/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.11224893]

Mind uploading and teleportation. The problem of who is the original and who is the copy.

From an overall point of view, they're both the original.

https://youtu.be/KUXKUcsvhQc

[Anonymous No.11225185]

Identity is transcendental for it cannot be shown to ever juxtapose to any material support of any kind.
>Ever.
Science is demonstrably, and thus, philosophically, proven contingent.

[Anonymous No.11225294]

>>11224893
Just add worldlines to the definition of identity and you can distinguish between the original and the copy since no two particles can occupy the same space. Easy.

[Anonymous No.11225327]

>>11224893
>The problem of who is the original and who is the copy.
Stop being a soulfag and the problem disappears.

[Anonymous No.11225332]

>>11224893
Fundamentally, there needs to be "bidirectional" thought for any transfer in order to preserve ego continuity. If we imagine a mind as like water or some fluid, and the brain as a vessel for it, then just "pouring" the mind into a new vessel doesn't preserve continuity; the new mind in the new vessel can't communicate back to old mind in the old vessel.
However, if we consider simply connecting the two vessels and siphoning the mind from one to the other (at whatever speed) while the new mind can talk to the old mind as the latter is transferred to the former, then continuity is maintained and death does not occur.
Thus the Moravec Transfer/Gradual neuron replacement or the Mind Outsourcing are viable methods for a mind upload, but those two methods are far harder to achieve than simply creating a copy of one's mind. The Moravec Transfer only changes the substrate and the Gradual Upload requires a fully knowledge of your own internal processes(autosentience)..

[Anonymous No.11225334]

>>11225332
>ego continuity.
Hold on their champ. That's an extraordinary claim you just casually made with no evidence.