Genuine or a Hack?

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Anonymous Thu Dec 5 00:31:31 2019 No.11200724 [Reply] [Original]

Genuine or a Hack?

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>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 00:37:02 2019 No.11200738 >>11200733 How so?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 00:37:04 2019 No.11200739 >>11200724 Conman, modern day Thomas Edison.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 00:39:43 2019 No.11200744 >>11200724 More successful than many (if not all) in this board.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 00:42:19 2019 No.11200748 >>11200724 He's a hack and a manchild.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 00:51:38 2019 No.11200764 My American cousin keeps telling me how he's one if the greatest scientist after Einstein. Says he put Man on Mars even when all of Earth's scientists told him he won't be able to do it.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 00:58:26 2019 No.11200771
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Genuine, mostly. Its undeniable that without him we would not have reusable rockets and electric cars would be much less popular. He has his quirks, like calling that guy a pedo, but his net effect on human progress is undeniably positive. Only dumb reddit socialists disagree. I love how they seethe because its a capitalist genuinely innovating again, while Venezuela is still a shithole.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 01:01:14 2019 No.11200774

He's like Donald Trump in many ways.

Became rich from a fluke. (lucked out on paypal) Decided to use his wealth to turn his name intro a profitable brand.
His name is now greater than he himself is, but he conflates his "brand name" with his personal identity and ends up with unhealthy sized ego and probably messed up in the head too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 01:05:00 2019 No.11200779 >>11200771 Is he smart technically, though? Was everything his own Innovation? Does he understand the science behind it? Is he a brilliant Scientist and then an Entrepreneur? Or is it the other way round?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 01:11:11 2019 No.11200792 >>11200724 A genuine hack >>11200739 Also this. The guy even admitted Edison was one of his biggest role models. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OOI6sYK-NM

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 01:13:57 2019 No.11200797 >>11200779 Does it even matter? Genius managers/enterpreneurs can be as useful as genius scientists. But yeah, he knows a lot about rocket surgery.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 01:13:59 2019 No.11200798

I dont know what kind of redditor you have to be to believe a guy who created(yes i know Tesla technically wasnt started by him) two of the biggest,innovative and well liked companies in the world and with a hand in another bunch of em 'just lucked out or some shit'

The dude literally has the ability the make people believe in his vision on the level of jesus. and he manages to actually accomplish it in the real world too

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 01:16:01 2019 No.11200801 >>11200798 Yeah that SpaceX thing is the most incredible I think. Some of his companies don't seem to be doing much like Neuralink or the Hyperloop. I think he's just trying to be technocracy Jesus.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 01:16:32 2019 No.11200804 >>11200797 I didn't mean it in a negative way. I was just curious as to what his strengths were.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 02:54:26 2019 No.11200937 >>11200808 This.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 03:03:14 2019 No.11200944 >>11200779 >Is he smart Smart enough to become a billionaire, and pay smarter people chump change to do the dumb shit he wants to do, like dig tunnels under cities, or reusable rockets, the benefits have been a net positive though

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 03:07:08 2019 No.11200949 >>11200738 >>11200733 a genuine hack >>11200744 >lol he hab more muni den u fuck off my board you insufferable, money hungry troglodyte. there are more things than money in this world. >>11200944 >engineers >smart LMAO THIS IS GOLD

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 03:31:12 2019 No.11200988 >>11200724 Nowhere near as intelligent as people claim but definitely not a hack either. His primary skill isn't his engineering skills but his ability to lead others into executing his goals.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 03:42:03 2019 No.11201006 >mars 2030s instead of mars never Genuine hack.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 11:53:41 2019 No.11201772 Musk vs Zuck vs Bezos. Who wins?

