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Hey nerds, /sp/ tourist here can you please tell me if zero is an odd or an even number or if it's the absence of value therefore neither?
Cheers doods, love you x

 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 22:06:23 2019 No.11194778 not a number you gimp
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 22:06:31 2019 No.11194779 >>11194774based. we really need to know guys. we're idiots.
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 22:07:15 2019 No.11194780 >>11194774It’s not a number, so it is niether even or odd.
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 22:07:58 2019 No.11194783 File: 28 KB, 411x225, E38B4293-17EF-4128-9A10-D6EE0DA57D49.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report] >>11194778Thank you for confirming my suspicions everyone on /sp/ is retarded except me
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 22:09:14 2019 No.11194784 >>111947740=2
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 22:09:38 2019 No.11194785 >>11194780This is so wrong.
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 22:18:50 2019 No.11194791 >>111947740 is even, an even number has odd numbers on both sides of it on the number line. 0 has -1 on the left and 1 on the right. both odd numbers. QED 0 is even
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 22:34:41 2019 No.11194816 Even number
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 22:35:11 2019 No.11194817 >>11194774even because it's divisible by 2
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 22:36:11 2019 No.11194820 >>11194774zero is a concept it does not exist
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 22:38:45 2019 No.11194826 >>11194778>>11194780>>11194783Literal retards, 0 is even.
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 22:39:02 2019 No.11194828 >>11194785wrong you want to know why zero is a circle? A circle represents the whole, the "beginning" and "end", except there is a no way to find out where the beginning and end is on a circle because there isn't one, it is an infinite cycle
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 22:40:05 2019 No.11194830 >>11194826Literal retard zero doesn't exist you fucking donkey
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 22:42:15 2019 No.11194834 >>11194830Yeah. Like you’ve got zero testosterone.
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 22:43:27 2019 No.11194836 Get the fuck out tourists. You dont know shit about anything. Leave.
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 22:43:34 2019 No.11194837 >>11194834like you get zero pussy
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 22:47:51 2019 No.11194843 >>11194837>Letting women define your value system
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 22:48:59 2019 No.11194845 >>11194843>doesn't even know zero doesn't exist>opinion on everything discarded as having no merit as it comes from the mind of a simpleton
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 23:06:22 2019 No.11194869 It’s impossible for zero to be even or odd just because of the idea of zero. Even or odd is all about dividing by two, but you can’t really divide zero conceptually. Algebraicly you get zero, but it’s impossible to split nothing into different groups of nothing. You just get zero, more nothing.
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 23:06:39 2019 No.11194870 >>11194836why do you think we're fucking asking here, salty faggot?
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 23:11:47 2019 No.11194878 >>11194870go back to cte land
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 23:14:25 2019 No.11194888 Numbers are used to count things and this is impossible without a signifier for 0, either for an absence of anything or to make multiples of 10.It's weird because it's the opposite end of infinity.Only autists don't regard it as a number (yes your math teacher is likely an autist)
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 23:19:36 2019 No.11194903 >>11194888A number represents value, there is no such value as zero in this reality, you only perceive an absence of value from a materialist standpoint because you can have "zero" computers, or zero apples. But what is a computer made of? Steel, gold, silicone, etc etc when you destroy the computer those things are not gone, only what you made out of them, you didn't make a zero value out of it because that is impossible, first law of thermodynamics you didn't destroy it you only transformed it. Everything in this reality is made from the aether, there is never "zero" aether it can only be transformed into other objects you perceive as matter in the 3rd dimension. Only a materialist fool thinks zero is a number and not a material concept for convenience in accounting.
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 23:43:03 2019 No.11194937 If zero is nether positive nor negative, then how could you expect it to be even or odd?
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 23:43:24 2019 No.11194939 >>11194903So zero is neither odd nor even?
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 23:44:55 2019 No.11194942 >>11194903>implying numbers other than zero are anything more than materialist concepts as well
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 23:45:21 2019 No.11194945 >>11194939No because it It doesn't exist, it can only appear to exist conceptually, it is not a real value outside of human perception
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 23:46:23 2019 No.11194947 >>11194942>not understanding what value is after it was explained in detail Stop eating crayons
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 23:47:34 2019 No.11194950 >>11194945That means /sp/ was right, I think.
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 23:49:06 2019 No.11194952 >>11194945Well I take that back, it doesn't need human perception, it only needs 3 dimensions and the perception of something in that dimension to appear to exist.
