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Anonymous Sun Dec 8 07:19:56 2019 No.11209355 [Reply] [Original]

Dear /sci/,
here comes a problem that, as it stands, has greatest influence on our future. Civilization will not settle space. Because communication speed is limited to light speed and distance ensures, that any settlement beyond our solar system over long reaches a stage where it can build a weapon to destroy earth and launch it with next to no chance of interception. This risk is based on communication delay due to light speed only, a very solid constant.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 07:24:10 2019 No.11209362 >>11209355 >>>/x/

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 07:37:38 2019 No.11209385 >>11209362 What about it is paranormal?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 07:40:47 2019 No.11209391 >>11209385 What about this is scientific?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 07:50:43 2019 No.11209406 >>11209385 The fact that you think that something can reach light speed or that someone will destroy earth.

Anonymous Sun Dec 8 07:55:25 2019 No.11209420

>>11209355
As far as I know, many of the scientific astronomers want to explore space. So it affects an important part of the scientific community. And the problem is scientific in that the limitation of speed of communication leads to the critical delay.

>>11209406
I heard light reaches light speed. Must have been on /x/.
And looking back on the past 1000 years and concluding onto the next million, I think the probability is high, that two separated settlements will at some point wage all-out war has some probability.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 07:56:30 2019 No.11209423 >>11209420 >I heard light reaches light speed Aside from light, you know what I meant, cunt.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 07:56:50 2019 No.11209425 >>11209355 Nukes have no chance of interception either but we managed to not kill our selves with them for over sixty years. Misanthropic meme logic at work here.

Anonymous Sun Dec 8 08:45:45 2019 No.11209495

>>11209423
And I talked about communication. Which might use light if it is the most efficient eventually.
The weapon does not need to go at light speed. If it comes as hundreds of single ones going not-straight lines where a single one ends it here... creativity knows no limits here.
What can help is if higher life becomes much more robust and independent from the biosphere. This might save life but not the biosphere.
>>11209425
Nukes do limited damage due to technically limited size. And considering news from NK or Iran I conclude, that they as a problem have yet to be solved.
One way of handling doubts surely is to deny and ignore them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 09:02:27 2019 No.11209522 >>11209355 >2019 >still using speed instead of rapidity >hence misunderstanding what speed means

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 09:03:40 2019 No.11209525 >>11209362 No thanks, help yourself there alone. This is the hard truth.

>>	OP Sun Dec 8 09:06:50 2019 No.11209531 >>11209525 Which please is the hard truth?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 09:08:00 2019 No.11209534 >>11209531 Spacetravel will suck and when we interact with one-another it's to be a nuisance.

>>	OP Sun Dec 8 10:56:04 2019 No.11209744 This would also explain, why no artificial structure has been found yet, despite possible hundred millions of years of exponential growth.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 13:41:36 2019 No.11210105 Humans will radiate out into space and diverge evolutionarily, we're just a transient stage in the universal seeding of life

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 13:45:30 2019 No.11210115 >>11209744 >I took a bucket of water out of the ocean and found no whales >Whales confirmed fake

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 13:47:23 2019 No.11210118 >>11209355 What about wormholes? Is there any chance they could actually exist or be created?

OP Sun Dec 8 14:40:26 2019 No.11210247

>>11210115
Your analogy, while assuming exponentially growing life after several hundred million years, would more be like:
>I took a bucket of water out of the ocean and found no traces of life. Life in the oceans confirmed fake.
Likely for a child at the beach knowing nothing about the ocean, or people observing the sky in the dark ages.
Far less likely, in the times of scientific, relatively advanced observation technology.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 14:41:55 2019 No.11210250 >>11209355 try using quantum entanglement for communication.

>>	OP Sun Dec 8 14:52:41 2019 No.11210283 >>11210118 A chance might remain, but in my imperfectly-informed understanding there also remain major physical obstacles. >>11210250 I agree that from the unknown frontiers of physics a solution could arise.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 14:53:52 2019 No.11210285 >>11209406 Light speed is a barrier as much as the speed of sound was a barrier 200 years ago, dipshit.

>>	OP Sun Dec 8 17:37:39 2019 No.11210657 >>11210285 It is more basic and universal, though it still might be surpassed eventually.

>>	OP Mon Dec 9 07:28:28 2019 No.11212200 bump

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