/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.11179612]

Why are we so cruel?

[Anonymous No.11179616]

>>11179612
ducks are rapists though. what now vegans?

[Anonymous No.11179623]

>>11179612
Its OK, as long as you only do that kind of aggressive persecution to white men nobody cares. If its a woman, a black, a gay or a jew then woke society will speak up.

[Anonymous No.11179624]

>>11179623
anthro is against the rules, hunny

[Anonymous No.11179634]

>>11179612
That people are willing to treat other living beings that feel emotions like tools and inflict so much suffering on them, just to gain a bit of pleasure, is enough to convince me that humans are indeed pieces of shit. As for me, I only eat free range meat, even if I can only afford it once or twice a week.

[Anonymous No.11179640]

>>11179634
why is having feelings the important aspect of your morality? why not cognition instead? these animals are dumb as shit, just because they feel doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.11179649]

There's a difference between intentionally killing an animal for a laugh and killing an animal for economic or food purposes.

[Anonymous No.11179650]

>>11179612
Dunno. Hopefully the aliens kill everyone.

[Anonymous No.11179657]

>>11179649
You kill animals for your pleasure, both the same

[Anonymous No.11179661]

>>11179634
>caring about something so thoroughly in the outgroup as literal birds

[Anonymous No.11179674]

>>11179640
Plenty of humans are so stupid that they're incapable of contributing to society in a meaningful way. Yet every societal axiom tells us that they are valuable and deserve similar rights as other people.

[Anonymous No.11179677]

Give me 1 good reason why we should have moral considerations for animals.

[Anonymous No.11179679]

>>11179612
There was no material benefit for that guy, dude went out of his way to horrify onlookers. That said, a year for that is pretty steep.

[Anonymous No.11179704]

>>11179612
It's ABOUT the mentality, vegan dumb fuck. No, rolling over a bunch of ducklings does fuck all on the grand scheme of things, but the desire to roll over them and watch them suffer is what's fucked up. He actually tried to humanize and elevate their emotional state just to get pleasure from their misery. Someone who just eats meat while being psychologically removed from the process behind getting it isn't a threat to society or psychologically deranged.

[Anonymous No.11179706]

Communism 101

It's okay if the state does the murdering

[Anonymous No.11179718]

>>11179677
We are animals too

[Anonymous No.11179722]

>>11179706
It's not even communism, it's just ok if the law allows it

[Anonymous No.11179732]

>>11179704
your explanation is good because you looked beyond the politicisation of the material. But people have a response of disgust towards cruelty to animals for a good reason, which is why a person who is cruel to them is regarded as a twisted psycho. The take home message is that a culture which punishes individual instances of public animal cruelty is not living up to its ideals if it at the same time removes people from the understanding of where their food is coming from and how to get good clean healthy food.
You made the point that he humanized and elevated their emotional state, which may imply that you believe that the only reason any animals should be treated well is insofar as they are like humans. But there are reasons other than that they are like humans which should prompt our feeling that they deserve respect and good life conditions. They enjoy their lives in their own way, and ought to be allowed to do so.

[Anonymous No.11179738]

>>11179674
that is true, but it's not so easy to tell with humans which is why that axiom makes sense. even a "low iq" can contribute something meaningful, albeit unlikely. meanwhile non-human animals are an easy threshold. they're just good for their meat, as pets, or research.

[Anonymous No.11179749]

>>11179732
The primary purpose of a human civilization is to serve its own interest, that's why it exists. Everything else is secondary. Even if the ideal platonic vegan diet works, real vegan parents keep raising malnourished kids.
The best way too deal with both problem is to focus on the desired outcome: first meat, then possibly less animal suffering. Lab grown meat serves both purposes, with theoretically less energy (and therefore money). The best way to support animal welfare is to support research into lab grown meat.

[Anonymous No.11179757]

>>11179706
that's literally any ideology 101 you fucking brainlet
also do you think da ebil gubbiment is going and killing those chicks?

