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Anonymous Mon Nov 25 14:26:03 2019 No.11176310 [Reply] [Original]

Can anyone recommend any other books that debunk scientism but also give you a better appreciation for science?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:03:01 2019 No.11177369 File: 38 KB, 640x815, 7220951E-3766-4F3A-9710-129426C1219E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Michael Polanyi, Ludwig Wittgenstein, Karl Popper, Susan Sontag, Parmemides

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:06:47 2019 No.11177376 Paul Feyerabend >>11177369 Based Polanyi

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:09:22 2019 No.11177385 File: 14 KB, 374x374, huh2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11176310 wtf is scientism?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:12:25 2019 No.11177393 >>11177385 a meme jesusfags made up to make scientists look dumb by false equivalence with them

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:14:52 2019 No.11177399 >>11177385 An -ism made by creationists to argue that science is a cult and thus is below religion

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:15:51 2019 No.11177401 >>11176310 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9SiRNibD14

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:16:53 2019 No.11177404 >>11177401 This is a good start

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:17:50 2019 No.11177406 >>11177404 samefag

Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:22:36 2019 No.11177417

>>11177385
Cult-like adherence to an uncritical acceptance of the dogma of logical positivism/empiricism. Espoused by people who get too wrapped up in technical minutiae to study any history or philosophy of science, semiotics, epistemology, stuff like that.

Basic problems are that observation is theory-laden, knowing is socioculturally constructed, proof/truth is elusive, and people tend to massively underestimate how constrained they are by linguistic processes.

Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:27:59 2019 No.11177433
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>>11176310
There aren't any books which will honestly debunk something thats true (see pic).
Check out this old quote
>For them let that play the principal part which we have persuaded them to accept as the dictates of science (theory). It is with this object in view that we are constantly, by means of our press, arousing a blind confidence in these theories. The intellectuals of the goyim will puff themselves up with their knowledge and without any logical verification of them will put into effect all the information available from science, which our agentur specialists have cunningly pieced together for the purpose of educating their minds in the direction we want.
Its from The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, isn't that spooky?
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Learned_Elders_of_Zion

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:29:00 2019 No.11177438 >>11177417 then make a thread then, if you think you can debunk science you are doing evangelical cope. this is the same line of reasoning that leads people to think dinosaurs went extinct because they fell off the ark

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:30:25 2019 No.11177440 >>11177433 >protocols of the elders of zion you have to go back when will sci BUILD THE WALL???

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:32:07 2019 No.11177446 >>11177438 nobody’s out to “disprove science” you fucking brainlet failure to criticize the foundations of scientific method is unscientific, you’re closer to being an evangelical than you think

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:34:38 2019 No.11177454 >>11177446 okay so i see you are alluding to some nebulous argument you didn’t state about how science is wrong and you know better than science. redpill me then, what is your method (a method superior to the empirical/scientific method)???

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:38:22 2019 No.11177463 >>11177440 >giving /pol/niggers (You)s >ever

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:40:50 2019 No.11177474 >>11177463 whatever i’m drunk and like pwning them while shitfaced because then i prove they are so dumb the get pwned even by shitfaced anons

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:41:21 2019 No.11177475 >>11177440 Even if The Protocols are fake, the processes to "fool the goyim" which are described in The Protocols are clearly being employed by someone

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:44:05 2019 No.11177485 >>11177454 jesus christ, it’s like you’re literally illiterate

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 23:47:30 2019 No.11177494 File: 78 KB, 800x500, laughing white males.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11177463 >Oh noes, its a non-believer! a heretic! its evil, ignore it! Theres the good ol' open minded academic scientific curiosity on display for everyone to see

Anonymous Tue Nov 26 00:01:24 2019 No.11177519

>>11177393
>>11177399
A rare double cope whammy, plus
>>11177438
A fresh strawman / possibly just brainlet take, cont: >>11177454

Yep, this thread has it all. I seriously hope you two consider the recs made in this thread lmao

Moreover
>>11177433
>Schitzo pol poster
>>11177440
>le "I pwn trumpists by using their catchphrases against them" redditor

Please give me more, /sci/

Anonymous Tue Nov 26 00:12:00 2019 No.11177530

>>11177417
Lmao, this weird perception philosotards have about people who like science is remarkable. Most people you claim to have a "Cult-like adherence to an uncritical acceptance of the dogma of logical positivism/empiricism" actually don't care a lot of what all of that means, they simply study scientific theories and go with a framework that permits them further their own understanding. Basically, most of them aren't really interested in all the topics you mentioned, and why should them? Hell, most people in general are interested in a very limited range of topics, why the fuck do you think those topics are anything special? You could claim that at worse it's ignorance, but nowdays everyone is ignorant on a plethora of topics, as there is just too much shit too learn, and if you prefer to learn about scientific theories in certain ways, certainly you are not going to spend most time arguing about the philosophical foundations of your methods (that's why we have specialisations in philosophy of science). That humans can be stubborn and uncritical about their actions and thoughts is nothing new, and I find it pretty far streched to think this position is "cult-like".

