University is a joke

[Anonymous No.11237481]

I went to a very good university and studied a well respected degree, not gonna say which because it would make me identifiable but trust me, legit nobel factory college, in the top 100 world ranking etc.. the major is also ins omething thats usually well respected...

well, i learned NOTHING and now im USELESS. Dont get me wrong, i had good grades, i did what they asked me to, i got my degree, and now its useless, in what meme did i fall why does this happen. I feel like that illiterate kid that got passed in high school because it was easier than teaching him. Its not money cause i had a full scholarship and really good grades. But i just learned strictly what they required me to. my family thought it was enough and my degree says im capable, but there are no starter jobs that are even vaguely better than working at mcdonalds, and in any case im too old for them.

Anyone can relate or am i an idiot, anyone experience something similar with their education?

[Anonymous No.11237491]

>>11237481
yeah, in europe we have a word for that, it's called
"Fachkräftemangel"

basically a bunch of boomers lying to us so that they can justify importing more pajeets. sorry kid. every industry's fucked.

[Anonymous No.11237500]

>>11237481
Based on your spelling you probably just forgot to take your meds and imagined going to college.

[Anonymous No.11237501]

>>11237491
>yeah, in europe we have a word for that,
What do you mean "in europe"? Europe has a lot of countries that don't speak germanic languages

[Anonymous No.11237504]

>>11237500
english is not my first language or my second for that matter.

[Anonymous No.11237508]

>>11237501
what are you, french?

[Anonymous No.11237510]

>>11237481
Did you not network?

[Anonymous No.11237511]

>>11237491
>Fachkräftemangel
what does that translate to?

>>11237500
but yes, my major wasnt in literature as you can see

[Anonymous No.11237512]

>>11237481
Don't confirm or deny this but I'm just going to guess Harvard...
I think harvard is alright but I've never been there. Everybody complains about what they're doing but I think it's not so bad.
>>11237491
>In Europe we have a German word for that
>>11237500
Based
>>11237501
Based
>>11237504
Based

[Anonymous No.11237514]

>>11237481
>the major is also ins omething thats usually well respected...
>usually well respected...
>usually

CS is meme degree that is only respected because people confuse it with CpE.

[Anonymous No.11237523]

>>11237511
>>Fachkräftemangel
>what does that translate to?
a lack of skilled workers

[Anonymous No.11237576]

>>11237481
>i did what they asked me to
University isn't a joke, but you're a fucking clown

[Anonymous No.11237580]

You just forgot to build a network. I can only talk about what's going on in France, but network is very important here. The sheet of paper you get at the end of your school is one thing. But you should have already people wanting to hire you before you even get your diploma.
You probably just went full autistic.

[Anonymous No.11237582]

>>11237576
HOW, HOW THE FUCK???
ALL OF MY FUCKING LIFE MY MOM SAYS: ANON GO TO COLLEGE YOU GET MONEY LIKE THAT
FATHER SAYS: ANON YOU HAVE TO GO TO COLLEGE TO GET MONEY

I OBEY THEM

WHAT IS COLLEGE?
THE PLACE WHERE YOU LEARN STUFF

WHY DOES IT RESULT IN MONEY?
IT LETS YOU LEARN SOMETHING THAT OTHER PEOPLE DONT DO AND THAT ITS HARD SO ITS SCARCE AND PEOPLE GET MONEY FOR THAT

HOW DO YOU LEARN IT?
BY DOING WHAT THE TEACHERS IN YOUR ASSIGNMENTS TELL YOU TO DO. HOW WAS I SUPOSE TO KNOW BETTER, THEY ARE THE TEACHERS IM THE STUDENT, I DDI WHAT THEY ASKED AND I GOT GOOD GRADES WHY AM I NOT MONEY NOW

[Anonymous No.11237584]

>>11237491
I have never heard of that word friend

[Anonymous No.11237586]

>>11237580
>You probably just went full autistic.
this to the max i never spoken to anyone, i never "got" what anyone was doing, students got together formed bonds and shit... BUT NOBODY TOLD ME IT WAS LIKE THIS, even lazy students with much less grades than me got good jobs from contacts...
i just went, read book, do the job, and if something was bad, then ask the teacher, what is bad about this? change it, and i learned from that

[Anonymous No.11237601]

>>11237584
that's probably because you're a coalworker

[Anonymous No.11237604]

>>11237586
you should have stayed in academia
ask your profs if they have positions for you.