Heathrow Thu Dec 5 12:20:25 2019 No.11201850

The guy is a joke, I've seen highscool kids in first robotics with his talent. Not saying he is not smart. although he is no einstein or tesla. however, we are in a new era where stem is becoming increasingly more complex therefore making it harder to have a single mind behind the key development of our society and/or a branch of applied sciences/math. This is my opinion as I may be wrong in the future.... but that truck was a giant publicity stunt to use his internet fan base to show his popularity and grow his stock price. Which it worked.. baka

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:21:15 2019 No.11201855 He's what brainlets think a smart person is

>>	Heathrow Thu Dec 5 12:24:44 2019 No.11201875 >>11200798 I agree, but I think everyone gets a bit of luck here and there. While he might be smart I have to say he got lucky and played his cards right. still does not make him to be the messiah the internet portrays him as

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:25:57 2019 No.11201877 >>11200774 zip2 made him a millionaire. paypal made him 100 millionaire. tesla made him a billionaire. spacex made him multi-billionaire. boring company(if it succeeds) will push him into 100 billionaire.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:26:59 2019 No.11201879 >>11200808 fake rocket. he's a fraud. no way can this fake engineer and conman make rockets.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:39:49 2019 No.11201925 >>11200724 not a messiah like some people treat him but he makes otherwise normal people turn into retarded flat earth tier nutters (see >>11201879) which is pretty funny

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:40:59 2019 No.11201930 Smart people don't make baseless accusations against other people just because they told you to stick your sub in your ass. What an idiot calling him a pedo, enjoy the libel suit

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:51:15 2019 No.11201973 >>11201930 >baseless >30 year old unmarried british man living in thailand he was a pedo, musk just failed to prove it

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:57:08 2019 No.11201987 >>11200724 A genuine businessman that happened to be interested in technology and pop culture, making him invest in areas that other businessman wouldn't invest.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 12:59:36 2019 No.11201996 >>11200949 seething loser

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 13:02:55 2019 No.11202005

>>11200724
He's genuine. Sure, he's not a scientist nor engineer like how some portray him as, and his personality quirks can be annoying at times. But he has an eye for good technologies, the funding to support them, and the drive to go for risky ventures. He made spaceflight abit popular again, so that's another plus.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 13:06:40 2019 No.11202016 File: 19 KB, 446x435, 1575241461198.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11200949 > there are more things than money in this world no there's not t. broke-ass pleb

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 13:08:53 2019 No.11202019 >>11201973 You see usually you prove something first before making claims. Elon is no scientist and that proves it. He's just some rich attention whore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 13:09:52 2019 No.11202021 File: 533 KB, 586x514, blunderfoot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11201879 t.blunderfoot

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 13:11:03 2019 No.11202025 >>11200724 He is the proof that not all Africans are dumb.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 13:18:18 2019 No.11202040 >>11202021 I don't think thunderf00t would be stupid enough to suggest that SpaceX fakes their rockets, especially with NASA being one of their largest customers. I'd think NASA would catch on really quick.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 13:19:06 2019 No.11202045 >>11202005 He's like DaVinci. They don't have engineering degrees and they're just businessmen doing things.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 13:19:24 2019 No.11202047 >>11202019 A rich attention whore who makes lefties incredibly salty and has his own space program, I'd say he's pretty based

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 13:22:46 2019 No.11202051 >>11202047 A rich businessman/engineer who triggers lefties, righties, old car companies, ISP companies, wallstreet shorts, oil companies, LA times, and CNBC.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 13:26:38 2019 No.11202064 File: 28 KB, 400x298, 1573309172836.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11200724 >Genuine or a Hack? You tell me

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 13:29:55 2019 No.11202072 >>11200771 Genuinely good things can indeed occur within a capitalistic society, it's just not a requirement nor a financial advantage for them to be genuinely good. Muskie took some huge financial risks for the greater good, solid chap

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 13:37:42 2019 No.11202089

>>11202047
Do people like you really find that bothering or disturbing people to be all that fulfilling, like it should be glorified. Help me understand this, why would you want to "trigger" someone, isnt there enough negative emotions in the world without intentionally causing it? Seems almost inhumane, unnatural to seek that out, definitely cant be healthy mentally

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 13:55:50 2019 No.11202118 >>11202089 People get euphoria from doing something they believe justifies their rational. This is how positive reinforced beliefs come from.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 14:02:27 2019 No.11202127

>>11202089
Because people who mindlessly hate anyone succesful (which is 100% of the "reeee musk" types) are simply bucket crabs who should be laughed at. They're not worth more than petty amusement. The emotions of someone who wants only to bring down the successful aren't valuable to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 14:08:45 2019 No.11202139 >>11202118 How does "triggering" anyone justify their rationale? >>11202127 Yea I don't get it, people are weird

