/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.11266901]

>OMG, you guys, the Earth did another lap around the sun!!! WE NEED TO CELEBRATE!!!!!

[Anonymous No.11266909]

>>11266901
This, why do normies make a big deal out of this? I feel like it's just another reason to engage in mindless hedonism.

[Anonymous No.11266912]

Wojak posters need to go back to their containment site reddit.com

[Anonymous No.11266922]

>>11266901
>>11266909
Wow big brain take show society what up

[Anonymous No.11266933]

>In this next phase of our arbitrarily chosen measurement of time, I will be a new and different person!

[Anonymous No.11266935]

>>11266901
There is value in traditions and culture

[Anonymous No.11266938]

>>11266933
Why these monstrosities of 'meme's are exchanged here on 4chan will always be beyond me. Frogposters are funnier.

[Anonymous No.11266939]

Imagine being so joyless that you can't celebrate with the rest of the world. Hope you have someone to kiss tonight, /sci/~

[Anonymous No.11266952]

>>11266935
this

[Anonymous No.11266956]

>>11266901
And what's bad about that?

[Anonymous No.11266959]

[Anonymous No.11266971]

>>11266959
he must be smart

[Anonymous No.11266979]

>>11266901
>Happy New Year!
Thanks, but to someone as intelligent as me (I have a tested IQ of 168), I can recognize that something a like the Earth making a complete orbit around the Sun is utterly meaningless. This day is in no way at all astronomically important, and the fact that other humans decide to celebrate this day makes me admire them in pity. Humans are just slightly intelligent animals on a tiny planet in a solar system that inhabits 1 galaxy, out of the billions of galaxies that are there. The universe has existed for 13 billion years, which basically means that this amount of time has passed 13 BILLION TIMES! Our lives are so insignificant and, honestly, nothing that happens really matters at all. Rather than get excited over another meaningless, pointless day that we humans have, as a group, decided to be special, I shall continue to live on knowing that those that aren't blessed with my intellect will never be able to experience the true meaning of life and existence itself.

[Anonymous No.11266994]

>>11266979
We are not celebrating pointless orbit, but something totally else. Same number once again. Humans are obsessed with repetition, and scientific method can speak for it.

[Anonymous No.11266999]

>>11266994
>scientific method
Not a real thing. Read Feyerabend.

[Anonymous No.11267004]

>>11266901
faggot

[Anonymous No.11267030]

>>11266979
I know that you're shitposting, but I know people who unironically think this way and it's saddening.

[Anonymous No.11267036]

>>11266935
This. If OP was truly the autist he's acting like, he would have naturally reverse engineered man and his organization by now, and would recognize that these events and rituals are interfaces. Mediums for breaking from established structures. No different than moving by swimming because you're underwater, the collectively held context and expectation has been altered.

To an extent you might say "I don't need that to do what makes sense, they're the problem", and you may be right. However chances are you have your own rituals and transitionary spaces you use to organize your internal state, objects you put in your environment, sounds you listen to.

I have recently recognized that this is the way my psyche is actually structured, I project myself onto the environment and view it as a representation of my internal structure. By altering it, I may alter myself. Because of this most of what I do is arranged as an "arc". I leave the house, I walk up a hill to the open sky, see the moon and the stars and so forth. (Possibility, false clarity). then I descend down, down to the depths, the "substructure", and walk through the woods. It acts upon you accordingly, it is a transitionary space, and you emerge changed. This is just different for a common, simple, everyday experience. And of course it does invoke a higher power and a higher order. You have finite control of your nature, and even less control of the environment.

That's what ritual is.

[Anonymous No.11267042]

>>11266901
There is nothing more patently sōy than doing the reddit “oh so you like [fun tradition]? sure would be a shame if i rephrased it in a way that makes it sound arbitrary” neil degrasse tyson thing

[Anonymous No.11267044]

>>11267036
different language for a common*

[Anonymous No.11267049]

>>11267030
The post was somewhat based on Neil Degrasse Tyson's tweets

[Anonymous No.11267057]

>>11267049
God what a pedantic husk of a man
I’d love to be able to marvel at my own cleverness for hours on end like he seems to

[Anonymous No.11267067]

>>11266909
>I feel like it's just another reason to engage in mindless hedonism.