[Anonymous No.11237614]

>>11237481
Sounds like you spent your time following directions and getting good grades instead of actually learning. That's your own fault

[Anonymous No.11237632]

>>11237614
how was i supposed to know? who tells you, i was willing to do anything to do what it needed. now my life is wasted

[Anonymous No.11237653]

>>11237511
>Fachkräftemangel
DepartmentPersonelDefect

[Anonymous No.11237658]

>>11237504
>not muh first language
Lazy spelling, bad punctuation and simplistic have nothing to do with first or fourth language, but with the rotten LSD that made you imagine your degree

[Anonymous No.11237661]

>>11237481
>not gonna say which because it would make me identifiable.
Can you at least say what the broad subject is?

[Anonymous No.11237665]

>>11237658
if i were to take lsd that wouldnt change a thing, it does not "go bad" like milk, it would either work or not. Whos uneducated now?

>>11237661
Its architecture, good luck finding me

[Anonymous No.11237671]

>>11237665
>Its architecture
LoL for a second there I felt for you

>not a worthless degree

[Anonymous No.11237672]

>>11237665
You obviously, as you thought that I seriously implied that you took rotten LSD.
Also, brainlet, anything that you put in your mouth (besides water) can go bad, as there is not one single food/drink that I know of that doesn't contain organic molecules, and those can react and go 'bad'.

[Anonymous No.11237673]

>>11237671
no one thinks so at least, its what my parents wanted, its like being a lawyer, it takes a long ass time. Anyway, im doing like shit compared to my peers

[OP No.11237695]

>>11237653
not it means proficient employee deficit
proficient as in "has studied a science"

[Anonymous No.11237698]

>>11237672
its hard to understand you dawg

[Anonymous No.11237721]

>>11237673
>im doing like shit compared to my peers
Have you tried turning yourself on and off again?
e_e

[Anonymous No.11237731]

>>11237721
i might try, hope i cant be turned back on again.

[Anonymous No.11237733]

>>11237481
so you found out finally you were born into a class system and the shit you were raised on was fake. congrats.

[Anonymous No.11237734]

A tale as old as time:
>he fell for the STEM meme

[Anonymous No.11237766]

>>11237665
>architecture
I took 2 years of architecture at one of the top 10 schools for it in the world before dropping and doing pure maths. Realized it was essentially a glorified visual art degree, pay is garbage and I fucking hated all my pretentious fuck teachers. Literally teach it like an art class, talk about your 'feelings' rather than the design, in fact whether the design works or not doesn't matter, in fact being aesthetically pleasing doesn't even matter so long as you can express how it represents your feelings of being oppressed and fights the patriarchy, as a white gigachad male I obviously didn't fit in but still managed to get A's because I can still play their faggy games. Truly a garbage degree though

[Anonymous No.11237768]

>>11237481
The purpose of education never has been, is not now, and never will be to make money. Stupid people will sputter in response to this truth.

[Anonymous No.11237901]

[Anonymous No.11237963]

>>11237508
French will be Europe's united language, learn it while you can

[Anonymous No.11237996]

>live in poland
>get MSc in biology
>they offer me a job of 2300pln/ month wage

[Anonymous No.11239395]

>>11237996

[Anonymous No.11239421]

>>11237963
HELLO I AM AN AMERICAN TOURIST VISITING YOUR NEET LITTLE CUNTRY
WHAT? WHY ARE YOU UPSET I AM SPEAKING ENGLISH? EVERYONE ELSE SEEMED TO UNDEERSTAND ME?