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 14:09:45 2019 No.11202143 >>11201772 jeffy b don't underestimate lex luthor

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 14:12:12 2019 No.11202150 >>11202139 It doesn't matter what the means is. Justification can be anything from farting to logical analysis to killing someone to eating shit. Humans have a robust rational system that can rationalize ANYTHING.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 14:12:23 2019 No.11202151 >>11202143 just saying, there's two kinds of men: 1) the kind that when they start going bald they get hair plugs and a toupee 2) the kind that when they start going bald they just shave their whole head make of that what you will

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 14:14:01 2019 No.11202154 >>11202151 there's two types of men 1) those whose rocket companies go to orbit 2) those whose rocket companies do not

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 14:14:52 2019 No.11202156 >>11200739 Thomas Edison wasn't a "hack"

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 14:21:06 2019 No.11202166 >>11202156 So no argument with him being a conman? Cool.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 14:24:01 2019 No.11202170 >>11201772 Zuck's a total loser and he'd do better to realise that and retire on his mountain of money. Musk is a dweeb that needs to chill out a bit and stop fishing for ego up his own rectum. Bezos needs to deal with his divorce, so presumably Bezos.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 14:36:39 2019 No.11202201 Musk has made numerous financial gambles for the good of humanity (getting us to space because we're fucking this shit up). I'd say genuine, but flawed as all humans are. It's just easier to see his versus others who pay publicists

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 14:45:01 2019 No.11202228

>>11202156
Lol.
Learn history mate
He was one of the first patent hoarder, all his engineers workforce made him. Just look into Nicolas Tesla who was so inginious but lost so much time fighting for the right to be known as the creators of EdisonCo’s product.

Edison electrocuted an elephant to shade a bad light on Tesla inventions

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 22:34:49 2019 No.11203484 >>11202228 Edison maybe a bad person but that doesn't mean he was a hack, he knew his Science.

Anonymous Thu Dec 5 23:38:08 2019 No.11203630

>>11200724
Smart stock manipulator.
Only genuine things he makes are Tesla, and maybe(BUT JUST MAYBE) SpaceX. Everything else is just media stunt to increase Tesla stocks.
>Hyperloop
wew lad, just a train in vacuum, except with shitty throughput and probably extremely expensive.
>Boring Company
Just dig tunnels at market rates, but make them smaller and don't add all necessary infrastructure to make them usable, so you can call them cheaper.
>AI and NeuraLink
This kinda cool
>SpaceX
Yeah, kinda redid what has been already done, over-hyped as hell, but good thing something move in rocket development.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 23:42:33 2019 No.11203634 >>11203630 >Yeah, kinda redid what has been already done, over-hyped as hell It’s not overhyped. SpaceX has caused the cost of putting stuff into orbit to plummet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 23:50:48 2019 No.11203647 >>11200771 He literally gets free money and his companies are unprofitable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 23:52:33 2019 No.11203649 >>11200771 Venezuala isn’t socialist under any definition of socialism

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 5 23:53:35 2019 No.11203655 >>11200949 >LMAO THIS IS GOLD Engineers are the reason human civilization exists, mongaloid.

Anonymous Fri Dec 6 00:00:07 2019 No.11203667

More vision than capability.

He's good at finding the best start up to generate wealth in. Especially when there is going to be government money to get.

Boring Company, if it can get TBM tunneling price down drastically. Like the Falcons did to launches. Then it stands ready to dominate mass transit projects coming. As cities unfuck 70 years of car dominance.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 00:05:09 2019 No.11203670 >>11203649 Cope harder

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 00:07:55 2019 No.11203674 >>11200724 Genuine HACK

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 00:13:25 2019 No.11203685 >>11203670 Cope harder

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 01:14:23 2019 No.11203792 >>11200724 Hope he gets buttfucked by "Pedo Guy"

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 01:24:05 2019 No.11203818 >>11200724 A genuine businessman, but that's all.

