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Is there a scientific, valid explanation on why people become gay? Is it the change of sexual drive? Is it entirely psychological? Does it depend on the person's environment, what?

>> No.11247379

>>11247334
the only gay guy i know was straight all through high school until the girl he had a crush on rejected him (he was the retard, bringing roses to class and going all public, she had already let him known she wasn't interested and simply turned him down without humiliating him). then he slowly became a raging faggot.
i bet this is fairly common, fags are just boys who didn't get girls and didn't wanna be turned down so they decided to go for the horny sex that's up to fucking everything and having one night stands even with losers like you

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>>11247334
>Is there a scientific, valid explanation on why people become gay?
yes
>Is it the change of sexual drive? Is it entirely psychological? Does it depend on the person's environment, what?
it's hot dudes

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>>11247334
Temptation by the devil. But not even demons want to watch it

>> No.11247616

>>11247334
People fall in love with people, not with
reproductive organs.

>> No.11247619

>>11247334
Not science, kill yourself, /pol/tard.

>> No.11247633

>>11247379
holy based moonman told the truth

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pussy envy

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>>11247334
You might as well ask: Why do people become murderers? The fact is, there are different kinds of murderers, some come by it naturally, some for jealosy or personal interest, some for cultural reasons.

So it's probable that people can become gay for different reasons, and to understand the situation it's necessary to identify the different types. By far the most common type, however seems to be caused by childhood molestation by older homosexuals: studies have shown, anywhere from 45% to 70% of homosexual men admit to having been molested as children.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11501300/
Many more will admit both to being molested, and to molesting children themselves, if they perceive the setting as "low risk environment" such as when speaking to fellow homosexuals at a gay bar.

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something something genetics something something events in my childhood
>>11247447
>Catholicism
part of the problem
>>11247423
this anon gets it

>> No.11247928

or penis tasty owo

>> No.11247942

>>11247379
>i bet
Impressive, did you quote that from your PhD?

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>>11247447

>> No.11247958

>>11247334
yes twin studies and the gwas prove there is a genetic link
>b-b-but it isn't 100%
nothing is 100%

environment and culture can also play role. but in my case i was born in a homophobic hellhole and practically had to "invent" my own sexuality, so not a chance

>>11247379
he was probably a repressing bisexual
you can't flip flop like that

>> No.11247961

>>11247913
no such thing
this "study" has been refuted back and forth

>> No.11247968

>>11247447
>not even demons want to watch it
Is this the cope Christians adopted when they realized most homos are monster fuckers and furries?

>> No.11248024

>>11247961
[this is what straight liberals who've never been into a gay bar nor had an honest, candid conversation with a homosexual actually believe]

>> No.11248041

>>11247334
I think that there are part of biological fucke up people that "born" as gay, but the vast majority are just lust driven degenerates.
>>11247447
>catholicism

>> No.11248043

>>11248024
oh yeah that one video the anti-gay propagandist released in an attempt to stop gay marriage in the US

that little stunt failed too

>> No.11248091

>>11248043
>true things are false if they are true for the wrong reasons
>this includes data, testimony, and expert opinion, and extends even to filmed non-coerced candid confession

>> No.11248359

>>11248091
>pls believe in my narrative
how about no

>> No.11248416

ive always thought sexuality was like any other fetish

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>>11248416
no fetish would be something like "i need you to pee in my mouth right or we aren't having sex". it is being attracted to anything but actual people, and it is a desire that you just need to fulfill

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>>11248416
no fetish would be something like "i need you to pee in my mouth right now or we aren't having sex". it is being attracted to anything but actual people, and it is a desire that you just need to fulfill

>> No.11248458

>>11247334
Pre-natal hormonal imbalance.

>> No.11248551

>>11248455
i meant in terms of development. i think exposure to certain behaviors during puberty (such as homosexuality, heterosexuality, fetishes, etc) can lead to developing said attraction. thats what ive theorized from my personal experiences. i havent done much research on the subject though so what im saying is on par with /x/.