So what? People want to have fun, and they will, and you complaining about it only showcases how fucked up your life is.

[Anonymous No.11267070]

>>11266935
No there isn’t. Traditions and cultures have zero intrinsic value.

[Anonymous No.11267073]

>>11267067
I agree with him. We've got real problems here, there's nothing to celebrate. These rituals aren't amounting to anything of use. Yes, life should be fun, but there is a cost to keeping it that way.

[Anonymous No.11267075]

>>11266979
People actually think like this and it’s sad.

[Anonymous No.11267083]

>>11267070
>whats socialization?

[Anonymous No.11267084]

>>11267083
?

[Anonymous No.11267087]

>>11267070
This type of thinking is why Drag Queen Story Time is a thing

[Anonymous No.11267089]

>>11267084
Of course you wouldn't know the importance of being social.

[Anonymous No.11267091]

>>11267084
Socialization and it's inverse, individuation. Read more, wojakcel

[Anonymous No.11267094]

>>11267089
Oops, wrong guy. I agree with you. People who cant fathom why someone would celebrate New Year's are probably autistic.

[Anonymous No.11267098]

>>11267073
>I agree with him.

Do you really, or are you shitposting?

> We've got real problems here, there's nothing to celebrate.

There is always something to celebrate.

> These rituals aren't amounting to anything of use.

No one gives a single fuck except for nihilistic misanthropic youths shiitposting on the Internet. They are fun and that’s what matters.

> Yes, life should be fun, but there is a cost to keeping it that way.

We pay it

[Anonymous No.11267099]

>>11267098
>We pay it
No you don't.

[Anonymous No.11267100]

>>11267083
Socializing isn’t a cultural tradition. Even ants do it.

[Anonymous No.11267105]

>>11267099
Yes I do now go outside and have fun

[Anonymous No.11267108]

>>11267087
>This behavior not exhibited in my caveman tribe
>This behavior bad Grrrrrr

Thank God traditions are dying out

[Anonymous No.11267109]

>>11267105
The analogy would continue that you're living on borrowed money, and rapidly accruing interest you will never be able to pay off.

[Anonymous No.11267114]

It has always annoyed me that the new year doesn't start at the end of winter

[Anonymous No.11267117]

>>11267100
But traditions reinforce social groups. It brings people together. It allows us to be more closely knitted and thus trust each other more.

[Anonymous No.11267121]

>a hurr durr I dont like having fun NOOOOOO it's not le logical

[Anonymous No.11267122]

>>11267109
Don’t care. I will be dead eventually after blowing my load a million times, at which point I will become a daemon in the Realm of Slaanesh

[Anonymous No.11267124]

>>11267114
The new year can start literally on any day the year. Current date is arbitrary, but pretty close to the day of winter solstice.

[Anonymous No.11267125]

>>11267117
How can the state acquire absolute control over your daily life if you're capable of forming stable, external power structures? How can people who trust each other be broken up, manipulated, propagandized??

You have to think this way. My generation is toast, I gotta tell ya. Good thing I don't want to be alive anyway.

[Anonymous No.11267126]

>>11267117
>But traditions reinforce social groups. It brings people together.

Traditions have zero role in any social group of mine, unless you count liking the same things and hedonism as traditions

[Anonymous No.11267128]

>>11267126
So you don't have in jokes or anything like that.

[Anonymous No.11267129]

>>11267125
>You have to think this way.
Why? Screw what the state wants, it exists to serve the people.

[Anonymous No.11267131]

>>11267125
>How can the state acquire absolute control over your daily life if you're capable of forming stable, external power structures?

You mean like corporations??????
It’s curious that in the real world, totalitarianism has only arose in fiercely nationalistic places like China, the USSR, and Nazi Germany, and never manifested as le spooky multiculturalism.