Anonymous Fri Dec 6 03:15:01 2019 No.11203967

he is no doubt the greatest man of the XXI century ever. Geniuses like him are born like 1 each 10000000 humans and only 1 in 10000000 actually succeed in life. He wll be remembered and recorded in history books among many other sucessful, maningful, masterminds and greater human beings like Leonardo da Vinci, Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, Napoleón Bonaparte, Cristóbal Colón, etc, after he passes away; he will earn his spot after he lands and sets the first human colony on Mars.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 03:36:12 2019 No.11203992 >>11203649 It's hell. Can't get closer to socialism than that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 03:39:33 2019 No.11203999 >>11200949 Engineering is the only thing that has made progress outside of bits in the last 60 years. Math and physics have been stagnant since the 1960s.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 03:42:40 2019 No.11204006 Genuine hack.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 04:34:47 2019 No.11204074 >>11203967 >he will earn his spot after he lands and sets the first human colony on Mars. This. I dont give a fuck about muh pedo tweets, if SpaceX does this then Musk will be greater than von Braun.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 04:36:42 2019 No.11204076 >>11202051 >triggers lefties, righties, old car companies, ISP companies, wallstreet shorts, oil companies, LA times, and CNBC. how can one man be so based

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 04:40:45 2019 No.11204080 >>11204076 Just be narcist with moneys

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 04:55:04 2019 No.11204090 Genius. Got the government to syphon him money and tax credits for a shit product and uses the money to get more tax credits. Is adored by media and everyday people for doing so, which gets his company more tax dollars.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 06:16:49 2019 No.11204173 >>11200774 Fluked it 6 times in a row I guess. Must just have good luck

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 06:19:02 2019 No.11204176 File: 1005 KB, 867x867, 4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11203484 stoopid fukking niggar edison

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 06:32:14 2019 No.11204195 >>11202089 Wow that’s deep man. Write a book

Anonymous Fri Dec 6 08:43:56 2019 No.11204381

>>11204195
It would be more interesting than triggering people, I can tell you that. If you derive pleasure from causing negative emotions to others, especially intentionally, there is something wrong with you, just saying. Humans are supposed to build each other up is all, not tear each other down

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 08:47:35 2019 No.11204386 >>11204381 Triggering political extremists such as assorted leftists who hate Musk because he is a capitalist is good. I guess you are against triggering Nazis, too?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 08:52:02 2019 No.11204392 >>11200801 Neuralink, despite not delivering on their far fetched goals yet, is vastly innovating on microfabrication of high quality neural sensors. They are doing a lot of solid research and development.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 08:53:54 2019 No.11204394 >>11203484 Dumb fuck, go to hell

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 08:55:27 2019 No.11204395 >>11202228 Chad edison (literally) virgin tesla

El Arcón Fri Dec 6 08:57:15 2019 No.11204396
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>>11203484
>>11204394
Knowing about pic related "science" is no badge of honor. It's like learning first hand how much paint you have to huff before you brain melts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 09:00:13 2019 No.11204402 >>11200733 The dubs of truth.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 09:35:03 2019 No.11204426 >>11202064 he probably used scalp massages

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 11:25:46 2019 No.11204570 >>11200771 The only reason SpaceX is able to do what they do is because of gubmint funding

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 15:56:20 2019 No.11205136 >>11204176 >>11204394 >>11204396 https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2012/05/18/nikola-tesla-wasnt-god-and-thomas-edison-wasnt-the-devil/#14e61271a21a

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 17:25:48 2019 No.11205351 >>11203967 >>11204074 This. Fuck the haters. #TeamMusk

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>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 18:23:20 2019 No.11205466 >>11205351 >kiddo gets monies from daddy >kiddo gets monies from big daddy gov >kiddo pays others to do his ideas >kiddo's ideas aren't even new Yeah, greatest men alive. Made of free money and science-fiction.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 19:29:11 2019 No.11205572 not sure, but I do know he's a massive piece of shit. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-03-13/when-elon-musk-tried-to-destroy-tesla-whistleblower-martin-tripp

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 19:40:31 2019 No.11205599 He is a hack. I am actually a scientist, albeit a shitty one and I can tell this fuckers a hack. I'm community college grade and Elon is below me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 19:52:49 2019 No.11205636 >>11200949 Ah but you can't do shit without money either, can you?. You think all scientific progress come for free? Commie Retard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 21:22:15 2019 No.11205795 >>11204570 Boeing, and every other space company also got government funding and couldn't do what SpaceX has.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 6 22:30:20 2019 No.11205900 >>11203649 >so we tried again and the economy collapsed so it wasn't real socialism so we tried again and the economy collapsed so it wasn't real socialism so we tried again

