Asperger's vs autism

[Anonymous No.11260284]

the fuck's the difference?

[Anonymous No.11260331]

>>11260284
second sentence from the wiki on Asperger's:
>As a milder autism spectrum disorder (ASD), it differs from other ASDs by relatively normal language and intelligence.

[Anonymous No.11260361]

>>11260284
Asperger's wins.

[Anonymous No.11260366]

>autism vs dyslexia
this is the real divide

[Anonymous No.11260377]

>>11260366
One causes debilitating virginity, the other doesnt

[Anonymous No.11260383]

>>11260284
There's no longer a distinction. People who were diagnosed with asperger's are now considered autistic.

[Anonymous No.11260385]

>>11260284
definition dilution, now that it's hip to be on the 'spectrum'

[Anonymous No.11260399]

>>11260385
fukking this. attention whores will fucking grab at anything for some of that sweet sweet juicy fucking attention jesus fucking christ kill me

[Anonymous No.11260708]

>>11260383
Autism is now considered to be a spectrum,and Asperger's is now recognized as a disorder that exists on the mild end of the autism spectrum.

[Anonymous No.11260913]

>>11260399
haha this so much this lole :DD
>jesus christ fucken kill me
wher do you live lmao can i bring my knoife (in minecraft)
(epic frog by btw way)

[Anonymous No.11261145]

>>11260284
Aspergers is included in Autism.

Autism covers range from 0-100. Aspergers cover from 70-100. Its a subgroup thats been folded back into Autism. Its similar/same as "high functioning" autists.

[Anonymous No.11261178]

>>11260284
>>11260331
They're the opposite of each other, as an aspie, you already talk as a proffesor by your ten (or not depending on the vocabulary you're exposed to, but in any case you speak much better than anybody else, since your brain can use both hemispheres for language processing), as an autist you may not speak at all and there is obviously something wrong with you. Normies cannot tell the difference between the two.
>>11260366

>>autism vs dyslexia
>this is the real divide
Most aspies are technically dyslexic, (may have trouble hearing anything below syllables, which is actually mostly an illusion anyway) but can easily compensate with memory.

[Anonymous No.11261265]

>>11260284
High functioning autism vs low functioning autism, the fuck is the difference?

[Anonymous No.11261273]

>>11261178
They're not the opposite, aspergers is a form of autism.

[Anonymous No.11261300]

>>11260284
is it possible both are false and are just snowflake modern ways of requesting special treatment just because youre shy

[Anonymous No.11261303]

like, why are most of the "aspergers" in western highly developed societies taht woudl tend to repress basic instincts and therefore favour shy people whod ont know how to deal with this?

like, in tropical countries were peopel live like niggers and fuck unprotected at the beach they you dont see many kids grabbing their heads because they dont understand society

[Anonymous No.11261333]

>>11261300
>>11261303
>if I dont have it, it doesnt exist!!
neck yourself retard

[Anonymous No.11261341]

>>11261333
let me guess, you claim to have this imaginary disease?, because if you do remember that the character that youre acting out is supposed to be "shy but highly intelligent" which you are not demostrating by failing to understand basic logic.

[Anonymous No.11261396]

>>11261303
Because the west is a society of animals that train each other up to behave as if they were not animals. You are still assumed to break the rules all the time and have your animal instincts to succesfully survive in it.

[Anonymous No.11261402]

>>11261303
>>11261396
As an aspie:
1. you don't knwo when it's "normal" to behave like an animal
2. You are terrified by the animalistic reactions of others
3. You don't want to behave like an animal in the first place, which scares normies.
4. Normies to a large degree rely on everyone helping not to cause the animalistic responses in others. Which mean that you often get punished for things that other people did, and even if you later learn it isn't just completely random hate, you don't know how to deal with it anyway, because from your perspective the reactions are more or less completely random and unpredictable. (and even if you can predict them, it seems it should be the other person's repsonsibility not to act on them)

[Anonymous No.11261409]

>>11260385
Even though "spectrum" implies everyone's on it

[Anonymous No.11261415]

>>11261273
Yes, they are. Aspies means your cerebellum is in control of the brain. Which makes them more mature early on, as their conscious mind is in control, but they cannot function among normies, who first behave uncontrolled, like animals, and later develop the dichotomy between their moral, conscious part and the animal, as their brains try to compensate, creating areas that are cerebellum controlled in their left frontal lobe, and largely autonomous, animalistic unconscious in the rest of the brain.
Autism means the cerebellum cannot control the brain at all, or even worse than in normies.