 >> Anonymous Mon Dec 2 23:51:56 2019 No.11194959 the tldr is [first law of thermodynamics + (E=mc2} = no such thing as zero]
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 00:32:22 2019 No.11195017 >>11194903>>11194945> he thinks numbers exist
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 00:41:47 2019 No.11195030 >>11195017I said numbers represent value, value exists you absolute mong incapable of reading compression on an elementary level
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 07:31:41 2019 No.11195583 >>11194774Most people in this thread are wrong.An even number is a number which can be written as 2*n where n is an integer. An odd number is likewise a number which can be written as 2*n-1 where n is an integer.2*0 = 0, and 0 is an integer, therefore it is even.Let us see if it is odd as well:2n-1 = 02n = 1n = 1/21/2 is NOT an integer, therefore the number 0 is strictly even.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 07:43:35 2019 No.11195598 >>11195583hey idiot try and refute this then >>11194959pro tip: you can't jack ass
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 08:01:17 2019 No.11195612 >>11195583Based and retarded
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 13:43:05 2019 No.11196190 File: 2.66 MB, 1280x2104, NoZero.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report] >>11195598>>11194959samefag here with a diagram for the simpletons
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 13:44:21 2019 No.11196192 Even numbers are defined by the generating function of ${2x:x\in \mathbb{Z}\}$
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 13:45:49 2019 No.11196195 >>11196192Missed a backslash$\{2x:x\in \mathbb{Z}\}$
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 13:54:01 2019 No.11196214 File: 9 KB, 216x144, 0≠0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report] >>11194820>zero is a concept it does not existNeither does one. Neither does any number. For example:>>11196190How many mountains in this picture? How many waters?
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 13:58:23 2019 No.11196224 You have a herd of 20 sheep. You sell 10, you now have 10 sheep. 9 of your remaining sheep are killed by wolves, you now have only 1 sheep. This sheep dies of old age, how many sheep do you have?The idea that 0 isn't a number is parroted by pseuds who literally don't think about it at even a surface level.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:02:38 2019 No.11196231 File: 68 KB, 1179x815, Vortex-Based-Mathematics.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report] >>11196214>Neither does one. wrong>Neither does any number. For example:Well you bring up an interesting point since the all is "1" then one is the only real number in a way from the ultimate perspective, but that one can be and has been subsided infinite times so ultimately this is a psued argument. There are only 9 numbers that can be combined into infinite fractals
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:03:58 2019 No.11196234 >>11196224>The idea that 0 isn't a number is parroted by pseuds who literally don't think about it at even a surface level.Says the psued that loves to "hear" himself speak but too dumb to listen to others "speak" (ie read the thread first). You have been proven wrong conclusively psued
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:05:40 2019 No.11196241 >>11196234All I've seen is low IQ shitflinging, the only people making points agree with me. Go back to watching niggers kick balloons or whatever it is you retards do.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:06:26 2019 No.11196243 >>11196231>"1" then one is the only real numberIt's not real, it's a+bi
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:06:55 2019 No.11196245 thread stinks of highschoolers trying to sound smart. christ this board really is for the dogs these days.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:07:36 2019 No.11196247 >>11196245this
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:08:31 2019 No.11196250 >>11194845>zero doesn’t exist>is perfectly capable of typing it out on his keyboard
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:09:31 2019 No.11196255 >>11196241>All I've seen is low IQ shitflinging>other ape tier droolers agree with me who cares you have proven me wrong conclusively I can't understand it therefore I will just pretend like it doesn't matter Because you are too stupid to understand anything above your psued simple perspctive
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:09:47 2019 No.11196256 >>11196231Zero is a number and it is even. Any other answer is psudo-intellectual crap from people who want to waste time rather than doing anything useful.Also, 0≠0>>11196231All numbers are ideas that exist in the human mind. They are useful tools, but should not be seen as an end in and of themselves.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:10:33 2019 No.11196259 >>11196250You win stupidest post of the thread award congratulations. Anime is also real because your favorite hentai artist drew it, imbecile
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:11:07 2019 No.11196262 >>11196255This post is so ironic it's ferromegnetic
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:12:16 2019 No.11196265 >>11196256Sorry I have proven zero doesn't exist beyond any doubt I won't argue with you. Also shapes and distances exist which are values and I already covered this.Reread the thread and take the time try to understand it or don't w/e
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:13:25 2019 No.11196270 >>11194869> it is all about dividing by two, but you can’t really divide 1.1 conceptually. Algebraicly you get 0.55, but it’s impossible to split 1.1 into different elements of the Rationals. You just get 0.55 more element of the Rationals.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:13:26 2019 No.11196271
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:14:02 2019 No.11196273 >>11196259You win dumbest newfag for not spotting bait
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:14:26 2019 No.11196275
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:15:02 2019 No.11196277 Zero is a number and it's real, it's the number of times OP has had sex
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:15:41 2019 No.11196278 >>11196265>Sorry I have proven zero doesn't existYou don't know what "proof" means. Just being stubborn isn't proof.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:17:09 2019 No.11196282 >>11196278Just because you are not knowledgeable or smart enough to understand something doesn't mean it wasn't proven you wet brained donkey. Why are you on this board you trying to infect people with your stupidity?