Anonymous Sat Dec 7 00:43:00 2019 No.11206153

>>11200804
He was responsible for most of the technical management and development of Paypal originally iirc, and works heavily with the Tesla and SpaceX engineering teams. I wouldn't bet on him truly being the most gifted or most valuable engineer on any of his teams, but I think it's undeniable that he's had a great impact on the development and innovation in his companies, not just from a managerial perspective.

Anonymous Sat Dec 7 00:46:50 2019 No.11206163

>>11201877
I think he'll be at Bill Gates level from SpaceX and the futures increase on space innovation and funding as curiosity of the vast unknown and possible improvements in that sector (not to mention the possible militaristic benefits of space funding). Boring company could suceed amazingly, but I'm not sure it'll be more profitable, or even generate as much revenue as SpaceX or Tesla as it fully depends on government spending on infrastructure, which I'm not certain will be implemented as soon as it's needed.

Anonymous Sat Dec 7 00:56:24 2019 No.11206176

>>11203667
very good point regarding the 70 years of personal vehicle dominated cities, all the old futuristic movies and shit have us flying in the sky and driving flying cars, but I think it's more realistic that we have enormous networks of public transport tunnels and hyperloops to travel in. in the next 70 years on the side of every street there will be booths for high speed tunnel transport, rather than vast road arrays.
I think the next transportation innovation though will be when we build so many tunnels the ground becomes unstable and sinkholes, and other disasters start happening due to the overdevelopment of our foundation

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 05:37:43 2019 No.11206597 >>11205354 Holy based.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 09:33:59 2019 No.11206965 Lol Unsworth lost the lawsuit. Get fucked faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 09:59:05 2019 No.11207016 >>11205599 imagine being this delusional. Elon is 100% a legit genius.

Anonymous Sat Dec 7 10:08:00 2019 No.11207036
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>>11202127
Just as dick riders should be adored for their absolute faith. Rejoice! For every steaming pile they step on shall be crammed down your throat - Ad nauseam? No chance, embrace their tutelage. They are the clergy of our wicked times, ever right and never wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 10:25:55 2019 No.11207062 >>11204570 That's true. Agreed, Musk is a hack that cons the government into giving him funding for him to play with rockets then once he's bored, launches payloads to ISS as per contract. What a hack.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 10:27:19 2019 No.11207064 >>11200774 >He's like Donald Trump in many ways. No he is not.

Anonymous Sat Dec 7 13:11:24 2019 No.11207376
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>make 300-mile-long vacuum tube through California
>costs $10's of billions and literal months to make the whole thing a vacuum
>niggers shoot at each other
>stray bullet hits tube
>CRUNCH
>billions of dollars, years of work, dozens of lives all gone

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 13:48:11 2019 No.11207460 >>11207064 They're both men.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 13:58:38 2019 No.11207472 >>11207376 Agree about the niggers but that's not how 1 atmosphere of pressure works.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 14:32:17 2019 No.11207522 File: 79 KB, 828x947, 0DE0CF89F47C4714A2F6BD46D9678F75.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11200771 he won his pedo court case which means he's set a precedent that btfos anti free speech retards on social media.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 17:01:40 2019 No.11207824 The only based billionaire. Simply, he's an agent for good more than evil. >>11200771 You're mostly right, but do not fall into that trap of >everything I don't like is socialism!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 17:17:41 2019 No.11207858 >>11200739 >>11202228 >Thomas Edison BAD Go back to your oatmeal fake-history comics, retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 17:19:01 2019 No.11207863 >>11202228 >>11203484 >>11204394 idiot http://edison.rutgers.edu/topsy.htm

Anonymous Sat Dec 7 17:23:52 2019 No.11207878

>>11203649
Venezuelan expat here. You're full of shit.
>huge anti-capitalist and pro-socialist rhetoric from the government
>expropriations and asset seizures left and right
>nationalization of key companies
>punitive fines against companies to fill government coffers
>currency controls
>price ceilings
>insane money-printing because fuck economics