[Anonymous No.11261636]

>>11260913

[Anonymous No.11261641]

>>11261273
Autism has become a blurred and very fuzzy term. The inclusion of Asperger's into it has turned this even worse since now a socially reclusive engineer or librarian of above-average intelligence is subsumed under the same category as a 20-year-old incontinent mentally retarded person. That it's (allegedly) a spectrum doesn't turn things more right since most people handle things in a yes or no way and not in a more or less.

[Anonymous No.11261649]

>>11261178
>(may have trouble hearing anything below syllables, which is actually mostly an illusion anyway) but can easily compensate with memory.
bro get the fuck out of my head lol this is exactly what goes down when im going out of my way to try to listen to people. i fucking hate people who talk low and under their breath liek im supposed to fucking pick up on it

[Anonymous No.11262170]

>>11261649
The consonants are barely audible in reality, most people learn yo dream them up when they cannod be heard. Learn to listen to whole words/syllables/morphemes, whatever works best for ypu and your language.
Get a fft (spectrogram) app and record some speech. There is nothing that correonds to letters in the actual sound (compare e.g dee/doo/dah).
You are supposed to hear larger chunks of language, likely something corresponding to chinese characters. Hearing anything smaller is learned and not natural. It may actually be the reason why dyslexics (who are immune) and illiterates can speak with considerably more ease, without all those ums and ehs, as whatever is supposed to process morphemes is hijacked to process phonemes, which requires an unnaturally high speed of processing and adds an extra layer of processing getting from the phonemes to words.

[Anonymous No.11262300]

>>11260284
>>11260331
>>11260366
>>11260383
>>11260708
>>11261145
>>11261178
>>11261265
>>11261273
>>11261415
>>11261641
>>11261649
>>11262170
The inclusion of Aspergers into autism was in error. Aspies usually try to interact with other chldren at first, but face rejection, either real or imagined (as other children are too socially incompetent and insensitive compared to them) or try to talk about things other children just cannot understand, and eventually isolate themselves, ro try to befriend adults instead of other children. It seems the typical aspergers is more like very severe dyslexia, rather than mild autism. (many aspies are capable of near instant visual search and other forms of seemingly highly holistic processing)

[Anonymous No.11262306]

>>11262300
>ro try to befriend adults instead of other children
story of my life. t. 30 year old virgin sperg. I'm workin on shit though, hopin to find me a nice juicy mature pawg bbw while playin blackjack and eventually slam fucking her into oblivion LOL

[Anonymous No.11262730]

>>11262306
based boomer

[Anonymous No.11262831]

>>11260284
How do I get diagnosed with Aspergers? I'm 99% sure I'm a bonafide sperg and I want to get on NEETbux as soon as possible.

[Anonymous No.11262836]

>>11260284
Your mom that's what. Actually I think my mother might be literally autistic, explains a lot.

[Anonymous No.11264077]

>>11260284
You’re mom has both

[Anonymous No.11265501]

>>11260284
Aspergers are a group withing a group.

That group being high functioning autistics.

The difference is apsergers have different personality traits.

[Anonymous No.11265506]

>>11261178
Not really.

I spoke well when I was young and almost lost my ability to speak in my early 20s.

I now speak well again.

[Anonymous No.11265516]

>>11261641
You can be incontinent, autistic, and still be intelligent.

You can still have odd sensory input and processing without being a retard.

[Anonymous No.11265564]

>>11265516
That's a pretty gif

[Anonymous No.11265638]

>>11261641
>socially reclusive engineer of above-average intelligence
Right in the feels... I just want to do design buildings in AutoCAD and watch them become real...

[Anonymous No.11265658]

>>11260366
>autism
>god’s chosen race
>visual thinkers
>fascination with machinery and animals
>heightened sensory perception
>robust against psychosis
>dyslexia
>low iq
>afraid of symbolic representations of abstractions
>can’t into information compression
>claim to be visual thinkers
>visual reasoning is highly g loaded so this is not possible
>universally the spawn of stupid parents
>represent the degeneration of man under domestication

[Anonymous No.11266360]

>>11265658
They are similar, only more or less extreme.
Dyslexics also tend to be good engineers and have heightened, more holistic sensory perception, only not to the extreme degree it can be found in aspies.

