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11185947 No.11185947 [Reply] [Original]

>unlike STEM slaves we from the soft sciences are actually capable of thinking critically.

>> No.11185954

>>11185947
Cope STEMcuck

>> No.11185971
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>>11185947
Daily reminder to bulli your weeb daily, or else they become like this.

>> No.11185974

I want to stick my dick in that moth NNNGGGGGGGGG

>> No.11185975

honestly though critical thought and free exploration are easier in soft sciences, STEM means you can't derive from first principles and basically need to be forcefed material

>> No.11185985

>>11185975
>honestly though critical thought and free exploration are easier in soft sciences

Not really. There is still a canon of stuff you are supposed to read and know, actually doing your own shit starts with the master to some degree but actually with your ph.d.

If you do it seriously then there isn't a big difference between soft and hard sciences. Though it's way easier to asspull stuff in soft sciences.

>> No.11186291

>>11185947
STEM fags are often highly autistic therefore highly dogmatic, if you steer them off a well beaten path they have been trained to understand they sperg out and can't function. Critical thinking is not in their purview, they only need to solve specific logic problems not really understand them so they usually don't. I worked for a literal rocket scientist at the Georgia Tech Advanced technology Development Center doing nano particle fire suppression and the dude was borderline retarded and couldn't understand simple logic outside of his specific engineering education.

>> No.11186297

>>11185975
>critical thought
not real

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>>11186291
Which is where yoiu come in /sci/, just smart enough to think critically yet not smart enough to see the whole picture.

>> No.11186874

>>11186403
lol yes p much

>> No.11186888

>>11185975
>STEM means you can't derive from first principles and basically need to be forcefed material

That's what studying is for. You are supposed to research/read relevant books yourself as there isn't enough time in lectures.

>> No.11186951

>>11185947
Same anon. Psychology majors are based.

>> No.11187028

>>11186291
samefag here decided to come back and give a specific example of this dudes autism. I had to get some thermal tiles for a project we were working on. I needed 7 I think so I went to buy them from the manufacturer. he manufacturer only had two boxes/sizes they sold them in. On was a 6 tile box and the other 12 tile box I think, possibly 9 but doesn't matter.

I bought the large box and left store. When I get in the car he calls me on my cell phone and we were talking about some mundane shit, probably other materials we needed for the experiment we were doing, copper and charcoal or some such thing. Anyhow he asks me how many tiles I got and I said I didn't know I just got the large box and he started to freak out on me saying I was inexact or something like that.

I was flabbergasted of course I was like wtf you on about schizo (not in these words though of course). He was upset I would buy the box without knowing how many tiles were in it. I kept trying to explain to him it didn't matter because the smaller box only had 6 in it and we needed 7 so it was either but two boxes of the small or one of the large but no matter how I tried to explain it to him he just couldn't process it the logic of it. His autism wouldn't allow him to understand it didn't fucking matter how many were in the box, it was the only thing we could but to satisfy our need.

I explained if we needed to know for accounting I could just count it at th office/look at the number on the box, but for purchasing purposes it was irrelevant how many were any it because the only other option was a box that had less than we actually needed. This autistic fucker just couldn't understand the simple logic of it and wanted to continue pressing the narrative I was "sloppy" on his mind for not knowing how many tiles were in it before I bought it when the simple fact was I wasn't a fucking moron and knew it was simply not relevant to whether I had to buy it or not.

>> No.11187047

>>11187028
this was only one of many autistic sperg fests I could cite over the years we worked together. I installed a call recorder on my cell phone to record every conversation we had in case he got spergy and tried to misrepresent or say some stupid shit in the future, I would have a log of it to present my case to whoever I may need to clarify the situation/circumstances too who wasn't a turbo autist

>> No.11187051

>>11185947
Unlike the STEM slaves, people from soft sciences actually get jobs. Besides, they gain amazing and pretty difficult to learn skills such as dealing with people. Most of you cunts are so autistic you weep when you realize modern medicine is still the result of trial and error. You think you know how the world works but you don't realize there are shit we can't do, and others that are not convenient to do.

>> No.11187054

>>11187051
>people from soft sciences actually get jobs
lol

>> No.11187063

>>11187054
Well yeah. Psychology potheads end up as the Human Resources guys who fuck people over all the time, and every single company needs one of those. Meanwhile, how many positions are there for a math PhD? An academy circlejerk begging for grants at most.