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 17:28:24 2019 No.11207892 >>11203649 >nuh-uh it wusnt socialism if it didnt work out like clockwork

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 19:49:56 2019 No.11208218 >>11202089 the fuck are you even doing here, anon?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 04:09:12 2019 No.11209078 >>11208218 >Hurr Durr 4ch*n is a lawless world filled with indecent evil people.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 04:14:13 2019 No.11209090 >>11200779 Yes. He was in an energy physics PhD program at Stanford before dropping out to start his first business.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 04:15:47 2019 No.11209092 >>11200774 He was a millionaire before he even started started paypal. Paypal also wasn't fluke, rather a deliberate attempt to revolutionize financial transactions

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 08:24:19 2019 No.11209471 File: 17 KB, 510x320, bro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11207376 >shoots bullet in building >CRUUUUUNCH >billions of dollars, years of work, dozens of lives all gone

Anonymous Sun Dec 8 08:44:37 2019 No.11209492
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>parents steal an emerald mine
>buys the rights to call himself a "founder" of tesla
>rich boi
i don't think anyone gets past the 10 million mark on their own, but this guy is at least doing decent things with the opportunity
he's like every other billionaire but actually interested in science fiction rather than LMAO MORE GREEN PAPER

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 08:51:50 2019 No.11209498 File: 45 KB, 500x500, 51V9xb8aWhL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11206176 we'll eventually return to a running/biking species with possible air travel

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 08:51:53 2019 No.11209499 File: 23 KB, 480x360, hqdefault (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is he Weyland in disguise?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 08:53:40 2019 No.11209504 >>11207878 State capitalism.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 08:54:53 2019 No.11209509 File: 81 KB, 719x540, .2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11202089 GET THE FUCK OUT NOW

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 08:56:18 2019 No.11209512 >>11207878 The only reason Venezuela has ever mattered is because of oil. Without oil, Venezuela is yet another tin-pot little South-American Tropical Country and nothing will change that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 09:16:04 2019 No.11209547 >>11205466 If you look at him not as at an inventor, but as at a businessman, he's truly great (and we need both types of people in this game)

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 09:25:20 2019 No.11209565 >>11209504 By that definition, socialism never existed.

Anonymous Sun Dec 8 09:34:09 2019 No.11209581

The distinction between modern industrial capitalism and social democracy is minimal. Leaving aside socialist fantasies about the abolition of greed or capitalist fantasies in which a state will expect nothing from its citizens, the two systems have more or less merged. Capitalists and socialists accept private investment. Both expect economies to grow and from that growth they will pay taxes. In both Sweden and the United States, taxes are hated by the public, but the benefits are loved. Still, the political system decides the taxes and the politicians do what they were meant to do in a democracy – pander to the public. What may differentiate one politician from the next is the amount of taxation they propose, but even that is used to balance the system.

Anonymous Sun Dec 8 09:34:51 2019 No.11209582

>>11202089
>, why would you want to "trigger" someone, isnt there enough negative emotions in the world without intentionally causing it? Seems almost inhumane, unnatural to seek that out, definitely cant be healthy mentally
All shitposters crave the attention they were denied as children. They should never be replied to, as it encourages their faggotry.

Anonymous Sun Dec 8 09:37:28 2019 No.11209588

>>11209581

In Capitalism, investment is not centralized. Investment capital comes from many sources, and there are countless investors making decisions. The diversification of capital limits the consequences of any single decision. It makes capitalism vulnerable to cycles and fads, but devastation is not the same as annihilation. It can and (and regularly does) recover from devastation. But the emphasis is on what the investment process can recover from, not the havoc that the devastation might cause to the public.

Socialism places confidence in the state, and control of the state in the hands of the public. The public as a whole has an understanding of what it needs but is not sensitive to the price paid. The state, then, must either abide by the will of the many or make investment decisions regardless of the public will, but for the good of the public (or at least what the state regards as their good). Since the state is an abstraction, the decisions are actually made by state officials. Given the vastness of the decisions made by the state, it must devolve to an army of civil servants who individually hold minimal power, but who collectively would take the place of investors, unbound by the demand of self-interest.