Both tend to be great langauges, but completely unable to learn them from books and need to hear the langauge instead.

It also seems aspies are usually children who learned to read early, so they may have the same trouble with speaking the typical dyslexics have with reading.

>>visual reasoning is highly g loaded so this is not possible

It isn't dyslexia when you are too dumb to read.

>>universally the spawn of stupid parents

You cannot be fascinated by machines, physics and math if your parents never exposed you to anything like that.

[Anonymous No.11266366]

>>11265516

[Anonymous No.11266712]

I'm checking all the boxes with the the aspie thing itt. But I thought that autistic people can't comprehend other people's emotions? Because I definitely can do that. Too well even.

[Anonymous No.11267522]

>>11266712
Autists can understand that someone is feeling an emotion, but cannot understand HOW they feel.

[Anonymous No.11267530]

>>11267522
What if they can understand how people feel but can't bring themselves to care?

[Anonymous No.11267579]

>>11267522
The reverse. They understand how people feel, but not why, or the reasons seem retarded or absurd.

[Anonymous No.11267676]

>>11260284
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1750946719301540

[Anonymous No.11267681]

It’s a gradient. It’s the same as when every stupid bitch says “lol i’m like so OCD hahahha” except it just means she’s tidy.

[Anonymous No.11268292]

>>11265658
>low IQ
no correlation
UK study showed 20% of the poppulation have some form of dyslexia and yet 40% of self made millionaires had some form of dyslexia.

[Anonymous No.11268305]

>>11266360
>You cannot be fascinated by machines, physics and math if your parents never exposed you to anything like that.
you're a fool for posting this anon. people select their own environments, parents genes generate the environment they rear their children within. there is no missing convergence of high potential disadvantaged individuals and the corresponding higher education required to kindle their flame, they're just on the whole stupid kids that become stupid adults. The few geniuses born into poverty are literal freaks and you would do nothing much by providing extra resources in an untargeted manner to the general population.
>dyslexics tend to be good engineers
The average engineer is an idiot, and most engineering majors are idiots. Engineers have nigger tier verbal scores, and tend to avoid hard maths, there's a reason however that physics majors have top tier verbal scores as do mathfags. Think about that contrast before you assume parity.
>aspies tend to read early
high iq aspies tend to teach themselves whatever they're obsessed with early, I've met autists who aren't particularly eloquent but were tearing apart computers before they hit middle school and everyone has met children just like that, they go on to become the actually talented engineers and programmers at elite universities.
>it isn't dyslexia if you are too dumb to read
people with dyslexia are generally stupid, I've never met a person with dyslexia who was intelligent. I've met stupid people who claim to have dyscalcula or whatever as well and they did not demonstrate compensatory intelligence outside of quantitative reasoning, coincidentally those people also tended to be poor readers.
>>11268292
>40% of self made millionaires have some form of dyslexia
I don't believe this and neither should you, and many rich people are actually not much brighter than your average store manager or highschool teacher. Remember 3 generations and all that, often less than one.

[Anonymous No.11268820]

>>11260284
Both are social cognition disabilities, but Asperger is a social dyspraxia, while other autism forms are social dysgnosias. You are welcome.

[Anonymous No.11268863]

>>11261341
>arbitrary claims without nothing to support them
>"logic"
Let me guess, you are trying to act out the "smart and outspoken" character but failing miserably at it?

[Anonymous No.11268872]

>>11268305
>Engineers have nigger tier verbal scores
Well, duh. They are dyslexic.
>people with dyslexia are generally stupid, I've never met a person with dyslexia who was intelligent
They think differently, and may seem stupid because they can see that the answer everybody else thinks is obvious isn't that obvious after all.
>>40% of self made millionaires have some form of dyslexia
>I don't believe this and neither should you,
Dyslexics have the unique ability to reject things everyone sees as obvious. Which may, in the right circumstances, make you a millionaire.