[Anonymous No.11179762]

>>11179677
I can't think of any, but we do. Even you, you wouldn't like to see an animal suffer.

There will be some hidden advantage as to why normal human beings have empathy for animals, natural selection lead to it.

[Anonymous No.11179774]

>>11179757
>that's literally any ideology 101 you fucking brainlet
any kind of anarchism

[Anonymous No.11179781]

>>11179612
One provides utility in exchange for instant death. One provides nothing in exchange for pain and suffering. Which is better OP?

[Anonymous No.11179783]

If the meat industry was on show for everyone all the time, it'd be cruelty. But it's neatly hidden away so it's just laziness. People are incredibly lazy ethically in general, especially when they feel like it somehow benefits them. There are very few people who have any backbone or original thought.

[Anonymous No.11179784]

>>11179774
i'm talking about ideologies that exist, anon

[Anonymous No.11179788]

>>11179677
Only that empathy for humans and empathy for animals aren't independent faculties. Just because you can separate them logically means little unless you're a flawlessly rational person.

[Anonymous No.11179796]

>>11179612
florida man is the type who will hurt people later

[Anonymous No.11179811]

>>11179612
Because most people care about virtue signaling and nothing else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9vLQUqG_l4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1EDPEt2rL0

[Anonymous No.11179812]

>>11179757

The government made it a monopoly and subsidizes it with tax dollars they force from you

[Anonymous No.11179958]

>>11179612
You should absorb plant energy and grow, animal energy makes you... Being farmed.

[Anonymous No.11180504]

>>11179612

[Anonymous No.11180509]

>>11179718
carnists can't come to terms with this simple truth

[Anonymous No.11180518]

>>11179612
>millions of baby chicks ground up alive?
why? and source

>>11179811
yeah except that's bullshit. that's part of how people work, or some groups of people, it applies more to left spectrum retards.
people really care about animals. a lot of people care more about animals than people.

[Anonymous No.11180524]

>>11180518
if you can't research this yourselves your head is deeper in the sand than you realize

[Anonymous No.11180534]

>>11180524
yeah because that's how forums work
>cant research my claims on your own heh tough luck pal your dum
fuck you

[Anonymous No.11180537]

>>11180534
no I didn't even make the thread.
it's literally a few seconds of a google search you absolute ignoramus, I bet you're suffering from some chronic disease because of poor diet and you think "it's just bad genes."

[Anonymous No.11180555]

>>11179612
A year for some shitty birds is quite cruel.

[Anonymous No.11180560]

>>11180537
Yet you could have shared that info using the time you spent making useless comments that does nothing but display what a stubborn, useless fag you are.

[Anonymous No.11180566]

>>11180560
likewise you could have searched for it yourself instead of making your similarly useless comment

[Anonymous No.11180572]

>>11180566
My post is what forums ARE FOR, bitch.
If I wanted to use google instead of a discussion forum, I would have.

[Anonymous No.11180583]

>>11180572
I'm done responding to you, child.

[Anonymous No.11180588]

>>11180583
>Announcing it
top kek
>child

[Anonymous No.11180606]

>>11179661
>caring about someone so thoroughly in the outgroup they don't even have the same body and thoughts as you lmao

[Anonymous No.11180614]

>>11179612
>killing wild animals/pets vs killing live stock

[Anonymous No.11180633]

>>11179612
You should look up what they do to pigs with swine flu.

[Anonymous No.11180637]

>>11180509
You can sympathize with animals and still eat them. Biology itself demands predation. Doing anything else is antithetical to nature itself.
Even plants respond to stimuli, by eating them you are causing "pain" as well.

[Anonymous No.11180639]

>>11180637
>Biology itself demands predation.
what is vegan?