>> No.11249537

>>11247334
I myself went from hetero to bi to being hetero (female)

I think what influenced it the most was the access to internet

>> No.11249543

Toxoplasma.

>> No.11250130

>>11249537
L O N D O N
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>> No.11250144

>>11248458
that only explains submissive men who take the bottom role. what about tops who exclusively fuck men? is it psychological or is there other explanations? also i'd like to add that bottoms outnumber tops despite bottom being a painful position that rarely results in ejaculation.

>> No.11250147

>>11247334
Genetics. Liking hot dudes is a good trait in chicks and sometimes that gets passed on to guys as well.

>> No.11250154

>>11249537
All women are bi.
Also, post your nerd girl tits
>>11248458
This.
There was a study I read not too long ago, and I wish I could remember more details about it.
But the study involved dissecting the brains of hetero, homos, and trans people.
They found that one of the areas of the brain that governed sexuality in normal hetero males was larger than a hetero females.
In homo men and women it was an intermediate size, and a lot of the times had a defect.
In trans it was also of an intermediate size but the defects were much much larger.

One of the hypothesis for the cause of this was prenatal hormonal imbalances

>> No.11250210

>>11247334
The following statements are ALL TRUE:

1. Sex with a man feels good, whether you are a man or a woman. This has been known since ancient times.

2. Sex with a man doesn't make you gay, regardless of being bottom or top. It just means this sort of pleasure has been available to you. Many males would, given the freedom, try sexual acts with another male.

3. Some men arent naturally attracted to females, and there's logically/biologically nothing amazing about it. Man is perfectly capable of inseminating a female even without attraction, and many males dont actually feel physical pleasures in sex. They find it rational and a status element.

>> No.11250216

>>11250210
>t.broke brained fagget

>> No.11250239

>>11250216
Simple, scientific question for you:

Have you had sex with a man?

IF you havent, how can you be so sure it doesnt feel good?

Also, have you tried penetrating your asshole with a dildo? If you have and it felt good, why would you think penis doesnt feel good?

>> No.11250247

>>11250210
>1. Sex with a man feels good, whether you are a man or a woman. This has been known since ancient times.
yes, any rubbing of the penis feels good

>2. Sex with a man doesn't make you gay, regardless of being bottom or top. It just means this sort of pleasure has been available to you. Many males would, given the freedom, try sexual acts with another male.
No, perhaps being a top isn't 100% gay but bottoming is 100% gay since you are taking the feminine submissive role

>3. Some men arent naturally attracted to females, and there's logically/biologically nothing amazing about it. Man is perfectly capable of inseminating a female even without attraction, and many males don't actually feel physical pleasures in sex. They find it rational and a status element.
male sperm is of less quality when a man has sex with something he doesn't find attractive. the rest of your statement is your personal experience and preferences

>> No.11250260

>>11250247
>yes, any rubbing of the penis feels good
There you go. An explanation why some people are gay. Because it feels good. Maybe a female wasn't available.

>No, perhaps being a top isn't 100% gay but bottoming is 100% gay since you are taking the feminine submissive role
Yes, taking the bottom is definitely feminine (it IS feminine-like to be penetrated), and definitely submissive in sexual terms (something is done TO your body). Equating submission and domination to feminine and masculine is a more complicated statement, however. We all submit to our bosses, to our parents (when we were young), to rules of our society. And we all dominate our property, children, friends, and partner to some extent.

>male sperm is of less quality when a man has sex with something he doesn't find attractive. the rest of your statement is your personal experience and preferences
I find it very unlikely that the first statement is true. Sperm is generated continuously throughout the day. Ejaculation may be weaker if the man isn't attracted.