[Anonymous No.11239423]

>>11237481
should've listened to aaron clarey keke

[Anonymous No.11239574]

>>11237481
same although i studied maths so i guess i asked for it

[Anonymous No.11239584]

Lesson learned: study non-relevant shit, make non-relevant money

[Anonymous No.11239679]

>>11237582
Your parents were the ones who actually memed you.

>WHAT IS COLLEGE? THE PLACE WHERE YOU LEARN STUFF
Uh, kinda. It's supposed to be a place full of smart people that gives said smart people conditions to further develop their skills. Unlike K-12 (or whatever you want to call education up to your last High School year), you aren't expected to learn passively in college, but to chase your intellectual pursuits by yourself and use your university as means to improve your learning experience. But in reality, you'll usually just have to figure most shit out by yourself. Essentially, you get fucked if you trust your uni to teach you all that you need to know.

>IT LETS YOU LEARN SOMETHING THAT OTHER PEOPLE DONT [...]
That is wrong. Not only the skills you acquire as an undergrad are not that hard to learn as you say, but there is also not the scarcity you say. There are a fuckton of shit degree factories that have the nerve to call themselves universities that graduate fucktons of undergrads all over the world. How do you compete with them? Well, the best way to actually get good jobs is through networking. You're supposed to already build your connections as a student, so that you'll have actual opportunities avaliable to you once you graduate. Companies aren't fond of hiring nobodies with a 3.9 GPA. They'll always prefer people who have indications from people they trust, so that it'll be less likely that they're hiring a retard.

>BY DOING WHAT TEACHERS IN YOUR ASSIGNMENTS TELL YOU TO DO [...]
I feel sorry for you, anon. I really do. But as I said earlier, it's more important to have good connections than having good grades. You fell into the same trap that many young people do: thinking that just following the usual path until you graduate would do it. If only you had a mentor-like, more experienced figure to guide you through your undergrad studies I'm sure things would've turned out better for you.

[Anonymous No.11239719]

>>11237582
Go to a trade school and you won't have to deal with this bullshit. No one cares about "networking" you either have the skills or you don't.

[Anonymous No.11239760]

>>11237632
Something you should realize is that, aside from a few people who actually give you advice, nobody is going to tell you what's going on. You're going to have to figure out a lot of how this shit works on your own. It's life, get over it.

Also, quit bitching. Your life isn't wasted as long as you're still alive. I'm sure even your pea-brain can figure out how to make money with whatever college degree you have. If you can't, do something else.

[Anonymous No.11239792]

>>11237614
>That's your own fault
Not really, that's the fault of him actually trusting authority figures who meant well.

[Anonymous No.11239830]

>>11237481
Well. Opposed to you, I went to a >200 rank uni you've never heard about, went on to do a PhD at a >100 rank uni you probably also haven't heard about. Before I even handed in my thesis I had my postdoc lined up already at a >50 uni you might have heard of. Sure, postdoc life isn't glorious, but it's good money for an essentially stress-free job. The trick is to be good at what you do, the degree alone doesn't buy you squat. If you just rattle down the curriculum for good grades - of course you'll fail miserably.

[Anonymous No.11239834]

>>11237481
The more you know, the more ignorant you feel like, because you're able to pinpoint how your knowledge could possibly be expanded. This is a common feeling in any graduate that actually took an interest in what they were studying.

[Anonymous No.11240042]

>>11239679
>If only you had a mentor-like, more experienced figure to guide you through your undergrad studies I'm sure things would've turned out better for you.
SHOULDNT THAT HAVE BEEN MY FATHER??!?!?!?! SHIT, INSTEAD OF JUST MEMEING ME TO GO TROUGH THE SAME SHIT HE DID, I MEAN THEY BOTH WENT TO COLLEGE AND NO ONE SAID SHIT, WAS BOOMER COLLEGE DIFFERENT?

