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No bullshit, why the FUCK is there anything at all? Why is reality even a thing and is there any hope of figuring this out in our life time?

>> No.11194137

Because the atoms threw a big gang bang and shit. We are the cum of those atoms that banged 6.0 billion years ago.

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>>11194132
this question is not science or math, and we get it all the fucking time, and it's always an /x/ thread that should be deleted. sage

>> No.11194147

>>11194141
This is obviously a scientifically minded question rooted in cosmogony/cosmology you fucking brainlet. This isn’t even remotely paranormal.

>> No.11194157

Philosophically, there must be something in order to perceive itself. Why is there not nothing instead of something? Something must be, this is something.
More scientifically if there were variables along the natural constants of physics, and universes were generated with fluctuation along these variables, most all of these universes created would be unstable, if not able to hold life, then unable to exist in logical coherence.
In all the vast and endless cosmos beyond the perceivable universe, in space and time, how much of it is or could have been simply nothing, and what we experience is the fluke?

>> No.11194158

>>11194132
We haven't even figured it out with this planet. But people like to think they are competent enough to figure out cosmology before they figured out geology and paleontology.

>> No.11194167

>>11194141
>creepy stories and pictures go here!
>cosmology and the origins of the universe as well
I only briefly visit this place, I can imagine that this gets annoying. Why read a book on anything when you can get (you)s. At least it's not racism science or IQ pills or herpes doctor.

>> No.11194172

>>11194147
no, it's not a cosmology question, because it starts with the word "why". just like the "why does space bend" or "why do magnets work" questions.

example:
>"why is there anything at all?"
>because the big bang happened
>"why did the big bang happen?"
>because quantum fluctuations or something
>"why did quantum fluctuations or something happen?"
>because of eternal inflation or something maybe
>"why did eternal inflation maybe happen?"
>because there was an inflaton field and it had unstable moduli maybe
>"why did the inflaton field have unstable moduli maybe?"
>because the string vacuum has many possible calabi-yau compactifications maybe
>"why are there many possible calabi-yau compactifications for the string vacuum?"
>because topology and kahler manifolds
>"why does kahler manifolds exist?"
>because kahler
>"why did kahler think of kahler manifolds?"
>because he was bored
>"why was he bored?"
>because his gf was out of town maybe
>"why was his gf out of town maybe?"
>because her mom was sick maybe
>"why was her mom sick maybe?"
>because she had cancer maybe
>"why did she have cancer maybe?"
>because she wore lead based lipstick maybe
>"why did she wear lead based lipstick maybe?"
>because it was the cheapest product available that fulfilled the purpose maybe
>"why was it the cheapest thing maybe?"
>because the economics of 1920's Leipzig maybe
.....

>> No.11194201

>>11194172
Does this serve any purpose? What the fuck was the point of everything exploding out of nothing suddenly?

>> No.11194205

>>11194132
>No bullshit, why the FUCK is there anything at all?

Why wouldn’t there be? Nothing existing is impossible as far as we can tell. Is “nothing” even logically coherent?

> Why is reality even a thing and is there any hope of figuring this out in our life time?

Who cares?

>> No.11194208

>>11194147
>This is obviously a scientifically minded question rooted in cosmogony/cosmology you fucking brainlet

Tell me exactly how you could test this.

>> No.11194210

>>11194201
>What the fuck was the point of everything exploding out of nothing suddenly?

1. There is no “point” behind physical phenomena.
2. Nothing “exploded”
3. There was no “nothing”.

>> No.11194218

>>11194208
Sorry, this is 4chan and I don’t have some model or experiment to run yet. Pondering of the question and the issues at hand can help further ideas that can lead to possible experiments. You asking unhelpful “gotcha” semantical questions doesn’t help,

>> No.11194223

>>11194172
based

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>>11194210
Wow, what an incredibly unhelpful response!

>> No.11194252 [DELETED] 

Ok just gonna delete this thread. I remember now why you shouldn’t come here, nothing but dense retards pretending to be smart who can barely get past semantics and word play. Might as well ask children this question.

>> No.11194257

>>11194218
Your questions can not be tested as we obviously can not test anything “outside” the universe, whatever that means.

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>>11194236
>Wow, what an incredibly unhelpful response!