>> No.11250264

>>11247334
>Is there a scientific, valid explanation on why people become gay?
yes

>Is it the change of sexual drive?
intensity of sexual drive- no

>Is it entirely psychological?
i think nothing is entirely psychological

>Does it depend on the person's environment, what?
partially

>> No.11250270

>>11250264
0.5/6 points answer

>> No.11250424

>>11250239
I once put my finger up my bum hole, I didn't like it
Not everyone is a disgusting degenerate birth defect like you, fag

>> No.11250447

>>11247334
There was that AI that could identify sexuality based on the face alone. So it’s likely something related to early facial development, whether a mutation in some genes or a chemical altering normal function. Should be testable and preventable if so.

>> No.11250459

androgenic exposure in the womb that develops a more feminine brain

>> No.11250474

>>11250154
If I inject testosterene into a gay man, will that make him straight? Since you have mentioned that there's hormonal imbalance

>> No.11250537

>>11248359
If a women says she was raped, I believe her.

If a gay says he was molested, I believe him.

Why don't you?

>> No.11250540

>>11247334
>become
Failed from the start /pol/fag, that's not how it works

>> No.11250547

>>11248024
Spend a lot of time in gay bars?

>> No.11250550

>>11248551
>knowing about gays makes kids gay
Who had to teach you to be straight anon?

>> No.11250556

>>11250144
>painful position that rarely results in ejaculation
Not at all

>> No.11250563

>>11250540
Good that means they can be identified before birth and aborted like Down syndrome.

>> No.11250575

>>11250563
It's more similar to fetal alcohol syndrome in that environmental factors play into it (xenoestrogens, psychiatric medication, etc)

>> No.11250580

>>11250575
No evidence for that either. Everything has been inconclusive. We just don't know

>> No.11250693

Mouse utopia experiments

>> No.11250737

>>11250580
>inconclusive
Because there's more than one cause. Most of them were just molested as children but some of them were actually subjected to chemicals in utero. Who knows, maybe some of them were even "born gay" for purely dysgenic reasons similar to diabetes and Crohn's disease.

>> No.11250743

>>11247334
Because dick is rad, next question.

>> No.11250791

>>11247334
There have been studies on epigenetics (the study of how the environment in the mom's belly affects the child before it is born) that suggest that whether one becomes gay or not depends on the pregnancy and not on genetics or on the environment after you are born. Therefore, it implies that saying that people "becoming" gay is bullshit; they just didn't know they were gay before. However, I don't know how it explains bisexuality.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Khn_z9FPmU

>> No.11250805

>>11247334
sexuality is emergent, we just tend to focus it on other people, but in general get all sorts of weird fetishes

as some people are the same sex as a given person is, some gay people will emerge

>> No.11250843

>>11247334
epigenetic

>> No.11250910

>>11250737
>muh molestation
All you know about this is /pol/ bullshit

>> No.11250924

>>11247334
Its genetic, any other explanation fails to account for the rate of incidence in large populations. Gays are identifiable early in life and distrusting the universal report of individuals claiming to have homosexual proclivities at a young age is stupid. Environmental factors contribute but they cannot be invoked continuously where healthy diet, proper rearing environment and hetersexual siblings are present and yet people who make these arguments will continue to do so until the proper genomic analyses are carried out and they’re forced to silence themselves.

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Might as well use a bait thread to drop some science.

>> No.11251274

I can only give you my own anecdotal stuff.
When I was 9-10 my sexuality started to bud, and I looked up porn on the internet eventually but was originally limited to shit like magazines I found and the like and thusly girls.
At the time it was girls, but I realised that tits and vag did nothing for me, I jacked it exclusively to anal. I had completely isolated and boxed an ass as my sexual desire.
When I was about 13 I started fantasizing about a male classmate, about things like hif flat chest, cute face and sharp jaw.
After a few years I just said fuck it and whats the point of this charade anymore, how can one be bisexual and not like vaginas, tits, feminine features and such.
I've never been attracted to primary female sexual organs or features and thusly I figure that in atleast my case it's genetic; since I tried so hard not to be gay in my teens, drowning myself in straight porn.
Ask away if you want strange repression stories, I suffered a complete cognitive dissonance for a while, like riding dildos and completely dismissing it after I came eventhough I knew i'd do it again tomorrow.