Anonymous Sun Dec 8 09:38:30 2019 No.11209591

>>11209588

Democratic socialism cannot be democratic because of the scope and scale of modern economies. It either evolves in a Soviet direction, to name one extreme, or, as in oft-cited Sweden, leaves most investment decisions to private investors, taxing them and transferring money to the rest of society. In the Soviet model, the state tries to manage mid-level civil servants by terrifying them with death. In the Swedish model, the battle is formed by demands of increasing social benefits and decreasing investment capital.

Under capitalism, the diversification of capital sources protects against bad decisions made by centralized governments. But it must, by its nature, create inequality and occasional social crisis. The flow of money into the hands of the investor class must generate crises as industries are shut down and as new ones are created. The speed of what Joseph Schumpeter called “creative destruction” generates rapid and intense crises that can turn just as rapidly into social unrest, chaos or repression. Capitalism has generally solved this in the same way that social democracy has: It has left investment to private investors and then imposed taxes on them to cushion social dislocation.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 10:04:26 2019 No.11209633 >>11209565 socialism is the synonym to state capitalism (at least according to lenin)

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 10:29:53 2019 No.11209687 >>11200733 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 13:46:46 2019 No.11210116 He seems more like a geek than a nerd.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 14:02:21 2019 No.11210150 He's a businessman, not a scientist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 14:05:55 2019 No.11210158 >>11200771 You're right

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 16:08:42 2019 No.11210445 >>11210150 His brother Kimbel has handled most of the business side of things. Elon is a programmer and engineer.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 18:31:34 2019 No.11210762 >>11200724 hack

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 18:38:23 2019 No.11210782 >>11210116 what?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 18:57:37 2019 No.11210824 >>11210782 He cares more about star wars and anime than science.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 19:52:00 2019 No.11210961 >>11201850 >the guy is a joke >i'm not saying he is not smart Kys, retard

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 19:59:25 2019 No.11210971 Inbetween

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 00:32:33 2019 No.11211580

>>11200779
>Is he smart technically, though?
Yes. He's well educated and you don't have the kind of success he's had without knowing the science behind what you're doing. What he isn't is a specialist. He researches and understands the topics he gets in to, but only in so much that he can effectively hire and manage people who do know exactly what they are doing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 00:34:21 2019 No.11211585 >>11200801 Neuralink is a research company right now and Hyperloop isn't his company. Hyperloop was an idea he literally made a shitpost out of one day and released into the public domain for other people to do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 00:44:27 2019 No.11211607 >>11202045 He is not in any way like Da Vinci

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 00:44:34 2019 No.11211608 File: 439 KB, 1437x808, 2534841579888.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11200724 Neither, he's based.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 00:45:40 2019 No.11211611
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>>11211585
>>11200801
Neuralink is really cool, they are embedding 96 fibers with many electrodes each into the brain for a total of 3072 electrodes. Each thread is on the order of microns in diameter and can be precision placed in the brain. The board itself connects with a USB C port to your computer and feeds you all the data. They built and entire robot to place these electrodes, and so far they’ve embedded the device on mice. You can look up their preprint from July if you want to read more:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2019/07/18/703801.full.pdf

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 00:48:12 2019 No.11211617 >>11211611 okay but can you remove it without leaving anything behind if not it should be illegal

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 01:50:12 2019 No.11211689
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>>11211617
I’d have to read more carefully but I assume so, the electrode fibers aren’t particularly bent, you could pull them out the same way you put them in without causing damage. I wouldn’t trust it unless so could compile the code myself and confirm the electronics aren’t creating signals in my head. It’s not really for general use though, it’s more for researching particular brain functions and disabilities

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 01:56:51 2019 No.11211694

>>11200724
Insofar as he is a visionary, he's legit. I wouldn't say he's the smartest guy on the planet or any kind of genius inventor, just someone who cares about electric cars and space and has the cash to drive his ambitions forward. He was a pretty good software engineer from my understanding.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 04:20:14 2019 No.11211953 >>11210824 That explains his B.S. in Physics from UPenn

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 04:24:24 2019 No.11211965 >>11203647 >but if you don't count all the money he gets paid by his customers, he doesn't make money!

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