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 00:18:08 2019 No.11177537 >>11177369 >Wittgenstein >Parmenides Based >Popper Cringe and SJW pilled

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 00:25:52 2019 No.11177549 >>11177530 >why should them? To avoid ending up with hare-brained theories because they can’t unstick their heads from their own assholes?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 01:09:10 2019 No.11177604 Why are Jews and Jewslaves (Cuckstians) eternally seething?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 03:42:42 2019 No.11177795 The Scientific Attitude by Lee C. McIntyre

Anonymous Tue Nov 26 10:39:26 2019 No.11178409

>>11177530
Tbh the entire problem is purely terminological. "Scientism" is a term madeup by Young Earth Creationists to make an evil boogeyman of Evolution.The obsession with Logical Positivism is telling. The Right uses this term to refer to people who believe garbage thebLeft believes, like Genes being vestigial or there being 978,737 genders and Science Can Prove It, but this has nothing at all to do with Science, if anything it's a purely philosophical matter as Empirical Evidence is a trick madeup by Nazis and Evidence is Whiteness.

I encourage my fellow PoBs (Persons of Bigotry is our preferred politically correct term, thank you) to not stoop to such silliness. Instead of arguing against "scientism", just point out that the crazy moron is a crazy moron.

Anonymous Tue Nov 26 10:52:54 2019 No.11178466

>>11177433
the pic you posted hurts my soul. As if being able to change your stance on something in the face of new evidence instead of insisting you've never been wrong about something is a sign that you shouldn't be trusted.

Funny how racism and a disregard for the scientific processes always end up going hand in hand for some reason.

Anonymous Tue Nov 26 13:04:40 2019 No.11178786
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>>11177385
The faggots that failed Algebra I but claim to be ""scientifically minded"" because they support the trendy memes of the moment. Examples: 2006-2014's Fedoras, 2014-2015's Solar FREAKIN' Roadways, 2014-'s Rick and Morty, 2015-'s Transgenderism/Feminist Technoscience, 2019's Nuclear Power is the cleanest safest best powar evar spammers...

They get really butthurt when they are called out.

Anonymous Tue Nov 26 13:28:07 2019 No.11178829

>>11178409
>Tbh the entire problem is purely terminological. "Scientism" is a term madeup by Young Earth Creationists to make an evil boogeyman of Evolution

No, it's the scientismists that make up the evil boogeyman of YECs to deflect away from any actually discussion on scientism. anti-evolution and creationism only ever come up in these threads by those trying to project it on "scientism" and discredit it by ad hominem. Just like how adherents boogeyman antisemitism to deflect away from any actually discussion on the problems of Cultural Marxism/Critical Theory/Postmodernism.

>Instead of arguing against "scientism", just point out that the crazy moron is a crazy moron
>Instead of arguing against "their argument", just point out that the "attack on the person" is "attack on the person"

Posters of your esteemed intellectual caliber belong on >>>/reddit/. Please never return here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 13:45:30 2019 No.11178869 >>11178829 please go back

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 14:10:26 2019 No.11178909 File: 11 KB, 300x168, images.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] scientism meme explained: >Scientists -- "You're a towel." >Towelie -- "YOU'RE A TOWEL!"

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 16:30:53 2019 No.11179166 >>11177385 Its basically "whats the evolutionary purpose of xyz" shitposts but unironically.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 16:37:19 2019 No.11179179 Critique of pure reason

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 16:38:19 2019 No.11179187 >>11177393 >mad reddit fedora tipper that his kind are the new evangelics

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 16:50:11 2019 No.11179210 >>11176310 For books I'd recommend Zumdahl's Chemistry Brock's Microbiology Janeway's Immunology Therein you will find the learned protocols that elder zionists speak of. Gird thy loins

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 17:25:48 2019 No.11179272 >>11176310 Do they keep it in lab in that book?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 17:37:18 2019 No.11179298 >>11178829 Scientism isn't an argument it's a cope within a cope and that's why we make fun of you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 22:13:19 2019 No.11179898 >>11179298 >t. cringy scientismist

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 22:18:31 2019 No.11179905 >>11176310 >Can anyone recommend any other books that debunk scientism but also give you a better appreciation for science? https://www.amazon.com/Value-Science-Essential-Writings-Poincare/dp/0375758488/ /thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 22:34:26 2019 No.11179928 >>11177417 so basically some bullshit made up by gender studies professors?

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