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>>11250537
>If a women says she was raped, I believe her.
>If a gay says he was molested, I believe him.
it is not very christian of me, but if they got raped they can go fuck themselves. you want me to acknowledge their shitty lives, but not only i can't relate to any of that crap how i ultimately don't care about the "victims" nor their testimony. i can't make a formal complaint about whatever happened to them, it is not my problem.

there used to be some wannabe "vigilantes" where i live (it's the only time i would deal with this) who would come with these stupid accusations, fabrications and misrepresentations about my life like how i supposedly had innate impulses to touch children, and how i've been touched as a kid by other kids (and uncle tom ofc), and everything else relating to children. i didn't even care to address it, the crazier the better. this type of anti-gay fanfiction got politicized for a while, and only served to make the losing side (in the marriage thingy) look unhinged, and now no one cares. that video for one is many years old by now.
the only thing that had the least tiny bit of relevancy was that 2 decade old study (already linked here) as it is peer reviewed, but the methodology used is monumentally flawed, and the paper was scrutinized to hell cause the dude just lied and cherry picked all the way

your "anti-gay propaganda/#metoo" comparison also reinforces that it is politicized bullshit. if there was an actual victim you could file a police report like a normal person. but no, you resort to lying, manipulation, propaganda, etc... because it is your values that are being attacked, and you're only concerned with the social repercussions of the shit you say. you want to make a point. so good luck trying to frame a gay person as a paedophile or convincing a gay person to fuck piece of shit kids and animals.

>Why don't you?
cause anti-gay propaganda doesn't matter

>>11250693
>being confined to a small space
>utupia
try again

>> No.11251289

>>11247334
Does it matter? If someone prefers their own gender, so be it. We no longer live in a world where maximum fertility needed to be everyone's goal.

>> No.11251293

>>11247334
Molestation. Physical or cultural.

>> No.11251296

>>11251289
Well to them, it's about the survival of the white race. They assert white genocide and therfore homosexuality is a loss in the fight to keep white birth rates up

>> No.11251297

>>11251293
What do you mean by physical

>> No.11251311

>>11250239
>Also, have you tried penetrating your asshole with a dildo? If you have and it felt good, why would you think penis doesnt feel good?
kek how can you have a life experience like that and extrapolate it to others?
the vast majority of people never even dreamed of sticking anything in that place. not only it is gross, how you're not supposed to put stuff in there. compare it to something even more fringe like "penis sounding". some people may be able to derive pleasure from that crap (it is crap), but most will experience extreme pain or discomfort.
btw many gay bottoms can only derive psychological pleasure from anal, and find it just as painful as anyone else

>>11250247
>yes, any rubbing of the penis feels good
t. degenerate gloryhole user

>No, perhaps being a top isn't 100% gay
bro sticking your dick in a hairy shitter is 100% gay. only a few bottoms will claim otherwise but that is because they are fetishists, and seducing "straight" men is part of their fantasy. also, i'm sure you would go extra lenghts to omit THAT part of your sex life to your girlfriend and basically anyone in your life, so stfu

>> No.11251317

>>11247334
I don’t know. All I know is any time a hot biker passes by, I cannot help but picture his hot, sweaty gonads flying in my face, as I munch and lick and breathe in the hot sweaty musk. This is all I know.

>> No.11251318

>>11251296
On the other hand they forget the incredibly high rates of AIDS in blacks and black adjacent folx who are also more likely to be queer when compared to whites. Higher mortality rates should offset whatever families white gays are not having. It's just a collateral in CIA's war against Africa.