[Anonymous No.11240065]

>>11240042
I don't know, he might have thought you'd be able to figure things by yourself or something, but it's not like I know you our your father enough well to tell what went on. I think you should calm down and get your shit together before anything else. You must be pretty upset and insecure about your future, but keep in mind that lots of other people are also going through such problems. Don't treat such a common issue as the end of your life, just chill and think better through it when you're calm. And stop thinking about what you did wrong, you already fucked up. Think about the stuff you can do from now on

[Anonymous No.11240446]

>>11237481
>in the top 100 world ranking
>Only got a bachelor's
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OK this is a case of the Dunning Kruger effect. If you don't do at least a master's and didn't go to a world top 20 for a respectable STEM subject/Law, don't expect anything good to come from your degree. Your qualifications are two a penny.
t. world top 3 graduate, now in medicine and hoping to apply for a PhD once I get my medical degree

[Anonymous No.11241160]

>>11240446
I don't think he should take advice from someone who did a bachelor's then got into medicine and then is going to get a PhD and maybe make money after 2 decades of retardation at 40.

[Anonymous No.11241571]

>>11237481
kek, obviously. University is supposed to make you an informed (enlightened, if you will) citizen. It's supposed to give you skills and networks for future endeavors able to change the course of mankind.
Well, it used to be like that. It's not that easy anymore.

[B1gB4c0n No.11242255]

School is for tards. It's about the paper, and some light brainwashing. (coming from someone with STEM B.S. + M.S. from similar institutions)

99.9% of it is about you teaching yourself everything else at this point. Forget all about school - it's behind you now.

[Anonymous No.11242262]

>>11241160
i legit know a guy like that at my uni. he studied organic chem at harvard or some shit. now he is studying medicine.
hes a 30+ yr old creeper hitting on 18 yr old med students
its just a law suit waiting to happen
he also gets used as a lab cuck by the bio group lol

[Anonymous No.11242269]

>>11240446

PHD basically make flipping burger salary

[Anonymous No.11242274]

>>11242269

what else do you expect when 99.9% of all PhDs nowadays are basically awarded out of pity because nobody has the heart to tell people that their idea is shit and their work is meaningless?
if anything, the current generation of profs themselves have the same history i.e. they haven't anything to show for their time except being good students

[Anonymous No.11242330]

>>11239834
nah. dont listen to this
>>11239830
>academia is good if you never plan to leave it
thanks captain obvious

>>11237481
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT TO ALL ZOOMERS / ANYONE CONSIDERING COLLEGE
DO NOT GO TO COLLEGE
I got a CS degree. The industry is fucked. Even if it wasn't there's still zero reason to get a CS degree.
There is no reason to get any degree unless you want to be a professor.

[Anonymous No.11242342]

You sound like a fucking retard with a meme degree from a meme school

[Anonymous No.11242376]

>>11240042
>WAS BOOMER COLLEGE DIFFERENT?
yes

[Anonymous No.11242379]

>>11242262
hey if its okay for leo di caprio to sleep with 18 yos its okay for us

[Anonymous No.11243135]

I can just relate to it with my masters. It's made accessible to people outside the field so most of it is just a repeat of undergrad but then just more annoying (more writing of research papers, more group work....). Really feels like a giant waste of time and makes me wonder what even the point is of having a masters degree around there, feel like it should just be removed since it just serves as a make up degree for people who choose the wrong undergrad. But in Europe it's mandatory to go through a Msc before you can get into (paid) phd positions at an university.

>>11237510
Networking at uni is a true meme. The only ones that I've encountered that networked themselves in a good job was the same clique all from the same village who would then work for the same company in the same village. Often these type of people are truly inept at everything they do as well. I'd say just have yourself well rounded, try to publish some research while in your masters and try to leverage that into a phd position. I myself do not really care about business since the only real way to make money out of business is starting one yourself. Wagecucking for 1.5x median or 2.5x median, both is pretty shit I'd rather just do something by myself for myself.

[Anonymous No.11243161]

>>11243135
>Networking at uni is a true meme.
I got my first two jobs by networking. First where the boss was a friend of my uncle, second where the boss was a friend of a professor I got along well with. Now my current job I had 0 connections going in, but now that I have a massive resume full of impressive shit for someone my age networking truly doesn't matter... until I aspire for management positions, which I don't do yet.