[Anonymous No.11269848]

>>11268305
>I don't believe this
Dyslexic brains are wired to spend much more energy on decoding voices - while normal brains switch to the lazy mode once they figured the voice (eccent, etc.) out, they tune down the processing to a much lower level. Dyslexic brains do this much less and keep a far higher safety margin in processing the voice (i.e. spend considerably more energy on decoding it even when the listening conditions are good, actually the more severely dyslexic the person is, the higher safety margin their brains keep).
The advantages could be well worth the inability to learn an alphabet if it makes you less likely to miss or mishear things.

[Anonymous No.11269855]

>>11268305
>I don't believe this
Dyslexic brains are wired to spend much more energy on decoding voices - normal brains switch to the lazy mode once they figured the voice (accent, etc.) out, and tune down the processing to a much lower level. Dyslexic brains do this much less and keep a far higher safety margin in processing the voice (i.e. spend considerably more energy on decoding it even when the listening conditions are good, actually the more severely dyslexic the person is, the higher safety margin their brain keeps).
The advantages could be well worth the inability to learn an alphabet if it makes you less likely to miss or mishear things.

[Anonymous No.11269858]

Didn't read this entire thread, but what's with the circlejerking around visuospatial ability?

It's an extremely primitive trait and shows that you are descended from unenlightened races.

The ashkenazi Jews for example, have comparatively low visuospatial abilities, but high mathematical and high verbal capabilities. They are superior in terms of understanding abstraction, general concepts.

[Anonymous No.11269876]

>>11269858
Visuospatial ability is strongly tied with STEM skills.

[Anonymous No.11269878]

>>11269876
In low tier races, yes.

[Anonymous No.11269886]

>>11269858
>>11269878
The jews I know are completely incapable of sensible abstract thought. They end up thinking up complete nonsense any time they try going through something that isn't 100% concrete.

[Anonymous No.11269888]

>>11269886
They are still extremely overrepresented in academia and positions of power. There is a reason for this, and it is not just some schizo new world order nonsense.

[Anonymous No.11269913]

>>11269888
But it really is borderline insanity.
I told him the method cannot work.
I looked it up, somebody tried, it tested it, it doesn't actually work.
I showed him it the results are worthless.
Insists on doing it and thinks I'm jealous I couldn't come up with it myself or something like that.

[Anonymous No.11269918]

>>11269888
But it really is borderline insanity.
I told him it cannot work.
I looked it up, somebody tried and tested it, it doesn't actually work.
I showed him it the results are worthless.
Insists on doing it and thinks I'm jealous I couldn't come up with it myself or something like that.

[Anonymous No.11269922]

>>11269918
That dude is most likely not the representative of the Jewish people.

[Anonymous No.11269954]

>>11260284
Aspergers is a common archetype of autism.
It's an extremely similar trait to autism in terms of what it affects, and someone cannot be both aspergic and autistic, so it's reasonable to say that aspergers is one of the many forms of autism.

The reason it's important to distinguish aspergers from other forms of autism is because it's the only one where someone's general intelligence usually becomes higher as a result, not lower; autism can massively enhance some cognitive traits at the expense of many other traits, aspergers significantly enhances a much broader range of traits at the expense of ability to understand people.

[Anonymous No.11269967]

>>11269888
nepotism

[Anonymous No.11269993]

>>11269918
>goy tries to express that the chosen people cannot think abstractly
>uses a single individual at his low tier institution to be a representative of an entire population as evidence

[Anonymous No.11270003]

>>11269888
Jesus Christ!
Enough already of the jew supremacy - it's a total lie - they have a cultural advantage - being a kike is a "culture" and nothing more.

Genes play a small part of intelligence. Much of high IQ results from having an unresponsive mother - depressed, cold or dismissive during the first years of a babies life. IQ profiles are created in the first 2 years - babies who's needs are NOT getting met have to work much harder, ie. trying different tactics to extract from their environment, the developmental factors they need to survive. They're literally born into this world lifting cognitive weights. If you don't know it's a continuous dialog between the baby and the mother of, stimulus and response.

