IQ for Math Degree

[Anonymous No.11181904]

What's the minimum IQ to get a Bachelor's Degree in Mathematics, /sci/?

[Anonymous No.11181905]

>>11181904
99

[Anonymous No.11181908]

145

[Anonymous No.11181997]

>>11181904
IQ isn't a good measure for intelligence

[Anonymous No.11182013]

>>11181905
Surely it can't be that low?
>>11181908
I feel like 130 would be more reasonable?
Is there any evidence for what the average IQ of BA or BSc Math holders is?

[Anonymous No.11182016]

>>11182013
You said bachelors, not masters or above. So, 115 maybe? Maybe even less?

[Anonymous No.11182020]

>>11182013
>Bachelor's Degree
You can get a Bachelors in almost any field at almost any top 30 university with a perfectly average 100 IQ. Now a Masters/Doctorate in math? Yeah you're probably looking at 120-130 minimum if you plan to be successful and not struggle for 100 hours a week. Maybe a masters at a mid-tier institution with 110 IQ is doable.
t. nothing this is pure conjecture

[Anonymous No.11182023]

>>11182016

In terms of getting the bachelor's, would it vary a lot between people who take the hardcore 3rd and 4th year classes (I.e: Real Analysis 1 + 2, Complex Analysis 1 + 2, Topology) and people who stick to the more applied/general streams?

[Anonymous No.11182035]

>>11182013
>I feel like 130 would be more reasonable?
For a minimum IQ? You think everyone with a bachelors in math has an IQ of at least 130?

[Anonymous No.11182050]

>>11182035
Honestly yes

[Anonymous No.11182059]

>>11182013
130 is way too high

if you're talking minimum you could probably pull it off with 100 and lots and lots of hard work and good tutors

if you're talking how much you should have if you want to pull it off without inordinate amounts of suffering I'd say 115-120 is a good starting point

[Anonymous No.11182078]

>>11182059

What would you define as "inordinate amounts of suffering"?

[Anonymous No.11182125]

My IQ was tested at 94. I have a Bachelor's in math from an okay state school.
>inb4 how do you even brush your teeth in the morning

[Anonymous No.11182129]

>>11182125
Also my GPA was okay as well. 3.45. Not great but okay.

[Anonymous No.11182138]

>>11181904
>What's the minimum IQ to get a Bachelor's Degree in Mathematics, /sci/?
you'll get a higher IQ while doing math. Tho, you shouldn't rely on IQ. Like anything, the more you do it, the better you good at it. If you did 100 IQ test you'll be good at IQ test, not math.

[Anonymous No.11182150]

>>11181904
IQ is a meme. The average person could earn a degree a math if they practiced, but most are too lazy.

[Anonymous No.11182160]

>>11181904
Theres tons of incredibly successful students who are dumb as a rock so I wouldn't say academic performance its that dependant in intelligence.

Theres this guy thats on senior year of EE with me that's very fucking dumb and seriously has no business studying EE but gets by and occasionally gets good grades because hes pestering the profs all day and spends from 7am to 7pm every single day studying at the library.

He fucking aced the complex analysis class after doing no joke almost 1000 exercises thorught the semester and he outright says he doesnt understand what the fuck a fourier transform is and what its for even tho we've been using it for everything ever since.

Hard work can get you very far my friend, but you'll never be recognized as anything other than an extreme grinder.

[Anonymous No.11182171]

>>11182160
Sounds like a good hardworking lad. Respect.

[Anonymous No.11182195]

>>11182160

This is inspiring desu. Not everyone needs to earn/win a Nobel Prize. Grinding is respectable. I'm sure he'll do well in life with that approach and attitude. Happy for him.

[Anonymous No.11182197]

>>11181904
You didn't say what school, or that you need to do well enough to get into a good graduate program, so you could just go to some BS program and take the easiest classes, and even then you only need a 2.0 or whatever.

[Anonymous No.11182230]

>>11181904
Less IQ and more how persistent you are in memorizing the formulas

[Anonymous No.11182231]

>>11182150
Give me one piece of evidence for that claim

[Anonymous No.11182233]

>>11182197
Let's say an average-tier university in North America. Say getting between a 2.7 and 3.3 GPA (4.0 Scale). No interest in GS.

[Anonymous No.11182238]

>>11182230
Formulas? This is about a math degree.