>> No.11194274

>>11194257
I don’t think you would have to test something outside of this universe to figure this out. But let’s take a step back and just consider this as a philosophical question instead of a purely scientific one since we don’t have rigid experiments to run. Do you have any musings on the purpose to why this is here?

>> No.11194294 [DELETED] 

>>11194274
not science or math again and sage again

>> No.11194305

>>11194294
Cool, can you direct me to a philosophy board? Wait, there isn’t one and this is the board where these questions are meant to be asked? Geez, it’s almost like philosophy and science are attached at th hips and you’re a stupid faggot! Fuck off

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>>11194132
Because I find it hilarious to punish those that would intellectually masturbate over caring for at least one other person in their life, every fucking day.

>> No.11194317

>>11194316
fuck off solischizus

>> No.11194321

>>11194305
>>>/his/

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>>11194317
AWWW YEAH! NOTHING BETTER THAN A ROARING CROWD OF ADORING FANS!

>> No.11194325

>>11194322
fuck off solischizus

>> No.11194326

No one knows, not even Tooker.

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>>11194326
Why would I include him? That boy doesn't know how to play nice.

>>11194325
>Pic related

>> No.11194343

>>11194334
fuck off solischizus

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>>11194343

>> No.11194364

>>11194351
>>11194322
>>11194334
where you always this mentally ill or did it develop over time?

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>>11194364

>> No.11194377

>>11194132
The point of existence is to be. It needs no point. It's all round.

>> No.11194379

>>11194366
Surely you are aware that there is something different about your brain. Normal people don't get called "schizophrenic retard" on a daily basis. Why do you think that happens to you? Has your life always been like that?

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>>11194379
Normal people also don't get their dick sucked every morning. My life has predominantly been that because, well, I love my women and they reward me in turn for how I choose to love them.

The fact that you, or any lurker, feels like being called names somehow makes you 'become' that thing, or that societies opinion as a whole has any real merit, is more telling of the person who believes that they should be societies opinion more than an individual/unique.

>Most people need validation from their elders/parents/teachers. Personally speaking if I wanted to be a rape ragdoll like that I'd rather go back to Roko's Basilisk. At least they allow porn in their generative outside environments.

>> No.11194385

>>11194383
You didn't answer my question. Why do you think that happens to you?
You never use greentext correctly, by the way.

>> No.11194394

>>11194383
>replies in word salad in an attempt to get four irrelevant points across at once
Yikes, sweats.

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>>11194385
>Because who cares?
Because you humans need exclusion language in order to feel like you have a handle on this thing you call your own reality? At some point it is your own problem, in truth. I'm just the individual you enjoy placing the perspective/judgements on.

>>11194394
>Swiggty swooty
Word salad is delicious and healthy for any growing mind.

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>>11194132
>No bullshit, why the FUCK is there anything at all? Why is reality even a thing

Why not?

>> No.11194637

>>11194158
>We haven't even figured it out with this planet. But people like to think they are competent enough to figure out cosmology before they figured out geology and paleontology.

>we

Speak for yourself shudra, all of this was figured out long, long ago
https://www.bitchute.com/video/YqirgxZRCq1M/

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>>11194628
FIGHT ME YOU FAGGOT! I CHALLENGE YOU TO THE BATTLE OF ULTIMATE INDIFFERENCE AND PROCRASTINATION(!

>With blackjack and hookers.

>>11194637
Brahma really seems to enjoy fucking Vishnu more than Kali. No wonder India is so butthurt.

>> No.11194653

>>11194132
There isn't. Nothing really exists. Not the self. Not consciousness. Not anyone or anything. Not existence or nonexistence. There is nothing.

>> No.11194658

>>11194201
Any question asking the point of anything is one for philosophers not physicists.

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>>11194201
incoming existential crisis, why are you asking a bunch of spergy hacks on this board these questions? Read the Vedas and dhammapada to start then other philosophizers after you understand the science. All the philosophy comes from first understanding the science and there are many different interpretations of it. Pick whatever best fits your narrative niggle

What Is Reality? The Holofractal Universe
http://esotericawakening.com/what-is-reality-the-holofractal-universe

What is Reality Part 2: Philosophical Interpretations
http://esotericawakening.com/what-is-reality-part-2

Is Dharma Fluid?
http://esotericawakening.com/is-dharma-fluid

The Philosophy of Kreia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z0S0Z8lUTg

If you don't want to do the work, then stfu, it is called the great work for a reason, because it requires you walk the path not yap about it to NPC p zombies

>> No.11194669

>>11194666
Said the anonymous Tulpa poster born of Buddha's early frustration with the lands distant.