[Anonymous No.11180641]

>>11180639
Predation upon plants. What, did you think that one organism eating another wasnt predation?>>11180637

[Anonymous No.11180708]

>>11180504
>and you are a God
or some ayy lmao

[Anonymous No.11180718]

>>11180641
>Predation upon plants

[Anonymous No.11180730]

>>11180708

[Anonymous No.11180734]

because slaughterhouses are regulated and subject to regular inspection, cruelty at slaughterhouses described in the infamous book The Jungle led to the FDA's creation. All of our modern food, drug and medical regulations are borne from slaughterhouse laws.

OP, you are a retard for not knowing this because it's basic US history and basic PETA history too.

[Annymous No.11181582]

>>11180734

Which creates shitty and useless regulations. They can legally abuse animals with cruel government approved procedures. Plenty of workers get PTSD from harming defenseless animals.

[Anonymous No.11181643]

>>11179612
Those baby chicks are all male, and as we all know males are useless, which is why nobody cares if they are killed.

[Anonymous No.11182211]

>>11179624
Go check the rules again, sweetheart.

[Anonymous No.11182265]

>>11181582
my mother forced me to shit so badly i got varicocele as a result of doing the valsalva thing the time

[Anonymous No.11182292]

>>11179774
>any kind of anarchism
All of which are communist.

[Anonymous No.11182307]

>>11179612
Those Ducklings are free and that man took that from them.
The chicks that live will live a life of captivity and servitude it is a mercy to grant them death.

[Anonymous No.11182308]

>>11182292
til that the most well respected individuals in the flat earth community deny the existence of oceans

[Anonymous No.11182311]

>>11180509
Other animals eat each other. Why not us?

[Anonymous No.11182627]

>>11179623
>Drug interdiction literally created to disenfranchise black people
>not a single government official has made any attempt to abolish it

[Anonymous No.11182763]

>>11182311
Not him but we are smarter we should know better and secondly we have options unlike the other animals. In fact eating animals is wasting a lot of resources compared to other food sources.
Any more questions?

[Anonymous No.11182929]

>>11179612
Free-roaming animals vs animals specifically raised in captivity for the purpose of being killed for human consumption. Don't see the difference?

[Anonymous No.11182931]

>>11182763
>smarter
>know better
There is nothing wrong with eating animals. Industrially torturing them is.

[Anonymous No.11182935]

>>11179612
>Be an animal in the wild
>Often in too hot or too cold of temperatures
>Get sick or get a cut, you will get an infection
>Everything is trying to kill you
>Finally a wolf catches you
>Get your intestines torn out and feasted on while still alive and aware
>Some animals start from the ass and go up when they eat you

or

>Be animal in factory
>Overcrowded, shit everywhere, but
>You are fed without having to go gather, never go starving
>Temperatures are optimal for your species
>Spend all your time with all your little animal bros
>Die quick painless death once old enough

[frank No.11182936]

>>11182931
Theres nothing wrong with doing anything to animals, they're animals. If you want to project human emotions and intelligence into them and assume that you're no smarter than a dog yourself, thats your business, but you might just as well project the same emotions on a rock or a tree.

[Anonymous No.11182947]

>>11179661
my sister-wife

[Anonymous No.11182951]

>>11182929
What if he bred them specifically for the purpose of running them over?

[Anonymous No.11182954]

>>11182936
Torturing animals is objectively wrong, future serial killer. Assuming I'm projecting human concepts instead of being able to put myself in there position shows you're drifting away from sanity.

[Anonymous No.11182957]

>>11179612
Our sphere of compassion has yet to expand to include all sentient entities. Human culture is in a constant state of evolution and vegans are ahead of the curve. Cultured meat and plant-based alternatives will become the norm and our ancestors will look back on us with a sense of disdain.

[Anonymous No.11182958]

>>11180708
>beauty

[Anonymous No.11182961]

>>11182311
>animals rape each other. Why not us?

Do you look at animals that cannot even comprehend morality do to determine what you should do? What the fuck is this post?

[Anonymous No.11182962]

>>11179634
>rails against human cruelty to animals
>eats animals killed for him to consume

[Anonymous No.11182968]

>>11182931
That's not an argument, it's a retarded claim. Try again.