>> No.11251321

Got a lot of lesbian friends
For some of them I just think they are male born in a woman body (female hardware, male software to run it)

But there is 2 of them that went homo because they lack confidence, had bad sexual experiences (never had an orgasm, had inexperienced bf or men with a micropenis, didn’t get any attention in school because they were gamers etc.)

I think when it’s not a "defect" gay people are what they are because they didn’t get fucked properly by the opposite sex, so they go for someone who they think know their body best
(Not gay but I assume a man can give the best blowjob since he knows exactly how he want his penis taken care of?)

>> No.11251323

>>11251321
>men with a micropenis
top kek

>> No.11251327

>>11251321
This is such bullshit. Are you unable to wrap your head around something as simple as some people liking their own gender?

>> No.11251345

>>11251297
Sexual intercourse with an older homosexual.

>> No.11251346

>>11251323
She told me the dude insisted to fuck with the lights off
She took his "penis" in her hand and understood why
She didn’t feel or say anything so she waited because it was too awkward
Man I feel bad for this guy

>>11251327
This is bullshit to you, this is my explanation

Reproduction require 2 genders so since we are preprogrammed to reproduce I just think there is something defective in them
Like me having glasses or autistic people
In the wild, we would simply not survive/reproduce and disappear from the gene pool, like nature intended

If you are offended, remember that I don’t give a fuck who anyone fucks, this is not important, nothing is so have fun while you’re here

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>>11251346
>the gay is a gene mishap
>defect mishaps rely on genes

>> No.11251370

>>11251346
You are basing this view in simplistic opinions from anecdotes. There is also nothing preventing homosexuals from reproducing. Using the nature argument is retarded.

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>>11251370
Yes I am, as I said this is my logical explanation
Maybe it’s dumb I know but this is what I believe

>there is nothing preventing homosexuals from reproducing
Wut?

2 women or 2 men can’t naturally produce a child
If so prove me wrong?

And I said, they wouldn’t reproduce in the Wild, like nature intended
Again, I have very poor vision so I wear glasses, do I have a defect? Would I die more easily if we were just 2000 years earlier and that I couldn’t see shit that’s right in front of me?
Yes and yes
Spin it as you want but nature produced 2 genders for basically every complex life form on this planet
Not 3 not 4. 2 is the optimal number and we are intended to copulate with the opposite gender in order to produce offsprings
If you don’t, your lineage get erased. Simple

>>11251365
I never said anything about genes, just defective

>> No.11251484

>>11251469
>Like me having glasses...
>...we would simply not survive/reproduce and disappear from the gene pool, like nature intended
you did

>> No.11251543

>>11251484
Are you retarded or trolling?
What part of "2000 earlier" or "in the wild" don’t you understand
Of course homosexuals can procreate today, of course we can buy/create glasses

We made natural selection far less selective, that’s why I’m alive today, that’s also why children like adalia rose are still on this planet
Nature doesn’t have gay animals that fight for their rights mantis shrimps that buy glasses

Only cases of gay sex among animals I saw so far was because of some social interaction
No animals with an exclusive gay lifestyle has been observed (yet)

>> No.11251544

>>11251469
Nature doesn't intend anything. Homosexuality is observed in nature in many animals. Now humans can now choose to remain exclusively homosexuals and there is nothing preventing a gay person from reproducing in they chose to. They've been doing it for a long time and now you don't even need to have sex with the opposite sex.

>> No.11251552

>>11251543
In nature also dolphins or bonobos doing homosexual sex don't get killed by others

>> No.11251559

>>11251469
>And I said, they wouldn’t reproduce in the Wild, like nature intended

Nature intends nothing. It is mindless.

>> No.11251567

>>11251543
>Only cases of gay sex among animals I saw so far was because of some social interaction

Homosexual behavior is common in non-human animals. Noticeable examples are giraffes. The majority of giraffe sex is gay sex between males. Another example are bonobos, a very close relative of humans, who have constant lesbian and gay sex.