>> No.11187070

>>11187063
There's a million applied science positions for math PhDs; mostly in bioinformatics or pharmacometrics

>> No.11187071

>>11187070
and there's a billion positions for any soft science. Just try any third world country and tell me where the fuck can you find applied science positions.

>> No.11187075

>>11187071
What kind of retarded argument is that?
>There's food all over the world
>OH YEAH WELL TRY GOING TO KENYA TO FIND FOOD GOOD LUCK ASSHOLE

>> No.11187081

>>11185947
Well you have to think critically if you're living on a budget of $1000 / month. I can go and buy the more expensive cheese and not give a damn because STEM salary is comfy enough that it really doesn't matter..

>> No.11187091

>>11187075
You tell me. You think nobody lives in Kenya, that food isn't needed there? I don't know what's the matter with you autistic types, always playing the idiot savant. You always overlook the big picture. Guess this is the reason why charismatic people like Steve Jobs or Zuckerberg are the leaders of billionaire companies while the supposed geniuses behind them never do a single shit on their own.

>> No.11187120

>>11187028
how many tiles were in the box?

>> No.11187127

>>11185947
>thinking critically
>pulling shit out your ass that isn't reproducible in the slightest
>will never be as creative and rigorous as mathematicians

>> No.11187162

>>11187071
No that is some retarded logic. Why can't we just assume the job market in developing countries is worse compared to developed rather than just the hard sciences being disadvantaged; compared to the soft sciences?
However, if you really want to go with your horrible argument tell me why an Engineer would find it harder to find a job in [a developing nation] compared to someone qualified in the soft sciences.

>> No.11187163

>>11187028
>other 12 tile box I think, possibly 9 but doesn't matter
>doesn't matter
how much fucking tiles were in the large box anon?
If you bought a large box without knowing the actual number, I would've fired you on the spot for being such a brainlet.

>> No.11187231

>>11186291
completely accurate

>> No.11187234

>>11185947
Which soft science? How many sexes / genders are there in the species Homo sapiens?

>> No.11187515

>>11187163
lol see, look at this autism. Why dos it matter anon? Either it was 9 which I would have to buy for obvious reasons as stated or it was 12 which I still would have bought because it is easier and more convenient to carry one box than two. Who cares if it had 9 or 12? It doesn't matter which, I wrote it that way to catch one of you autists as an example

>> No.11187519
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11187519

>>11187120
9 anon, there were 9 tiles

>> No.11187564

>>11187515
It's not about whether or not you bought a box with 9 or 12 tiles. It's neither about actual autism although many STEMlets are somewhat Aspergian with tons of other issues in my experience. It's about the control they want to exercise over you. This is the reason why despite me having studied software engineering and computer science, I never went into the industry. You're in every way except in name a slave of your company who can easily get fired, bullied or overworked for the tiniest mistakes or none at all and don't think your employer won't try to badmouth you. Say goodbye to any actually decent job afterwards.

>> No.11187765

>>11187564
Sometimes that can be the case with a shit boss, but no, this was about his inability to understand it did't fucking matter how many tiles were in the box

>> No.11187785

>>11187234
I can count them on 2 fingers

>> No.11187822

>>11187028
It's your fault for pretending not to know the number of tiles you bought. Why didn't you just tell him so that he didn't think you were a drooling nincompoop?

>> No.11187881

>>11187822
you are a turbo autist, a perfect example of OP's point and should kys

>> No.11187976

>>11185947
she could science my Stem, if you know what i mean

>> No.11188030

>>11187881
Alright... he still could of told him though.

>> No.11188113

>>11188030
>could of

>> No.11188275

>>11188113
I guess that grammatical error means the train of logic is wrong, huh? Stick to social "science"

>> No.11188283
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>>11185947
Taking psychology class
The teacher said at least 3 times within an hour that "Yes psychology is a REAL science!"

>> No.11188294

>>11188275
I did not even comment on the statement, just that
>could of
is a stupid mistake to make.

>> No.11188986

>>11187163
>>11187822
>>11188030
Jesus Christ you autistic fuckers how many tiles in the box doesn't matter. It was an elementary logic problem where the actual value didn't matter.