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:17:14 2019 No.11196283 File: 199 KB, 1000x1000, 1552739102025.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report] By definition, zero is a real number because it's a member of the reals.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:18:26 2019 No.11196288 >>11196282What is one minus one?
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:18:36 2019 No.11196290 When anyone in this thread can refute this>>11194959>>11196190Then post your proofs, til then stfu you hacks
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:19:10 2019 No.11196294 >>11194947>explained in detail>absence of things doesn’t exist in realityare you retarded dude? does the number pi not exist because you don’t see pi apples right in front of you?Besides, the absence of stuff is very real. An Eigenstate of a particle has literally 0 probability density of other states. They are really not there thus 0.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:20:06 2019 No.11196295 >>11196294>EigenstateDo you really expect this retard to understand that? He's just going to use the fact that he doesn't know what that is as some kind of refutation
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:20:13 2019 No.11196296 >>11195030if values exist then the value 0 does aswell
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:21:16 2019 No.11196299 >>11196295i have 0 pieces of chocolate in my mouth. it’s sad but true.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:21:57 2019 No.11196302 File: 12 KB, 300x259, bushfag.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report] >>11196294>>11196290>>11196295Waiting .... you will never refute this because you can't because you are no smart enough to even understand it not to mention it is conclusive which you are also not smart enough to understand
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:23:29 2019 No.11196303 The thing about /sp/ is that they're all so retarded it's impossible to distinguish masterful shitposting from actual idiocy, and this thread is an excellent case study of this phenomenon.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:26:19 2019 No.11196309 >>11196302if zero can't exist then I do have money right? Because the absence of it clearly is not possible.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:28:35 2019 No.11196314 >>11196309Waiting ....
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:29:43 2019 No.11196315 >>11194959first law of td states temperature and thermal equilibrium exists. Irrellevant for the existence of 0.e=mc^2 is first of all incomplete, and if I measure vacuum with no particle, what is its rest mass?
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:31:07 2019 No.11196318 >>11196314yes you have atleast one dollar, cool fact really
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:31:31 2019 No.11196319 File: 1.16 MB, 316x200, joker2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:33:06 2019 No.11196326 >>11196315got my thermodynamic laws confused. 2nd point is still valid
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:35:10 2019 No.11196330 >>11196315Let me explain i really simple for the cheap seats (though I already have in detail as well in this thread) since even a diagram for children couldn't work for you.The first law of thermodynamics states energy never ceases to exist it inly changes form. Since all matter is energy (e=mc2) then that mans the matter is never gone, there is never a zero value in this reality because we are in closed system where the energy simply transforms into other things it is never "gone" never at a "zero" value, it can't be, it is impossible child. Therefore zero is only a concept that is useful in the illusory "reality" you perceive, it is not real, it can't be, it is only a CONCEPT. The lesson is over child, go do your homework now and stop arguing about things you cannot understand
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:42:02 2019 No.11196336 >>11196330>The first law of thermodynamics states energy never ceases to exist it inly changes form.It DOESN'T say that energy has to be evenly distributed. That the universe as a whole has mass does not mean that parts of it can't be empty. The vacuum exists. Also, zero as a difference between two energy states is the GOAL of thermodynamics - heat tends towards equilibrium. In an electrical circuit, if both sides have the same voltage potential, then no power will flow. Zero equals equality.And finally, I asked this before and you ignored it: What is one minus one. If this question takes you paragraphs to explain, that doesn't mean that you are smart.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:42:58 2019 No.11196338 This is a really pedantic point but time symmetry breaks down over long periods so energy conservation isn't absolute
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:43:06 2019 No.11196339 What is one minus one?Being unable to answer this does not make you smart.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 14:43:25 2019 No.11196340 File: 18 KB, 480x360, texan2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report] >>11196336bye simpleton
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 15:00:27 2019 No.11196367 >>11196338>a law isn't absolute>it is called law specifically because it is absolutespotted the psued
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 15:05:17 2019 No.11196375 >>11196367It was considered a law, and over any practical length of time it can be thought to be absolute, but it's not actually absolute.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 15:06:18 2019 No.11196378 >>11196340> Responds to argument with nothing but name calling.This is the closest you'll get to an admission of defeat on 4chan.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 15:14:58 2019 No.11196388 >>11196378don’t call it admission of defeat, if you you can’t defend your standpoint, your intuition was wrong and you learned something.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 15:18:48 2019 No.11196395 >>11196338>time symmetry breaks down over long periodsoff topic, so sagebut how/why?I get the time symmetry is not valid if the universal constants change over time, but are there measurements for that or is there another mechanism?
