag trying to communicate

>> No.11275721

>>11273984
>How does gravity escape from black hole?
black holes don't exist. neither does gravity. where have you been?

>> No.11276241

>>11275329
By being faster

>> No.11276245

>>11273984
Gravity is the warping of spacetime due to mass. It is not a particle that has velocity, so escape velocity being higher than live speed simply has no significance to it.

>> No.11276386

>>11276241
Than light?

>>11276245
That means you are getting information about the mass that is beyond event horizon. That should not be happening due to... wrapping of spacetime.

>> No.11276408

>>11276245
But how then gravity can be explained in quantum mechanics? So the graviton doesnt exist? By QM the graviton then should interact with space instead any other body.

>> No.11276492

>>11276245
Disturbance to this warping propagates at the speed of light though. Waht do you think will happen when when the mass gets beyond the event horizon and no disturbances from whatever's happening to it can reach the outside anymore?

>> No.11276584

It’s radiation you dumb fucking nigger

>> No.11276642
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11276642

>how does the graviton get out of the black hole, if not even light can
How will gravitonfags ever recover?

>> No.11276651

>>11276642
It's not about graviton. How does any information about the matter inside of a black hole travel outside it? Scientists have observed gravitational waves which propagate with the speed of light, not instantanously.

>> No.11276662

>>11276651
Black holes aren't real. A distant observer can never calculate one forming in finite time due to time dilation. Matter just gets asymptotically closer to forming a black hole and the emitted light is quickly redshifted away and eventually the last photon is emitted so you can't detect any matter except gravitationally. The result is what looks to be a black hole but is in reality something we'll call a dark grey hole. There is no singularity.

>> No.11276664

>>11273984
for you to have created this picture, you had to cut out the original, which means you gazed upon his gaping red hole for at least 10mins
sucks to be you

>> No.11276711

>>11276408
The graviton, if it exists, attracts light towards the center of the black hole, it can’t attract itself. It’s like a photon shining light on another photon — tautological

>> No.11276713

The interior of a blackhole doesn't really exist. The event horizon is an edge to spacetime and matter that falls into a blackhole gets smeared over it.

>> No.11276718

>>11276662
>there is no singularity
Are you sure about that

>> No.11277072

>>11276664
You overestimate my creativity. An image like that is easy to find.

>> No.11277084

>>11276662
>we'll call a dark grey hole
You will. Other than that it's not a bad explanation. I can imagine the gravitational field of a black hole to be only a relict of the star it used to be. Still it bugs me, that a potential energy was created, but the source is no longer there. This is not that far from infinite energy from nothing.

>> No.11278395

>>11276711
But is not generally accepted that gravity interacts with space time directly, and through this with other bodies?

>> No.11278968

How come wet escapes the water, amerimutt.?

>> No.11279001

>>11277072
confirmed, both transposable goatse hands and the goatse version of the black hole picture used as OP, which existed mere hours after the original release of the image back in april last year.