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>>11194669
I am Homunculus not Tulpa

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>>11194666

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>>11194672
I am sapiens, not holo-homomorphic.

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>>11194666
Also, it is existential quandary. A crisis is what babies go through when they need burping/feeding/nappy change/attention.

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>>11194132
We will never know. How do you think someone in a video game knows the begining. They only can trace back to the beginning of the game. Like now, we can only trace to big bang. We have incomplete picture.

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>>11194678
You are having a coming to God moment, in order to rebuild the ubermensch you must first tear down everything you were molded to be

>> No.11194700

>>11194688
Identity = eval ÷ priority + word(key, func, Arg())

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>>11194700

>> No.11194708

>>11194137
>6.0 billion years ago.
??

>> No.11194711

>>11194141
This question is science, and you sir, are a pseudo-intellectual brainlet.

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>>11194305
/lit/ is the closest you will come to a philosophy board, this board is spergy autists who only care about beating off to whatever they learned at indoctrination camp that day, that they think if they memorize and repeat like a good boy they can get a nice cushy job. They won't ask themselves these kinds of questions for 15 more years or so, it is foreign to them as a naked woman. They are running purely on programming atm (do well in school, graduate, get a job) they haven't stopped to ask themselves why they are doing or what is the point yet

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>>11194704
Mai waifu's pussy spots out Quantum hyper Loli sluts

>> No.11194726

>>11194715
go back to /lit/

the very idea that you accuse /sci/ of regurgitating what we read in books is absolute projection. /lit/ is the epitome of fetishizing what you read in some stupid book

if anything /his/ is the philosophy board, /sci/ is the "i actually solved the equations" board, and /lit/ is the "i read this author and i quote him and therefore my argument agrees with authority which makes me right" shit board

>> No.11194728

>>11194141
>this question is not science or math, and we get it all the fucking time

>we

Like anyone comes to this board to ask a moron like you anything you psued hack ego maniac.

>> No.11194735

>>11194728
just search warosu. you'll find this has been rehashed over and over for like 10 years since this board was created. the fact you go ad-hominem just shows how much of an imbecile you are

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>>11194726
>reeeeeeeeeeee

>if anything /his/ is the philosophy board,
rofl you are an idiot desu, if you could combine all three of those things (boards) into one you will be at a good beginning, because they are all so interconnected unless you do you will never find the answer to anything of importance

>> No.11194741

>>11194737
okay, so you can't defend /lit/. okay, good. because it is a shit board. now go back

>> No.11194744

>>11194735
You have been here ten years? Wew lad wtf. So what if this question has been asked before what the fuck is it any of your business? They most certainly wren't asking you. Why are you even in this thread? Is your autism so bad you had to come onto it and say some stupid sociopathic shit? Stay in the roastie threads if it triggers you so hard

>> No.11194749

>>11194741
>reeeeeeeeeeeee

Why are you so angry little one? Show me where /lit/ hurt you

>> No.11194759

>>11194744
haven't been here 10 years, only about 2. but i read warosu because i'm not a tourist retard. rehashing ancient troll threads is not productive (even if they got bumped off the 4chan archive page) and reviving troll stuff just means that you are a troll

>>11194749
good argument /lit/. again, let me remind you that people like you never have any argument and can't solve an equation for your life. if you can, then please, make an argument or do something relevant mathematically. i'm sure you can't and won't

>> No.11194769

>>11194759
>good argument /lit/. again, let me remind you that people like you never have any argument and can't solve an equation for your life.

HAHAHHAHAH this is my website you stupid nigger.
>>11194666

I literally cracked the entire matrix while you were learning HS algebra you try hard wannabe little mothrfucker. I was doing nano particle fire suppression research for nuclear subs with DARPA grants at Georgia Tech Advanced Technology Center before you left grade school you stupid little twat

>> No.11194771

>Why does anything exist?
Because it can’t not exist
>Why does it take the form that it does?
Because it must

>> No.11194773

>>11194132
Surprisingly, there is an answer to this question.