>>11182936
You are okay with being tortured, noted. Also it has nothing to do with projecting you utter retard.

[Anonymous No.11182972]

>>11182936
Holy shit are you that Frank faggot who ruined /sci/ roughly 8 years ago?

>>11182968
>not an argument
So where's your argument, brainlet?

[Anonymous No.11182974]

>>11182935
Effective altruists are trying to diminish wild animal suffering as of a few years ago. They have some rather interesting things to say on the subject. All suffering is bad.

[Anonymous No.11182979]

>>11182972
>So where's your argument, brainlet?
My next argument comes after you've made one, actual brainlet.

[Anonymous No.11182983]

>>11182979

[Anonymous No.11182992]

>>11182983
Ah retard found that pic and saved it, and now you wanted to try throwing it out there randomly to see if it would fit. Too bad, it didn't.
>I've still not learned to completely ignore retards on this board.
Just go and die you worthless shitposting, thread derailing piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.11183011]

>>11182962
That might be the joke

[Anonymous No.11183024]

>>11183011
That occurred to me but people actually say shit like this. Poe's law.

[Anonymous No.11183042]

>>11182992
Oh, that must be why you deleted your original post.
It fits so perfectly, because all you say is "not an argument" in an attempt to distract from the fact you have none yourself. Instead of critically thinking, you resort to ad honinems. So that's a definite "no u" here.

[Anonymous No.11183057]

>>11183042
I delete the replies to you because it's off topic.
Die.

[Anonymous No.11183077]

>>11179612
Because libtards enable reatarded laws, that's why innosent man went to jail.

[Anonymous No.11183139]

>>11179612
>Why are we so cruel?
The chicks are roosters. They grow into angry little shitters that claw at and injure their companion birds. The only reasonable thing to do when farming them for human consumption is to destroy the males, and to be as humanitarian about it as possible, they're usually destroyed with very high speed industrial shredders that work too quickly for the birds to feel pain.

Running over a family of ducks is wanton destruction for its own sake, and not a larger purpose. The context of why animals are destroyed matters a great deal.

[Anonymous No.11183142]

>>11183077
You are why mankind won't survive the next century.
Also *innocent

[Anonymous No.11183147]

>>11182935
you're so deluded it's not even funny

[Anonymous No.11183151]

>>11182311
we build planes and spaceships, why don't other animals do this?

[Anonymous No.11183153]

>>11183147
This is what you say when you can't argue against the fact that nature is a heartless motherfucker that couldn't care less.

[Anonymous No.11183160]

>>11179623
Holy fuck. Your entire post and pic sounds like a god damn 12 year old child thought of it. 18+ site you zoomer /pol/ of shit.

[Anonymous No.11183189]

>>11183153
Not denying nature can be cruel but you're actually retarded if you can't understand that animal cruelty done by humans including all forms of factory farming is NOT NATURAL you fuckwit. It's also completely unnecessary.

Showing compassion to a lower form of life is not something that should be dismissed so pettily.

[Anonymous No.11183197]

>>11183189
No one's advocating for cruelty. What isn't established is what treatment in livestock raised for human consumption constitutes cruelty. Keeping the animals fed, warm, healthy, and sheltered is not a small thing for them, and its to our benefit as well. For the bigger animals, like bovines, obviously there's more to do like letting them be in pasture so they aren't miserable.

[Anonymous No.11183204]

>>11183197
>thinks the average person is buying all their meat from a local, sustainable pasture raised farm.

You're fucking deluded bro. CAFOs are evil and vile.

[Anonymous No.11183207]

>>11183204
You're shifting the goalposts again, dingdong. I never said anything about "local, sustainable pasture" raised animals.