Jew inhabit higher echelons as you mention not because they are smarter but because they try harder. They try harder because the Jew culture is matriarchal - hence the Nebbish old jew archetype (woody Allen) who remains deferential to his dead mother. Every jew is confronted with a disapproving mother, to whom the jew can never be good enough and if she is not disapproving she's psychotic due to incapacitation form the JEW gene defect that results in bordeline psychosis the presents itself in cruelty to the offspring. Further Jew mothers are especially toxic to their sons whom they have peculiar sexual intrusions where you'll find them leading the fag parades at fag festivals - Every jew boy knows the term, "What's the matter Abire mutha wack your pee pee." When the Jew mother changes her sons diaper nd he gets a boner she slaps it hard having been deeply offended. Hence the Epsteins, Pornography, et' al.

In group favoritism accounts for much of the other weighting you see, even the studies that claim the Ashkenazi have higher IQ is flawed. Look it up.

No jew who knows me would ever for one instant believe they are smarter than me.

[Anonymous No.11270047]

>>11261636

[Anonymous No.11270080]

>>11270003
source? sounds interesting.

[Anonymous No.11270084]

>>11270003
Quakers and unitarians score higher than AJs on standardised tests which are proxies for IQ tests and they don't have that culture

[Anonymous No.11270114]

>>11270080
Look it up.

Aspie here spent 15 years getting to the bottom of the human condition - much of what I found has been obscured since - so if it rings true - it probably is even if the details are hard to confirm.

Everything your told is run through the Abrahamic filtering system - that demands a specific narrative.
Most of what your told is wrong - how do you think the world got like this? Where suicide is one of the most likely ways for children to die?

[Anonymous No.11270560]

>>11270003
You are fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.11271527]

>>11269855

If this is true wouldn’t this make it easier for dyslexic people to learn new languages?

[Anonymous No.11271583]

>>11260284
a completly arbitrary one so who cares

[Anonymous No.11271594]

>>11270114
>how do you think the world got like this? Where suicide is one of the most likely ways for children to die?
evolution

[Anonymous No.11271609]

>>11271527
It's learning from books that is a problem. When I took a course in Arabic, the teacher suspected I can already speak it (I could apparently pronounce some extremely difficult letter without even being aware of it). I couldn't figure out how construct the words from letters or vice versa. But when I could hear the word how it sounds, it wasn't a problem.

(I am not formally diagnosed, so take my experience with a grain of salt, but I'm 90% sure I am dyslexic)

[Anonymous No.11271614]

>>11271527
It's learning from books that is a problem. When I took a course in Arabic, the teacher suspected I could already speak it (I could apparently pronounce some extremely difficult letter without even being aware of it). I couldn't figure out how construct the words from letters or vice versa. But when I could hear the word how it sounds, it wasn't a problem.

(I am not formally diagnosed, so take my experience with a grain of salt, but I'm 90% sure I am dyslexic)

[Anonymous No.11271616]

>>11271527
It's learning from books that is a problem. When I took a course in Arabic, the teacher suspected I could already speak it (I could apparently pronounce some extremely difficult letter without even being aware of it). I couldn't figure out how construct the words from letters or vice versa. But when I could hear the word how it sounds, it wasn't a problem.

My English accent is also better than usual, people sometimes think I just speak some unusual native accent.

(I am not formally diagnosed, so take my experience with a grain of salt, but I'm 90% sure I am dyslexic)

[Anonymous No.11272310]

>>11265516
>>11265516
ok what's with the wave of comfy gifs infiltrating /sci lately

i'm ok with it but wtf

[Anonymous No.11272359]

>>11261649
many people are terrible speakers and listeners. so while you are focused on clarity and understanding, other people often just pretendbelieve they understood and make noises back to keep the conversation "flowing"

[Anonymous No.11272367]

>>11269954
and then if you are able to successfully understand people you become BATMANBINSUPARMAN

[Anonymous No.11272371]

>>11269954
and then if you are able to learn and successfully understand people you become BATMANBINSUPARMAN

[Anonymous No.11272380]

>>11272310
The smartest people need it most. They bear the weight of the world. It's too much. Enjoy some comfy.

[Anonymous No.11272547]

>>11260284
assburgers is a little part of autism.

[Anonymous No.11272870]

>>11267530
Then you're just an asshole

[Anonymous No.11272879]

>>11272870
should aspergers be changed to asshole? cuz i think i liek the label asshole better than aspergers.

[Anonymous No.11273028]

>>11270003
Nigger babies get treated the same way though and many third world countries are quasi-matriarchal the way you described