> No animals with an exclusive gay lifestyle has been observed

Also wrong. While bonobos are species-wide pansexuals, 10% of rams are gay and never have sex with ewes, only other rams.

>> No.11251582

>>11247616
you are being such a cinge normie right now

>> No.11251650

>>11251543
>Of course homosexuals can procreate today
kek and they couldn't before?
>that's also why children like adalia rose are still on this planet
adalia rose didn't inherent her condition from her parents retard.
>gay sex among animals I saw so far was because of some social interaction
holy shit how else could it be
>No animals with an exclusive gay lifestyle has been observed (yet)
wrong

>> No.11251795

>>11250474
No, changes to the brain in utero have a much, much larger effect. That's why for example autism isn't cure-able.

>> No.11251807

>>11251795
Autism technically occurs after birth. It’s caused by a failure of the brain to undergo the usual neural pruning process, leaving a bunch of defective and unnecessary synapses.

>> No.11252264

>>11251544
>>11251552
It’s like I’m talking to a brick or maybe my English is not good enough? I acknowledge that gay sex exists among animals
Gay SEX not gay lifestyle meaning having sex exclusively with their own gender
If it exists, please provide a simple source or proof?

>>11251559
>Natural selection is not a thing
Nature tends to suppress its errors naturally
Be born with a bad hearth and you will die sooner, that’s mindless but it’s happening anyways

>>11251567
>The majority of giraffe sex is gay sex
>10% of rams are gay
Lol provide at least one source for your claims sir

>>11251650
I never said gay people inherited condition from their parents, you are making things outta your ass
I just said natural selection would’ve killed her long ago if we didn’t modify our environment so much
You’re the kind of person that would refuse abortion even if your child is expected to be like her

>how shit what else it could be
Rape, or trying to reproduce but failing?
>animal with an exclusive gay lifestyle
Which one and source please

>> No.11252269 [DELETED] 

>>11247334
Gay frogs

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>>11251567
>I watched some animals having sex, so having sex with animals is natural and good
Where do you retards even get these evopsych talking-points? They don't even make any fucking sense.

>> No.11252341

>>11247334
You need to stop asking problematic questions and accept them. Love is love and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

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>>11252341

>> No.11252421

>>11250910
actually no. I personally talked to several homosexuals. also milo was perverted by a priest

>> No.11252429

>>11251582
Virgin. Try leaving your mom's basement.

>> No.11252638

>>11252264
>I never said gay people inherited condition from their parents, you are making things outta your ass
then leave the gene mishaps alone bruh
>I just said natural selection would’ve killed her long ago if we didn’t modify our environment so much
oh silly you, bukakke can prolong life indefinitely. gay people are super human
>You’re the kind of person that would refuse abortion even if your child is expected to be like her
why not? everyone thinks she looks cute
>Rape, or trying to reproduce but failing?
AKA social interactions? kek
>animal with an exclusive gay lifestyle Which one and source please
there are a bunch of them look it up
books.google.com/books?id=EftT_1bsPOAC&pg=PA179
https://www.genetics.org/content/121/4/773.abstract
but i'm merely pointing that they exist. as far as the nature argument goes i think it is gross anthropomorphization. even saying that they are bisexual sounds stupid, they most likely don't experience the same degrees of freedom that humans do. what they may have is a behavior that can be loosely compared to humans but it comes in varying degrees and that's all.
it is also dumb to think that gay fags rely on reproduction to pass their gay genes forward because that's not what research has showed insofar. the genes they found in that recent GWAS study were also present in straight people, but served different functions (that's where the "passing forward" takes place) and there were a bunch of cases that couldn't be attributed to genes at all

>> No.11252817

>>11252421
My anecdotal evidence if just as valuable as yours. I wasn't molested nor the people I have dated and I even had my first kiss with a girl trying to force myself to not be gay.

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>>11251293
the fuck is cultural molestation?