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 15:21:17 2019 No.11196396 >>11196395Explaining it is genuinely beyond my understanding at this point, but it has to do with inflation IIRC.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 15:45:50 2019 No.11196433 >>11194774Questions like this are stupid because the answer just depends on how you define "even" and also how you define "zero". You can construct mathematical systems that say zero is even or zero is undefined. It doesn't matter as long as you are consistent. It's just semantic pedantry, not an actual mathematical question
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 16:00:52 2019 No.11196468 File: 16 KB, 705x249, brainlets.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report] >>11194780>>11194783>>11194820>>11194828>>11194830>>11194845>>11194869>>11194888>>11194903>>11194945>>11194952>>11196231>>11196234Fuck all of you insolent children. Learn some math. Oh, and get the fuck off my board.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 16:23:52 2019 No.11196530 >>11196231>vortex ”””””math”””””>>>/x/
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 16:32:58 2019 No.11196546 File: 40 KB, 501x431, structure.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report] >>11196468>look at this hypothetical used in the 3rd dimension because he doesn't have the knowledge or intellect to understand things from a higher perspective more abstract than his tiny mind can process>Still no one who can ever refute this >>11196190Nah you get off my board you ape tier hack
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 16:38:19 2019 No.11196560 >>11196468Let me make it so simple any mentally retarded imbecile off the street can understand. When you can post proof that you find a way to destroy energy you come back to this thread and let us all know, then I will stop calling you and the rest of these donkeys imbeciles. Because then you will have proven you can actually have a zero value.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 16:46:51 2019 No.11196574 >>11196468I'll even make it MORE simple for you dummies. Show me one time ANYTHING ever came form nothing. Are you seriously putting forth the idea that "something" can ever come "nothing". Because if you are, you are stupider than I thought as you can't even use elementary logic.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 17:01:26 2019 No.11196618 File: 34 KB, 769x733, 1560924243814.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report] >this thread
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 17:02:32 2019 No.11196620 >>11194774assuming you are actually interested in the answer here's an argument for you. we say a number n is even if it had the form 2k = n when k is an integer. However it will help if we generalize the the term "even" to properly agree with our intention of the term. Now we can generalize this and say a similar statement about numbers realating to 3 or 5 or 7... etc. letting p be a prime number you can say a number is "even" with respect to p if there exists some k such that pk = n. if you allow k to include 0 then for any p there exists a k such that n is 0. this statments since when k = 0 then for any p we have p0 = 0. in this sense 0 is "even" with respect to 2 but also "even" with respect to any number.>>11194774
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 17:04:05 2019 No.11196623 File: 633 KB, 800x900, SomethingFromNothing.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 17:17:56 2019 No.11196652 File: 415 KB, 220x217, laughing.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report] >>11196623anon wins, get off his board psueds
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 17:22:41 2019 No.11196662 >>11196623Based potato
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:01:32 2019 No.11196773 >>11196618It's four plus the empty set, I thought you'd know this
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:07:01 2019 No.11196798 LSU /_ GEAUX TIGERS BAW
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:10:10 2019 No.11196808 0 has yet to be formally defined in mathematics. We take it for granted because it makes our equations work.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:10:27 2019 No.11196810 >>11196245lol
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:11:14 2019 No.11196816 >>11196808This post sounds like it was written by a college kid who passed his calc 1 class with a B+ and thinks he's hot shit. You are absolutely wrong and to make it worse you're arrogant.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:12:24 2019 No.11196820 >not being exclusively interested in a function's behavior on [0,1]
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:13:26 2019 No.11196821 >>11196816you sound like you're being trolled
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:13:48 2019 No.11196824 0 = virginity it's there but you can't do anything with it
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:14:07 2019 No.11196825 >>11196821I can't even tell anymore on this site man
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:14:11 2019 No.11196826 >>11196468Autism
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:15:22 2019 No.11196828 File: 31 KB, 225x225, Snowpants.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report] If zero ain't a number how come I get zero pussy?
