Our universe has to be positively curved right?

[Anonymous No.11214874]

how would a universe with flat curvature even exist? If gravity and matter have to balance each other out then spacetime must fold in on itself at t=0 and should therefore have a positive curvature as time passes. Why is it that we still believe in a a zero curvature? I know that the planck measurements are indicating towards a flat universe but that can just be error on our part. A zero curvature universe means that matter dark energy has always existed in excess to the amount of gravity holding matter at the singularity which would explain why the universe banged yet fails to explain why did it begin in such a tiny amount in the first place. Did someone just turn on the dark energy switch at t=0? Even if they did, I don't see why the universe could be flat unless dark energy was infinitely stronger than gravity which it isn't apparently.

[Anonymous No.11214883]

>>11214874
The universe is closed and a torus. We live in a invited which is dominated by electricity and electric current. Look up Immanuel Valikovsky

[Anonymous No.11214890]

>>11214874
It's 4d curvature or 4d flat
Images in OP confuses layman who they are supposed to help

[Anonymous No.11214902]

>>11214874
Retard how do you want to curve something that doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.11214946]

The universe is just a simulation nothing matters

[Anonymous No.11215308]

>>11214874
A flat universe is total bullshit desu.

[Anonymous No.11215385]

>>11214874
The universe is flat. See this short layman lecture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veU6hK3jMH4

[Anonymous No.11215418]

>>11215385
this lecture is enlightning

[Anonymous No.11215437]

>>11214874
it's curved inwards, in an eventual gigantic loop

[Anonymous No.11215451]

>>11214874

[Anonymous No.11215482]

>>11214874
>If gravity and matter have to balance each other out then spacetime must fold in on itself
no
>>11214874
>A zero curvature universe means that matter dark energy has always existed in excess to the amount of gravity holding matter at the singularity which would explain why the universe banged yet fails to explain why did it begin in such a tiny amount in the first place.
no, flatness just means the total density parameter is 1, this could all come from mass with zero dark energy
>Did someone just turn on the dark energy switch at t=0?
everything turned on at t=0
>I don't see why the universe could be flat unless dark energy was infinitely stronger than gravity which it isn't apparently.
Dark energy is just the energy density of empty space

[Anonymous No.11215507]

if an object falling into a black hole appears frozen in time at the event horizon from our point of view, but black holes can grow over time, wouldn't the object appear to be consumed by the black hole?

[Anonymous No.11215514]

What if I told you that the universe was shaped like a tea kettle?

[Anonymous No.11215527]

>>11215514
I dun thunk er bloddy Majesty allows that!

[Anonymous No.11215717]

>>11214883
This negro speaks the Truth.
The Universe is a never-ending cycle of birth and death in the shape of spherical torus.

[Anonymous No.11215723]

>>11214874
our universe is flat, the earth, which we walk on, is the floor or "mid-level" of it
none of these ((((theories)))) hold any water against objective observation

[Anonymous No.11215724]

the earth is flat therefore the universe must also be flat otherwise the earth would follow the universe's curvature

[Anonymous No.11215752]

>>11215723
>>11215724

[Anonymous No.11215849]

>>11214874
Universe is a cone

[Anonymous No.11216687]

>>11215717
that is an attractive idea and probably true because it makes sense to me

[Anonymous No.11217493]

>>11214874
imagine it can be negatively curved.

[Anonymous No.11217514]

>imagine thinking that global topology of the universe must be determined by its matter content, just because locally matter curves spacetime

Total brainletism. Universe is infinite, globally has zero curvature, with some local gravity fields caused by local matter which are pretty much irrelevant to its global shape.

[Anonymous No.11217597]

>>11217514
> Universe is infinite
Total brainletism.

[Anonymous No.11217645]

>>11217597

>universe is totally like an asteroids game, bro!

Total IFLscientism.

Universe is flat and without a boundary, until proven otherwise.

[Anonymous No.11217674]

>>11217645
>until proven otherwise.
8)
there are some things you can not prove friend.

[Anonymous No.11217678]

>>11217514
>Universe is infinite

infinity is unphysical

[Anonymous No.11217836]

>>11217514
>Universe is infinite
Infinities don't exist

[Anonymous No.11218302]

>>11215385
>Calls out glowniggers at Los alamos