>> No.11252881

>>11248043
shut up faggot

>> No.11252890

>>11252264
>Natural selection is not a thing

Natural selection is a mindless process with no intent or will. You might as well say the wind intends things.

> Lol provide at least one source for your claims sir

Isn’t it funny how you demand citations when people make claims contrary to your own while never providing citations yourself? It’s almost like you’re a child with no real interest in a serious discussion.

>rams
https://academic.oup.com/endo/article/145/2/478/2499800

>Giraffes
“Necking Behavior in the Giraffe’-Malcom J. Cole. Journal of Zoology

>> No.11252896

>>11252817
>I even had my first kiss with a girl
lmao me too. back when i wasn't assertive about this (didn't want to get bullied lol) i had to endure multiple women retards. they would get interested in me, but i wouldn't reciprocate their shit, and would rather leave it in the air causing a ton of cancer and butthurt. they couldn't understand for example why i was down for the kiss-rape in a certain day (curiosity), but not in the next

>>11252881
that matter is settled.

>> No.11252901

>>11252279
> >I watched some animals having sex, so having sex with animals is natural and good

I never said “It’s natural so it’s good”.

> Where do you retards even get these evopsych talking-points?

Where do you retards get the gall to obviously lie about what other people are claiming?
It makes no fucking sense.
Fuck off lol

>> No.11253026

>>11251795
So if I somehow know(by some futuristic technology) that a fetus will be gay in the future(assuming it's a male), I can inject the uterus with testosterene and it will prevent him from becoming gay?

>> No.11253041

>>11253026
Why would you do that?

>> No.11253052

>>11247379
He probably knew he was gay and was in denial. Made the proposal a spectical for everyone to see so everyone knew how totally straight he was. Bringing roses to class is pretty fucking gay, definitely something a gay mind would come up with to look straight. After he failed he's just like fuck it, I give up, I'm a raging faggot I don't care anymore

>> No.11253082

>>11253041
He wants more straight men around to cuck him.

>> No.11253115

>>11252846
Exposure to drag queens reading your some swedish kindergarden literature.

>> No.11253126

>>11247379
This is not often mentioned... but in my own experience: yes, such cases of "failed straight people" exist. The thought of such people existing is very awkward and almost tragic to even entertain... but yeah...

>> No.11253217

>>11251795
But will it not affect his behaviour? Like eradicating the gay lisp and effeminacy that breeds gaudy drag queens. All that irritating, over-the-top femininity is ingrained in their dna?

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>>11247334
Faggots usually have some sort of trauma they are in denial about., their mom beat the shit out them as kids or some other grown up touched them in a funny place. Either way all fags should get help or the rope,

>> No.11253259

>>11247334
i just like penis lol

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>>11253217
Drag Queens are great though

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>>11253337
true. I wish one day you don't have to be a homo to wear a dress.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8-UmsgDU6Q
t. puts a scissored pillowcase on

>> No.11253404

>>11253258
>Source: Nothing

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>>11253404
Suicide rates kinda speak for themselves faggot.

>> No.11253526

>>11253483
Source: stormfront and other bigoted Nazi journos. You really need to stop swallowing all the fake news /pol/ spews.

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>>11253526
U really need to stop swallowing semen and start swallowing reality.

>> No.11253578

>>11253483
>Changing subject from homosexuals to transgender people and hoping no one notices

Tell me why you are dishonest.

>> No.11253589

>>11253564
Can you please explain to me why you are dishonest, and shift subjects? You claimed that “ Faggots usually have some sort of trauma they are in denial about., their mom beat the shit out them as kids or some other grown up touched them in a funny place. Either way all fags should get help or the rope,”
But your evidence of this is nonexistent, because you failed to present data on the causes of the suicide rates. Give some.

>> No.11253599

>>11253578
>Transgender
a man pretending to be a girl wants to get dicked by a man
>Homosexual
a man who wants to be dicked by a man.