I had no idea this many people on this board actually had this kind of autism fuck

>> No.11188989

>>11185947
People who are gifted in mathematics and science are superior because they can understand the universe, existence, self, reality, and consciousness better. Even better than psychology students.

>> No.11189149

>>11185947
Criminology is fun.

>> No.11189267

>>11188986
another case of a dumbshit trying to make a smart person dumber than them in some way

>It was an elementary logic problem where the actual value didn't matter.
if the big box had >12 tiles then it'd matter, dumb ass nigger, because then there's a question of is it better to buy 2 small or 1 big?
obviously you need to know how many tiles are in the big box and also the cost per tile in each box (larger might be cheaper) among other things

the guy would like to see that you make your decisions rationally and not just like "smol box 2 smol buy BIG"
also, if he's the engineer in charge, he's the one who actually has to justify each and every purchase to his superiors, and "the retarded intern did it" isn't going to cut it.

>> No.11189280

>>11189267
I am not OP you stupid autistic monkey, why in the fuck would you think I am OP? That is the problem with dumb asses like you, you are always assuming shit and projecting.

This is a logic problem with a red herring to trick idiots. It is basically a trick question and these kinds of questions are commonly used in IQ tests. The red herring is the value to trick morons like you because the value doesn't matter because it is a logic problem NOT A MATH PROBLEM YOU STUPID AUTISTIC NIGGER

>> No.11189288

>>11188989
>People who are gifted in mathematics and science are superior because they can understand the universe, existence, self, reality, and consciousness better
>t. constant name dropping narcisist constantly mentioning hes a MENSA member

>> No.11189300

>>11189280
nobody cares who you are
whether you are OP or not, the fact that you agree with his opinion shows you're just another one of those coping brainlets
>my superior is such a dumbass I'm so objectively smart because muh half-ass logic but I'm stuck being some low tier cuck slave labor cuz nobody understands muh high IQ

>> No.11189346

Many of you soft science types are the types that are so stupid, you can't see through the obvious lies of those who tell you that you are smart.

>> No.11189461

>>11187162
The fact that the job market is worse is a disadvantage to hard sciences themselves. You may like to think, but first and foremost you need to eat. Communism is dead and buried, if it doesn't make money its worthless.

Developing nations have awfully less investment because often such projects require big budgets people there can't afford. Cheaper, more accesible markets are what flourish there.

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>>11185947
Yes, you're rigor is unquestionable.

>> No.11189892

>>11189867
Well, how would you figure out if the inuit really used their frozen shit to cut things?
This is very strong evidence that suggests that it isn't possible, therefore they probably did not.
It's good science.

>> No.11189940

>>11189892
The outcome either way has no relevance to anyone alive.

>> No.11189944

>>11189300
hahaha this guy isn't just a brainlet he is a literal schizo

>> No.11189948

>>11189944
?

>> No.11189962

>>11189948
way to keep moving the goal posts to try and cope with the fact that anon posted a logic problem you failed schizo

>> No.11189964

>>11186291
>dude was borderline retarded and couldn't understand simple logic outside of his specific engineering education.
That's everyone in every field

>> No.11190049

>>11189940
Keeping records of the past is easily the most important human tradition.
Granted this is a very specific correction to our beliefs about the traditions of a very specific culture. But you can't disregard this as worthless, because it is very dangerous ideology to say "these records are worth keeping and the other ones are not".

In that sense you are only partially correct. The research question has no real relevance, but the metanarrative it opens is highly relevant.

>> No.11190072

It's embarrassing when anons use the "schizo" and "autist" insults, you know you have been conditioned on this board to use those terms, right?

>> No.11190084

>>11190072
Obviously. but it doesn't mean some of he people here don't legitimately suffer from these things.hence using "literal" as an adjective. There is obviously literally something wrong with his mind which has been shown by his inability to determine what is and isn't pertinent information in the conversation he chose to be apart of. Generally this inability is most prevalent in literal schizos who will carry on a completely different conversation than everyone else around them and when someone tries to make sense out of their nonsensical babble using logic they simply move the goal posts and rant more nonsensical drivel like what you said had no bearing on their delusion, because it didn't. You will never be able to make logical sense of what they are saying because nothing they are saying is logical.

