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Like a lot of people my age, I had lazy parents and was practically raised by the internet. I have a smart phone now that I use for almost everything. What kind of damage has this done to my development? Can it be reversed somewhat?

>> No.11177496

>>11177471
i donno anon, i worry about this every day. are zoomers totally fucked in the head? i am a millennial and i can say for sure that many people in my generation got fucked up, and it wasn’t nearly as bad as it was for you guys. but for later zoomers the internet became sterilized by the big corporations. so maybe there is a sub-generational classification that distinguishes “we still had real life” zoomers who got boned from “we submit to the digital overlords” zoomers who might survive our current dystopia

>> No.11177502

>>11177496
Yeah I'm pretty sure I qualify as a zoomer and I'm very spooked by this. Been thinking of getting a flip phone and only using school computers for homework for awhile. Or just living in a tent in the woods.

>> No.11177507

>>11177471

i remember when nobody had a cell phone and very few families owned a personal computer. it just wasn't part of everyday life. it was better.

>> No.11177515

>>11177507
>it was better.
reading the newspaper then watching TV for six hours followed by enjoying a few printed periodicals while listening to the radio wasn't really all that different a level of media exposure as what people get today

>> No.11177516

>>11177507
Do you think young adults behaved differently back then? If so, how?

>> No.11177521

>>11177515

the media was less addictive. people made eye contact and said hi because they didn't have a phone to look at.

it's fucked man.

>> No.11177522

>>11177521
Hmm. I'm more interested in what it could be doing to our attention spans, how we handle our feelings, and how we discover interests and passions. I guess those are weird questions. I'm not good at explaining myself.

>> No.11177529

>>11177522

i do not know the answers to those questions. but it doesn't seem like a stretch that children with less screen time turn into better-adjusted adults.

>> No.11177531

>>11177496
>i donno anon, i worry about this every day. are millenials totally fucked in the head? i am a boomer
Sound familiar? They're fucked, but not because of technology. Same as us.

>> No.11177534

>>11177522
you gotta admit that back in the 2000's we could schedule parties by word of mouth to ensure douchebags wouldn't show up. now the internet douchebags have some weird control over the social scene and people who are popular on facebook via their fake personas are more popular than the actual cool/smart people who used to be popular in real life

>> No.11177535

>>11177522
Yea, I’m worried for my nephew

>> No.11177565

conspiracy theory channels on youtube have unironically fucked a lot of people up
the benefits still far outweigh the costs, the ease of access to information today is incredible

>> No.11177573

>>11177565
>the ease of access to information today is incredible
but the cost that needs to be paid is an unprecedented proliferation of brainlet ideas. curating ideas was a good thing that the internet destroyed

>> No.11177598

>>11177573
From a purely selfish perspective, I prefer having the internet. Research used to be a pain in the ass. Anybody without access to a university or lots of money to burn was restricted to outdated, elementary textbooks.

>> No.11179055

>>11177565
>the benefits still far outweigh the costs, the ease of access to information today is incredible
This. I genuinely think the internet is still overall very beneficial, but certain communities on the internet legitimately poison peoples' minds and cause them to be more prejudiced and narrow-minded. Just look at /pol/. That shit legitimately affects peoples' worldviews.

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>>11177496
>maybe there is a sub-generational classification that distinguishes “we still had real life” zoomers who got boned from “we submit to the digital overlords” zoomers who might survive our current dystopia
IMO the true zoomers are the latter. Your first description sounds exactly like millennials -- they grew up with early computers and the early Internet, which wasn't nearly as complete, corporate-backed and instantaneous as it is now so they still e.g. played in a playground as kids, found information in books and read the newspapers sometimes and had real hobbies (alongside the casual vidya perhaps).

>> No.11179203

>>11177471
It depends... I think that credit card payments damaged planet very much, people seem like their mental math maybe decayed... I have no idea what happened, I haven't seem to observe, but as they loose contact with bill, their whole value system change.

Because it's different amount of something different, once you change the bill and product. Stock exchange is amazing, but pushing manufactured non fake medial stories, to guarantee income is quite not being a producer.

I would like to be producer, or atleast come with idea that produces. Stock exchange is like: Choo, I allowed you with my money, don't forget to give back.

>> No.11179206

>>11177471
Money brought "that fucking all time damaged part when it comes out of insured period" into product, then we just produce "usable waste".

Stainless washing machines still wash, you replace engine... Now? Throw it whole away...

It's...

Dude...

It takes weeks to pass barefoot, how much trash we make. Made.

For what? Producing? Being alive? Are you even alive?

You just crunch internet "I want to sell ads" content, and who's in charge?

Dementia.

>> No.11179388

>>11177471
>I have a smart phone now that I use for almost everything.
All kinds of damage.

>> No.11179676

>>11179388
Can you elaborate on this though? And whatever the damage is, is it reversable?

>> No.11179694

>>11179141
What a meme graphic, probably made by a retarded economist. That graph means nothing because all that means is that early adopters of the internet were the kind of people who looked for their niches, while as internet adoption grew, the audience started encompassing mainstream-media slaves who actually just have like 2 to 3 needs to satisfy. This is the opposite of consolidation. The original people are probably still visiting their niche websites with the same variety and frequency and before, but now Stacey can also post her tits on instagram and Prandeep and Rajeev can jerk off to them.

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>>11177496
I'm genz, am pretty fucked in the head. Being exposed to animated gore videos from the age of 7, rape videos and sexual gore pictures on newgrounds at around 10. Liveleak videos at 10. Dad keeping computer open on porn sites since forever. Mom dressing you up in girl clothes and covering house in art of vaginas. Having always been able to explore incredible digital 3d worlds since I was 3. Access to everything at all times. My parents way of raising me was pretty much my dad showing me a search engine when I was like 5.
I've never really had a grasp of any kind of reality lol, it's kinda funny.

>> No.11179780

>>11177471
Books are freely available on the internet, so you can learn about some science and just... Teach other people... You can live sucesfull life.

>> No.11179782

>>11177471
Try to get control over your smartphone and stop it from controlling you.

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pic related was pretty helpful in understanding OP's question. basically Carr thinks that the internet/digital media does affect how how you/how quickly you expect a reward for effort but because of neuroplasticity you can reverse that effect

>> No.11179873

>>11179852
Thank you this is the only truly helpful response. You're good and cool.

>> No.11179879

>>11179780
i wish it was that easy

>> No.11179920

>>11179852
Expecting reward? Where do you come from, I want to get there, I don't get that really often.