[Anonymous No.11183228]

>>11183207
I'm not shifting the goalposts I'm pointing out the fact that
> What isn't established is what treatment in livestock raised for human consumption constitutes cruelty. Keeping the animals fed, warm, healthy, and sheltered is not a small thing for them, and its to our benefit as well.

is just pure and utter BS that typical hypocrites like you use to justify the enslavement and torture of animals on a massive scale. Have you ever been to a factory farm? Slaughterhouse?

If you think animals raised in contemporary environments (not small-scale farms) are HEALTHY, you're actually quite stupid. Do some reading.

[Anonymous No.11183234]

>>11183228
>actory farm? Slaughterhouse?
Extermination camp for animals

[Anonymous No.11183236]

>>11179612
Food is different from killing for fun. What is hard about this for you?

[Anonymous No.11183239]

>>11183234
karma is a bitch

[Anonymous No.11183241]

>>11183236
You don't need meat

[Anonymous No.11183243]

>>11183228
People gotta eat, brah. There are some minimum standards that should be met. That is not an objective statement that they are being met. At the end of the day though, people are better and more important than animals.

[Anonymous No.11183244]

>>11183077
>>11183142
Enjoy your hellworld

[Anonymous No.11183247]

>>11183236
>animals = food hurr durr i am strong h00man

[Anonymous No.11183249]

>>11183243
who's moving the goalposts now shithead? :D
what's a matter I made you have some feelings of sadness for the animals? Good! time to wake up

[Anonymous No.11183256]

>>11183249
Honestly I don't even know what we're arguing about. I'm not in favor of ending factory farming. I am in favor of showing some kindness to the animals and making sure they're healthy. At the end of the day, though, they're food.

[Anonymous No.11183262]

>>11183247
some nonhuman animals are of higher value than some humans

[Anonymous No.11183263]

>>11183256
>I am in favor of showing some kindness to the animals and making sure they're healthy.

HINT HINT, you can do that by not EATING them and not supporting industries that show zero compassion to the animals and treat them as if they were tin cans. If you want to buy from a local farm that shows some compassion for their lifestock, good for you but that's a lot easier said than done. It has never been easier to thrive on a vegan diet if you choose to.

[Anonymous No.11183264]

>>11183263
lol nah, I'm gonna keep eating them.

[Anonymous No.11183269]

>>11183262
I agree, but don't believe that means cruelty should be inflicted upon the humans in question. Karma is already taking care of them with regards to their health. Nearly everyone is fat and sick and depressed.
t.vegan for 4 years

[Anonymous No.11183274]

>>11183264
>ahaha I'm edgy and i'll tell him Ill just keep eating the animals!

[Anonymous No.11183346]

>>11183274
Nah, you're just unconvincing.

[Anonymous No.11183374]

>>11183346
is heart disease unconvincing?

[Anonymous No.11183378]

>>11179623
This

[Anonymous No.11183382]

>>11183374
Not all meat causes heart disease. You listen to too much popsci P-hacking news articles.
Do you own pets?

[Anonymous No.11183408]

>>11183274
>>11183374
Is a plethora of deficiency sicknesses in addition to guaranteed heart problems convincing?
>https://www.veggieboards.com/forum/14-general-health-discussion/202009-irregular-heartbeat-palpitations-related-diet.html%3famp=1

I know you are pozzed and brainwashed, I just want you to know it instead of clogging up the board even more with your bs. Go have a nap, you are probably anemic right now.

[Anonymous No.11183424]

>>11183408
>Go have a nap, you are probably anemic right now.
>actually believes people eating a healthy vegan diet are anemic and tired all the time.

Bro i've had my blood tested every year, my doctor wishes she had more patients like me. You're just spouting the same misinformation that I did 5 years ago before I went vegan.

[Anonymous No.11183622]

>>11183408
If you actually read some credible material you'd know there are much less deficiencies among vegans than meat eaters. This that exist are worse in meat eaters.
Only exceptions are B12 and iodine. Unless you live in your mother's basement, then also vitamin D.

[Anonymous No.11183705]

>>11183622
> there are much less deficiencies among vegans than meat eaters.
That's because vegans are rich white kids, you absolute retard

[Anonymous No.11183726]

>>11183705
Nice argument you fucking mong. Vegan is the future.