[Anonymous No.11267132]

>>11267126
You are your friends sound hella f*cking boring

[Anonymous No.11267134]

>>11267126
Does your group share memes that only make sense in the context of the group? Does your group have a preferred spot to hang around in? Does your group share a hobby that you all enjoy doing? If yes to any of those, then your group has a tradition. Traditions naturally grow from human interactions, and practicing good ones results in a healthy group.

[Anonymous No.11267135]

>>11267128
If an in-joke qualifies as a “tradition”, then sure. My point is that traditions and culture have no intrinsic value, not that no features of current traditions and cultures aren’t worth preserving to some extent. “It’s good because it is tradition” is one of the oldest fallacies.

[Anonymous No.11267138]

>>11267134
>and practicing good ones results in a healthy group.

There’s the catch.
Tradition=/=good.

[Anonymous No.11267142]

>>11267124
But wouldn't it make sense to start at the beginning of spring?

[Anonymous No.11267144]

>>11267135
>muh informal fallacies
"How to spot a weak argument."
People celebrate New Year's because it is fun. This is where the value lies.

[Anonymous No.11267146]

>>11266901
>>11266933
heh. soiboys are women with a penis, women are soiboys without a penis.

[Anonymous No.11267148]

>>11267138
True. Traditions don't necessarily mean that they're good, but some ARE good and just casting all traditions away is an easy way to result in an unhealthy social life.

[Anonymous No.11267154]

>>11267144
>People celebrate New Year's because it is fun. This is where the value lies.

Yes, I agree. Celebrations are generally worth preserving in some form or another because they are fun. I don’t give a shit if it’s arbitrary and that’s just a cope from shut-ins and misanthropes with depression

[Anonymous No.11267162]

>>11267142
Yes, people of the past had a new year at the beginning of spring, basically when they started to sow crops.

[Anonymous No.11267222]

>>11266959
how can a brown boy be so based?

[Anonymous No.11267229]

>>11266901
>>11266933
Literal textbook definitions of "midwit".

[Anonymous No.11267242]

>>11266979
Chad is celebrating by blowing a load in your oneitis, enjoy your existence

[Anonymous No.11267245]

>>11267075
how is he wrong though

[Anonymous No.11267253]

>>11267245
Not him, but he's wrong because his views ignore the social aspect of celebrating the new years, and thus shows a level of anti-social behavior that isn't healthy.

[Anonymous No.11267255]

>>11267121
>me no think
>me consume produkt
>me conform
>me hab funn
>me ingest mind-altering substance in the presence of other apes to avoid killing myself

[Anonymous No.11267263]

>>11267255
You sound like you have a well-balanced social life with lots of friends.

[Anonymous No.11267266]

>>11267263
What a Reddit post

[Anonymous No.11267268]

>>11267263
>me derive perzonal value brom practicing socially abbroved behaviourz

[Anonymous No.11267272]

>>11266979
>I can recognize that something a like the Earth making a complete orbit around the Sun is utterly meaningless
Despite having low IQ, I understand that the concept of 'New Year' is pointless.
This means, either you have a lower IQ than stated or else I have a higher IQ. I'm pretty sure I don't

[Anonymous No.11267282]

You guys recognize that parties and celebrations have a 'rational function', right? As opportunities to strengthen relationships, or make new ones. Even a total asocial loser like me can see that.

[Anonymous No.11267283]

>>11267272
just because a dumb person understands the ideas expressed by a smart person, that doesn't mean that they are both at the same level

[Anonymous No.11267286]

>all these ideologically enriched soiboys defending cringe memes like new years because of muh tradition

[Anonymous No.11267288]

>>11267282
This is 4chan(nel). Do you really expect most of it's posters to recognize the importance of having relationships?

[Anonymous No.11267289]

>>11267282
what is annoying is the mystification and overexageration of an arbitrary date

[Always-Always, Elder No.11267293]

>>11266901
The 2020 sunrise was fucking beautiful btw. Totally worth the sleep deprivation. Did it with brother and sister. Happy times.