>> No.11190101

>>11190072
Just one point in fact out of numerous things I could pick apart in ramblings but won't take the time to do outside of this one

him: the guy would like to see that YOU make your decisions rationally and not just like "smol box 2 smol buy BIG"
also, if he's the engineer in charge, he's the one who actually has to justify each and every purchase to his superiors, and "the retarded intern did it" isn't going to cut it.

me: I am not OP you stupid autistic monkey, why in the fuck would you think I am OP? That is the problem with dumb asses like you, you are always assuming shit and projecting.

him: nobody cares who you are whether you are OP or not

This is literally nonsensical schizo "reasoning". His entire response was based on his assumption that I was someone I am not and when this was explained to him he acted like it didn't matter, when that is clearly not the case to anyone who has a healthy functioning mind.

Added to the fact that he failed a simple logic question previous to this as well which led to this even happening and you can easily deduce he is a drooler with a very low IQ or a literal schizo who cannot access the proper variables needed to make rational/logical decisions

>> No.11190104

>>11190101
idk dude, if I saw that a small box was too small my recommendation would roughly be "buy big"

>> No.11190116

>>11190104
>small
>big
Again a completely moronic response hat shows you don't understand what factors in the OP were important to solving the logic problem. You choose to oversimplify things with an irrelevant details/thought processes which is why it is oblivious you are a drooling brainlet something akin to idiocracy.

>> No.11190136

>>11190116
Well at least he isn't completely wrong this time. The "small" box did not meet the needs of the purchaser therefore it doesn't matter how many were in the "large" box as it was the only option to solve the problem at hand.

Unless of course the purchaser wanted to buy two boxes, but then as other anon pointed out why buy two when you can buy one, unless there were external factors like price or the large box had an incredibly ridiculous number of tiles like 50 or 500 etc which OP clearly stated was not the case.

The only other factor someone would possibly consider would be a cheaper price for buying two boxes, and this is illogical to assume as the single box is often where you get the price break from buying in bulk not buying two small boxes but all of this is irrelevant to the original problem anyhow as that information was not provided and would fall under "given".

There was only one logical outcome for OP's problem, buy the large box of tiles, if you can't solve this logic problem you are a brainlet and science is probably not the field you should pursue.

>> No.11190143

>>11189940
So has astronomy.

>> No.11190162

>>11189964
This.

>> No.11190167

>>11187028
Should've just said it was 12 and be done with it.

>> No.11190171

>>11190167

>>11187515

>> No.11190180

>>11185947
Because you abuse the term to mean something completely different, absolutely retarded and completely useless.

>> No.11190226
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>>11185947
>we from the soft sciences are actually capable of thinking critically.

You are so funny in your delusion slave of the system.

>> No.11190276

>>11187028
With the limited information in this post, and not knowing the exact conversation had, it sounds like your colleague wanted some economic justification. If you needed 7 tiles, and your 2 options were two boxes of 6 tiles, and one box of (more than 6 tiles, likely more than 7 tiles), then the next step would be to evaluate the two options for overall price to obtain 7 or more tiles.
If buying 2x 6 tile boxes cost less than the single box of unspecified (but more than 6) tiles box, then that would be pertinent info for the decision. He needs to know that the required quantity was obtained for the least amount of money. If it was adequately addressed in the conversation, and he was still flipping out, it's out-of-hand. If it wasn't addressed, then he has a case to sperg out because you would have neglected to relay that important info.

>> No.11190306

>>11190136
>this is illogical to assume as the single box is often where you get the price break from buying in bulk not buying two small boxes but all of this is irrelevant to the original problem anyhow as that information was not provided and would fall under "given".
What are we arguing for in this thread, logical vigor, or socially acceptable margin-for-error? If you need to be logically vigorous (which takes a few extra seconds of your time, if that to non-brainlets in a situation like this box purchase), knowing the price of each box would be sufficient for deciding to sperg or not. We were given that the large box meets the qty criteria, and that two small boxes would meet the qty criteria as well; we now would want to know which purchasing option was cheapest out of the two. You can't assume the large box is the cheaper option overall. Sales generally tend that it is cheaper per tile, but that isn't the same as cheaper to meet the criteria that single time. It's a clear assumption that can't be made to remain "logical"
But if we're just talking about "Hey, this makes some rough sense to some extra tiles, the price is pretty much the same", "Ok anon, sure, a few potential extra dollars doesn't really matter here", then this comes off as a slide thread.