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:16:02 2019 No.11196831 File: 626 KB, 1773x1773, 1555871611189.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report] If 0 is real why can't I divide by it? Checkmate atheists.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:17:17 2019 No.11196834 >>11196825just assume you are
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:20:33 2019 No.11196845 >>11194774even. if an odd number is defined by an integer, n, such that 2n+1 is odd, then does there exist an integer n such that 2n+1 = 0?NO. the only real number that is sufficient is -1/2 a rational number. thus 0, which is divisible by 2, is even. probably. I dunno, I'll asl your mom tonight when I fuck her with my cock. I'm literally e^x in that bitch. >>11196468based pianist.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:21:50 2019 No.11196847 File: 1.34 MB, 498x278, tenor.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report] >>11196808NIHIGGGA i'll fuck your mom
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:22:50 2019 No.11196852 File: 15 KB, 292x249, 2E27405F-2644-47FD-9BA8-7C0FBC880712.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report] >>11196831What does the word number... even mean?
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:25:05 2019 No.11196862 >>11196852a mathematical object
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:28:27 2019 No.11196870 >>11196862How do we market the word to the ignorant masses?
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:31:25 2019 No.11196883 >>11196870fuck you and your greasy fucking hands. I will not have a pop sci invasion of mathematics, god dammit. bad enough engineers think they are masters at math because they read GEB and took calc 3 in college. Math doesn't and shouldn't exit its pure state EVER.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:32:53 2019 No.11196890 File: 347 KB, 623x351, panther.pdf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report] even and odd numbers alternate, and 0 is divisible by 2 to produce an integer. Its even
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:33:30 2019 No.11196893 >>11196883based autistmy mom was thinking out loud in numbers over thanksgiving it almost gave me a heart attack
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:34:39 2019 No.11196897 what's the most complicated phenomenon that hinges on the evenness of 0?
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:35:46 2019 No.11196901 >>11196890if the real numbers doesn't include a number that is both even and odd at the same time doesn't that mean it has a hole?>>11196897your mom
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:35:51 2019 No.11196903 File: 494 KB, 387x305, pepeWizard4.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report] >>11196883uWu salty desu
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:38:12 2019 No.11196913 >>11196901>the real numbers doesn't include a number that is both even and odd at the same time doesn't that mean it has a hole?by what principle?
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 18:55:53 2019 No.11196980 In theory zero is even. But in practical reality it isn’t even or odd.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 19:34:02 2019 No.11197066 >>11196980>But in practical reality it isn’t even or odd.If zero wasn't even, then math wouldn't work. In actual, mathematical reality, zero is both even and odd at the same time. In fact it is both the most odd and the most even number, just like how it's the most rational number.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 19:37:04 2019 No.11197076 File: 1.64 MB, 300x300, 9code.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 19:53:46 2019 No.11197122 >>11197076Wrong board. Numerology belongs on >>>/x/.>inb4 something about Tesla, Rodin coils, and free energy.
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 20:04:36 2019 No.11197143 >>11196620thanks anon
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 20:05:55 2019 No.11197148 >>11197122>being too much a brainlet to understand simple maththis is the code to the entire matrix you pompous hack fool
 >> Anonymous Tue Dec 3 22:48:05 2019 No.11197569 >>11197148it's just addition
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 00:28:14 2019 No.11197831 >>11194820>zero is a concept it does not existIt is a number (counting up or down from it; doing math operations which result in it)It is a concept (in computer science zero represents 'false', non-zero 'true'; it's one or the other; there is no 'maybe'...)
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 00:30:48 2019 No.11197836 >>11197569And yet you can't understand it.