But, yes, agreed it is just the arbitrary collective opinion of a certain set of measurements that people 'make' meaning out of.

>Which, I deduce, is the fucking point after all.

[Anonymous No.11267313]

>>11267087
no it's not.
drag, lgbt positivity, acceptance, etc are all the replacement of christian irrational subjective values with humanist irrational subjective values. btw humanism is the direct product of christian slave morality

[Anonymous No.11267318]

>>11266901
Fuck off retard

[Anonymous No.11267323]

>>11267255
>Look how smart I am for being a depressed pedantic shitposter

Mocking people who actually enjoy their life is always cope from depressed people who stay inside

[Anonymous No.11267324]

>>11267293
where do you live?

[Always-Always, Elder No.11267333]

>>11267324
For like the billionth fucking time. 104 Elizabeth St, COBURG. You can google map the rest.

Fuck me dead why the hell does everyone want to know where I live? It is the MOST frustrating question for me to ever answer because I feel like I'm just filling in a questionnaire those street-charity people ask for signatures and shit.

[Anonymous No.11267342]

>>11267049
Lmao black science man is an incel who never got a new years kiss

[Anonymous No.11267346]

>>11267323
If you need an arbitrary date to give yourself the permission to start "enjoying" (which usually just means consuming alcohol in a social setting) life then your daily life isn't that great.

[Always-Always, Elder No.11267351]

>>11267346
That's the most depressing mapping I've ever seen someone express. You okay, buddy?

[Anonymous No.11267389]

>>11267346
>If you need an arbitrary date to give yourself the permission to start "enjoying"

I don’t. No one does.

[Always-Always, Elder No.11267390]

>>11267389
But they 'prefer' them, heavily.

[Anonymous No.11267396]

>>11267108
Yes, thank god we are allowing mentally ill transgender pedophiles to roam around in public

[Always-Always, Elder No.11267401]

>>11267396
Haha, is THAT the worst people have said about me? I'm somewhat shocked at the honest opinion people have of me, but only by virtue of being bored by its amazingly mundane expression of nothingness.

[Anonymous No.11267416]

>>11267049
>imagine being Neil deGrasse Tyson
>imagine having no scientific accomplishment of your own
>imagine shilling self-congratulatory pop-sci garbage to an audience of fat neckbeard high schoolers who don't know any better
I would just kill myself

[Always-Always, Elder No.11267419]

>>11267416
I literally have no clue what he gets out of his audience. Has to be fucking something worthwhile though, no? Otherwise why the fuck would anyone command that amount of attention and opinion without ever getting shat on by any impactful metric.

It's like low-key idunno.

[Anonymous No.11267451]

>>11267396
:)

[Anonymous No.11267456]

>>11267390
That’s tradition. Better than never doing it

[Anonymous No.11267457]

>>11267416
As apposed to you, the frogposter, with many scientific achievements

[Anonymous No.11267468]

>>11267416
you are just jelly cause nobody will remember you, meanwhile he is the kang of blaks

[Always-Always, Elder No.11267469]

>>11267456
No, that is just stubborn ignorance in the face of reality melting around everything/everywhere.

[Anonymous No.11267481]

What makes this thread suitable for /sci/?
Is it the wojak? Does it make anything ok for /sci/

[Always-Always, Elder No.11267494]

>>11267481
Well, my legal name is Simon and /sci/ is a syllabicate where you can append a simple 'mon' and get the correct phonetic japanese translation of my name. Meaning if it has any impact on 'these dimensional spreads' then they exist because it does make me happy. Science is cool.

[Anonymous No.11267498]

>>11267469
> No, that is just stubborn ignorance in the face of reality melting around everything/everywhere.

Last I checked, reality isn’t melting. If I notice reality melting, though, I’ll make sure to alarm the local police.

[Anonymous No.11267503]

>>11267457
yes

[Always-Always, Elder No.11267506]

>>11267498
Why? Why would you need a group of humans to come and save you, God? From yourself.

[Always-Always, Elder No.11267525]

>>11267498
Also, why bother going to upset the local police? Can nobody else handle you, God?