>> No.11190319

>>11190306
>You can't assume the large box is the cheaper option overall.

>implying two boxes of 6 items would ever be cheaper than a box with 9 of those items

This thread has become an exercise in the dangers autism and proves OP's point unequivocally. There are at least 3 people in this thread who can't understand simple logic problems

>> No.11190416

>>11190319
>This thread has become an exercise in the dangers autism and proves OP's point unequivocally. There are at least 3 people in this thread who can't understand simple logic problems
Isn't it more likely to be trolling? Also, not that anyone would ever take the time to flesh it out, but I'm curious what people here use to qualify something as autism vs shitposting/trolling.

>> No.11190486

>>11190143
Astronomers could warn us of an extinction level event.

>> No.11190487

>>11190226
Confusing layout. They should have staggered the panels, Huxley's on the left, Orwell's on the right.

>> No.11190495

>>11190319
Autists are stronger at logic than neurotypical people, when you are dealing with somebody who can't understand logic, they are not autistic, but just a moron. (or it is you who is actually wrong, normies tend to have bizarre lapses in logic they can unreasonably hold on no matter how you try explaining their error)

>> No.11190552

>>11188283
Psychofag cope.kek

>> No.11191240

>>11189867
>>11189892
This paper is actually literally shit.
They tried to cut a piece of hide with the fecal knife and it just melted on contact because they fucking did the experiment at above freezing temperature.

>> No.11191241

>>11191240
lol

>> No.11191255

>>11189962
I'm not >>11189300

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>>11189280
>I am not OP you stupid autistic monkey, why in the fuck would you think I am OP?
when did i say you were OP, retard?

>The red herring is the value to trick morons like you because the value doesn't matter
classic low IQ response. suppose you need 7 tiles, the big box has 40+ tiles and the small box has 6?
i guess you'd apply your """logic""" and buy 1 big box because smol box 2 smol?

shitty undergrads with 0 real world experience just don't understand that in good engineering, precise decision-making is a habit, not just something you apply when you think you need it, otherwise you end up with pic related

>> No.11192234

>>11192161
But he gave an estimate of the amount of tiles. He claimed it was likely not much more than 12, so it wasn't that much of a discrepancy. Perhaps you are the low IQ one.

>> No.11192264

>>11192234
>the other 12 tile box I think, possibly 9 but doesn't matter.
P = NP I think, possibly true more or less, doesn't matter.

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>>11190319
>>implying two boxes of 6 items would ever be cheaper than a box with 9 of those items
Yes, you fucking retard. It's called being overstocked. Learn how the world works.

>> No.11192786

What if the tiles were expensive, then maybe it might be worthwhile to consider going to a different seller that can get you 7?
Also sure 12 tiles is cheaper per tile than buying 7, but does it matter if 9 tiles is already overbudget...

>> No.11192878

>>11192161
Those things were answered, good job on reading comprehension imbecile

>> No.11192881

>>11192700
This box is overwhelmingly literal morons, I see now why very thread is such shit. There was rarely any people on this board who aren't borderline retarded. This is a LARP board of wannabes

>> No.11192886

>>11185947
>be me
> will be a fully licenced parasitologist/Microbiologist in 1 year or less(finishing my career)
>live in Mexico
>Mexico job opportunies pay little and make you work way more than you should, but could be due to other factors
> see this post
> realize probably independent of the country or state STEM hommies and i are somewhat slaves
>kek and cry internally
>

>> No.11192998

>>11192234
So what you're saying is the value matters? Amazing how long it takes you retards to see the point

>>11192878
Obviously not

>> No.11193004

>>11186291
Cope

>> No.11193068

>>11192998
you are literally retarded it appears

>> No.11193367

>>11192886
>be Mexican

That's your problem.

>> No.11194911

>>11187028
Should've just told him you had a box with at least 7 tiles in it, fucking dunce. You must be one of those asshole who purposely make shit difficult for themselves and everyone so they have something to complain about.