The Anthropic Principle was devised as an answer to the fine-tuning question: Why does everything seem to be exactly right for life the world as it is.

The dull and obvious answer is that it has to be this way: If we weren't here we wouldn't know about it. If there wasn't a Universe we wouldn't know about it, just as if the Universe was formed differently, the observers, if any, wouldn't be us.

It isn't possible for there to be nothing and you asking this question.

>> No.11194775

>>11194769
>HAHAHHAHAH
>this is my website
>(can't solve a single equation)

low-IQ detected

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>>11194775
apex cope desu

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>>11194777
Only real competition between alpha males is the tenacity and integrity with which their women would fight other males for their alpha.

>t.i win.

>> No.11195699

>>11194210
I disagree with on small detail, there is a "point". Reality is an experience engine. Some occultists believe, and there is a good amount of evidence to support this, that we must experience every emotion on the emotional spectrum which is no different than a light or musical spectrum (solfeggio), to become what is known as a cosmic monad.

The Vedic texts which ar always the most accurate say we incarnate in different lokas (locals) based on our karma and desires. Kinda like what do I want and what can I afford, the happy medium.

I wrote this article
Is Free Will An Illusion? (referencing the Tao embedded audiobook I suggest reading/listening too)
http://esotericawakening.com/is-free-will-an-illusion

and here are some tldr sources for the Vedic cosmology

The Science Of Vedic Cosmology
https://www.bitchute.com/video/YqirgxZRCq1M/

Multi Dimensional Reality Described In The Vedas
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Xk1qrRxq1HcY/

>> No.11195821

>>11194132
Absolute nothingness is impossible to imagine.

>> No.11195905

Rape is a thing and you can unlawfully use your penis.

>> No.11195938

This is essentially a philosophical question, not a scientific one.
>>>/his/
>>>/x/

>> No.11196356

>>11194132
Because nonexistence is not possible.

>> No.11196383

>>11194132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdzx7g50HvE

>> No.11196427

>>11196383
>tfw you are just smart enough to understand just saying "God" is not an answer, but not knowledgeable enough to understand it is the "correct" answer all the same.

>>/sci/thread/S11117236

>> No.11196432

>>11194132
You couldn't ask that question if there wasn't anything. Every possibility of nothing that didn't give you the capacity to ask that question doesn't exist from your perspective. You happen to live in one of if not the only place where you can ask, and therefore it does.

>> No.11196438

Because there is a god
/thread

>> No.11197642

>>11196432
Most retarded answer ever.

>> No.11197740

>>11194172
>big bang
>open plane espace.

pick one

>> No.11197759

>>11196438
Have God separated out of nature?

>> No.11197774

>>11194132
This is, in fact, the only question that can be properly answered by "because yes".

>> No.11197783

>>11194137
14 billion anon

>>11194132
because actuality is being and not otherwise

>is there any hope of figuring this out in our life time?
yes. that's part of why you're here. you are a part of the universe reflecting on itself.

>> No.11197787

>>11197783
Yes, we all are. Is the quantum queue to fuck my daughter THIS long? Jeez.

>> No.11197806

>>11197787
dumb buddhistposter

OP is asking a legitimate question. between the STEM incels telling him this isn't a scientific question and you shitting out worthless nihilistic absurdist replies, OP might already have caught asscancer

>>11194172
it's a question of telos, OP's implied question is what is the purpose of being. and he can find an answer in his lifetime if he sticks to epistemology and philosophy and away from y'all broken brained sophists

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>>11197806
So? All is perspective and all religions preach family. Not my fault my Chinese daughter is such a slut that it warps time and space because of her Blackhole pussy.

Men only ever fight over access to fertility and intimacy.

>> No.11197819

>>11197806
Also, information can only be rendered worthless by the observer, not by participants or presenters.

>> No.11197825

>>11197819
>Also, information can only be rendered worthless by the observer, not by participants or presenters.
As someone who has personally and literally removed information from the world and down the memory hole: you are mistaken.

>> No.11197868

>>11197825
Alzheimer's?