Tell me what the difference is again?

>> No.11253602

>>11253599
You wrote two clearly different definitions just now.

>> No.11253606

>>11253589
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3535560/

>> No.11253630

>>11253599
>gives different definitions (one of which is wrong in multiple ways)
>how are these different

You’ll grow out of the edgy phase eventually.

>> No.11253638

>>11253602
>>11253630
Maybe u brainlets need to learn how to read between the lines both definitions are a man who wants a man, now go and 40% urselves.

>> No.11253643

>>11253638
I actually think that the difference between the two definitions is about 40%, just purely by coincidence.

>> No.11253781

>>11247447
Not a religious cuck, but this quote is fake and gay.

>> No.11253824

>>11253052
no he wasn't faking it. bringing roses to class was corny as fuck but not gay

>> No.11254153

Look at the Catholic Church scandal. Sexual abuse creates homosexuals

>> No.11254157

>>11248416

Butt sex is a fetish

>> No.11254176

>>11250210
based roman

>> No.11254639

>>11253337
Label me a homophobe all you want, but I refuse to tolerate flamboyance. It’s fucking obnoxious. I don’t understand why it’s so difficult for gay men to be civilised, normal people. They always have to stand out and exaggerate every movement.. are these people really that desperate for attention? It’s the boisterous attitude that bugs me, not the sexuality itself.

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>>11247334
It’s basically a brain defect. Male homosexual brains are structured like female heterosexual ones, which explains their identical self-expression. In a way, homosexuality really doesn’t even exist. There appears to be two set roles for a pair of people that must differ to ignite a breeding scenario, even if impossible between two members of the same sex. Clearly our designated purpose is to mate, mother nature reminds us of that quite frequently. But humans are complex and flawed, and unfortunately the genetic mistakes the blind universe has gambled on must suffer because humanity has feelings, and it’s all just being played with by the abyss.

>> No.11254697

>>11254639
What is this level of normalfagginess even called?

>> No.11254739

>>11253824
How do you know?

>> No.11254752

>>11254739
we talked

>> No.11254755

>>11247334
Is strong heteroromantic attraction (emotional ache in heart when thinking about or looking at them, nonsexual dreams, remembering their face in perfectly clarity and wanting to cry months after, their eyes, their smile, the way they talked to you and made you feel, how they looked really "cool" or aesthetic and interesting before you first interacted with them etc) is this worth anything if you barely have any sexual feelings for them whatsoever?

Why does this happen if it doesn't feel like you're forcing it and its automatic and comes on extremely strong and leaves you even more depressed, selfhating and lonely?

>> No.11254821

>>11247334
Mental illness

>> No.11254844

>>11250270
?

>> No.11254849

>>11253599
There are two types of disorder both called transgender: the homosexual transsexual (HSTS) and the autogynephile (AGP). It's a bit like how "hepatitis" is actually a set of different liver diseases with different causes: hepatitis A, hepatitis B, liver cirrhosis and so on.

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>>11254755
>it was real in my mind
I'll give you this much: the hormones musy be working, because you talk like a bimbo.

>> No.11254853

>>11254697
What is your level of quirky, unique faggotry even called?

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>>11254755
>it was real in my mind
I'll give you this much: the hormones must be working, because you talk like a bimbo.

>> No.11254897

>>11254853
I'm boring and dress in drab colours, normalshit. Worship my uninteresting ass like you do your own.

>> No.11254918

>>11254897
Boring is better than annoying any day.

>> No.11255265 [DELETED] 

>>11254639

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>>11254639
It's all about having fun.

>> No.11255289

>>11254849
This dichotomy is no longer commonly recognized by researchers. Before you say that this is because of some PC conspiracy it regularly gets derided even by people who think that being trans is a mental illness.

>> No.11256342

>>11247334
It's not hard to see that estrogen can fuck you up and you can't control estrogen level with a shitty diet
it's all related to eating.

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