[Anonymous No.11183730]

>>11183622
Can't make adequate vitamin D even with sun exposure if you have cholesterol deficiency.

[Anonymous No.11183738]

>>11183726
Oh no you called me a name and changed the subject, I cannot possibly muster the strength to debate such an opponent.

[Anonymous No.11183858]

>>11179612
As long as there is utility in harming animals then it's ok to harm animals.

[Anonymous No.11184181]

>>11179623
>Pictured: /pol/ resorts to false flag posting after their dumbass views gain no traction in the one mildly intelligent board on this Chinese cartoon fansite.

[Anonymous No.11184474]

>>11184181
Whats your ARGUMENT FOR THE THEAD though? Greentext and sperg irony doesn't cut it on the
>smartest board

[Anonymous No.11184482]

>>11180504
How could a mad scientist-type theoretically kill all humans? Engineered plague wouldn't get everyone. Nukes or redirecting asteroids would bring too much attention.

[Anonymous No.11184570]

>>11180518
>why?
Lady chicks are useful, male chicks less so.

[Anonymous No.11184577]

>>11184482
>Engineered plague wouldn't get everyone
Literally your only bet besides somehow wiping the entire face of the plantet

[Anonymous No.11184583]

>>11179661
The crows in my yard are smart, keep the seagulls at bay, and occasionally bring me gifts like coins.

I would crucify 1,000 niggers to save the life of one of these crows, which bring infinitely more joy to my life.

[Anonymous No.11184613]

>>11179677
Because if you don't I will beat the shit out of you
Morality is subjective, so this is the only reason.

[Anonymous No.11184914]

Is the moral superiority of veganism even an open question anymore? Factory farming perpetuates the suffering of our fellow sentient creatures, on a nightmarish scale.

If you're not convinced, at least take a peek at the simplified argument:

https://ea-foundation.org/blog/the-strongest-argument-for-veganism/

Unless you're completely and utterly convinced that animals are mechanical, non-sentient automata - a characterization of animal-life that is demonstratably NOT the case - this needs to change.

I am completely confident in stating that our descendants will look back in absolute horror at this whole phenomenon.

[Anonymous No.11185214]

>>11183705
Wrong.

>>11183730
Maybe. No problem for anyone on a proper diet though.

[Anonymous No.11185269]

>muh deficiencies
That argument completely btfo under "health aspects":

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganismus&xid=17259,15700023,15700043,15700186,15700191,15700256,15700259,15700262,15700265,15700271,15700283&usg=ALkJrhh-3yYrEfmNxce_JqW7rfjVxq1zLQ

[Anonymous No.11185277]

post the .webms already, need my daily dose of ground up baby chicks

[Anonymous No.11185399]

>>11182974
>Effective altruists are trying to diminish wild animal suffering as of a few years ago. They have some rather interesting things to say on the subject.

Since many animals must eat other animals to live and those animals that are preyed upon will overpopulate and exhaust the food supply if they aren't preyed on by carnivores, that isn't happening period...unless all life on Earth is wiped out and there are no more animals left to suffer.

[Anonymous No.11185721]

>>11179677

Because it's possible animals have conscious experiences, even if they're simpler than ours. We don't know exactly how animals feel, how they experience pain but as long as we don't know for sure, we'd have to assume they can actually feel and understand pain. And this gives us an obligation to treat these creatures with respect.

[Anonymous No.11185751]

>>11183197
>Keeping the animals fed, warm, healthy, and sheltered is not a small thing for them
It's no small thing for humans either, but you wouldn't know cause you live in your mom's basement. Might as well live in a prison, they give people all that too, and are beaten/tortured less and don't have their babies taken away.

[Anonymous No.11185984]

>>11179612
Hah! You think that's cruel? Make some yoghurt! A bacterial genocide in every pot! :D

[Anonymous No.11186111]

>>11180572
>forums
You're on an image board sweetie.