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 00:34:14 2019 No.11197843   >>11194945>No because it It doesn't exist...You're confusing 'null' with zero. They are mutually exclusive.
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 00:42:23 2019 No.11197858 >>11196831>If 0 is real why can't I divide by it?Because you flunked 1st grade math, muh niggah.
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 00:46:08 2019 No.11197863 >>11194945>No because it It doesn't exist...You're confusing zero with 'null.' They are mutually exclusive.
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 01:21:47 2019 No.11197916 I think people are forgetting it’s just your opinion. Zero could be even, odd, both, or neither. There isn’t one right answer.
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 01:28:26 2019 No.11197928 >>11196468>Zero is even because Peano says so!How very unscientific of you.
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 01:43:47 2019 No.11197951 >>111947740 is even and it's pretty easy to understand why.Take any integer and stack up that many pancakes into two stacks, alternating stacks for each pancake. So, left, right, left, right, left, right, etc.If you run out of pancakes and your stacks are the same height, you had an even number of pancakes.If you run out and one stack is one pancake higher than the other, the initial number of pancakes was odd.If you run out and one stack is a fractional number of pancakes higher than the other, you didn't have an integer number of pancakes to begin with.If you run out of pancakes and wind up with any other scenario, i.e. one stack is two or more pancakes higher than the other or you have more than two stacks, then you did it wrong, try again dumbass.If you don't run out of pancakes, then your number is the cardinality of an infinite set, and therefore not actually a number.If you run out of pancakes and your stacks are the same height, but they're not the same width (or they are the same width but they're wider than when you started) then you forgot to cook your batter.Now try this with the integer 0. That is, start with 0 pancakes.You've now run out of pancakes before you've even begun sorting them into stacks.Compare the height of your two empty stacks of pancakes.Since they're both empty, they're the same height (empty).Therefore, 0 is even, QED.
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 01:44:25 2019 No.11197952 ZERO IS NOT A NUMBER AND NEITHER IS ONE
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 03:03:47 2019 No.11198047 File: 195 KB, 890x670, FoCpG.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 03:45:57 2019 No.11198096 >>11194774hhmm
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 03:49:48 2019 No.11198097 Thanks for convincing me it's time to leave this board.
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 04:18:39 2019 No.11198120 >>11197928math isn't a science, it's its own group from philosophy. The "scientific method" generally isn't relevant. Say what you want to, but prove it is how mathematicians go. Axioms are the basis of the structure of a mathematical universe, they are required to be true. >HUUUR DDUUURR MATH IS JSUT DOGMATIC BULLSHIT AND MADE UP. IT'S NOT EVEN REAL>now let me use it, inappropriately, in my own dogmatic way to generate shitty models and then blame math when it goes wrong. >HUURR DURR APPLICATION ISN'T DOGMATIC I SWEAR>hurr durr i ama science boy but don't understand philosophy or what science even means. >philosophy is GGGAAYAYA
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 07:44:37 2019 No.11198346 >>11196623if nothing != something then it is elementary logic that something != nothing as anon said, are there people on this board that honestly can't understand this
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 07:55:15 2019 No.11198363 >>11198120math is also an abstract concept and not always applicable to reality, you can lie with number just as you can with words.I know you thought you were clever with your post but you weren't you just showed how ignorant you are once again.“Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality.” - Nikola Tesla
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 08:44:16 2019 No.11198435 >>11197863uh no anon good boy points for CS weigh in though
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 08:45:28 2019 No.11198437 >>11197831none of this is relevant to this conversation anon
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 09:51:35 2019 No.11198560 >>11198435>uh no anon...My, what a convincing counterargument! Thank you for demonstrating your expertise and sharing your in-depth knowledge of the subject. I'm sure everyone has benefited.
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 10:05:38 2019 No.11198580   >>11198437>none of this is relevant...Sure. None of it is relevant to the strange reality YOU live in. But, then again, few geniuses are recognized in their time, am I right? Certainly, you fall into this category. Yes, I'm certain of it. Nonetheless, the denizens of /sci/ thank you for bestowing your brilliance in the matter. Certainly, all mathematicians will benefit from this astounding discovery, and your unrivaled lucidity in communicating it will not go unrecognized...
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 10:07:37 2019 No.11198587 >>11198437>none of this is relevant...Sure. None of it is relevant to the strange reality YOU live in. But, then again, few geniuses are recognized in their time, am I right? Certainly, you fall into this category. Yes, I'm certain of it.Nonetheless, the denizens of /sci/ thank you for bestowing your brilliance in the matter. Certainly, all mathematicians will benefit from this astounding discovery, and your unrivaled lucidity in communicating it will not go unnoticed...