[Anonymous No.11182245]

>>11182150
Maybe the average 4chan user but the average human? Absolutely fucking not. Most people are mouth breathing retards. My family is in the top 8% America in terms of wealth but both my parents though that calc 1 was insanely difficult.

Don't confuse the average intelligence of your social circle with the average intelligence of the population at large.

[Anonymous No.11182249]

>>11182059
>lots and lots of hard work and good tutors
Lets be real, neither of those happen.

[Anonymous No.11182251]

>>11182125
>>11182129
Based conscientious, focussed anon btfoing high IQ creative geniuses borderline passing with sporadic moments of brilliance and constant subjection to indignity because they can see through society's lies.

[Anonymous No.11182277]

Am I a brainlet if I've always been pretty smart but have no natural aptitude for math, struggling with college algebra? A lot of my issues have to do with my depression, which in high school, impaired my cognitive ability pretty badly, so I was never able to wrap my head around mathematical concepts. I also had shitty teachers.

[Anonymous No.11182284]

>>11181904
100

[Anonymous No.11182371]

>>11181904

Anything under 115 and you're going to be working twice as hard as everyone around you for half the results, depending on your personal endurance it might burn you out. It is technically possible, I suppose, to get through an undergrad math degree at a mid tier school with an IQ of about 100-110, as long as you avoid honors/graduate courses and have excellent support networks and study habits.

[Anonymous No.11182478]

>>11182013
about 130, which means the minimum is probably lower

[Anonymous No.11182487]

>>11181997
IQ is a good measure for success in math.

[Anonymous No.11182507]

>>11182171
>>11182195
Yeah the dude gets results and works hard and that's definitely respectable.
But there's a huge difference between that and being actually brilliant.

[Anonymous No.11182511]

>>11181904
300k starting

[Anonymous No.11182532]

>>11181905
Literally this

>>11182013
Of course it can be that low.
Most math majors end up as bottom of the barrel teachers. Besides some autistic savants the degree attracts people who couldn't cut it in engineering/cs/any other demanding degree. As such most of them fail to use their degree for any practical use (not entirely their fault, the degree is pretty useless) and fall back to being teachers.
Now a master's or a PhD is where you start to see the intelligent people.

>>11182050
Then you're an easily influenced retard who fell for memes. By all means major in math, it seems fitting for your intellectual level.

[Anonymous No.11182544]

>>11182532
>people who couldn't cut it in engineering/cs/any other demanding degree.
Those are easier than a math BS.

[Anonymous No.11182559]

>>11181904
Well Terence Tao, the smartest man in the world has an IQ of 220. I'd say a minimum IQ mathematician is about 1/3 as smart as Terence Tao, which would work out to an IQ of 73.

[Anonymous No.11182564]

>>11182507
Brilliance is an outlier. Why the fuck should that be the benchmark for academic success.

[Anonymous No.11182592]

personal experience in intelligence:

math > physics > medicine > engineering > everybody else

[Anonymous No.11182644]

>another IQ thread

[Anonymous No.11182658]

>>11181904
I'm 89 and I hold a phd in math.

[Anonymous No.11182715]

>>11182559
Similarly, 3 degrees celsius is three times as hot as 1 degree celsius.

[Anonymous No.11182735]

>>11181904
I probably have an IQ of about 125. I majored in math and work as an actuary. Gonna go with roughky 115 for math majors.

[Anonymous No.11182810]

>>11182658
Proof ?
>>11182735
Did you get a p.hd , how good is your research ?

[Anonymous No.11182854]

>>11182658
I'm 105 tested and hold a Ph.D in Physics, but perhaps that's why I was able to figure out some interesting research. Intelligent people from my perspective tend to follow rules set forth. If you bring up ideas on testing for a medium for light to travel through or to see if information can travel faster than light they'll just say because Einstein's Postulates... Eventhough, they just conveniently forget about classical physics.

[Anonymous No.11182857]

I won't say directly what my research is but basically imagine something very small (sub atomic) existing inside a material. Inside that material light is doing all kinds of things but from an outside the material perspective it has an effective speed less than the speed of light.

Now back to that small bit of mass, could it design an experiment to test that light can travel faster than its effective speed in the material? Who's to say light isn't constantly absorbed and readmitted by "something" on a timescale we can't comprehend yet.

[Anonymous No.11182861]

>>11182857
>>11182854
Cool man , where did you study ?
I can't comment on your research since i'm not a physicist but are you cited ?

[Anonymous No.11182865]

>>11181904
0

[Anonymous No.11182867]

>>11182861
Some of my papers yes, but they deal on trying to heat up fiber optic cables.