[Anonymous No.11186127]

>>11179612
Sadist are more likely do seek positions of power so that they can abuse innocent people like that guy that just killed some filthy animals.

[Anonymous No.11186145]

>>11179612
Read The Lucifer Principle

[Anonymous No.11186146]

>>11179612
most people unaware whats going on in factories/slaughterhouses
stuff like that rarely seen in the news

[Anonymous No.11186159]

Harder for bovines, but its not hard to treat chickens and stuff decently. I live in farm, we have hens and cocks, we kill and eat cocks (with axe, quick kill), hen are for eggs. They live fine lives, they go all they wherever they want, they eat earthworms, they have sex (so in some ways they have better lives than me). If you guys care, you should just buy eggs and meat from "ecological farms"

[Anonymous No.11186169]

>>11180509
It is you frail zombies who are unable to accept the truth.

[Anonymous No.11186340]

>>11186169
>frail zombie

8 pack, v shape, decent quads/calves. u wat bro? built all the muscle while vegan too

t.vegan for ~4 years

[Anonymous No.11186502]

>>11179657
>rape someone
>have consensual sex with partner
both are done for pleasure, so there's no difference

[Anonymous No.11186654]

>>11186146
One thing i agree with vegans is that most meat eaters in the west are hypocrites. If you're not aware of the fact that animals have to be killed for sustenance and you're not totally unbothered by it then how do you justify your worldview.

[Anonymous No.11186665]

>>11186169
I feel like this was made by someone that doesn't quite get the meme.

[Anonymous No.11186666]

>>11180518
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick_culling

[Anonymous No.11186685]

>>11179612

Because categorization op, it's the reason why humanity has often displayed so many forms of cruelty.

The reason why the guy in pic is punished for killing ducklings and the farm/corporation is rewarded for killing chicks is because one is categorized as "wild" and the other as "livestock". Similar to the categorization of "first" and "third" world, "freeman" and "slave" or "domestic" and "foreign". Before the individual is even born to prove their worth, society has already categorized them thus filtering out potential avenues they possibly could have had in life. By doing this cruelty arises since through no fault of the individual coming into the world their life is dictated by rules they had no consent to.

[Anonymous No.11186709]

>>11186502
Chickens die against their will regardless faggot.

[Anonymous No.11186725]

>there are unironic objective moralist brainlets proselytizing on /sci/ right now
If your best argument for veganism is appeal to emotion and muh feefees/suffering/cruelty you're as primitive as theists and should get the fuck back to /pol/ or /his/

[Anonymous No.11186756]

>>11179612
damn...

[Anonymous No.11187078]

>>11182211
Looks like he doesn't have to, snowflake.

[Anonymous No.11187084]

>>11183424
>>11183622
That's why you eat supplements every day.
My bloodwork is perfect as well, but I take 0 supplements - the natural way. Stay s o y

[Anonymous No.11187167]

>>11179624
>>11182211
>>11187078
,tranny
>>11179612
The later exists, and only, for our own desires. They are a domestic species that we keep alive purely for a purpose we gave them, and if we tell them to die, then so be it.
stop being a fucking incel.

[Anonymous No.11187175]

>>11186756
Doom is a pussy

[Anonymous No.11187176]

>>11179612
>Cognitive dissonance

>cop shoots criminal
>nazi shoots jew
>nigger shoots nigger
>kid shoots sister in back seat
>Columbine

[Anonymous No.11187219]

>>11179612
you guys are all autistic retards who cant into law

Running over duckling without any intent to eat them or other productive activity show sadistic behavior in the individual, behavior that could later manifest itself against another person and now you got a murderer or a the very least a potential assaulter, which is why that man needed the recieve prison time

grinding up chicks is just so humans can eat and does not constitute sadistic or potentially criminal behavior


t. lawyer

[Anonymous No.11187228]

>>11187219
Kill all lawyers and revoke all laws.