Trust me, there is nothing more suffering than having lots of skills and knowledge but not being able to let anyone know because... no one knows you.

[Anonymous No.11243172]

>>11237734
>"fell"

[Anonymous No.11243178]

>be me
>study pharmacy
>earn 105k just from just sitting on my ass giving prescription drugs and paracetamol
>tfw

[Anonymous No.11243191]

>>11243178
Big brain. I also want to get rich by killing poor people with fentanyl.

[Anonymous No.11243282]

>>11237963
*arabic

[Anonymous No.11243292]

>>11237481
https://youtu.be/HsPDjEc0wt8

[Anonymous No.11243299]

>>11243135
In business the networking is even more important.

[Anonymous No.11243324]

>>11237481
Don't worry, just keep studying.

[Anonymous No.11244255]

>>11237996
Shocker. Which field did you graduate in?

[Anonymous No.11244391]

dropped out of architecture school
gonna become architect, nuclear, electrical, & chemical engineer
I knew better

[Anonymous No.11244392]

legit guys look at the b.arch program, there's NO engineering

[Anonymous No.11244395]

op, do u know how to find the deflection of a beam? do you know metallurgy of welds? Do you know how to bea a slab of granite?

[Anonymous No.11244398]

>>11244392
the NIGGERZ in architecture don't even learn foundations

[Anonymous No.11244406]

how did you put it
>I just graduated M.Arch, the hardest of stem & art combined

[Anonymous No.11244414]

Peter Keating

[Anonymous No.11245285]

>>11237695
no it doesn't

[Anonymous No.11245291]

>>11237963
french are so afraid their shitstain of a language is infiltrated by english words, the government established a whole department to defend the french ""language"" cope

[Anonymous No.11245373]

Heres an article about why college grads have such a hard time finding work and why big tech employers like Amazon prefer to import workers from India. Anyone who is currently accruing debt getting an educational certificate is probably wondering how much worse their prospects will be by the time they graduate and how much more competition is going to be out there.
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2019/12/21/munro-washpost-excludes-u-s-graduates-from-migration-outsourcing-politics/

[Anonymous No.11245588]

>>11239719
Fucking wrong asshole. You have to have connections to be able to be taught the necessary skills

[Anonymous No.11246719]

>>11245588
not at trade school. roool'n 4 triple dubs

[Anonymous No.11247228]

>>11237481
Well, back in my day (yes, I'm old) there were about 96 phd grads in astrophysics that year, and about 20-some openings for that type of degree. High-falootin, but impractical. A friend of mine became a budget analyst at Goddard. Seriously? Yeah. I switched majors to just get a degree as quickly as possible, and went into tech support when PCs were just becoming a household thing (early 80s). I was lucky.

[Anonymous No.11247248]

>>11237481
The ONLY thing that matters in life is "who you know, and a bit of what you know".

College gives you a chance to make a fuck-ton of connections. No, not your fucking professors, but those are definitely involved. It's your peers.

After you triage the bumfuck druggies and dropouts, there are a lot, and I mean a *lot* of classmates who will hit the life-lottery, and be awesome and have a great fucking life and be heads of everything. The thing is, all you have to do is party and do all the fun youth things in college with these people. You are the beacon of the good ol' days.

If you are their friend, you will absolutely have doors open for you.

I'm a closet druggie, but holy shit am I moving places because old friends are offering me all kinds of shit because I understand them and hang out with them.


If you do not understand that making successful friends and connections is easy as fuck in college, and that it is the absolute reason you should go to college, you fucked up.

College (and life) is not "insert money, get A -> get jerbs", its called putting in some goddamn effort.

If you don't fuck you, you fucked up.

That said

FUCK THE GODDAMN SYSTEM I hope student loans all burn

[Anonymous No.11247671]

>>11242330
>CS degree
where do you live

[Anonymous No.11247715]

>>11247671
in a cardboard box on the sidewalk next to a where the homeless men poop in san francisco

[Anonymous No.11248216]

>>11237481

Useless in what way?