[Anonymous No.11182871]

>>11182867
Let me guess:

You’ve touched a fiber optic before but never one that requires the math you calculate?

[Anonymous No.11182887]

>>11182532
>who couldn't cut it in engineering/cs/any other demanding degree
cs is the degree for the masses to be pumped into economy. My courses there are the easiest I have and can easily aim for an A with half the work I put in any of my math classes.

[Anonymous No.11182893]

>>11182544
Engineer here.
I disagree, but the reason is because math is beautiful and interesting whereas grinding through engineering problems is absolute cancer.
Unfortunately nobody is ever going to pay me to rattle off a proof of the jordan curve theorem and I don't want to do a PhD...

[Anonymous No.11182946]

>>11182887
Unless you're a CS major I'm going to assume you've never made it out of a basic data structures and algos class, so probably why you have that stupid opinion.

[Anonymous No.11182973]

>>11182946
Half true maybe. That's mainly my impression from the few courses I had to take. Some others seem to be a lot more work, especially those that boil down to doing a project.

[Anonymous No.11182976]

This conversation is dumb... No one knows how another's brain works

[Anonymous No.11183132]

>>11181904
115+
if 115 then you have to put a lot of time
below that and it'll take you forever to understand concepts and apply them in any meaningful way

[Anonymous No.11183150]

Just average. I know literal retards in my class who graduated.

Anybody with an average IQ can complete any bachelors degree. The first 2 years of math is literally just practicing problems - you can ace an exam even if you don't understand the concepts on a deeper level. 3rd year is the same only with a lot more proofs - but even if you don't understand the proofs, you can just memorize sample ones off by heart. 4th year is basically 3rd year subjects with more rigor - at least that was the case for me.

What i would do is just memorize key theorems, proofs, and definitions - then practice - then once the summer came, i would read over the lecture slides of the year to actually understand the concepts.

Hope this helps

[Anonymous No.11183155]

>>11183150
>I know literal retards in my class who graduated.
I also know people passing math courses while being retarded
the thing is - if the exam can be passed by literal mindless grinding through countless problems and memorizing steps "if...then", then theoretically almost anyone can pass
but it won't change the fact that those people are not comprehending the steps and are useless when faced with new, unorthodox problems. and yes, I've also seen that in practice

[Anonymous No.11183168]

>>11181904
pornstar Giselle Palmer has bachelor degree in mathematics. Are you dumber than pornstar?

[Anonymous No.11183175]

>>11183168
>pornstar Giselle Palmer has bachelor degree in mathematics. Are you dumber than pornstar?
who said a pornstar has to be dumb?

[Anonymous No.11183184]

>>11183175
>>11183175
Why would she prefer taking dick in her ass if she would become quant or meme learning engineer with her degree?

[Anonymous No.11183193]

>>11183184
>Why would she prefer taking dick in her ass if she would become quant or meme learning engineer with her degree?
and what so entertaining about those things?
most people doing so are also miserable fucks so doing that doesn't make life good. you are mistaking what's good and what's ethical. maybe she likes those dicks in her more than doing other things? it may be immoral, unethical etc. but not illogical.

[Anonymous No.11183198]

>>11182544
Yeah no.
Not even close. Math is just math. Its straightforward. You know what you get and the only skills required are logic and mathematical skills. Meanwhile engineering/cs/chemistry/physics are far more complex in that they require multiple skill sets far and beyond math skills.

In that regard math is a far easier major. For engineering/physics/cs/chem you need to develop new skills that touch upon multiple different subjects, for math minus a few abstract classes it all builds on itself.

[Anonymous No.11183213]

>>11183198
A lot of people who fawn over math will hate you for saying that. However, I'm in my final year of undergrad of math and I agree. I'm not necessarily an autist but I do spend a lot more time obsessing over math and philosophy than my peers, but when it comes to a degree (for undergrad anyway) I think mathematics is only as hard as you make it. You could just as easily get a good grade by grinding out practice problems without any real understanding or deeper comprehension behind concepts.

[Anonymous No.11183215]

>>11181904
130 in a meme university, 145-150 in a real university depending on the year.

[Anonymous No.11183237]

>>11182564
Thats exactly my point, people always think you need to be some kind of genius to study math/physics or some engineering disciplines buy you really dont, you just need to be able to work hard.
I then showed an example of someone that is far from a genius but gets by out of pure hard work.