[Anonymous No.11187277]

>>11187084
Wrong. See
>>11185269

Also, where do you think the B12 in your meat comes from, brainlet?

[Anonymous No.11188073]

>not a single body posted ITT

Till someone posts a body of someone who was raised completely vegan and doesn't look like some sub-human who barely dodged the gas chambers at Auschwitz I'll continue eating meat. It's what Allah wants for me. Try to tell me IRL that Allah is wrong about this and see what happens to your infidel existence.

[Anonymous No.11188138]

>>11188073
>raised vegan
Okay

[Anonymous No.11188154]

>>11188138
>Growing up, my diet has always been about 95% vegan
Great example of how no one can get a good body without animal proteins. Do you have an actual example?

[Anonymous No.11188363]

>>11188154
bitch please, stfu and let the vegans take over

[Anonymous No.11188393]

>>11179657
I kill them for my health. Meat is very nutritious.

[Anonymous No.11188622]

>>11188393

Name one nutrient naturally not found in any plants brainlet

[Anonymous No.11188624]

>>11188138
how does he still mange to look so sickly and malnourished?

[Anonymous No.11188628]

>>11188622
B12
(bioavailable) vitamin A
D3
essential fats, connective tissues and amino acids required for brain health

[Anonymous No.11188693]

>>11179612
Cruelty and the like are the vehicle that enables Collectivism. We cannot be cruel to something not in our in-group, but punishing perceived offenders, not even necessarily actual offenders, ensures the group idea of cruelty being being bad continues. People as a result don't step out of line. Though things slip through if it's done slower over a period of time. Like desensitizing people to other groups in the whole.

TL;DR: You cannot be cruel to animals.

[Anonymous No.11188809]

>>11188154
>95% vegan
5% non-vegan doesn't mean meat, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.11188813]

>>11188628
B12 is also not found in meat. Shiitake mushrooms produce it. Rest is just bullshit.

[Anonymous No.11188896]

>>11188813
>B12 is also not found in meat.
found the vegan with B12 deficiency anemia

[Anonymous No.11188987]

>>11188809
Animal protein doesn't mean meat you retard. Maybe you weren't born retarded and it's just your diet :/

[Anonymous No.11189099]

Math. Game theory.
>Hard to be Jew in 33.
>Hard to be Nazi now.
Not moral, pragmatic.
Roman if in Rome.

[Anonymous No.11189116]

>>11180504
True if the paramount aim of the species coincides with the scientific one, namely, absolute control.

[Anonymous No.11189125]

>>11186340
Steroids aren't natural.

[Anonymous No.11189131]

>>11188138
We all know you are vegan, you keep looking at other men, homo.

[Anonymous No.11189673]

>>11188896
>B12 in meat doesn't come from supplements
I wonder what it's like to live with sub-100 iq.

>>11188987
>5% non-vegan means 5% animal protein
lol, no, it's still you.

[Anonymous No.11189815]

>>11179706
It’s not the state tho?

[Anonymous No.11189826]

>>11179649
thousands of the male chicks are wasted. no difference.

[Anonymous No.11189834]

>>11187219
>grinding up chicks is just so humans can eat
wrong. There's no good reason to kill them.

[Anonymous No.11189835]

>>11183197
>No one's advocating for cruelty.
I am.

[Anonymous No.11190097]

>>11189834
Wrong. Your feelings don't dictate biology.

[Anonymous No.11190175]

>>11188693
What if some animals are in our in-group.

[Anonymous No.11190191]

>>11190097
It's not about biology, the chicks are killed for purely economical reasons.

[Anonymous No.11190997]

Fuck other animals. As the apex predators of this shitty planet, we own them and their lifes. We have just to make sure not to completely deplet the ecosystem, otherwise, we should do as we please.

[Anonymous No.11191036]

>>11189673
>i am retarded
Yes I know, you're vegan, it's a given.

[Anonymous No.11191575]

>>11186709
Survival of the fittest