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 10:10:32 2019 No.11198591 >>11198047Based and CS pilled
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 10:34:08 2019 No.11198628 >>11197952>ZERO IS NOT A NUMBER AND NEITHER IS ONEDon't tell me... and the Earth is flat, too?
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 10:57:11 2019 No.11198656 >>11198047Whoever wrote this must be new to programming.1. Code does not define a RANGE of values to be entered, then tests and flags if number is outside of said range (i.e. "Enter an integer between 0 and 100:").2. Code makes assumption that zero is even from the outset. There is no algorithm performing a test. Instead, it is a long, awkward 'if' statement. You're not showing off. You're showing us you don't know what you're doing yet...
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 10:57:12 2019 No.11198657 >>11198560>Thank you for demonstrating your expertise and sharing your in-depth knowledge of the subject.Yah I did anon I am the poster in this thread that actually knows what they are talking about and posted all the evidence unlike you. >>11198587butthurt cope, indeed I did do those things, I gave the equation none of you understood that was obvious once you do and none of you can ever "solve" because there is no solution because there is no such value period. Stay mad psued
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 11:02:48 2019 No.11198664   >>11198657You're just some antagonist little twit looking to stir up some nonsensical shit for your own amusement. So, what happened? Teacher gave you a zero on your last math test and you're trying to argue that zeroes don't exist?GTFO, loser...
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 11:04:48 2019 No.11198666 >>11198657You're just some antagonistic little twit looking to stir up some nonsensical shit for your own amusement.So, what happened? Teacher gave you a zero on your last math test and you're trying to argue that zeroes don't exist?GTFO, loser...
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 11:06:43 2019 No.11198672 >>11198666seething brainlet cope, salty desu yummy
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 11:11:58 2019 No.11198680 >>11198591>Based and CS pilledKek. Hardly...
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 11:26:02 2019 No.11198697 >>11196275>Correct answers:"Correct" becuz they're all shitposted by the same mischievous, antagonist OP...Like I said, GTFO !
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 12:14:33 2019 No.11198764 File: 77 KB, 1166x465, 1562305607304.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 12:21:33 2019 No.11198776 >>11196245fucking literally this. half these niggas don't know what a proof is. >>11198363>Nikola TeslaHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAHHAcan you please reproduce this post?
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 13:06:08 2019 No.11198860 >>11198776>HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAHHA>says a literal retard psued monkey who can't use simple logicDo you think anyone finds you credible desu? They are laughing at you not with you
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 13:07:15 2019 No.11198863 >>11198047learn to use a switch nigga
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 14:05:03 2019 No.11199007 >>11198363Lmao >>11197122 called it. You don’t have special insider knowledge about the “structure of reality” because you know about some arbitrary integer sequence, you’re a pseud that cannot into actual mathematics. Next you’ll start talking about how we’re all just too simple minded to understand your profound sequence. You don’t belong here, you’re lost.
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 14:09:04 2019 No.11199025 >>11198047Number entered: 102Result: "Your number is odd!"Boss: "You're fired."
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 14:38:13 2019 No.11199097 >>11199007>moronic person says moronic thingsimagine my shock, how novel
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 20:17:31 2019 No.11199988 File: 79 KB, 1000x472, Screen Shot 2019-12-04 at 8.17.12 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report] >>11198697Nice b8
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 22:03:59 2019 No.11200364 >>11194888>Numbers are used to count things and this is impossible without a signifier for 0Simply incorrect.
 >> Anonymous Wed Dec 4 23:54:58 2019 No.11200650 >>11200364nice argument
 >> Anonymous Thu Dec 5 03:26:13 2019 No.11200975
 >> Anonymous Thu Dec 5 04:05:09 2019 No.11201032 >>11196433Y'know, I remember seeing a maths journal where every single paper, every last one, used different definitions of even and odd. Every single one. None of them used a universal definition of even and odd defined from their first year of study. Absolutely not a one of them. They all were the living definition of hacks trying to write their own version of perfectly functional number theory.
 >> Anonymous Thu Dec 5 04:07:25 2019 No.11201036 >>11196560Retard, show me the plank that has length i and then try describe quantum mechanics without complex valued functions.
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