[Anonymous No.11183251]

>>11183193
Money is what matters, not what's entertaining.
An A list porn star might make a lot of money when they start but has to degrade themselves and then quickly watch their stock drop.
Meanwhile working as a quant guarantees stable high paying income for a few decades.
Most pornstars don't even break 500k throughout their entire career. A quant can make 100k a year after a couple years in the field.

If her degree was worth shit she wouldn't be a professional whore.

[Anonymous No.11183276]

>>11182887
>>11182973
>has only taken a few intro classes
>generalizes an entire field
What a fucking retard
You're right that cs attracts the masses but if you didn't know cs also has one of the highest drop out rates.
You know why?
Because retards like you take an intro programming class think it's easy, and then drop out after you fail intro to data structures or computer organization and architecture.

[Anonymous No.11183277]

>>11183251
>Money is what matters, not what's entertaining.
This is a subjective value judgement. If anything entertainment is more valuable than money as money is merely a means to an end. In any event, what truly matters is the flourishing of the individual. If they prefer anal to analysis who are we to judge? And let's be honest, either way you're still taking it in the ass.

[Anonymous No.11183292]

>>11183277
>This is a subjective value judgement.
...why do you think she went into porn?
Do you think she got into it because she thought it was fun to film herself having sex with std riddled strangers she barely met and to have those videos watched by millions of people?
Do you think she did it because she wanted strangers to stop her in public telling her they jacked off to her while asking her to show her tits or give them a blowjob?

She did it for the money you retard. If her degree was worth shit she wouldn't be a pornstar.

[Anonymous No.11183304]

>>11183276
But I did take a course about computer architecture and while being pretty hard at first, it eased up during the semester. Even then, the exam was easier than math ones.

CS has a huge drop out rate, because many don't know what to do after highschool and "something with computer" sounds very appealing to many.

[Anonymous No.11183332]

>>11183304
Well yeah, I never said organization is insane difficulty. Just that its much harder than intro and people drop out like crazy when they take it. Data structures is when the material becomes intellectually challenging.
You took organization I'm assuming not architecture. Organization is the intro but it varies per place. Some unis combine them.

I mentioned organization because where I went the class had a requirement that if you get less than a 70% on 3 out of 10 labs or get less than 70% on the midterm or the final you fail the class.
Tons of people failed. The exams had a reputation of being quite difficult so unless you tell me what math test you're comparing it to I'll assume it varies per place. The class was how the uni weeded out the massive amount of students that applied for cs.

[Anonymous No.11184697]

>>11182887
my math classes were mostly much easier than my cs classes, except for the honors differential equations class. i sort of wish there were more math classes like that at the school i went to.

[Anonymous No.11184759]

Can a 110-115 brainlet be able to unironically handle a masters in statistics?

Fell for the pre-med meme and worked at a hospital and hated it. Wanting to switch career into something along the lines of bio-stats

[Anonymous No.11184788]

>>11184759
Yes. You should only be concerned about intelligence if you want to be a PhD and perform very well at the same time in your field. As long as you are average and willing to work hard you can unironically do pretty much anything, just don't expect to ever be relevant in academia.

[Anonymous No.11184824]

>>11184788
Just needed the reassurance anon. I know my limits and I'm okay with being a "bench warmer" in the realms of science and math.

[Anonymous No.11184924]

>>11181904
100 or so. To get ANY degree, all it takes is for you to not be a complete idiot, at least IQ-wise. Any 110 IQ average joe can make his way through an undergraduate program with good studying habits, although that doesn't mean he'll be worth shit as a mathematician.

[Anonymous No.11185063]

What's the point of majoring in mathematics if you "enjoy" it but you will never be able to comprehend abstract topics and apply them in any meaningful way? You are literally grinding thousands of mathematical problems without knowing why.

[Anonymous No.11185204]

>>11181904
>proper capitalization
>apostrophes where they belong
>sensible comma positioning
Dude, you're ahead of at least 90% of the users here. Don't fret. You're good to go.

[Anonymous No.11185235]

>>11185063
i don't know what you mean by "abstract topics" but math is all about understanding whatever it is you're learning about, so if you don't understand the concepts pretty well then it quickly becomes very difficult to succeed, though you gain a better understanding through doing exercises and working through the details of the textbook author's reasoning. if the problem is that you're studying something but there are no motivating examples, you can probably find plenty online.

[Anonymous No.11185565]

>>11181904
I don't know about the minimum, but the average is 130.